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I never thought I'd say this, but if we let Dak walk and hire a 43 year old cheater, I might not watch any games that season.

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Machiavelli said:

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GoldMind said:

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I never thought I'd say this, but if we let Dak walk and hire a 43 year old cheater, I might not watch any games that season.

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If Dak is going to suck every last penny he can out of our cap space, he can suck it. That said, Brady wouldn't really do much for me as his replacement. I guess it would give us a year to find our long term solution.

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Wichitabear said:

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I don't think this is going to happen. I can't even picture Brady in a Cowboy uniform or him wanting to be in one.

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Machiavelli said:

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GoldMind said:

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I never thought I'd say this, but if we let Dak walk and hire a 43 year old cheater, I might not watch any games that season.

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If Dak is going to suck every last penny he can out of our cap space, he can suck it. That said, Brady wouldn't really do much for me as his replacement. I guess it would give us a year to find our long term solution.

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Wichitabear said:

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Lol good luck with that decision.

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Wichitabear said:

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Exactly!!!! I was thinking about all the money we gave Zeke and it makes me sick because he didn't play as well as I thought he should but here again it could be the calls he got

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Assassin said:

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Wichitabear said:

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Exactly!!!! I was thinking about all the money we gave Zeke and it makes me sick because he didn't play as well as I thought he should but here again it could be the calls he got

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the stars had aligned for one of the most high value trades we could have made since Herschel Walker. Rushing champ in 2 of the past three years, prime of his career, big marquee name. Easily two #1s plus.

Plus Pollard in the wings AND whatever else you could get at those #1s. And of course all the new bodies would come in well under the total of what we are paying Zeke now

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UBBY said:

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Assassin said:

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Wichitabear said:

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Exactly!!!! I was thinking about all the money we gave Zeke and it makes me sick because he didn't play as well as I thought he should but here again it could be the calls he got

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the stars had aligned for one of the most high value trades we could have made since Herschel Walker. Rushing champ in 2 of the past three years, prime of his career, big marquee name. Easily two #1s plus.

Plus Pollard in the wings AND whatever else you could get at those #1s. And of course all the new bodies would come in well under the total of what we are paying Zeke now

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That would've been a Belichick or Jimmy Johnson type of move for sure but that wasn't going to happen. The only way they can really make this work is by trading him after the 2022 season. They designed it that way by betting they could get the most out of him for 7 seasons. Then it won't hurt as bad against the cap. Only 6.7 million against the cap. That's of course if they release him after the 2022 season.

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Assassin said:

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UBBY said:

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Assassin said:

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Wichitabear said:

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Exactly!!!! I was thinking about all the money we gave Zeke and it makes me sick because he didn't play as well as I thought he should but here again it could be the calls he got

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the stars had aligned for one of the most high value trades we could have made since Herschel Walker. Rushing champ in 2 of the past three years, prime of his career, big marquee name. Easily two #1s plus.

Plus Pollard in the wings AND whatever else you could get at those #1s. And of course all the new bodies would come in well under the total of what we are paying Zeke now

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That would've been a Belichick or Jimmy Johnson type of move for sure but that wasn't going to happen. The only way they can really make this work is by trading him after the 2022 season. They designed it that way by betting they could get the most out of him for 7 seasons. Then it won't hurt as bad against the cap. Only 6.7 million against the cap. That's of course if they release him after the 2022 season.

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I'm speaking of trading him back before he signed the new deal. He would still be on his rookie deal

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trey3216 said:

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Assassin said:

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UBBY said:

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Assassin said:

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Wichitabear said:

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Exactly!!!! I was thinking about all the money we gave Zeke and it makes me sick because he didn't play as well as I thought he should but here again it could be the calls he got

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the stars had aligned for one of the most high value trades we could have made since Herschel Walker. Rushing champ in 2 of the past three years, prime of his career, big marquee name. Easily two #1s plus.

Plus Pollard in the wings AND whatever else you could get at those #1s. And of course all the new bodies would come in well under the total of what we are paying Zeke now

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That would've been a Belichick or Jimmy Johnson type of move for sure but that wasn't going to happen. The only way they can really make this work is by trading him after the 2022 season. They designed it that way by betting they could get the most out of him for 7 seasons. Then it won't hurt as bad against the cap. Only 6.7 million against the cap. That's of course if they release him after the 2022 season.

