2018 NBA: Draft / Trades / Free Agency

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Keyser Soze
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So we have talking about who falls to the Mavs at 5 - Porter Jr, Mo Bamba

Trade rumor going hard

Memphis needs to dump cash - take on Chandler Parson's giant contract and get the 4th pick - not much needed in return - Mavs interested

KW out of SA and forcing his way to LA with ..... LBJ



EasyE
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Any Baylor players involved?
Keyser Soze
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I did see where the Jazz's PF Derrick Favors might be a FA target for the Mavs. He is playing the same position as Udoh.

Keyser Soze
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MSU's Jackson working out for Mavs today
Chanceux
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Speaking of a Jackson, recently read a interview with PJax. I hope he can stick with an NBA team this year. His absence from an NBA roster is mind boggling.

https://hoopshype.com/2018/06/01/pierre-jackson-macabbi-tel-aviv-dleague-76ers-mavericks-free-agent/
Keyser Soze
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Would love to see him make it. It is the highest league in the world in a game played world wide. With only two rounds, just being drafted and ever making a roster says a great deal.

I have played pick up over the years with some professionals from various levels that give you prospective. A CBA guy was just a freak athlete that didn't miss, but couldn't sniff the NBA. A retired euro league player owned the court against in shape guys 20 years younger than him. I was blown away by a guy 30 years older than me that was a journeyman in the NBA in the 60s .

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Luka Doncic - Euroleague MVP at 19/20 years of age is said to be Mavs heart's desire. May not be there at 5

Ayton - Zona center and Bagley Duke PF look like 1 & 2 The next group: Doncic, Porter Jr, J Jackson Jr, Bamba could be in any order - even OU's Young could slip in there

xiledinok
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Going to be a busy draft night. Euro MVP would be wise choice for Mavs.
Wichitabear
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Just listened to Shaka talk about Bamba. Don't hate me but Shaka is so nice. Surprised he hasn't won more games. I know nice isn't going to cut it, lol, but he is so likeable like our Drew. Ok
Assassin
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The Mavericks swapped the No. 5 pick and a 2019 protected first-rounder for the No. 3 pick and selected Luka Doncic at No. 3.

Not many teenagers can say they were the MVP on a championship-winning EuroLeague team, won an ACB title with another MVP, and earned a EuroBasket title with Slovenia. His skills with the ball are truly elite for his ability to find passing lanes, and his skillset as a pick-and-roll guard are unlike any other prospect. The Slovenian guard possesses a near-prototype body for a guard at 6'8" and 230 pounds, and Real Madrid has even used him as a small forward. If Doncic eventually becomes a deadly shooter, he could be one of the best European prospects in NBA history. He'll be a popular target in the middle rounds of fantasy drafts and is an ideal franchise player for the Mavericks to build around.
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Not sure that I wouldnt have stayed at 5 and taken Bamba. The middle is where we have been lacking since we disbanded the championship team.
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The Mavericks and Sixers are swapping late second-round selections, according to Shams Charania of Yahoo Sports, who reports (via Twitter) that Dallas is getting the 56th and 60th overall picks from Philadelphia in exchange for No. 54.
The 76ers initially owned six picks in the 2018 draft, but have been active on the trade market. The club sent the 38th overall pick to Detroit and the 39th overall pick to the Lakers, and will now complete a two-for-one deal with the Mavs.
With their newly-acquired 54th pick, the Sixers are drafting SMU guard Shake Milton, tweets Charania. Melton scored 18.0 points per game as a junior and shot 43% from 3-point range.
The Mavericks grabbed Louisville's Ray Spalding at No. 56 and completed the draft by taking Dayton's Kostas Antetokounmpo, the brother of Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo, at No. 60. Spalding, a power forward, completed an impressive junior season for the Cardinals, averaging 12.3 points and 8.7 rebounds per night. Kostas Antetokounmpo spent one season with the Flyers, averaging 5.2 points per game.
Assassin
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Keyser Soze said:

Luka Doncic - Euroleague MVP at 19/20 years of age is said to be Mavs heart's desire. May not be there at 5

Ayton - Zona center and Bagley Duke PF look like 1 & 2 The next group: Doncic, Porter Jr, J Jackson Jr, Bamba could be in any order - even OU's Young could slip in there


good call.

