NCAA's Rich Paul rule

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robby44
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Why is the NCAA involved in this.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2019/8/7/20757985/rich-paul-rule-ncaa-nba-draft-college-basketball

New rules restricting which agents athletes can work with are about more than one man.

One year ago, the NCAA announced college basketball players testing the NBA draft waters would be able to seek the guidance of an agent without losing their eligibility. On Tuesday, the NCAA issued a memo fine-tuning the restrictions around which agents athletes are allowed to hire.

A underclassman can work with an agent and retain his eligibility should he decide to return to school provided that the agent:

Has a bachelor's degree
Has been certified by the NBAPA for the last three years
Passes an in-person exam administered at the NCAA national office in Indianapolis

On its face, these regulations are being put in place to protect student-athletes from being exploited by individuals offering counsel without the proper means to provide it. In reality, this is just another avenue to ensure the NCAA is the one doing the exploiting. These rules offer nothing but a vain attempt to exert control over athletes who realize their talent is worth more than the cost of a scholarship.

Almost instantly, this mandate would earn the organic nickname it deserved: the Rich Paul rule.


Paul is the 37-year-old behind Klutch Sports and one of James' closest confidants. As legend has it, he caught the eye of a high school-aged LeBron in an airport because he was wearing a Warren Moon throwback jersey. Paul started to build a relationship with James from there and leveraged it into a thriving representation business for sports and entertainment. When Paul's second biggest client, Anthony Davis, made a trade demand earlier this year that held both the Pelicans and Lakers hostage, it made him one of the most infamous people in sports.


Unlike most agents, Rich Paul is African-American. Unlike most agents, he didn't go to college. He was too busy building an empire.

NBA players saw this as a naked attempt to single out Paul

Paul took college classes at Cleveland State and Akron before dropping out when James put him on the payroll (he has since been given an honorary degree from Cleveland State - go Vikings). Paul eventually began working for super agent Leon Rose at CAA when he realized he could do this himself, so long as he had LeBron at his side. Klutch Sports was born.

In a 2012 ESPN profile, Paul put his schooling in perspective:

"I had great teaching," Paul says. "Working with Nike and at CAA, that's the equivalent of going to Michigan Law School and to MIT."

At this point, Paul's accomplishments come with no asterisks. He is a self-styled mogul who is only gaining more influence both in the NBA and in Hollywood. The NCAA couldn't keep Rich Paul away if it tried he could always have an underling with a degree take a test in Indianapolis and handle the more hands-on aspects of representation. This is bigger than one man.

The NCAA's new rule isn't explicitly about Rich Paul. It's about making sure no unwanted parties can check its power.

The NCAA has been living in fear of agents for the entirety of its existence, marking the intersection between college athletes and personal advisors as the exact point where amateurism and professional sports start to blur. It's this context that made last year's decision to allow college basketball players to begin working with agents during the draft process feel like such a landmark occasion for proponents of athletes rights.

Of course, the NCAA has no interest in athletes rights. If they did, they would have used the sprawling FBI corruption investigation as an opportunity to rewrite the bylaws of their organization. Instead, the Condoleezza Rice-led commission that developed these rule changes did little more than double-down on the NCAA's existing standards.

The NCAA isn't requiring agents to have a degree and to pass a test so it can protect players. It's trying to protect its own money and power. This is the NCAA's attempt to eliminate any future individual who might threaten it.

The NCAA doesn't want athletes to turn pro it wants them to stay in school and help make money for everyone but themselves. This is the organization that truly, honest-to-god believes freshmen should be ineligible. This is the organization that booted a kicker off a college football team because he was profitizing his YouTube channel.

The NCAA only wants NCAA-approved agents giving advice so it can maintain its grift. The truth is that most of the people in the NCAA's universe do not have the best interests of the athletes at heart. It's why Jim Boeheim came out swinging against Darius Bazley, the former McDonald's All-American who reneged on his commitment to the Orange to instead train for the draft. Bazley, by the way, hired Rich Paul, signed a $1 million deal with New Balance, and still got drafted in the first round. That decision worked out just fine for him.

The NCAA is feeling the heat, both from athletes exploring other avenues to reach the pros and from the people who constantly point out their hypocrisy. In the end, every move the organization makes is to ensure its long-con keeps running. Trying to sanction where advice can come from is just the latest extension of that.
BaylorBears_254
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Just change the 1 and done rule and you don't have to worry about it.

