EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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baylorrific said:

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Colt McCoy has made an impressive iliving as an NFL QB; I suspect that 99.99 percent of humans would be thrilled to have had his success.

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It's a great living, just not what either McCoy or Stidham were hyped to become.

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So?

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So he is a flop when it came to hype.

He didn't enter school or the draft expecting to settle for maybe getting drafted at all.

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Why do you care? Seriously, who cares about hype?

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Why do you care that someone cares is a better question.

It's a thread about a primadonna bust player that has a history of fleeing adversity and you're mad someone points that out.

Boo hoo.

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I never saw him as a prima donna player. Fleeing adversity? I mean, you come to a program, and everyone who brought you there is gone, and you have no idea who will be the next leader, and you only have so many years of eligibility to figure that out. Did Troy Aikman flee adversity when he left OU because they completely shifted to a running game when he got hurt?

I was never mad at Stidham for leaving as you seem to be. I was upset that a 19-year-old kid tweeted the first thing out about staying, but he probably got out of a players meeting and was emotional. But I'm surprised more players didn't leave. This is not what they were sold.

We've got too many Baylor fans (and college fans in general) who think they own players, that once a player signs, they have to stay all four years, even if their coach leaves, even if their coach is fired, even if the program is decimated through no fault of their own. If a player chooses to take control of their own destiny and find the best spot for him or her, "fans" like you call him a prima donna and selfish. Fans are the ones who are selfish for thinking that no matter what happens around a player, he has no choice but to waste his time on a sinking ship.

I'm not sure he'll be a great NFL QB. He was pretty good one year at Auburn, but this year, for some reason, Malzahn really hampered his ability to play the position well with his offensive philosophy.

I'm not mad at you for thinking he's a prima donna. He's not, but I never said I was mad at you for that. I'm truly flummoxed as to why you care that you care about hype, which doesn't matter in the slightest. He's going to get drafted, and he'll stay on a roster for potential. If he doesn't adapt to the pro system, as many do not, he'll be out after a few years. According to you, that's the greatest failure in the world, to not be a star quarterback in the NFL.

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Well said. Ignore the silliness. It's your opinion (with which I agree). But it's an opinion. The attacks are from people who who immaturely and apparently too deeply and overly attached to football.

Grizz Air said:

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Yes, he will be drafted (rounds 4-6).

No, he did not live up to the hype.

Who knows if he would have lived up to the hype if he had stayed at BU.

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Not with that offensive line. Heck, the one he had at AU wasn't much better ...

Dude and his crew are why you should raise your children not to look up to athletes as role models.

MilliVanilli said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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baylorrific said:

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Colt McCoy has made an impressive iliving as an NFL QB; I suspect that 99.99 percent of humans would be thrilled to have had his success.

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It's a great living, just not what either McCoy or Stidham were hyped to become.

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So?

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So he is a flop when it came to hype.

He didn't enter school or the draft expecting to settle for maybe getting drafted at all.

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Why do you care? Seriously, who cares about hype?

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Why do you care that someone cares is a better question.

It's a thread about a primadonna bust player that has a history of fleeing adversity and you're mad someone points that out.

Boo hoo.

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I never saw him as a prima donna player. Fleeing adversity? I mean, you come to a program, and everyone who brought you there is gone, and you have no idea who will be the next leader, and you only have so many years of eligibility to figure that out. Did Troy Aikman flee adversity when he left OU because they completely shifted to a running game when he got hurt?

I was never mad at Stidham for leaving as you seem to be. I was upset that a 19-year-old kid tweeted the first thing out about staying, but he probably got out of a players meeting and was emotional. But I'm surprised more players didn't leave. This is not what they were sold.

We've got too many Baylor fans (and college fans in general) who think they own players, that once a player signs, they have to stay all four years, even if their coach leaves, even if their coach is fired, even if the program is decimated through no fault of their own. If a player chooses to take control of their own destiny and find the best spot for him or her, "fans" like you call him a prima donna and selfish. Fans are the ones who are selfish for thinking that no matter what happens around a player, he has no choice but to waste his time on a sinking ship.

I'm not sure he'll be a great NFL QB. He was pretty good one year at Auburn, but this year, for some reason, Malzahn really hampered his ability to play the position well with his offensive philosophy.

I'm not mad at you for thinking he's a prima donna. He's not, but I never said I was mad at you for that. I'm truly flummoxed as to why you care that you care about hype, which doesn't matter in the slightest. He's going to get drafted, and he'll stay on a roster for potential. If he doesn't adapt to the pro system, as many do not, he'll be out after a few years. According to you, that's the greatest failure in the world, to not be a star quarterback in the NFL.

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Big diatribe to say you want to whine about reality.