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I'm speaking of trading him back before he signed the new deal. He would still be on his rookie deal

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you were t going to get 1 first, let alone 2, in today's NFL valuation market

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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Assassin said:

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UBBY said:

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Assassin said:

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Wichitabear said:

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Exactly!!!! I was thinking about all the money we gave Zeke and it makes me sick because he didn't play as well as I thought he should but here again it could be the calls he got

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the stars had aligned for one of the most high value trades we could have made since Herschel Walker. Rushing champ in 2 of the past three years, prime of his career, big marquee name. Easily two #1s plus.

Plus Pollard in the wings AND whatever else you could get at those #1s. And of course all the new bodies would come in well under the total of what we are paying Zeke now

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That would've been a Belichick or Jimmy Johnson type of move for sure but that wasn't going to happen. The only way they can really make this work is by trading him after the 2022 season. They designed it that way by betting they could get the most out of him for 7 seasons. Then it won't hurt as bad against the cap. Only 6.7 million against the cap. That's of course if they release him after the 2022 season.

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I'm speaking of trading him back before he signed the new deal. He would still be on his rookie deal

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you were t going to get 1 first, let alone 2, in today's NFL valuation market

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I would bet you would have gotten 2 #1s from the right team. In this case the Raiders had 3 1sts. Take the later firsts and the Raiders would have had thier marquee player as the head into Las Vegas this upcoming season
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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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Assassin said:

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UBBY said:

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Assassin said:

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Wichitabear said:

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Exactly!!!! I was thinking about all the money we gave Zeke and it makes me sick because he didn't play as well as I thought he should but here again it could be the calls he got

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the stars had aligned for one of the most high value trades we could have made since Herschel Walker. Rushing champ in 2 of the past three years, prime of his career, big marquee name. Easily two #1s plus.

Plus Pollard in the wings AND whatever else you could get at those #1s. And of course all the new bodies would come in well under the total of what we are paying Zeke now

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That would've been a Belichick or Jimmy Johnson type of move for sure but that wasn't going to happen. The only way they can really make this work is by trading him after the 2022 season. They designed it that way by betting they could get the most out of him for 7 seasons. Then it won't hurt as bad against the cap. Only 6.7 million against the cap. That's of course if they release him after the 2022 season.

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I'm speaking of trading him back before he signed the new deal. He would still be on his rookie deal

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you were t going to get 1 first, let alone 2, in today's NFL valuation market

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I would bet you would have gotten 2 #1s from the right team. In this case the Raiders had 3 1sts. Take the later firsts and the Raiders would have had thier marquee player as the head into Las Vegas this upcoming season

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trey3216 said:

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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you were t going to get 1 first, let alone 2, in today's NFL valuation market

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I would bet you would have gotten 2 #1s from the right team. In this case the Raiders had 3 1sts. Take the later firsts and the Raiders would have had thier marquee player as the head into Las Vegas this upcoming season

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for Zeke!? You're out of your mind

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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you were t going to get 1 first, let alone 2, in today's NFL valuation market

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I would bet you would have gotten 2 #1s from the right team. In this case the Raiders had 3 1sts. Take the later firsts and the Raiders would have had thier marquee player as the head into Las Vegas this upcoming season

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for Zeke!? You're out of your mind

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So you think that if you had the chance to get the fella that led the NFL in rushing in two of the past three years, only 23 years old, still two years left on his rookie deal for two unproven late round firsts, you wouldn't do it? You would have to be nutz not to

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Machiavelli said:

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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you were t going to get 1 first, let alone 2, in today's NFL valuation market

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I would bet you would have gotten 2 #1s from the right team. In this case the Raiders had 3 1sts. Take the later firsts and the Raiders would have had thier marquee player as the head into Las Vegas this upcoming season

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for Zeke!? You're out of your mind

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So you think that if you had the chance to get the fella that led the NFL in rushing in two of the past three years, only 23 years old, still two years left on his rookie deal for two unproven late round firsts, you wouldn't do it? You would have to be nutz not to

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Well, that logic means it would have been stupid for the Cowboys to make that trade?

