NoBSU said:
Krieg said:
NoBSU said:
Krieg said:
NoBSU said:
Krieg said:
NoBSU said:
Briles crew, be careful what you wish for
There isn't a Briles crew. We want the truth because the facts out there right now don't make sense in regards to the actions taken. They want our money. They want us to attend games, buy tickets, buy tailgating spots, and buy concessions on top of BBF donations. Ok, then tell us the truth. I'm not throwing good money after bad without a REALLY good reason to do so.
Right now, we effectively have a collective response of, "trust us, we did the right thing!" That's coming from a group that nobody on here can think we should trust after all of this. Screw that, give us the facts. It'll be the best thing for Baylor long-term no matter what they are.
Yes there is. They are buying Houston T-shirts.
I know A TON of people that are sitting out right now that aren't buying Houston shirts. I think a lot of you are in denial. I'm going from season tickets for everyone in my family every year I've been old enough to buy them to zero tickets. What I always find hilarious is that those that talk about being on board the most, such as yourself, live so far away. Those of us on the ground know better.
As for the staff changes, the coaches are 1-11. They're the worst coaches we've ever had until they're not. We don't owe them anything.
The rest, I guess including the coaches for that matter, were chosen by the problem people with zero accountability and that includes the new regents. I realize some regents are fantastic, but at this point they all have to go before they can reasonably be trusted again. I bet the truth coming out would help that endeavor. Even if it didn't, it would at least let us evaluate the situation and decide for ourselves whether Baylor is worth supporting.
I am not on board. I see the strong chance the Rex's drp, drip, drip is going to backfire and hurt Briles and Baylor. I doubt the Rex cares about the hurting Baylor part but I do. If I lived in Waco I would probably buy baseball tickets. Not sure Drew is worth the buy. Mulkey maybe.
There were problems with the BOR when Briles arrived. The same voting block as today but more of them. That group bet that if football was winning then few would care. They were right. Most of the Baylorfans posters who are active here did not care. So now you care. Do you want a medal?
I actually agree with what you said here until the last 3 sentences, but I'm not entirely sure what you meant by them. If you clarify/explain, I'd answer.
Buddy Jones and Dary Stone used their FOB voting block to roll up a lot of traditional Baylor groups in the 200Xs like the BAA, B Foundation, etc. They tan up debt, ran up tuition, chased Tier I legitimately & deviously with paying Freshmen to retake SATs, pushed research over instruction, and pushed some new wrinkles with Faith & Learning. They bet that most would not not notice or care as long as Athletics (Football in particular) was booming. They were right. Most Baylor fan posters did not care. Starr was here to raise national conservative donations as the BOR shaped Baylor into the national evangelical university of America. Many posters here detest the BOR over Briles firing and 1-11. I have much older reasons that are not about athletics.
So I am not bonding with the newbie BOR haters if it means that I have to buy into Briles being an angel. I think (don't know) that there is more out there that we will never see. I don't think it is DA (plaintoff lawyers have pulled those out of the woodwork), I think it will damage Baylor, that it won't exonerate Briles, and won't chase out the block of regents that need to go.
Ok. Let's reroute this conversation with a tad bit more sanity than you have proven capable of the past few years. I won't give my former account name away, but I started posting on Baylorfans my junior year of college in the early 00s. Holy smokes you're aligning yourself with xiled. There isn't a bigger fence-sitting, incoherent, quasi-literate poster on this board. There wasn't on Baylorfans either. Maybe BEAR with his schtick. So you should just take a timeout and consider that for a second.
Normally I wouldn't take someone to task, but you sure as heck have earned it. Get off your soapbox and pipe your high and mighty BS down. It's sickening. Seriously sickening. I considered you a nondescript, innocuous poster on Baylorfans, but here you have really ratcheted up the self-righteous crap. Not unsurprising. This forum encourages these cultish behaviors. I can't even imagine what it's like on the pay board. I still lament the nonexistence of Baylorfans, despite its shortcomings. This place might as well be texags, which really, really sucks. Right down to the software. JFC on a cracker. Even told myself I wouldn't join this board because it sucks so freaking bad.
I don't care about your petty crap with the BOR or any old timers that were on it. Yeah they sucked. Buddy Jones repeatedly embarrassed the university. I detest the current BOR because they handled this situation in the worst possible way. This is, by the way, how most people feel. I've never clung to any robe. And, again like most people, I wish Rhule the best and know that his 1-11 isn't entirely on him. But, he should have done better. Period. He's paid too well to suck.
As far as your spaced-out diatribe, well the timelines are so out of whack that its cray cray. Like all these things running amok, yet Vision 2012 caused much of those things and was "done" barely as Briles got going. So absolutely stop any sort of connection. We can agree that old Baylor BOR people sucked, suck and will continue to suck as human beings. Mark Hurd is on our BOR and he's practically ODB with money.
But you aren't going to point your nose up at other Baylor alums. I guarantee that. Like you care more than other people because they think the school screwed up. I hope it all comes out. Because I am absolutely done with the petty infighting from these old turds. And if it burns the school, so be it. Maybe they'll finally learn their lesson once and for all.
