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Tennessee if you think about it is running our BU defense...3 man front getting pressure and drop 8 in zone

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hey, it worked - in the Big 12. Not so well when we took on the SEC

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They scored very little after BU made adjustments. Also UGA got shut down the year prior by a similar defensive scheme. Your reach to make it a league referendum is misplaced.

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Beat me to it

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Tennessee if you think about it is running our BU defense...3 man front getting pressure and drop 8 in zone

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hey, it worked - in the Big 12. Not so well when we took on the SEC

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They scored very little after BU made adjustments. Also UGA got shut down the year prior by a similar defensive scheme. Your reach to make it a league referendum is misplaced.

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We got our asses handed to us. 272 to 97 yards in the first half. Winning the second half meant absolutely nothing. that is like the old Bill Beall days when we would gloat about winning 1st downs or time of possession.

The Big 12 got our asses handed to them overall. Having the Horns as the only winner made it even worse.

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Tennessee if you think about it is running our BU defense...3 man front getting pressure and drop 8 in zone

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hey, it worked - in the Big 12. Not so well when we took on the SEC

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They scored very little after BU made adjustments. Also UGA got shut down the year prior by a similar defensive scheme. Your reach to make it a league referendum is misplaced.

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We got our asses handed to us. 272 to 97 yards in the first half. Winning the second half meant absolutely nothing. that is like the old Bill Beall days when we would gloat about winning 1st downs or time of possession.

The Big 12 got our asses handed to them overall. Having the Horns as the only winner made it even worse.

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With that said, we had a fantastic year. it absolutely blew me away. but we have to get better, recruit better, even coach better. the fact that it took us an entire half to adjust to what Georgia was doing cost us the game

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Tennessee if you think about it is running our BU defense...3 man front getting pressure and drop 8 in zone

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hey, it worked - in the Big 12. Not so well when we took on the SEC

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They scored very little after BU made adjustments. Also UGA got shut down the year prior by a similar defensive scheme. Your reach to make it a league referendum is misplaced.

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We got our asses handed to us. 272 to 97 yards in the first half.

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Games are 4 quarters and Bu lost by 12 despite plenty of time left and he ball at midfield when Brewer left the game. Let's not pretend this was a last second score to make things pretty. If Brewer could go the rest of the way it likely ends up a one score game given how well Bu moved the ball in the drives immediately leading up to that drive.

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Winning the second half meant absolutely nothing. that is like the old Bill Beall days when we would gloat about winning 1st downs or time of possession.

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So pointing out their offense didn't score for an entire half other than a short field drive where they needed a fake field goal is some reach? Delusional

Also the Bill Beal comparison for a league runner up who was top ten is a laughably weak troll argument.

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The Big 12 got our asses handed to them overall. Having the Horns as the only winner made it even worse.

Toughest bowl schedule of all the leagues tends to do that. Big 12 overcame it the last two seasons but couldn't this year.

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Toughest bowl schedule of all the leagues tends to do that. Big 12 overcame it the last two seasons but couldn't this year.

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Evidently you missed the fact that we lost the game. We were blitzed in the first half so bad that we couldnt catch up in the second half. So your argument is exactly like the Beall ones I mentioned. Winning a half or any stat in football nothing unless you win.

Once again, we lost. The SEC team kicked our ass.

Now we move on, hopefully with the leftover staff. We have to improve and recruit better, especially in the OL and DL. While Okie was giving their guys breathers, Lynch and Roy were on the field practically the whole time for the D.

And don't call anyone a troll unless you are man enough to say it to their face. Come to one of the over 60 lunches I have put together for BaylorFans and SicEm 365, then give it a shot. I'm 65 with a broken back, reconstructed right elbow, two knee surgeries and rotator cuff surgery, so you might survive.

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OHIO STATE

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BOISE STATE

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BAYLOR

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MIAMI

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OHIO STATE

You know he's just going to put you on ignore S11. Lololol

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Tennessee if you think about it is running our BU defense...3 man front getting pressure and drop 8 in zone

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They scored very little after BU made adjustments. Also UGA got shut down the year prior by a similar defensive scheme. Your reach to make it a league referendum is misplaced.

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We got our asses handed to us. 272 to 97 yards in the first half.

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Games are 4 quarters and Bu lost by 12 despite plenty of time left and he ball at midfield when Brewer left the game. Let's not pretend this was a last second score to make things pretty. If Brewer could go the rest of the way it likely ends up a one score game given how well Bu moved the ball in the drives immediately leading up to that drive.

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Winning the second half meant absolutely nothing. that is like the old Bill Beall days when we would gloat about winning 1st downs or time of possession.

