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Supposedly Texas and OU have reached out to the SEC about joining

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zebbie
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Born_A_Bear said:

And TT becomes a fit because they don't present threat to other members. What a back handed compliment.
This cracked me up. He basically said, "They aren't bad, but they aren't good. Hey, they won't screw up!"
Osodecentx
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zebbie said:

Born_A_Bear said:

And TT becomes a fit because they don't present threat to other members. What a back handed compliment.
This cracked me up. He basically said, "They aren't bad, but they aren't good. Hey, they won't screw up!"
Tech is a good conference member and a good university
Born_A_Bear
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So much tradition will be lost. Learning to hate new teams/fans will be frustrating. I have a life time of grievances against fans of UT, OU, and TT.
Bear8084
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Born_A_Bear said:

So much tradition will be lost. Learning to hate new teams/fans will be frustrating. I have a life time of grievances against fans of UT, OU, and TT.


We may still be playing TT when this is all said and done...
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Bear8084 said:

Born_A_Bear said:

So much tradition will be lost. Learning to hate new teams/fans will be frustrating. I have a life time of grievances against fans of UT, OU, and TT.


We may still be playing TT when this is all said and done...
I hope
Zerooreo
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Peeps need to get real, and start to accept that Baylor athletics could very likely be standing at the precipice of its descent down to mediocracy and obscurity.

3-5 years from today, it is very reasonable to fear that:
  • Baylor Football will be mired in 5-7, 6-6, 5-7 seasons within an irrelevant sub-tier conference, led by a completely rebuilt, much cheaper, unheralded coaching staff
  • Scott Drew will be one of the Top 3 paid coaches in the country.......at a power conference program
  • Lady Bears basketball will be in the midst of a coaching carousel, as the disillusioned blue-haired season ticket holders still proclaim the team has Final Four talent year in and year out
  • Mack Rhoades will be 2 years into his next bigger gig at a power conference program, and the clear pushing pin doll for most Baylor fans as they lament back on where it all went wrong for their once storied programs

Aliceinbubbleland
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An interesting thread on TigerDroppings regarding Kim's move to LSU. If not true then the timing for Mulkey and Schlossnagle was awesome.

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If the women's basketball coach at Baylor knew this was coming we would all know. There's no way reporters wouldn't have gotten wind of this if the non revenue coaches all knew. I bet this was basically between the Presidents, ADs, and more than likely the head football coaches.

This was kept as close to the vest as possible.

Coaches have agents, especially those who make over a million dollars a year. Agents hear things.

Mulkey is one, Jim Schlossnagle is another (TCU baseball coach). Hopping from TCU to A&M seemed like a lateral move a few months ago. Now, at the very least, it's a very fortunate coincidence.


Aliceinbubbleland
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Meanwhile Team USA just lost to FRANCE!!!! Let that sink in.
Aliceinbubbleland
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Zerooreo said:

Peeps need to get real, and start to accept that Baylor athletics could very likely be standing at the precipice of its descent down to mediocracy and obscurity.

3-5 years from today, it is very reasonable to fear that:
  • Baylor Football will be mired in 5-7, 6-6, 5-7 seasons within an irrelevant sub-tier conference, led by a completely rebuilt, much cheaper, unheralded coaching staff
  • Scott Drew will be one of the Top 3 paid coaches in the country.......at a power conference program
  • Lady Bears basketball will be in the midst of a coaching carousel, as the disillusioned blue-haired season ticket holders still proclaim the team has Final Four talent year in and year out
  • Mack Rhoades will be 2 years into his next bigger gig at a power conference program, and the clear pushing pin doll for most Baylor fans as they lament back on where it all went wrong for their once storied programs


If true Tommye Lou Davis is measuring her curtains and warming up the dozer before headed to McLane Stadium.
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Bear8084 said:

Born_A_Bear said:

So much tradition will be lost. Learning to hate new teams/fans will be frustrating. I have a life time of grievances against fans of UT, OU, and TT.