This was such a bs, jealousy led move by the NCAA.
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"Unlike most agents, Rich Paul is African-American. Unlike most agents, he didn't go to college. He was too busy building an empire."

What does that even mean?

And, isn't "building an empire" just another way of saying "making money off of one the greatest basketball players in history because I lucked my way into it"?


robby44
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This rule is specifically designed to end Rich Paul's business and legacy and prevent future outsiders from spoiling profit for a limited, elite group of agents.
BaylorBears_254
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Too bad Rich Paul and Klutch sports will still be the premier face still.
xiledinok
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He has been fired a few times this offseason. He might have peaked as an agent.

NBA is getting rid of one and done soon. The league thinks so little of college basketball these days that it won't matter what the NCAA wishes to do in the future.
One team drafted a guy in the first round who skipped college this past year and instead did a three month internship with New Balance. There are more guys skipping college in the upcoming year to play pro ball overseas.
BaylorBears_254
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Reached his peak? He just got AD last year. As long as Bron is Klutch there is no peak for him.

He gets his guys paid thats for sure
xiledinok
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BaylorBears_254 said:

Reached his peak? He just got AD last year. As long as Bron is Klutch there is no peak for him.

He gets his guys paid thats for sure


He had several others fire him this summer. His reputation isn't the best. Not every guy wants to do business with Lebron.
BaylorBears_254
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Marcus Morris and Noel? 1 above average and one ****ty player. Noel missed his payday with the Mavs.

Im sure those two aren't gonna hurt his reputation.

Other than that Klutch will go on and on. He just got Bazley a 1mill dollar endorsement and he skipped college.
Also went in first round
xiledinok
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BaylorBears_254 said:

Marcus Morris and Noel? 1 above average and one ****ty player. Noel missed his payday with the Mavs.

Im sure those two aren't gonna hurt his reputation.

Other than that Klutch will go on and on. He just got Bazley a 1mill dollar endorsement and he skipped college.
Also went in first round


They are running away from him.
The banana boat crew and Billy Hunter are almost all gone. The owners will fix agents like Paul.

New Balance is desperate to get into basketball. They just greased a G Leaguer for a year.
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BarleyMcDougal said:

"Unlike most agents, Rich Paul is African-American. Unlike most agents, he didn't go to college. He was too busy building an empire."

What does that even mean?

And, isn't "building an empire" just another way of saying "making money off of one the greatest basketball players in history because I lucked my way into it"?



Maybe he lucked his way into it. Maybe he won life's lottery. Maybe he worked hard and succeeded. Who, other than you, is going to judge?
BaylorBears_254
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Gonna be hard for agents to stop Rich, this is a players driven league. He's gonna be atop the agents for a while.
xiledinok
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It's team LeBron running an agency.
He'll get out of the agency business and try to get in ownership once he retires.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

BarleyMcDougal said:

"Unlike most agents, Rich Paul is African-American. Unlike most agents, he didn't go to college. He was too busy building an empire."

What does that even mean?

And, isn't "building an empire" just another way of saying "making money off of one the greatest basketball players in history because I lucked my way into it"?



Maybe he lucked his way into it. Maybe he won life's lottery. Maybe he worked hard and succeeded. Who, other than you, is going to judge?
Well, apparently the NCAA.

I'm just pointing out the spurious implication that Paul was essentially outworking the agents who didn't luck into millions of dollars and a cushy job. I'm not sure why you're upset.
BaylorBears_254
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And then that'll make Klutch sports even more dominant.
xiledinok
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BaylorBears_254 said:

And then that'll make Klutch sports even more dominant.
With Davis only?
BaylorBears_254
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He's made it this far with Bron being the face of all his players, dont see how he wouldn't keep it up with Bron and Davis
xiledinok
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BaylorBears_254 said:

He's made it this far with Bron being the face of all his players, dont see how he wouldn't keep it up with Bron and Davis
Klutch will be history as soon as Lebron wants to go into ownership.
Paul is burning NBA owners and it appears the NCAA doesn't like him.

New Balance is trying to get into basketball shoes. I guess we'll see a bunch of guys on the Oklahoma City Blue wearing New Balance next season.
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NCAA just lifted the rule tho. Klutch Sports wins again
xiledinok
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BaylorBears_254 said:

NCAA just lifted the rule tho. Klutch Sports wins again


They ll be gone once Lebron moves onto ownership.
BaylorBears_254
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They'll be even more dominant then. They'll have access to much more.

