Will Kansas Basketball really get sanctioned?

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Jeremy
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KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA
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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/27662997/report-ncaa-set-notify-kansas-violations

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Kansas is expected to receive a notice of allegations from the NCAA regarding alleged recruiting violations that surfaced during a federal criminal trial last year, according to the Kansas City Star.

The latest development was expected after NCAA executive vice president Stan Wilcox said earlier this summer that at least six schools would receive notices of allegations, which are expected to include Level I allegations -- the most serious under NCAA rules.

It is unclear whether Jayhawks coach Bill Self will be charged with a coach control violation, which could result in his suspension for as long as one season.

Self, 56, has guided Kansas to at least a share of 14 consecutive Big 12 regular-season titles, three NCAA Final Four appearances and the 2008 NCAA championship. He was president of the National Association of Basketball Coaches in 2017-18.

Earlier this month, former Adidas consultant T.J. Gassnola was sentenced to probation and fined for his role in pay-for-play schemes to steer recruits to Kansas and other Adidas-sponsored schools.

During closing arguments in a federal criminal case in New York in October, an attorney for former Adidas executive James Gatto told a jury that his client approved a $20,000 payment to current Kansas player Silvio De Sousa's guardian only after Self and Jayhawks assistant Kurtis Townsend requested the payment through Gassnola.


"The evidence, I submit, shows that Kansas' head coach knew of and asked for a payment to be made to Silvio De Sousa's handler," attorney Michael Schachter told the jury. "More than that, Coach Self requested just the kind of help that Mr. Gassnola arranged as a condition for Coach Self to permit Adidas to continue their sponsorship agreement with the University of Kansas."

Gatto, former Adidas consultant Merl Code and aspiring business manager Christian Dawkins were found guilty on felony charges of wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud.

Gatto, Code and Dawkins were accused of paying money from Adidas to the families of recruits to ensure they signed with Adidas-sponsored schools, and then with the sneaker company and certain financial planners and agents once they turned pro.

Gatto was accused of working with Gassnola to facilitate $90,000 from Adidas to former Jayhawks recruit Billy Preston's mother and agreeing to pay $20,000 to Fenny Falmagne, De Sousa's guardian, to help him "get out from under" a pay-for-play scheme to attend Maryland, which is sponsored by Under Armour.

On Sept. 19, 2017, three days before Kansas announced the contract extension with Adidas, Gassnola texted Self and thanked him for helping the sponsorship deal get done.
Self responded: "I'm happy with Adidas. Just got to get a couple real guys."

Gassnola replied: "In my mind, it's KU, bill self. Everyone else fall into line. Too [expletive] bad. That's what's right for Adidas basketball. And I know I am RIGHT. The more you win, have lottery pics [sic] and you happy. That's how it should work in my mind." Self responded: "That's how ur works. At UNC and Duke." Gassnola replied at Kentucky as well.

"I promise you I got this," Gassnola wrote. "I have never let you down. Except Dyondre lol. We will get it right."
When Schachter, asked Gassnola if "Dyondre" was a reference to former Arizona player Deandre Ayton, Gassnola replied, "It is."

Gassnola, a former youth basketball director from Springfield, Massachusetts, pleaded guilty in April 2018 to conspiracy to commit wire fraud for his role in the alleged pay-for-play schemes. He testified during the October trial as part of his cooperation agreement with federal prosecutors.

During testimony at the trial, text messages between Gassnola, Self and Townsend presented by defense attorneys indicated the coaches were at least aware of Gassnola's involvement in the Jayhawks' recruitment of De Sousa, a native of Angola.

On Aug. 9, 2017, Townsend texted Gassnola and wrote, "Coach Self just talked to Fenny let me know how it goes."
A few hours later, Gassnola texted Self: "Hall of Fame. When you have 5 minutes and your [sic] alone call me."
Later that night, after Self hadn't responded, Gassnola texted him again: "I talked with Fenny."
"We good?" Self asked.
"Always," Gassnola replied. "That's [sic] was light work. Ball is in his court now."

According to cellphone records introduced into evidence, Gassnola and Self had a 5-minute, 6-second phone call later that night. Gassnola testified that he didn't recall what the men talked about. His phone was not being monitored via FBI wiretaps at the time.