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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you were t going to get 1 first, let alone 2, in today's NFL valuation market

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I would bet you would have gotten 2 #1s from the right team. In this case the Raiders had 3 1sts. Take the later firsts and the Raiders would have had thier marquee player as the head into Las Vegas this upcoming season

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for Zeke!? You're out of your mind

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So you think that if you had the chance to get the fella that led the NFL in rushing in two of the past three years, only 23 years old, still two years left on his rookie deal for two unproven late round firsts, you wouldn't do it? You would have to be nutz not to

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trey3216 said:

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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you were t going to get 1 first, let alone 2, in today's NFL valuation market

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I would bet you would have gotten 2 #1s from the right team. In this case the Raiders had 3 1sts. Take the later firsts and the Raiders would have had thier marquee player as the head into Las Vegas this upcoming season

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for Zeke!? You're out of your mind

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So you think that if you had the chance to get the fella that led the NFL in rushing in two of the past three years, only 23 years old, still two years left on his rookie deal for two unproven late round firsts, you wouldn't do it? You would have to be nutz not to

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or I could draft someone in the third round for 1/3 of the money and get 80-90% of the production and still have two first round picks.

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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you were t going to get 1 first, let alone 2, in today's NFL valuation market

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I would bet you would have gotten 2 #1s from the right team. In this case the Raiders had 3 1sts. Take the later firsts and the Raiders would have had thier marquee player as the head into Las Vegas this upcoming season

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for Zeke!? You're out of your mind

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So you think that if you had the chance to get the fella that led the NFL in rushing in two of the past three years, only 23 years old, still two years left on his rookie deal for two unproven late round firsts, you wouldn't do it? You would have to be nutz not to

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or I could draft someone in the third round for 1/3 of the money and get 80-90% of the production and still have two first round picks.

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lots of possibilities that we will never have.

And all of this based on us having 70+ percent of the cap on Offense with more to come and a lack of starters and depth on D

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Assassin said:

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Machiavelli said:

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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Assassin said:

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trey3216 said:

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you were t going to get 1 first, let alone 2, in today's NFL valuation market

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I would bet you would have gotten 2 #1s from the right team. In this case the Raiders had 3 1sts. Take the later firsts and the Raiders would have had thier marquee player as the head into Las Vegas this upcoming season

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for Zeke!? You're out of your mind

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So you think that if you had the chance to get the fella that led the NFL in rushing in two of the past three years, only 23 years old, still two years left on his rookie deal for two unproven late round firsts, you wouldn't do it? You would have to be nutz not to

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Well, that logic means it would have been stupid for the Cowboys to make that trade?

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Not when you go up a couple of posts to get the context of the conversation which was we paid him waaay too much in the new contract. If we had traded him, not only would we have had two new players, they would have been at a much lower cost over several years

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I think you're all smoking dried drain cleaner if you think we can get "80-90%" of Zekes production in a 3rd rounder.

He's only the best RB we've had since Emmitt left.

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Which recent super bowl champs have spent that much on a RB?

He's good but teams winning the biggest aren't treating RB like a key position to invest in.

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S11 said:

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GoldMind said:

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S11 said:

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GoldMind said:

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I think you're all smoking dried drain cleaner if you think we can get "80-90%" of Zekes production in a 3rd rounder.

He's only the best RB we've had since Emmitt left.

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Which recent super bowl champs have spent that much on a RB?

He's good but teams winning the biggest aren't treating RB like a key position to invest in.

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I didnt say hes worth 50mil, I said he was the best.

I like having players I can talk to my kids about, not randoms.

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I like playoff wins past the wild card round people under 30 remember, not ones that predated Y2K.

Spending anywhere near what Zeke demands on a contract is poor roster management. Free up resources for building out the roster to win with, possibly get some picks to fill holes, and go win.

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GoldMind said:

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S11 said:

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GoldMind said:

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S11 said:

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GoldMind said:

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I think you're all smoking dried drain cleaner if you think we can get "80-90%" of Zekes production in a 3rd rounder.

He's only the best RB we've had since Emmitt left.

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Which recent super bowl champs have spent that much on a RB?

He's good but teams winning the biggest aren't treating RB like a key position to invest in.

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I didnt say hes worth 50mil, I said he was the best.

I like having players I can talk to my kids about, not randoms.

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I like playoff wins past the wild card round people under 30 remember, not ones that predated Y2K.

Spending anywhere near what Zeke demands on a contract is poor roster management. Free up resources for building out the roster to win with, possibly get some picks to fill holes, and go win.

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If we dont pay him, I guess we can just be sad when he goes to another team and wins a trophy.

I dont think were gonna get any better by letting the best RB and the best QB walk, probably the only one on earth who thinks that.

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