He ditched Tech to avoid competition with Mahomes and at Baylor he was miffed about sitting behind Russell and when he listened to KB luring him to Auburn he foolishly went thinking the Briles clan would be close behind.

I was happy he left, anyone that fickle isn't invested in anything other than themselves.

Kid was gutless in character and underwhelming to his hype, both external and self-perpetuated.

If that reality offends you I really couldn't care less.

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Stidham wanted to play for an institution of football. As it turns out, Baylor was not such a place. I wish him the utmost success in the future.

He wanted to be where his crew was going to end up but Auburn being a southern institution of higher learning didn't allow the rootin tootin Texas football's scandal ridden regime to be associated with their good name.
Auburn's athletic department doesn't run the hires. Probably something they came up with after embarrassing episodes in the 1990s.

Waco1947 said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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baylorrific said:

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Colt McCoy has made an impressive iliving as an NFL QB; I suspect that 99.99 percent of humans would be thrilled to have had his success.

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It's a great living, just not what either McCoy or Stidham were hyped to become.

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So?

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So he is a flop when it came to hype.

He didn't enter school or the draft expecting to settle for maybe getting drafted at all.

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Why do you care? Seriously, who cares about hype?

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Why do you care that someone cares is a better question.

It's a thread about a primadonna bust player that has a history of fleeing adversity and you're mad someone points that out.

Boo hoo.

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I never saw him as a prima donna player. Fleeing adversity? I mean, you come to a program, and everyone who brought you there is gone, and you have no idea who will be the next leader, and you only have so many years of eligibility to figure that out. Did Troy Aikman flee adversity when he left OU because they completely shifted to a running game when he got hurt?

I was never mad at Stidham for leaving as you seem to be. I was upset that a 19-year-old kid tweeted the first thing out about staying, but he probably got out of a players meeting and was emotional. But I'm surprised more players didn't leave. This is not what they were sold.

We've got too many Baylor fans (and college fans in general) who think they own players, that once a player signs, they have to stay all four years, even if their coach leaves, even if their coach is fired, even if the program is decimated through no fault of their own. If a player chooses to take control of their own destiny and find the best spot for him or her, "fans" like you call him a prima donna and selfish. Fans are the ones who are selfish for thinking that no matter what happens around a player, he has no choice but to waste his time on a sinking ship.

I'm not sure he'll be a great NFL QB. He was pretty good one year at Auburn, but this year, for some reason, Malzahn really hampered his ability to play the position well with his offensive philosophy.

I'm not mad at you for thinking he's a prima donna. He's not, but I never said I was mad at you for that. I'm truly flummoxed as to why you care that you care about hype, which doesn't matter in the slightest. He's going to get drafted, and he'll stay on a roster for potential. If he doesn't adapt to the pro system, as many do not, he'll be out after a few years. According to you, that's the greatest failure in the world, to not be a star quarterback in the NFL.

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Well said. Ignore the silliness. It's your opinion (with which I agree). But it's an opinion. The attacks are from people who who immaturely and apparently too deeply and overly attached to football.

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You lot sure get your panties in a twist when the mere mention that he didn't live up to his hype is casually mentioned.

Stidham is about a 5th round talent. An AJ McCarron / Clint Stoerner type career projection. Pro career will result in a few years of preseason action, limited regular season snaps when injuries to others occur, and mainly some nice paychecks for a few years.

Malzahn did him no favors.....

Sic'em

Not a panty twist but sadness at your belittling of any opinions opposite of yours.

I've heard from more than one source that "he's all about himself," and not much of a team player which, if true may shy some away from that kind of inevitable locker room drama...

Waco1947 said:

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Not a panty twist but sadness at your belittling of any opinions opposite of yours.

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You must have reading comprehension issues as it is you lot who are attacking opinions other than your own...his behavior and status as a flop also arent opinions but empirical realities.

BUbackerinET said:

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I've heard from more than one source that "he's all about himself," and not much of a team player which, if true may shy some away from that kind of inevitable locker room drama...

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He believed his own press clippings and didn't put in the work to be a leader.

You don't go to three different schools in as many years if you're a committed teammate.

Bridles screwed stidham. I don't blame him for bolting. He had options. He pursued them.

An athlete typically never knows his ceiling until given a chance. Somewhere between PeeWee League and the NFL Hall of Fame we all enter/exit the games we love to play and watch.

That said, a career "hope" would be to become a professional . . . five years in the NFL vests you in retirement. If an athlete can get beyond the reality that he may not be the 1a starter but might instead be the 1b backup . . . the NFL can still provide a great vested retirement.

How that might apply to former BU student-athlete Stidham I"m not sure. But I certainly don't disrespect his hoping to find that chance.