"Coach Self and Coach Townsend asked for Adidas' help in making this payment to Fenny," Schachter told the jury in October. "And then Coach Self wanted to know if Adidas told Fenny that the payment would be made, and then the ball is in his court."

On Aug. 26, 2017, Townsend forwarded Gassnola a text message that he said he'd received from Falmagne: "Coach has been on the phone with Angola. We are good to go. We will commit tomorrow."
De Sousa, who attended IMG Academy, committed to Kansas four days later. Self called Gatto the next day, but their conversation wasn't recorded by FBI wiretaps because of a technical issue, according to federal prosecutors.

The NCAA suspended De Sousa for two seasons; he won an appeal and is eligible to play in 2019-20.
Also during the October trial, one of Code's attorneys, Mark Moore, attempted to introduce wiretap recordings, in which Code and Townsend discussed what it would take for top recruit Zion Williamson to sign with the Jayhawks. Williamson played one season at Duke and was the No. 1 pick by the New Orleans Pelicans in June's NBA draft.

According to a transcript of the call, which Moore read in court, Townsend told Code, "Hey, but between me and you, you know, [Williamson's stepfather Lee Anderson] asked about some stuff. You know? And I said, 'Well, we'll talk about that after you decide.'
"And then Mr. Code says: 'I know what he's asking for,'" Moore continued. "... 'He's asking for opportunities from an occupational prospective. He's asking for money in the pocket. And he's asking for housing for him and the family.'

"And they go on to talk. And Mr. Townsend says: 'So I've got to just try to work and figure out a way. Because if that's what it takes to get him for 10 months, we're going to have to do it some way.'"

Kansas would be the second school to receive an NCAA notice of allegations in the wake of the federal government's investigation into bribes and other corruption in college basketball. In July, the NCAA charged NC State with two Level I violations, including a failure-to-monitor charge against former coach Mark Gottfried, who has since been hired at Cal State Northridge.

Former Wolfpack assistant Orlando Early also is accused of helping facilitate a $40,000 payment from Gassnola to former NC State star player Dennis Smith Jr.'s family in October 2015.
Sources have told ESPN that the NCAA is actively investigating Arizona, Auburn, Creighton, Louisville, LSU and USC.




Bear89
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To the OP's question - No. I don't believe they'll face sanctions for what they've done. Blue Bloods never do.
True Grit
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Double secret probation
DanaDane
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Will Kansas get sanctioned? The only reason the NCAA even brought anything forward it is because the facts came out in a criminal trial, forcing the NCAA to do something to keep from ending up with egg on its face. Otherwise, they would have done what they've done for years with KU's dirty program -- sweep it under the rug and pretend it didn't happen.
Osodecentx
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Bear89 said:

To the OP's question - No. I don't believe they'll face sanctions for what they've done. Blue Bloods never do.
agreed, unless their regents groan and cry out to God
Fozzie
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if the NCAA doesn't hammer these rogue programs that have clear evidence of paying or trying to pay players, then it might as well be a complete free for all and just encourage every program to blatantly ignore NCAA rules.

Kansas
Oregon
Louisville
TCU
Arizona
South Carolina
LSU
Alabama
Creighton
Maryland

all of these schools have evidence on federal wire taps and in court of paying or trying to pay athletes

Of all those schools mentioned LSU, Kansas and Arizona seem to be the most egregious.
CTWallace
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I had a dream and in it Kansas was hit hard.
Michibear
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CTWallace said:

I had a dream and in it Kansas was hit hard.
EatMoreSalmon
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Michibear said:

CTWallace said:

I had a dream and in it Kansas was hit hard.

Maybe the NCAA won't turn out to be the Lollipop Guild in this matter.
Aliceinbubbleland
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Jeremy
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Aliceinbubbleland said:




So does anything that came out today move the needle towards there is a possibility of anything other than a stern letter or a hand slap?
RegentCoverup
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We won't know until it's over.

Really it's just a crap negotiation game. But here is the potential kicker. That FBI wiretap has what I think is smoking gun evidence.

Is he guilty in your mind? He sure as hell is in mine.