Hopefully he's worth the price
RioRata
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23864234/2018-nba-draft-six-big-first-round-winners

Mike Schmitz: The Mavericks are the clear winner of the night, wheeling and dealing for arguably the top prospect in the draft in Doncic.
Assassin
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Donnie Nelson Advocated For Luka Doncic As He Did Giannis Antetokounmpo In 2013
JUN 22, 2018 9:23 AM

The Dallas Mavericks traded up to select Luka Doncic on draft night, which could have been influenced by their decision not to remain in their draft slot in 2013 to select Giannis Antetokounmpo.
According to Tim MacMahon, the last time Donnie Nelson advocated to Mark Cuban to trade up for a player prior to Doncic, it was for Antetokounmpo.
"I think the fact that Donnie Nelson was absolutely, 100 percent sold that this is the guy we need to get, that spoke loudly to Cuban," said MacMahon. "Because the last time Donnie Nelson highly recommended a European prospect, Cuban said 'Nah...'
"They drafted his younger brother (Kostas Antetokounmpo) tonight.
"In 2013, the Mavericks had their first lottery pick in forever and Donnie Nelson said 'Look, this Greek kid is going to be the best player in this draft. We should take him. We should take him.'
"Cuban said 'Nah... We need cap space. Let's trade down. Let's trade down'
"Traded down a couple times and ended up with Shane Larkin."
MacMahon added that he first heard about the Mavericks' interest in Antetokounmpo soon after the draft.
TIM MACMAHON/ESPN
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RioRata said:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23864234/2018-nba-draft-six-big-first-round-winners
wow!

From Insider:

Trade grades: Who wins the Luka Doncic-Trae Young swap?

Kostas Lymperopoulos/NBAE/Getty Images
9:07 PM CT
Kevin Pelton
ESPN Staff Writer

Mavericks get: Luka Doncic (No. 3 pick)
Hawks get: Trae Young (No. 5 pick), 2019 first-round pick (protected)

Dallas Mavericks: A

Ordinarily, I'm not a believer in trading up in the draft. When I put together my version of a pick value chart for the NBA draft similar to the ones that are commonplace in football, I found that, when the higher salary was factored in, teams overrated higher picks as compared to lower picks.

Additionally, the results of trading up in the draft have typically not been great. For every situation like Utah last year, which moved up to No. 13 to take Rookie of the Year contender Donovan Mitchell, there are multiple deals like the Chicago Bulls giving up the picks that became Gary Harris and Jusuf Nurkic (plus a future second-round pick and taking back the bad contract of Anthony Randolph) in order to trade up for Doug McDermott.

Every rule has its exception, though, and this trade appears to be one of them. In moving from the fifth pick to the third pick, the Mavericks assured themselves landing my top prospect in this year's draft, Luka Doncic. Doncic doesn't just have the best statistical projection by my model in 2018 -- he has the best ever (ever in this case being back to 2003, surpassing Anthony Davis, though LeBron James is not included because he came to the NBA out of high school).

If we go by Doncic's consensus projection, taking into account his slide to No. 3 in the draft, he's projected to provide $27 million more value over the life of his four-year rookie contract than Young. The difference in salary jumping up from fifth to third takes out about $5 million of that, leaving Doncic at No. 3 as $22 million more valuable than Young at No. 5. Because that gap is so enormous, it will be impossible for Dallas to lose this trade on paper no matter where the future pick the Mavericks will send to Atlanta falls.

The value of first-round picks will diminish going forward as the rookie scale for first-round picks continues to increase as part of the current NBA collective bargaining agreement, jumping by 15 percent next season along with a bump for the growth in the salary cap. As a result, I project only the No. 1 pick in 2019 as more valuable ($26 million net value) than the difference between Doncic and Young. And if the Mavericks somehow win the lottery next year, they'll keep their pick, which is protected in the top five, according to a Yahoo report.