We may still be playing TT when this is all said and done...
One can hope, but I fear TT will end up in a power conference one way or another while Baylor will not. If the B1G is willing to even talk to Oklahoma State, then they would certainly be willing to talk to TT, and that's a problem because Baylor's alternative power conference options become even more narrow than they already were.
Russell Gym
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If other conferences attempt to expand to the rumored 20-24 SEC mega-conference level, that might open a window for us.
Aberzombie1892
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Russell Gym said:

If other conferences attempt to expand to the rumored 20-24 SEC mega-conference level, that might open a window for us.
Potentially, but if the SEC reaches its intended mega conference - by raiding the B1G for Ohio State and Michigan and raiding the ACC for Clemson and Florida State - it will be ultimately be the only true power conference since no other conference would come close in terms of value. The scariest part is that if the SEC added Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, Florida State, Notre Dame, and maybe Penn State (and maybe a couple of more teams depending on preferences), no other conference would really matter at all regardless of their membership composition since they wouldn't be in a conference with big time programs - basically, these other conferences could exist, but they wouldn't (1) get top tier recruits and (2) have enough in media payouts to ever really make them relevant.
Russell Gym
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If that takes place, then they just play each other and hand out checks and trophies to all members. Surely not all those schools can have above .500 records playing each other every week. Will casual TV viewers be interested in NFL JR vs D-2 level school matchups that will be needed for everyone in SEC to have a feel-good record?
historian
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Aberzombie1892 said:

Russell Gym said:

If other conferences attempt to expand to the rumored 20-24 SEC mega-conference level, that might open a window for us.
Potentially, but if the SEC reaches its intended mega conference - by raiding the B1G for Ohio State and Michigan and raiding the ACC for Clemson and Florida State - it will be ultimately be the only true power conference since no other conference would come close in terms of value. The scariest part is that if the SEC added Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, Florida State, Notre Dame, and maybe Penn State (and maybe a couple of more teams depending on preferences), no other conference would really matter at all regardless of their membership composition since they wouldn't be in a conference with big time programs - basically, these other conferences could exist, but they wouldn't (1) get top tier recruits and (2) have enough in media payouts to ever really make them relevant.


If that were to happen, it might be time for someone to take legal action as a form of trust busting. There is no reason one conference nice should have a monopoly.

Maybe that's the route that should be taken to prevent the sec from expanding.
Russell Gym
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historian said:

Aberzombie1892 said:

Russell Gym said:

If other conferences attempt to expand to the rumored 20-24 SEC mega-conference level, that might open a window for us.
Potentially, but if the SEC reaches its intended mega conference - by raiding the B1G for Ohio State and Michigan and raiding the ACC for Clemson and Florida State - it will be ultimately be the only true power conference since no other conference would come close in terms of value. The scariest part is that if the SEC added Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, Florida State, Notre Dame, and maybe Penn State (and maybe a couple of more teams depending on preferences), no other conference would really matter at all regardless of their membership composition since they wouldn't be in a conference with big time programs - basically, these other conferences could exist, but they wouldn't (1) get top tier recruits and (2) have enough in media payouts to ever really make them relevant.


If that were to happen, it might be time for someone to take legal action as a form of trust busting. There is no reason one conference nice should have a monopoly.

Maybe that's the route that should be taken to prevent the sec from expanding.

Looks like a complete break with the entire current structure. Creating their own league and playoffs - can that actually be stopped?
Robert Wilson
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NIL may be a bigger separating point for us than simple conference affiliation. There is a game there that we are probably not prepared to play.
boognish_bear
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Neither made the conference championship game and one is not even bowl eligible.

BaylorGrad09
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boognish_bear said:

Neither made the conference championship game and one is not even bowl eligible.




The SEC doesn't care about winners. They've got enough of those. They need someone for the winners to beat on a regular basis, and those two happen to have the two largest fanbases. The SEC dream would be for both to become Tennessee.
Robert Wilson
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No take backs
contrario
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BaylorGrad09 said:

boognish_bear said:

Neither made the conference championship game and one is not even bowl eligible.




The SEC doesn't care about winners. They've got enough of those. They need someone for the winners to beat on a regular basis, and those two happen to have the two largest fanbases. The SEC dream would be for both to become Tennessee.
Let's be honest, if they cared about bringing in better competition, they would have looked elsewhere. All they want is eyeballs and UT brings that. They are the Dallas Cowboys of college football: ancient history of winning that built a large fan base and those fans are holding onto bygone eras of success.
BU82EX
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BaylorGrad09 said:

boognish_bear said:

Neither made the conference championship game and one is not even bowl eligible.




The SEC doesn't care about winners. They've got enough of those. They need someone for the winners to beat on a regular basis, and those two happen to have the two largest fanbases. The SEC dream would be for both to become Tennessee.
Or the Nebraska of the Big Ten!
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