What is actually in Texas Voter Bill!

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Waco1947
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What are its provisions for improving integrity?? What are its provisions for ease of voter access?
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Porteroso
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There is a pdf of it. I believe it's SB1, here.

https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/871/billtext/pdf/SB00001I.pdf
Wangchung
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Probably a bunch of racist requirements like showing an ID to vote, only allowing voters to vote once, not mailing out unrequested ballots, purging voter rolls of the dead and moved. You know, real systemic racism stuff.
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I guess I had time to waste, so here are the changes I saw.

Several voting integrity changes- quarterly voter eligibility reviews, gives election officials the ability to cross reference voters with department of transportation records, and the department if public safety records.

Strict requirements to report any vote deemed ineligible to the Attorney General and state secretary.

For practical purposes, the ban of drive through voting, and the requirement that in person voting must take place in a permanent structure.

Vote tabulating equipment must not have wireless capability.

Slightly increased voting hours. (minimum of 8 went to 9 during early voting for larger counties) Also, anyone in line at the time of closing must be allowed to vote.

Voting systems must not allow all of a political party's candidates to be selected with 1 motion.

Cou ties of more than 100,000 voters must implement video surveillance systems that capture the entire voting process, and must be livestreamed to the public.

Some expansions of election watcher rights. Specifies they must be allowed close enough to see and hear election officials.

Makes communication between election officials and voting system vendors public information.

Some updated computer requirements for voting systems, designed to increase security.

The early voting clerk may not solicit mail in ballots, and no other state official may distribute mail in applications to people who did not request one. But it seems anyone else could? Also some stricter and more standardized requirements for the mail in ballot. Also stricter requirements for the mail carrier transporting them.

Allows the voter to use an expired ID, if otherwise valid, for the mail in ballot identification, or in person voting.

In the mail in process, no record linking an individual voter to a ballot may be created.

For mail in ballots with a defect, the state must inform the voter by mail if timely, or notify the voter either by phone or email that they need to vote in person.

Some protection against officials denying a mail in ballot because of illegible signature- if the voter provides valid voter identification on the mail in ballot, the state must presume the signature is their signature.

Mail in ballot records must be kept separate from in person. Also mail in ballots must be scanned for record keeping.

Anyone providing assistance/transportation to more than 3 voters unrelated to them has to fill out a form identifying them, stating what compensation they received, etc.

Oaths taken by poll workers expanded.

I might not be reading this correctly, but employers can be charged with a felony if they deny an employee time off to vote, either during early voting, or the general.

Some voter harvesting sections, felony 3rd degree. It's what you'd expect, you can't provide any type of compensation, favor, for a vote to a party/candidate.

Some stricter requirements that local governments correcting violations reported to them by the attorney general, and fines for those who don't.

Courts must prioritize injunctions over anything other than death penalty cases, due to it being time sensitive during the election.

Edit: this was just SB1, I was going to see about other changes but it took long enough. I assume there were more.
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Waco1947 said:

What are its provisions for improving integrity?? What are its provisions for ease of voter access?


Seems like a great research project. Let us know what you find.
Guy Noir
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The issue of whether the State provides a secure vote versus limiting voter access is such a hot topic.

I do not see any unreasonable limitations of voter access. With the allegations of voter impropriety in the 2020 election it is important the state provide assurances of vote integrity.

The voter does need to take some responsibility to get their vote cast.
Waco1947
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Wangchung said:

Probably a bunch of racist requirements like showing an ID to vote, only allowing voters to vote once, not mailing out unrequested ballots, purging voter rolls of the dead and moved. You know, real systemic racism stuff.
What's in it before we make comments?
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Wangchung
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Waco1947 said:

Wangchung said:

Probably a bunch of racist requirements like showing an ID to vote, only allowing voters to vote once, not mailing out unrequested ballots, purging voter rolls of the dead and moved. You know, real systemic racism stuff.
What's in it before we make comments?
Just a bunch of systemic racism hiding behind every corner!
4th and Inches
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The one thing they should do is make that tuesday a national holiday so people can understand the importance and get time to go.
“Mix a little foolishness with your serious plans. It is lovely to be silly at the right moment.”