Lebron as a owner would change the entire landscape of the NBA just as he done as a player
xiledinok
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BaylorBears_254 said:

They'll be even more dominant then. They'll have access to much more.

Lebron as a owner would change the entire landscape of the NBA just as he done as a player


He won't.
He ll be like Jordan. Same kinda of owner. NIKE will remind Lebron how it needs to work.
His legacy with the players association was a bad one. Chris Paul too.
Should be good fun.
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xiledinok said:

BaylorBears_254 said:

They'll be even more dominant then. They'll have access to much more.

Lebron as a owner would change the entire landscape of the NBA just as he done as a player


He won't.
He ll be like Jordan. Same kinda of owner. NIKE will remind Lebron how it needs to work.
His legacy with the players association was a bad one. Chris Paul too.
Should be good fun.


Jordan cares more about his shoes than he does Charlotte.

Bron will want to be the first ever to win a Championship as a player and Owner. He'll take it more serious and continue to use his platform to push his narrative that he always speaks on.
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BaylorBears_254 said:

xiledinok said:

BaylorBears_254 said:

They'll be even more dominant then. They'll have access to much more.

Lebron as a owner would change the entire landscape of the NBA just as he done as a player


He won't.
He ll be like Jordan. Same kinda of owner. NIKE will remind Lebron how it needs to work.
His legacy with the players association was a bad one. Chris Paul too.
Should be good fun.


Jordan cares more about his shoes than he does Charlotte.

Bron will want to be the first ever to win a Championship as a player and Owner. He'll take it more serious and continue to use his platform to push his narrative that he always speaks on.



We'll see how it turns out. Lebron can't be both. His boss is Nike.
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RIch Paul's Client List

GUARANTEED MONEY REMAINING (YEARS REMAINING) - PLAYER (CURRENT AGE)
$177,763,930 (6) - Ben Simmons (23) - 76ERS
$171,131,520 (4) - John Wall (29) - WIZARDS
$118,205,492 (5) - Draymond Green (29) - WARRIORS
$117,658,696 (3) - LeBron James (34) - LAKERS
$70,000,000 (4) - Eric Bledsoe (29) - BUCKS
$55,844,794 (2) - Anthony Davis (26) - LAKERS
$37,200,000 (3) - Cory Joseph (28) - KINGS
$18,539,130 (1) - Tristian Thompson (28) - CAVALIERS
$16,583,028 (2) - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (26) - LAKERS
$13,437,500 (1) - Jordan Clarkson (27) - CAVALIERS
$13,121,640 (2) - Darius Garland (19) - CAVALIERS
$11,000,000 (2) - Trey Lyles (23) - SPURS
$6,560,000 (2) - Markieff Morris (30) - PISTONS
$6,000,000 (1) - Montrezl Harrell (25) - CLIPPERS
$4,683,960 (2) - Darius Bazley (19) - THUNDER
$4,012,890 (2) - Ben McLemore (26) - ROCKETS
$3,755,400 (1) - Miles Bridges (21) - HORNETS
$2,475,840 (1) - Terrance Ferguson (21) - THUNDER
$2,416,291 (2) - Talen Horton-Tucker (18) - LAKERS
$2,321,735 (1) - Dejounte Murray (23) - SPURS
$898,310 (1) - Levi Randolph (26) - CAVALIERS
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Texasjeremy said:

RIch Paul's Client List

GUARANTEED MONEY REMAINING (YEARS REMAINING) - PLAYER (CURRENT AGE)
$177,763,930 (6) - Ben Simmons (23) - 76ERS
$171,131,520 (4) - John Wall (29) - WIZARDS
$118,205,492 (5) - Draymond Green (29) - WARRIORS
$117,658,696 (3) - LeBron James (34) - LAKERS
$70,000,000 (4) - Eric Bledsoe (29) - BUCKS
$55,844,794 (2) - Anthony Davis (26) - LAKERS
$37,200,000 (3) - Cory Joseph (28) - KINGS
$18,539,130 (1) - Tristian Thompson (28) - CAVALIERS
$16,583,028 (2) - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (26) - LAKERS
$13,437,500 (1) - Jordan Clarkson (27) - CAVALIERS
$13,121,640 (2) - Darius Garland (19) - CAVALIERS
$11,000,000 (2) - Trey Lyles (23) - SPURS
$6,560,000 (2) - Markieff Morris (30) - PISTONS
$6,000,000 (1) - Montrezl Harrell (25) - CLIPPERS
$4,683,960 (2) - Darius Bazley (19) - THUNDER
$4,012,890 (2) - Ben McLemore (26) - ROCKETS
$3,755,400 (1) - Miles Bridges (21) - HORNETS
$2,475,840 (1) - Terrance Ferguson (21) - THUNDER
$2,416,291 (2) - Talen Horton-Tucker (18) - LAKERS
$2,321,735 (1) - Dejounte Murray (23) - SPURS
$898,310 (1) - Levi Randolph (26) - CAVALIERS


And this is why he's a top agent, he gets his guys PAID.

