Above average! That's all we should expect for our men's hoops program.

Most of these posts are from 2017. If it were this year it would be incredibly stupid. From four years ago it just sounds like a pathetic troll.

Hambone said:

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The X Factor said:

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Above average! That's all we should expect for our men's hoops program.

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Baylor basketball this decade:

averaging nearly 25 wins a season (198 in last 8 seasons)

6 tourney bids, 1 NIT title

4 Sweet 16s

2 Elite 8s

2nd most regular season Big 12 wins, ahead of ISU/KSU

we are one of the best 15 programs in the nation. that is strange way to define "above average"

we may only be an "above average" Big 12 team, but the Big 12 just so happens to be the #1 KenPom league 4 years running... on a national scale, we are arguably approaching new blue blood status.

you are intellectually dishonest because you personally dislike Drew. your agenda is stale and not rooted in reality, but personal bias.

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Thank you.

Thanks, Hambone. That sort of breakdown is valuable and I suggest that you just put it on hold. The doubt about Drew should have been put to rest long ago, and completely deflated after last April, but the folks with an agenda of some kind probably will not be persuaded.

It is interesting that Drew has grown (as has Tang and the rest of his staff) over the years, both steadily and with occasional leaps, yet his critics do not seem to be willing to grow with him. That is a shame, because they are missing out on one of the outstanding ascendant coaching careers in the history of college basketball.

So true. At least Drew's critics are a lot easier to ignore now!

setshot said:

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Thanks, Hambone. That sort of breakdown is valuable and I suggest that you just put it on hold. The doubt about Drew should have been put to rest long ago, and completely deflated after last April, but the folks with an agenda of some kind probably will not be persuaded.

It is interesting that Drew has grown (as has Tang and the rest of his staff) over the years, both steadily and with occasional leaps, yet his critics do not seem to be willing to grow with him. That is a shame, because they are missing out on one of the outstanding ascendant coaching careers in the history of college basketball.

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Y'all realize that post is almost 5 years old right? Facts are facts but it needs some updating

Hambone still checks this site from time to time, and I would imagine that he has already updated this posting.
Nothing has changed about its essence.

I can appreciate the doubt. I also wondered whether Drew could take us all the way to the promised land. Typically, schools like Baylor don't get there, even with their best teams, even if the are competitive every year in their league. And Drew didn't exactly come from a blue blood.

You can frame this as "doubters are stupid," or you can frame it as we are incredibly lucky that the perfect combination of players, coaches, and circumstances came together, for us to do something most schools only dream about.

After near 15 years of Drew success, it would be hard to Imagine people doubting Drew. Once he got to full strength, he's with very rare exception been at least top 25, if not elite.

Some may complain about the hair they see on Sofia Vergara's lip though

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Hambone still checks this site from time to time, and I would imagine that he has already updated this posting.
Nothing has changed about its essence.

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For sure. Ensuring those reading didn't miss that there's so many amazing things to add from the last 5 years.

So true. Just in the past 2 years, amazing records & accomplishments:
- 23 game winning streak, greatest in Big 12 history
- first ever win in Allen Field House, & a dominant one
- #1 in the nation for 5 weeks in a row, a program record
- starting 18-0, a program record ??
- ranked in the top 3 all season in 2020-21
- first ever Big 12 title, first conference title since 1950
- first ever consensus All-American in Jared Butler
- Mitchell sweeping defensive PoY honors
- first ever #1 seed in NCAA tournament
- first Final Four appearance since 1950
- first National Championship, dominating Gonzaga

I'm sure I missed some items but still an impressive list: better than anyone else in the conference or the state.