Now, so far this analysis has assumed that Doncic is indeed the generational prospect my projections suggest. Clearly, at least the Phoenix Suns (who took Deandre Ayton at No. 1), Sacramento Kings (who took Marvin Bagley III at No. 2) and Hawks disagree. It remains to be seen whether his relatively average athleticism will prevent Doncic from becoming the same kind of contributor in the NBA he was in Europe as a teenager.

Doncic's fit in Dallas will be interesting. The Mavericks took their point guard of the future, Dennis Smith Jr., in the lottery a year ago. While Smith's rookie season was uneven, at age 20 he's on track to become a capable NBA starter. That will push Doncic to an off-ball role as secondary ballhandler.

Doncic shot an effective 47.4 percent on catch-and-shoot opportunities from the shorter FIBA 3-point line this season -- which isn't great -- according to Synergy Sports tracking. Smith actually showed somewhat more potential as a floor spacer, making 37.2 percent of his catch-and-shoot 3s, per NBA Advanced Stats. (Smith's overall 3-point percentage was pulled down by attempting 2.7 pull-up 3s per game and making them at just a 27.4 percent clip.)

Suddenly, finding a third perimeter player to fit with Doncic and Smith becomes a crucial task for Dallas. That player needs to be capable of defending the opponent's best wing scorer, no matter his size -- a task Doncic should not have to take on -- and spacing the floor for Doncic and Smith with 3-point shooting. For now, Wesley Matthews plays that role, but at age 31 (32 in October) and heading into the final season of his contract, Matthews is unlikely to be part of the Mavericks' mix long term.

If Dallas can find the right fit alongside Doncic and Smith, coach Rick Carlisle should enjoy taking advantage of having two good pick-and-roll options. Much like how former Carlisle assistant Terry Stotts uses Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum with the Portland Trail Blazers, Carlisle can design sets that get Doncic and Smith good opportunities to run pick-and-roll when the ball is swung to them on the weak side of the court after help defenders are distracted by the threat the other player presents.

The other step in this process will be finding Doncic and Smith a lob threat to serve as roll man from the center position. Moving up from No. 5 to No. 3 cuts slightly into the Mavericks' cap space, leaving them with approximately $17 million to spend if they pick up Dirk Nowitzki's team option and retain the rights to free agents Seth Curry, Yogi Ferrell and Salah Mejri.

Shedding some of those free agents could put Dallas in position to make a max offer to Houston Rockets restricted free agent Clint Capela, who would be an ideal fit with Doncic and Smith. Alternatively, the Mavericks could make a run at DeMarcus Cousins if the New Orleans Pelicans are unwilling to offer anywhere close to his $30.3 million max, though Cousins wouldn't fit as ideally with Doncic and Smith in terms of game or age, not to mention his health as he returns from an Achilles tear.

Make no mistake, Dallas is taking a risk here. If Doncic proves just a decent NBA player, and not a star, giving up a potential lottery pick to move up two spots will look like a mistake in hindsight. Still, I'm enough of a believer in Doncic's potential to view this trade as well worth the risk.

Atlanta Hawks: D

There's certainly a way to justify this trade from the Hawks' perspective. If they weren't sold on Doncic's potential, picking up a future first-round pick and getting the player they really wanted is a much better move than simply picking Young at No. 3.

After all, if we look at the average values of the two picks, this is surely a huge win for Atlanta. The typical difference between the value provided by the No. 3 pick and the No. 5 pick over their first two contracts is less than $3 million, and even with the rookie scale increasing next season, all 30 first-round picks are worth more than that. So from that standpoint, the Hawks can't lose!

Of course, for all the reasons I just laid out, Doncic isn't a typical No. 3 pick, so Atlanta had to aim higher than just winning the trade by a value chart that is incapable of considering such distinctions (or accounting for a 2019 draft that appears relatively weak at this point). I would have preferred simply taking Doncic to making this deal.