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So pointing out their offense didn't score for an entire half other than a short field drive where they needed a fake field goal is some reach? Delusional

Also the Bill Beal comparison for a league runner up who was top ten is a laughably weak troll argument.

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The Big 12 got our asses handed to them overall. Having the Horns as the only winner made it even worse.

Toughest bowl schedule of all the leagues tends to do that. Big 12 overcame it the last two seasons but couldn't this year.

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Toughest bowl schedule of all the leagues tends to do that. Big 12 overcame it the last two seasons but couldn't this year.

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Evidently you missed the fact that we lost the game. We were blitzed in the first half so bad that we couldnt catch up in the second half.

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They got out to a big lead. That's never the whole story. Ask OU-UGA 2017 or BU-TCU 2014.

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So your argument is exactly like the Beall ones I mentioned. Winning a half or any stat in football nothing unless you win.

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You still dont get it. To win a football game you need to score more points than the other team. It's a very simple premise.

Winning time of possession, first downs, the second half, yada, yada, yada without winning the the point battle yields exactly the same result, be it Bealls, Bridgers, Belechik, Landry, Knute Rockne or anyone else.

We 'almost' beat Oklahoma twice this year. Yet both those games go down as losses.

Is anybody watching that Houston/ Kansas City game?

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Games are 4 quarters and Bu lost by 12 despite plenty of time left and he ball at midfield when Brewer left the game. Let's not pretend this was a last second score to make things pretty. If Brewer could go the rest of the way it likely ends up a one score game given how well Bu moved the ball in the drives immediately leading up to that drive.

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Winning the second half meant absolutely nothing. that is like the old Bill Beall days when we would gloat about winning 1st downs or time of possession.

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So pointing out their offense didn't score for an entire half other than a short field drive where they needed a fake field goal is some reach? Delusional

Also the Bill Beal comparison for a league runner up who was top ten is a laughably weak troll argument.

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The Big 12 got our asses handed to them overall. Having the Horns as the only winner made it even worse.

Toughest bowl schedule of all the leagues tends to do that. Big 12 overcame it the last two seasons but couldn't this year.

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Toughest bowl schedule of all the leagues tends to do that. Big 12 overcame it the last two seasons but couldn't this year.

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Evidently you missed the fact that we lost the game. We were blitzed in the first half so bad that we couldnt catch up in the second half.

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They got out to a big lead. That's never the whole story. Ask OU-UGA 2017 or BU-TCU 2014.

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So your argument is exactly like the Beall ones I mentioned. Winning a half or any stat in football nothing unless you win.

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You still dont get it. To win a football game you need to score more points than the other team. It's a very simple premise.

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I never said Baylor won. You're reading comprehension is terrible or you like arguing against stuff people aren't even saying.

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Winning time of possession, first downs, the second half, yada, yada, yada without winning the the point battle yields exactly the same result, be it Bealls, Bridgers, Belechik, Landry, Knute Rockne or anyone else.

We 'almost' beat Oklahoma twice this year. Yet both those games go down as losses.
Nobody argues that Baylor didn't lose those games.

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You sure like to argue against things that others weren't saying.

All this misdirection to distract from your original point about the Big 12 style 3-3-5 shutting UGA down in their game against UT and then making them struggle after BU made a couple adjustments.

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No, this is verbatim what your original contention was

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They scored very little after BU made adjustments. Also UGA got shut down the year prior by a similar defensive scheme. Your reach to make it a league referendum is misplaced.

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Which set the stage for the obvious, BU didnt score enough. which makes your points moot. You cant win a half - and the game, without scoring more than the other team did in the other half.

It also cast dispersion on our coaching staff. Why in the world would it take a whole half for them to make adjustments

As for the league, you would have to be blind and dumb not to know that the SEC has the best P5 defenses year after year. Something we can aspire to be

If you are going to talk football on this thread, you better know what the heck you are talking about. There are some sharp cookies here.

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If you are going to talk football on this thread, you better know what the heck you are talking about. There are some sharp cookies here.

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[url=https://twitter.com/BryanBroaddus][/url]
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@BryanBroaddus
[url=https://twitter.com/BryanBroaddus][/url]
Hearing some really positive things about him. Sounds like a highly respect coach/recruiter at Texas A&M.

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[url=https://twitter.com/BryanBroaddus][/url]
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@BryanBroaddus
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Hearing some really positive things about him. Sounds like a highly respect coach/recruiter at Texas A&M.