Harrel will get paid soon, Murray will as well in the coming years, and so will some of those others.

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Texasjeremy said:

RIch Paul's Client List

GUARANTEED MONEY REMAINING (YEARS REMAINING) - PLAYER (CURRENT AGE)
$177,763,930 (6) - Ben Simmons (23) - 76ERS
$171,131,520 (4) - John Wall (29) - WIZARDS
$118,205,492 (5) - Draymond Green (29) - WARRIORS
$117,658,696 (3) - LeBron James (34) - LAKERS
$70,000,000 (4) - Eric Bledsoe (29) - BUCKS
$55,844,794 (2) - Anthony Davis (26) - LAKERS
$37,200,000 (3) - Cory Joseph (28) - KINGS
$18,539,130 (1) - Tristian Thompson (28) - CAVALIERS
$16,583,028 (2) - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (26) - LAKERS
$13,437,500 (1) - Jordan Clarkson (27) - CAVALIERS
$13,121,640 (2) - Darius Garland (19) - CAVALIERS
$11,000,000 (2) - Trey Lyles (23) - SPURS
$6,560,000 (2) - Markieff Morris (30) - PISTONS
$6,000,000 (1) - Montrezl Harrell (25) - CLIPPERS
$4,683,960 (2) - Darius Bazley (19) - THUNDER
$4,012,890 (2) - Ben McLemore (26) - ROCKETS
$3,755,400 (1) - Miles Bridges (21) - HORNETS
$2,475,840 (1) - Terrance Ferguson (21) - THUNDER
$2,416,291 (2) - Talen Horton-Tucker (18) - LAKERS
$2,321,735 (1) - Dejounte Murray (23) - SPURS
$898,310 (1) - Levi Randolph (26) - CAVALIERS
lol
Ya, the dude just lucked into all of that
xiledinok
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Texasjeremy said:

RIch Paul's Client List

GUARANTEED MONEY REMAINING (YEARS REMAINING) - PLAYER (CURRENT AGE)
$177,763,930 (6) - Ben Simmons (23) - 76ERS
$171,131,520 (4) - John Wall (29) - WIZARDS
$118,205,492 (5) - Draymond Green (29) - WARRIORS
$117,658,696 (3) - LeBron James (34) - LAKERS
$70,000,000 (4) - Eric Bledsoe (29) - BUCKS
$55,844,794 (2) - Anthony Davis (26) - LAKERS
$37,200,000 (3) - Cory Joseph (28) - KINGS
$18,539,130 (1) - Tristian Thompson (28) - CAVALIERS
$16,583,028 (2) - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (26) - LAKERS
$13,437,500 (1) - Jordan Clarkson (27) - CAVALIERS
$13,121,640 (2) - Darius Garland (19) - CAVALIERS
$11,000,000 (2) - Trey Lyles (23) - SPURS
$6,560,000 (2) - Markieff Morris (30) - PISTONS
$6,000,000 (1) - Montrezl Harrell (25) - CLIPPERS
$4,683,960 (2) - Darius Bazley (19) - THUNDER
$4,012,890 (2) - Ben McLemore (26) - ROCKETS
$3,755,400 (1) - Miles Bridges (21) - HORNETS
$2,475,840 (1) - Terrance Ferguson (21) - THUNDER
$2,416,291 (2) - Talen Horton-Tucker (18) - LAKERS
$2,321,735 (1) - Dejounte Murray (23) - SPURS
$898,310 (1) - Levi Randolph (26) - CAVALIERS
lol
Ya, the dude just lucked into all of that
It's Lebron.
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All I can say is "Rich" is right.
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robby44 said:

This rule is specifically designed to end Rich Paul's business and legacy and prevent future outsiders from spoiling profit for a limited, elite group of agents.


Agree.
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