oooo... Cleveland gets Lions next year 3 for this years 4

there goes Hand

we are on the clock

What about Holton Hill as a FS? Or White out of WVU.

Hill woud solid. but I would go DL

Cowboys turned in card immediately

Love Gil Brandt making the pick

Dorance Armstrong - DE Kansas

Dorance Armstrong...good pick

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Dorance Armstrong - DE Kansas

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Love getting another pass rusher.

10 sacks and 20 tackles for losses at DE in 2016. Scheme change in 2017 and they moved him to LB, not as productive

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Love getting another pass rusher.

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yep, gotta do some more homework on this kid. The fact he was unanimous all Big 12 is pretty impressive

Still need a FS but kids are still available

Analysis
By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst

Draft Projection
Rounds 4-5

NFL Comparison
Kamerion Wimbley

Overview
Armstrong is an intriguing prospect with the build and fluid athleticism of a shooting guard. Armstrong's drop in production can be attributed to a change in scheme that asked him to play run first and pass second. His game revolves around athletic ability over technique, but his poor forty times at both the Combine and his pro day could cause concerns. Armstrong has the tools and upside to become an eventual starter at outside linebacker in a 3-4.

Strengths

• Angular with long arms and well-defined build
• Plays with loose hips and plus agility
• Can be both smooth and explosive in his movements
• Features considerable acceleration from standstill and change of direction and pursues all over the field
• Has rush experience standing and with hand in the ground
• Able to hit accelerator once he gets to the embankment as rusher
• Good inside spin counter
• Bends and flattens to quarterback
• Effort level is consistent
• Active hands at point of attack
• Jarring initial punch with upper body twitch to discard blockers quickly
• Sees past blockers
• Has sudden responsiveness in his chase
• Shows ability to sink and battle back against wash-down blocks

Weaknesses

• Played as a 4-3 end, but may not have the frame for it moving forward
• Will have to become comfortable standing and handling added duties as outside backer
• Contact balance is slightly below average
• Doesn't have base and play strength to withstand squared blocks at point of attack
• Will opt for athleticism over technique at times
• Saw significant drop in production with sacks going from 10 to two and tackles for losses falling from 20 to 10
• Too often a one-note rusher
• Can do better job of setting up blockers before countering
• Needs more effective use of hands in his rush and a go-to move

Sources Tell Us

"Don't read too much into that sack total this year. They didn't really cut him loose this year. I still like the talent and he will help himself at the Combine." -- NFC Director of Scouting

Chargers just took White from WVU.

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Still need a FS but kids are still available

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We another 4th coming up at 137

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BearForce said:

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Still need a FS but kids are still available

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We another 4th coming up at 137

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I know, just hope there isn't a run on FS types. I do like Hill as a FS conversion...we all know how much of a pain he was at CB at UT and loves to hit.

Kenny Young goes to Baltimore...he was a depth LB I was look at for later on.

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BearForce said:

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Still need a FS but kids are still available

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We another 4th coming up at 137

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I know, just hope there isn't a run on FS types. I do like Hill as a FS conversion...we all know how much of a pain he was at CB at UT and loves to hit.

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from what I have been reading, they want to move X to FS. Box safety is probably on the boards if this pans out

Smythe TE from ND to Miami

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We another 4th coming up at 137

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I know, just hope there isn't a run on FS types. I do like Hill as a FS conversion...we all know how much of a pain he was at CB at UT and loves to hit.

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from what I have been reading, they want to move X to FS. Box safety is probably on the boards if this pans out

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True but they like playing X at Slot CB as well and with Jones moving to CB you need another guy.

Aggies S Watts off teh board

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Aggies S Watts off teh board

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Think he was small for what we wanted

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones suggested third-round WR Michael Gallup could start Week 1.
"Gallup can play immediately, especially with the way we are approaching. It involves using a lot of receivers." A Biletnikoff finalist and consensus All-American, Gallup should start opposite Terrance Williams, with Allen Hurns and Cole Beasley competing in the slot. Gallup's physical style makes him the favorite for the Dez Bryant role in OC Scott Linehan's offense.
Source: Dallas Morning News
Apr 28 - 11:54 AM

Cowboys selected Kansas DE Dorance Armstrong with the No. 116 overall pick in the 2018 NFL draft.
Armstrong (6'4/257) turned pro after three years as a Jayhawk, tallying 34 career tackles for loss and 15 sacks but slumping to 9 TFLs and 1.5 sacks as a 2017 junior following a monster sophomore campaign. Scouts attributed the downturn to a scheme change which asked Armstrong to set the edge more than attack. Although Armstrong ran slower than expected (4.87) in Indy, he shined in agility drills, confirming the twitched-up quickness Armstrong won with in the Big 12. A relentless edge player, Armstrong offers sneaky three-down potential as a talented run defender and pass rusher.

Apr 28 - 12:54 PM

Oh wow, Atlanta takes Ito Smith way way early but a guy we wanted.

Falcons grab Ito!

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Falcons grab Ito!

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wanted that guy just so Norm would call him Judge Ito!

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Oh wow, Atlanta takes Ito Smith way way early but a guy we wanted.

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They've been mocking him to Dallas in 6 or 7 for weeks. 4 is pretty high

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BearForce said:

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Oh wow, Atlanta takes Ito Smith way way early but a guy we wanted.

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They've been mocking him to Dallas in 6 or 7 for weeks. 4 is pretty high

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Agree, like I said way way early

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Oh wow, Atlanta takes Ito Smith way way early but a guy we wanted.

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They've been mocking him to Dallas in 6 or 7 for weeks. 4 is pretty high

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yep.

a couple of picks away - some names: Hurst/Settle DT, St Brown/Cain - WR, Allen S, Griffin LB

We haven't talked 1-tech and we need one.

Maybe Ballage at RB?