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2007, Baylor (Graduate Assistant / Safeties)

As a senior at Baylor, he was the team's defensive most valuable player as a strong safety, an honorable mention All-Big 12 selection and an academic All-Big 12 honoree. He started 24 of 42 career games for the Bears from 2003-06 and was a four-year letterwinner. He earned a bachelor's degree in communications (2006) and a master's degree in health, human performance and recreation (2007) during his tenure at Baylor.

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[url=https://twitter.com/BryanBroaddus][/url]
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@BryanBroaddus
[url=https://twitter.com/BryanBroaddus][/url]
Hearing some really positive things about him. Sounds like a highly respect coach/recruiter at Texas A&M.

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2007, Baylor (Graduate Assistant / Safeties)

As a senior at Baylor, he was the team's defensive most valuable player as a strong safety, an honorable mention All-Big 12 selection and an academic All-Big 12 honoree. He started 24 of 42 career games for the Bears from 2003-06 and was a four-year letterwinner. He earned a bachelor's degree in communications (2006) and a master's degree in health, human performance and recreation (2007) during his tenure at Baylor.

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Games are 4 quarters and Bu lost by 12 despite plenty of time left and he ball at midfield when Brewer left the game. Let's not pretend this was a last second score to make things pretty. If Brewer could go the rest of the way it likely ends up a one score game given how well Bu moved the ball in the drives immediately leading up to that drive.

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Winning the second half meant absolutely nothing. that is like the old Bill Beall days when we would gloat about winning 1st downs or time of possession.

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So pointing out their offense didn't score for an entire half other than a short field drive where they needed a fake field goal is some reach? Delusional

Also the Bill Beal comparison for a league runner up who was top ten is a laughably weak troll argument.

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The Big 12 got our asses handed to them overall. Having the Horns as the only winner made it even worse.

Toughest bowl schedule of all the leagues tends to do that. Big 12 overcame it the last two seasons but couldn't this year.

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Toughest bowl schedule of all the leagues tends to do that. Big 12 overcame it the last two seasons but couldn't this year.

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Evidently you missed the fact that we lost the game. We were blitzed in the first half so bad that we couldnt catch up in the second half.

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They got out to a big lead. That's never the whole story. Ask OU-UGA 2017 or BU-TCU 2014.

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So your argument is exactly like the Beall ones I mentioned. Winning a half or any stat in football nothing unless you win.

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You still dont get it. To win a football game you need to score more points than the other team. It's a very simple premise.

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I never said Baylor won. You're reading comprehension is terrible or you like arguing against stuff people aren't even saying.

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Winning time of possession, first downs, the second half, yada, yada, yada without winning the the point battle yields exactly the same result, be it Bealls, Bridgers, Belechik, Landry, Knute Rockne or anyone else.

We 'almost' beat Oklahoma twice this year. Yet both those games go down as losses.
Nobody argues that Baylor didn't lose those games.

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You sure like to argue against things that others weren't saying.

All this misdirection to distract from your original point about the Big 12 style 3-3-5 shutting UGA down in their game against UT and then making them struggle after BU made a couple adjustments.

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No, this is verbatim what your original contention was

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They scored very little after BU made adjustments. Also UGA got shut down the year prior by a similar defensive scheme. Your reach to make it a league referendum is misplaced.

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Which set the stage for the obvious, BU didnt score enough. which makes your points moot.

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When you are arguing about efficiency on one side of the ball it doesn't. Plenty of teams have had productive games on one side of the ball and had the other side of the ball lose the game for them. It doesn't mean they won but it does point to whether offensive or defensive tactics were successful in isolation.

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You cant win a half - and the game, without scoring more than the other team did in the other half.

It also cast dispersion on our coaching staff. Why in the world would it take a whole half for them to make adjustments

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Cast dispersion? Get real. Guys struggled more Vs Pickens than they expected coming in. So they adjusted.

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They usually do have 5-6 really good ones per year due to recruiting footprint. UGA was either their best or second best depending on what you feel about Auburn this year.