It will take some creative leniency on this one.
Jeremy
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Oh he is guilty as guilty can be. The NCAA hasn't shown as of yet the willingness to hammer a blue blood program. There will be lots of lawyers involved. Self has already denied any wrongdoing and dug his heels in. Will KU sacrifice him to save themselves?

TellMeYouLoveMe said:

We won't know until it's over.

Really it's just a crap negotiation game. But here is the potential kicker. That FBI wiretap has what I think is smoking gun evidence.

Is he guilty in your mind? Her sure as hell is in mine.

It will take some creative leniency on this one.
Hotsauce
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Will the Big 12 withhold their cut if the pie?
Osodecentx
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Hotsauce said:

Will the Big 12 withhold their cut if the pie?
Is there a porn guy or a preacher on their BOR?
PartyBear
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Aliceinbubbleland said:


I kind of see this as well. The NCAA would not set themselves up by putting all this out there just to back down. I mean this is not the NCAA stating, we have received allegations from X that you have committed Y please respond by the date of Z. This is the NCAA making the charge correct?
BaylorOkie
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I'm skeptical. I remember when the FBI arrests were made and how much the media reacted and told us what a huge deal it was. But I see nothing really has come from that. So I'll wait and see.
PartyBear
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Isn't this what is coming from that for Kansas? I bet the other schools can expect something as well.
gobears20
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LIB,MR BEARS
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One would certainly think that recruiting will take a major hit this year for KU
vanillabryce
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JXL
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I'd be shocked if Kansas gets hit hard.
Fozzie
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JXL said:

I'd be shocked if Kansas gets hit hard.
prepare to be shocked. Might not be this year but the hammer is coming and Self knows it
RegentCoverup
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And I'm not worried about timing or speed on this one.

The fear of the unknown is worse than the penalty itself. They will have a heck of a time convincing people that they're safe until the NCAA wraps this one up and it's all done.
Buforlife
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Kansas will get the same quality penalties North Carolina got.
Ashley Hodge
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Buforlife said:

Kansas will get the same quality penalties North Carolina got.
different situation completely. The NCAA had little jurisdiction over the North Carolina situation just like they have very little jurisdiction over Baylor's issues. That is why the primary tactic of the NCAA to "punish" programs in that situation is to drag out the case and create a cloud of uncertainty for a long time. Kansas threw a fat pitch down the middle for NCAA enforcement of rules.
namanjohnson101
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HELLO,

I'm not convinced. Look at UNC's second notice of allegations from the NCAA -- it was pretty tame. And then the SEC commissioner, Greg Sankey, inserted himself and decided he was going to try his darnedest to get UNC punished and re-wrote the NOA.

UNC's third NOA was much harsher than the second. I think Sankey was determined to see UNC get punished, but ultimately the facts simply didn't support the allegations. But it wasn't for lack of trying by Sankey and the NCAA. The fact the UNC helps generate a lot of revenue didn't change that. 9apps cartoon hd

REGARDS
OsoCoreyell
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namanjohnson101 said:

HELLO,

I'm not convinced. Look at UNC's second notice of allegations from the NCAA -- it was pretty tame. And then the SEC commissioner, Greg Sankey, inserted himself and decided he was going to try his darnedest to get UNC punished and re-wrote the NOA.

UNC's third NOA was much harsher than the second. I think Sankey was determined to see UNC get punished, but ultimately the facts simply didn't support the allegations. But it wasn't for lack of trying by Sankey and the NCAA. The fact the UNC helps generate a lot of revenue didn't change that.

REGARDS
Also, it was really important that the 2 cross-dressing men in North Carolina be able to use the women's restroom at college sports events in North Carolina (to the extent a "family" bathroom wasn't available.
RegentCoverup
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I'm starting to have less faith as well.

Justice that is not swift, is typically ineffective.
bexar country
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Baylor will get one year probation for Kansas violations.
xiledinok
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When it comes to sentencing, the federal judges look at this as business as usual in college basketball.
CTWallace
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vanillabryce said:


If I were still at Baylor, I'd write an entire Sing act around this video...
roundcubethree
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NCAA enforcement disagreed, saying in the NOA that the infractions panel that will decide the case "could" issue a show-cause order against Self and Townsend. shareit vidmate app

BearFan33
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I think we just won some recruiting battles vs KU right? Maybe the recruits suspect something bad is coming for KU as well.
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