None of this pessimism should be construed as a knock on Young, who landed at No. 3 in my draft projections behind Doncic and Ayton. Aside from the inevitable comparisons to Doncic because of this trade, going to the Hawks looks like an ideal scenario for Young, assuming they trade starting point guard Dennis Schroder sooner rather than later.

Atlanta's rebuild, still in the early stages, has produced some solid contributors (John Collins and Taurean Prince foremost among them) but has lacked a star. Young can play in an offense built around his ability to pull up for 3s and distribute out of the pick-and-roll, with Collins as a terrific roll man. And with the Hawks still very much thinking long term, there's little pressure on him to produce right away.

Having added this draft pick from Dallas to two extra ones in this year's first round and potentially another in 2019 or 2020 from the Cleveland Cavaliers (top-10 protected both years), Atlanta should be able to add plenty of young talent to supplement the pieces already in place
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2018-19 CURRENT SALARY CAP NUMBERS

Listed in the millions of dollars

ACTIVE ROSTER CAP
139.5 - Cavaliers
137.6 - Thunder
126.6 - Raptors
124.0 - Wizards
118.8 - Heat
113.8 - Timberwolves
112.6 - Pistons
112.5 - Clippers
111.7 - Hornets
108.5 - Trail Blazers
107.3 - Celtics
105.9 - Nuggets
103.5 - Grizzlies
102.7 - Warriors
100.3 - Pelicans
97.3 - Knicks
96.1 - Bucks
90.6 - Pacers
90.4 - Magic
89.6 - Spurs
89.3 - Jazz
86.7 - Nets
79.8 - Suns
78.9 - Rockets
71.8 - Kings
70.5 - 76ers
69.5 - Hawks
69.2 - Mavericks
61.5 - Bulls
39.1 - Lakers

DEAD MONEY
7.4 - Bucks
5.5 - Nets
5.3 - Pistons
5.1 - Trail Blazers
4.7 - Kings
2.6 - Timberwolves
2.3 - Hawks
2.2 - Pacers
1.9 - Spurs
1.5 - Grizzlies
1.5 - Heat
1.0 - Raptors
0.9 - Clippers
0.9 - Warriors
0.8 - Wizards
0.3 - Magic
0.1 - Celtics
0.1 - Rockets

CAP HOLD
114.0 - Lakers
81.5 - Rockets
67.2 - Warriors
64.0 - Trail Blazers
60.9 - 76ers
56.8 - Spurs
56.0 - Pelicans
54.1 - Bulls
52.9 - Mavericks
51.4 - Jazz
45.0 - Clippers
42.5 - Celtics
41.2 - Bucks
41.1 - Nets
37.2 - Pistons
36.7 - Magic
35.6 - Timberwolves
34.1 - Nuggets
31.6 - Raptors
30.7 - Heat
30.3 - Knicks
29.6 - Suns
28.0 - Hornets
26.7 - Grizzlies
26.3 - Cavaliers
24.2 - Kings
17.6 - Hawks
15.1 - Wizards
12.6 - Thunder
8.4 - Pacers

TOTAL CAP
160.5 - Rockets
156.3 - Pelicans
153.2 - Lakers
148.3 - Spurs
140.7 - Jazz
139.5 - Cavaliers
137.6 - Thunder
133.2 - Nets
131.4 - 76ers
127.6 - Knicks
127.6 - Raptors
127.5 - Magic
124.8 - Wizards
122.1 - Mavericks
120.4 - Heat
117.9 - Pistons
116.4 - Timberwolves
115.6 - Bulls
113.5 - Trail Blazers
113.4 - Clippers
111.7 - Hornets
109.4 - Suns
107.4 - Celtics
105.9 - Nuggets
105.1 - Grizzlies
103.6 - Warriors
103.5 - Bucks
101.2 - Pacers
100.6 - Kings
89.5 - Hawks