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I really dont see you being successful in your bid to make Baylor the winner in the Sugar Bowl. I guess you can keep trying though. Best of luck to you

Doug Nussmeier is expected to be named quarterbacks coach on Mike McCarthy's staff after serving as the tight ends coach in 2018-19 under Jason Garrett, according to sources. He will replace Jon Kitna, who helped oversee Dak Prescott's career highs in... https://es.pn/36KZKfC

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Doug Nussmeier is expected to be named quarterbacks coach on Mike McCarthy's staff after serving as the tight ends coach in 2018-19 under Jason Garrett, according to sources. He will replace Jon Kitna, who helped oversee Dak Prescott's career highs in... https://es.pn/36KZKfC

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Wow...interesting

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Doug Nussmeier is expected to be named quarterbacks coach on Mike McCarthy's staff after serving as the tight ends coach in 2018-19 under Jason Garrett, according to sources. He will replace Jon Kitna, who helped oversee Dak Prescott's career highs in... https://es.pn/36KZKfC

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Doug Nussmeier is expected to be named quarterbacks coach on Mike McCarthy's staff after serving as the tight ends coach in 2018-19 under Jason Garrett, according to sources. He will replace Jon Kitna, who helped oversee Dak Prescott's career highs in... https://es.pn/36KZKfC

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[url=https://twitter.com/SlaterNFL][/url]Jane Slater
@SlaterNFL
#Cowboys currently working on hiring #Browns
[url=https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hashtag_click][/url] assistant OL coach Jeff Blasko in addition to Joe Philbin per source.
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havent heard any more about Blasko

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Games are 4 quarters and Bu lost by 12 despite plenty of time left and he ball at midfield when Brewer left the game. Let's not pretend this was a last second score to make things pretty. If Brewer could go the rest of the way it likely ends up a one score game given how well Bu moved the ball in the drives immediately leading up to that drive.

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Winning the second half meant absolutely nothing. that is like the old Bill Beall days when we would gloat about winning 1st downs or time of possession.

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So pointing out their offense didn't score for an entire half other than a short field drive where they needed a fake field goal is some reach? Delusional

Also the Bill Beal comparison for a league runner up who was top ten is a laughably weak troll argument.

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The Big 12 got our asses handed to them overall. Having the Horns as the only winner made it even worse.

Toughest bowl schedule of all the leagues tends to do that. Big 12 overcame it the last two seasons but couldn't this year.

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Toughest bowl schedule of all the leagues tends to do that. Big 12 overcame it the last two seasons but couldn't this year.

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Evidently you missed the fact that we lost the game. We were blitzed in the first half so bad that we couldnt catch up in the second half.

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They got out to a big lead. That's never the whole story. Ask OU-UGA 2017 or BU-TCU 2014.

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So your argument is exactly like the Beall ones I mentioned. Winning a half or any stat in football nothing unless you win.

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You still dont get it. To win a football game you need to score more points than the other team. It's a very simple premise.

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I never said Baylor won. You're reading comprehension is terrible or you like arguing against stuff people aren't even saying.

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Winning time of possession, first downs, the second half, yada, yada, yada without winning the the point battle yields exactly the same result, be it Bealls, Bridgers, Belechik, Landry, Knute Rockne or anyone else.

We 'almost' beat Oklahoma twice this year. Yet both those games go down as losses.
Nobody argues that Baylor didn't lose those games.

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You sure like to argue against things that others weren't saying.

All this misdirection to distract from your original point about the Big 12 style 3-3-5 shutting UGA down in their game against UT and then making them struggle after BU made a couple adjustments.

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No, this is verbatim what your original contention was

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They scored very little after BU made adjustments. Also UGA got shut down the year prior by a similar defensive scheme. Your reach to make it a league referendum is misplaced.

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Which set the stage for the obvious, BU didnt score enough. which makes your points moot.

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When you are arguing about efficiency on one side of the ball it doesn't. Plenty of teams have had productive games on one side of the ball and had the other side of the ball lose the game for them. It doesn't mean they won but it does point to whether offensive or defensive tactics were successful in isolation.

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You cant win a half - and the game, without scoring more than the other team did in the other half.

It also cast dispersion on our coaching staff. Why in the world would it take a whole half for them to make adjustments

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Cast dispersion? Get real. Guys struggled more Vs Pickens than they expected coming in. So they adjusted.

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They usually do have 5-6 really good ones per year due to recruiting footprint. UGA was either their best or second best depending on what you feel about Auburn this year.

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I really dont see you being successful in your bid to make Baylor the winner in the Sugar Bowl. I guess you can keep trying though. Best of luck to you

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This is yet another attempt to straw man by implying I argued something I didn't.

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Good luck with your venture. If you can get the L changed to a W, please let me know, I would be very interested

[url=https://twitter.com/jonmachota][/url]Jon Machota
Stephen Jones on
@1033fmESPN
said he's surprised that the Cowboys don't have at least one of the two deals done [Dak/Amari]. He made it clear that they want both to stay. "We've got to land the plane and it starts with Dak. He's the leader of this team. He's got the 'it' factor."

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Oh yes! You should feel threatened by me a whole lot! Lololol I will come beat you up S11! You little snot!

Apparently. Wow

He's not quite ready for that yet. Ha