Whoop....there it is....what a hell of a year this has been....sic'em!

Studio analyst talking very highly about Baylor and our chances for the CFP if we beat Oklahoma.

Kansas State did not make it in

Much higher than I expected! WOW!

This seems to indicate that if we win Saturday, we will be in the playoffs. Totally unexpected!

WOW!

All these guys can do is talk about Utah vs OU. Let's keep shocking the country!!

And yet Herbstreit being Herbstreit.

We are a team of DESTINY! We are gonna beat OU on Saturday and finish #5, matching our 2014 finish!

ESPN: "Utah has a better loss than OU"

No they don't. Losing at HOME to 8-4 #22 USC is a wash to losing on the ROAD to 8-4 UR Kansas State.

Galloway thinks OU or BU can possibly get in even if Utah wins depending on how the B12 looks.

David Pollack said BU is really trending up with the way BU "smashed" Texas and handled KU. He said it seems like OU has leveled off.

Dropping KSU out is a bit of a hit to BU and even OU as they were saying Utah has a better loss than OU since USC is ranked.

Still don't understand them not bringing up that everybody in the Big 12 plays everybody and Baylor and Oklahoma play twice. The Pac 12 is not a very good conference. They just have a lot of teams and most teams are average or below average.

Having OSU at 25 is a great plus for us and OU.

DST said:

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ESPN: "Utah has a better loss than OU"

No they don't. Losing at HOME to 8-4 #22 USC is a wash to losing on the ROAD to 8-4 UR Kansas State.

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Agree. KSU has better wins than USC...plus KSU picked up a non-con win over Miss St while USC lost to BYU in non-con

I know it sounds crazy but I think Georgia has a chance against LSU. It will be basically a home game.

I figured we'd be #7, but I really thought they were going to bump Oklahoma ahead of Utah after a win over a ranked OSU.

This love for Utah makes very little sense. Utah's loss looks better than OU's but Utah does not have a single quality win.

Sic'em Bears! and Go Ducks!

gobears20 said:

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I know it sounds crazy but I think Georgia has a chance against LSU. It will be basically a home game.

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This would kill our chances and get both LSU and Georgia into the payoffs.

boognish_bear said:

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Galloway thinks OU or BU can possibly get in even if Utah wins depending on how the B12 looks.

David Pollack said BU is really trending up with the way BU "smashed" Texas and handled KU. He said it seems like OU has leveled off.

Dropping KSU out is a bit of a hit to BU and even OU as they were saying Utah has a better loss than OU since USC is ranked.

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Disagree about OU. They are playing as well as they did to start the year. D is creating TO's...the one thing they had not done most of the year. But their D is vulnerable. Our O MUST keep OU off the field as much as possible. OU will try just like in Waco to dominate TOP because their best chance vs. our D is to do what they did and that is just wear us down. I'd sure feel a lot better if Clay was still playing. He may be the one guy at this level that we will look back on and say IF ONLY.

However, if we just throw caution to the wind and play like madmen we'll be fine and have a better chance to win than if we get worried about being down 2 scores or something. All I will say is just make Hurts as far out of his comfort zone as possible. Snow has got this. Just hope Nixon follows suit.

They've positioned us in striking distance. A convincing win will make it impossible to ignore and we jump into 4...or they risk making a mockery of their own criteria's. Our 1 loss will be to a better team. Our wins will be against better opponents.

A close game/win gives them wiggle room.

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And yet Herbstreit being Herbstreit.

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He actually said if Baylor wins and Georgia loses, he thinks Baylor slides into the 4 spot.

RedBear05 said:

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I figured we'd be #7, but I really thought they were going to bump Oklahoma ahead of Utah after a win over a ranked OSU.

This love for Utah makes very little sense. Utah's loss looks better than OU's but Utah does not have a single quality win.

Sic'em Bears! and Go Ducks!

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I think it's largely that Utah has been smashing people. OU needed a huge comeback to win against us and barely survived against ISU and TCU (with some ref help against TCU).

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The argument for Utah not beating anyone beat being "dominant" as the reason they are #5 is kind of ironic since it was the exact opposite argument they used against us in 2014 when they said the scoring margin and dominance didn't matter.

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They've openly acknowledged that game control is factored in this year, while saying straight-up margin of victory isn't.

Go Ducks, Bears and LSU (and Virginia).

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Illinois Bear said:

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And yet Herbstreit being Herbstreit.

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He actually said if Baylor wins and Georgia loses, he thinks Baylor slides into the 4 spot.

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That was qualified with Utah losing also

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DanaDane said:

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The argument for Utah not beating anyone beat being "dominant" as the reason they are #5 is kind of ironic since it was the exact opposite argument they used against us in 2014 when they said the scoring margin and dominance didn't matter.

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They've openly acknowledged that game control is factored in this year, while saying straight-up margin of victory isn't.

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And yet have never been able to define "game control" just like they can't define "eye test". In other words, it's their way of being able to pick the team they want to pick.

If we had played and beaten Ole Miss instead of SFA, would we be ahead of Utah??

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DanaDane said:

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The argument for Utah not beating anyone beat being "dominant" as the reason they are #5 is kind of ironic since it was the exact opposite argument they used against us in 2014 when they said the scoring margin and dominance didn't matter.

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They've openly acknowledged that game control is factored in this year, while saying straight-up margin of victory isn't.

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And yet have never been able to define "game control" just like they can't define "eye test". In other words, it's their way of being able to pick the team they want to pick.

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Wearing your tin foil I see

I'm thankful they aren't hyping up Baylor as much, it's a nice chip on the shoulder.

JustWinBears said:

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I'm thankful they aren't hyping up Baylor as much, it's a nice chip on the shoulder.

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To me they gave Baylor more love in the studio talk than I was expecting

I missed hearing Mullens at the end though

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JustWinBears said:

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I'm thankful they aren't hyping up Baylor as much, it's a nice chip on the shoulder.

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To me they gave Baylor more love in the studio talk than I was expecting

I missed hearing Mullens at the end though

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They definitely did, which is good as it shows there's a chance. Though the commissioner sang glowing praise of Utah about their whole season, where as he just talked up about Baylor getting hot recently. Baylor is clearly in the mix in that room, but it's going to take a close Utah win and a big Baylor win to pass Utah if they beat Oregon.

Let's win the Big 12 and see what happens!

RedBear05 said:

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I figured we'd be #7, but I really thought they were going to bump Oklahoma ahead of Utah after a win over a ranked OSU.

This love for Utah makes very little sense. Utah's loss looks better than OU's but Utah does not have a single quality win.

Sic'em Bears! and Go Ducks!

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Utah has played well but Im confident they would have two losses with our regular season schedule. OU and one of Tex/TCU/Iowa St/K State/ Ok State. They drop one of those five game Im fairly certain of that but need Oregon to win outright or controversial win. If we roll (unlikely as OU is a good team) then I think it will be a razor thin decision. If OU beats us handily I think they slip in assuming GA loses to LSU. Texas / K state / Ok State / Iowa St are all better than AZ St / Cal / Wash St.