–Horace


“Insomnia sharpens your math skills because you spend all night calculating how much sleep you’ll get if you’re able to ‘fall asleep right now.’ “
cowboycwr
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4th and Inches said:

The one thing they should do is make that tuesday a national holiday so people can understand the importance and get time to go.
The only problem is then the dems/libs would cry racism because there isn't free child care available for the poor on election day.

Or free transportation.

Or some other excuse....
Harrison Bergeron
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The fake outrage about these laws is just another example of authoritarian disinformation. This law simply outlaws the 2020 shenanigans are returns us to pre-2020 with slightly more options to vote early compared to 2019.
Waco1947
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cowboycwr said:

4th and Inches said:

The one thing they should do is make that tuesday a national holiday so people can understand the importance and get time to go.
The only problem is then the dems/libs would cry racism because there isn't free child care available for the poor on election day.

Or free transportation.

Or some other excuse....
Yes we would. What's wrong with it?
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Waco1947
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Harrison Bergeron said:

The fake outrage about these laws is just another example of authoritarian disinformation. This law simply outlaws the 2020 shenanigans are returns us to pre-2020 with slightly more options to vote early compared to 2019.
Who is the authoritarian?
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4th and Inches
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Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

4th and Inches said:

The one thing they should do is make that tuesday a national holiday so people can understand the importance and get time to go.
The only problem is then the dems/libs would cry racism because there isn't free child care available for the poor on election day.

Or free transportation.

Or some other excuse....
Yes we would. What's wrong with it?
nothing wrong with free transport if your citizens voted for it and are paying for it.

Nothing wrong with free child care if your citizens voted for it and are paying for it.

These are local decisions not federal decisions. Maybe you could open up the church and staff with Volunteers to watch the kids and use the church van to carry people to voting sites.
“Mix a little foolishness with your serious plans. It is lovely to be silly at the right moment.”

–Horace


“Insomnia sharpens your math skills because you spend all night calculating how much sleep you’ll get if you’re able to ‘fall asleep right now.’ “
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Wangchung said:

Waco1947 said:

Wangchung said:

Probably a bunch of racist requirements like showing an ID to vote, only allowing voters to vote once, not mailing out unrequested ballots, purging voter rolls of the dead and moved. You know, real systemic racism stuff.
What's in it before we make comments?
Just a bunch of systemic racism hiding behind every corner!


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Allows the voter to use an expired ID, if otherwise valid, for the mail in ballot identification, or in person voting.

Oh my, look the voter suppression being supported here.

That's what the national news and national politicians keep telling us anyway.

Looks like the only votes being suppressed are fraudulent votes. Mail in applications with no ID or signature requirement is simply inviting fraud. Having safeguards in order is a good thing.

Those that don't want these safeguards likely want to be able to harvest ballots out of otherwise invalid applications. It's that simple really.

Wangchung
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Forest Bueller_bf said:

Wangchung said:

Waco1947 said:

Wangchung said:

Probably a bunch of racist requirements like showing an ID to vote, only allowing voters to vote once, not mailing out unrequested ballots, purging voter rolls of the dead and moved. You know, real systemic racism stuff.
What's in it before we make comments?
Just a bunch of systemic racism hiding behind every corner!


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Allows the voter to use an expired ID, if otherwise valid, for the mail in ballot identification, or in person voting.

Oh my, look the voter suppression being supported here.

That's what the national news and national politicians keep telling us anyway.

Looks like the only votes being suppressed are fraudulent votes. Mail in applications with no ID or signature requirement is simply inviting fraud. Having safeguards in order is a good thing.

Those that don't want these safeguards likely want to be able to harvest ballots out of otherwise invalid applications. It's that simple really.


Fair elections is systemic racism. ANYTHING that doesn't give more power to democrats is systemic racism.
Harrison Bergeron
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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

The fake outrage about these laws is just another example of authoritarian disinformation. This law simply outlaws the 2020 shenanigans are returns us to pre-2020 with slightly more options to vote early compared to 2019.
Who is the authoritarian?
Generally speaking any person or institution that seeks to consolidate power and limit freedoms and all the accoutrements that come with it, particularly propaganda and disinformation.
Harrison Bergeron
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I've asked before on myriad forums ... give me the name of one person that was legally registered to vote and was denied the opportunity to vote.
cowboycwr
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Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

4th and Inches said:

The one thing they should do is make that tuesday a national holiday so people can understand the importance and get time to go.
The only problem is then the dems/libs would cry racism because there isn't free child care available for the poor on election day.