CAP MAX SPACE
11.5 - Hawks
0.4 - Kings
-0.2 - Pacers
-2.5 - Bucks
-2.6 - Warriors
-4.1 - Grizzlies
-4.9 - Nuggets
-6.4 - Celtics
-8.4 - Suns
-10.7 - Hornets
-12.4 - Clippers
-12.5 - Trail Blazers
-14.6 - Bulls
-15.4 - Timberwolves
-16.9 - Pistons
-19.4 - Heat
-21.1 - Mavericks
-23.8 - Wizards
-26.5 - Magic
-26.6 - Knicks
-26.6 - Raptors
-30.4 - 76ers
-32.2 - Nets
-36.5 - Thunder
-38.5 - Cavaliers
-39.7 - Jazz
-47.3 - Spurs
-52.2 - Lakers
-55.3 - Pelicans
-59.5 - Rockets

PRACTICAL CAP SPACE
61.9 - Lakers
39.5 - Bulls
31.8 - Mavericks
30.5 - 76ers
29.2 - Hawks
24.6 - Kings
22.0 - Rockets
21.2 - Suns
11.7 - Jazz
10.2 - Magic
9.5 - Spurs
8.9 - Nets
8.2 - Pacers
3.7 - Knicks
0.7 - Pelicans
-2.5 - Bucks
-2.6 - Warriors
-4.1 - Grizzlies
-4.9 - Nuggets
-6.4 - Celtics
-10.7 - Hornets
-12.4 - Clippers
-12.5 - Trail Blazers
-15.4 - Timberwolves
-16.9 - Pistons
-19.4 - Heat
-23.8 - Wizards
-26.6 - Raptors
-36.5 - Thunder
-38.5 - Cavaliers
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2018-19 SALARIES (Age in parenthesis)

Listed in the millions of dollars

DALLAS MAVERICKS
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT
24.1 - Harrison Barnes (26)
18.6 - Wesley Matthews (31)
9.6 - Dwight Powell (26)
5.0 - Dirk Nowitzki (40) - Team Option
3.8 - Dennis Smith, Jr (20)
3.7 - Jose Barea (33)
1.5 - Dorian Finney-Smith (25) - Non-Guaranteed
1.4 - Kyle Collinsworth (26) - Non-Guaranteed
1.4 - Maxi Kleber (26) - Non-Guaranteed

DEAD CAP
None

CAP HOLDS
9.9 - Doug McDermott (26) - RFA
8.0 - Nerlens Noel (24) - UFA
6.5 - Luka Doncic (19) - Draft Pick
3.9 - Seth Curry (27) - UFA
2.9 - Yogi Ferrell (25) - RFA
1.8 - Aaron Harrison (23) - UFA
1.8 - Salah Mejri (32) - RFA


HOUSTON ROCKETS
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT
30.4 - James Harden (28)
20.4 - Ryan Anderson (30)
13.5 - Eric Gordon (29)
8.0 - P.J. Tucker (33)
3.7 - Nene Hilario (35)
1.5 - Chinanu Onuaku (21)
1.4 - Zhou Qi (22) - Non-Guaranteed

DEAD CAP
0.1 - Troy Williams (23)

CAP HOLDS
35.4 - Chris Paul (33) - UFA
12.9 - Trevor Ariza (32) - UFA
7.0 - Clint Capela (24) - RFA
3.9 - Tarik Black (26) - UFA
1.6 - Aaron Jackson (32) - UFA
1.5 - Gerald Green (32) - UFA
1.5 - Joe Johnson (36) - UFA
1.5 - Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (31) - UFA


SAN ANTONIO SPURS
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT
22.4 - LaMarcus Aldridge (32)
20.1 - Kawhi Leonard (26)
16.0 - Pau Gasol (37)
12.4 Patrick Mills (29)
10.0 - Danny Green (31) - Player Option
2.5 - Manu Ginobili (40)
1.7 - Derrick White (23)
1.7 - Joffrey Lauvergne (26) - Player Option
1.5 - Dejounte Murray (21)
1.4 - Brandon Paul (27) - Non-Guaranteed

DEAD CAP
1.9 - Tim Duncan (42)

CAP HOLDS
23.2 - Tony Parker (36) - UFA
10.1 - Rudy Gay (31) - Opted out
6.5 - Kyle Anderson (24) - RFA
1.7 - Davis Bertans (25) - RFA
1.7 - Bryn Forbes (24) - RFA
?? - Lonnie Walker IV (19) - Draft pick
xiledinok
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Many of those names above give me reason to congratulate Royce O'Neal for job security over the next 4 years. Get that pension.
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Texasjeremy said:

2018-19 SALARIES (Age in parenthesis)

Listed in the millions of dollars

DALLAS MAVERICKS
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT
24.1 - Harrison Barnes (26)-keep. Too young to trade unless perfect deal arises.
18.6 - Wesley Matthews (31)-move
9.6 - Dwight Powell (26)-keeper but for perfect deal
5.0 - Dirk Nowitzki (40) - Team Option-final tour
3.8 - Dennis Smith, Jr (20)-keep
3.7 - Jose Barea (33)- keep or perfect trade
1.5 - Dorian Finney-Smith (25) - Non-Guaranteed- keep. He started shooting the 3 well at the end of 2018 regular season. Doesn't make many mistakes.
1.4 - Kyle Collinsworth (26) - Non-Guaranteed-dump
1.4 - Maxi Kleber (26) - Non-Guaranteed-dump

DEAD CAP
None

CAP HOLDS
9.9 - Doug McDermott (26) - RFA-keep
8.0 - Nerlens Noel (24) - UFA-dump
6.5 - Luka Doncic (19) - Draft Pick-keep
3.9 - Seth Curry (27) - UFA-keep
2.9 - Yogi Ferrell (25) - RFA-move on
1.8 - Aaron Harrison (23) - UFA-dump
1.8 - Salah Mejri (32) - RFA-keep at low price


HOUSTON ROCKETS
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT
30.4 - James Harden (28)-keep
20.4 - Ryan Anderson (30)-dump-
13.5 - Eric Gordon (29)-keep
8.0 - P.J. Tucker (33)-keep
3.7 - Nene Hilario (35)-keep
1.5 - Chinanu Onuaku (21)-dump
1.4 - Zhou Qi (22) - Non-Guaranteed-dump

DEAD CAP
0.1 - Troy Williams (23)

CAP HOLDS
35.4 - Chris Paul (33) - UFA-keep
12.9 - Trevor Ariza (32) - UFA-depends on offseason
7.0 - Clint Capela (24) - RFA-keep
3.9 - Tarik Black (26) - UFA-dump
1.6 - Aaron Jackson (32) - UFA-dump
1.5 - Gerald Green (32) - UFA-keep cheap
1.5 - Joe Johnson (36) - UFA-dump
1.5 - Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (31) - UFA-dump


SAN ANTONIO SPURS
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT
22.4 - LaMarcus Aldridge (32)-keep
20.1 - Kawhi Leonard (26)-trade
16.0 - Pau Gasol (37)-keep
12.4 Patrick Mills (29)-keep
10.0 - Danny Green (31) - Player Option-keep
2.5 - Manu Ginobili (40)-his final season
1.7 - Derrick White (23)-?
1.7 - Joffrey Lauvergne (26) - Player Option-keep this guy
1.5 - Dejounte Murray (21)-keep
1.4 - Brandon Paul (27) - Non-Guaranteed-depends

DEAD CAP
1.9 - Tim Duncan (42)

CAP HOLDS
23.2 - Tony Parker (36) - UFA-Parker's choice
10.1 - Rudy Gay (31) - Opted out-dump
6.5 - Kyle Anderson (24) - RFA-keep
1.7 - Davis Bertans (25) - RFA-keep
1.7 - Bryn Forbes (24) - RFA-keep
?? - Lonnie Walker IV (19) - Draft pick-keep
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LA looking like the favorite for LaBron

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Assassin
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Keyser Soze said:

LA looking like the favorite for LaBron


Nuggets stepping into the picture. Interesting
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Keyser Soze said:

LA looking like the favorite for LaBron


$154 mil over 4 to LA. Like we havent had enough LeBron, he goes to the media capital of the world. Get ready for LeBron baby diapers LeBron sharpies, LeBron widgets, LeBron knee high socks, LeBron you name it...
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