Or free transportation.

Or some other excuse....
Yes we would. What's wrong with it?
Because neither of those are government functions but rather individual responsibilities.

And you proved my point. The dems/libs are the most racist people out there. They think only minorities are poor.
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4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

4th and Inches said:

The one thing they should do is make that tuesday a national holiday so people can understand the importance and get time to go.
The only problem is then the dems/libs would cry racism because there isn't free child care available for the poor on election day.

Or free transportation.

Or some other excuse....
Yes we would. What's wrong with it?
nothing wrong with free transport if your citizens voted for it and are paying for it.

Nothing wrong with free child care if your citizens voted for it and are paying for it.

These are local decisions not federal decisions. Maybe you could open up the church and staff with Volunteers to watch the kids and use the church van to carry people to voting sites.
Then where would the atheists and heathens take their offspring?
The battle is not yours, but God's.
2 Chronicles 20:15
Whiskey Pete
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cowboycwr said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

4th and Inches said:

The one thing they should do is make that tuesday a national holiday so people can understand the importance and get time to go.
The only problem is then the dems/libs would cry racism because there isn't free child care available for the poor on election day.

Or free transportation.

Or some other excuse....
Yes we would. What's wrong with it?
Because neither of those are government functions but rather individual responsibilities.

And you proved my point. The dems/libs are the most racist people out there. They think only minorities are poor.
I'll add that the white leftists think that black people can't ever get ahead unless they help them, that they can't succeed on their own. Because you know, they're black.
Harrison Bergeron
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Can anyone give me the name of a person legally registered but denied the right to vote?
Waco1947
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4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

cowboycwr said:

4th and Inches said:

The one thing they should do is make that tuesday a national holiday so people can understand the importance and get time to go.
The only problem is then the dems/libs would cry racism because there isn't free child care available for the poor on election day.

Or free transportation.

Or some other excuse....
Yes we would. What's wrong with it?
nothing wrong with free transport if your citizens voted for it and are paying for it.

Nothing wrong with free child care if your citizens voted for it and are paying for it.

These are local decisions not federal decisions. Maybe you could open up the church and staff with Volunteers to watch the kids and use the church van to carry people to voting sites.
Several good ideas here. Thank you
Waco1947
Harrison Bergeron
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Anybody found a legally registered person who was unable to vote?
Waco1947
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Anybody find massive fraud?
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4th and Inches
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Waco1947 said:

Anybody find massive fraud?
GA sec of State currently has an open ballot harvesting investigation.

Remember it is hard to prove something when your opponent controls the information/evidence.

GA clearly had Malfeasance based on the destruction of evidence as documented under oath. Their response was "nobody told us to stop." No election officials, no state officials, no law enforcement officials stepped in to stop them. there is no dispute that they destroyed evidence, they admitted it. What we dont know is if that evidence would have proved fraud.. if everything was good, why destroy it?
“Mix a little foolishness with your serious plans. It is lovely to be silly at the right moment.”

–Horace


“Insomnia sharpens your math skills because you spend all night calculating how much sleep you’ll get if you’re able to ‘fall asleep right now.’ “
Harrison Bergeron
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Can anyone name a single person legally registered prevented from voting?
Whiskey Pete
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Can anyone name a single person legally registered prevented from voting?
Even my Grandmother wasn't prevented from voting. God rest her soul.
Waco1947
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4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Anybody find massive fraud?
GA sec of State currently has an open ballot harvesting investigation.

Remember it is hard to prove something when your opponent controls the information/evidence.

GA clearly had Malfeasance based on the destruction of evidence as documented under oath. Their response was "nobody told us to stop." No election officials, no state officials, no law enforcement officials stepped in to stop them. there is no dispute that they destroyed evidence, they admitted it. What we dont know is if that evidence would have proved fraud.. if everything was good, why destroy it?
Under oath is meaningless until their evidence proves out. Can you those in charge
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Wangchung
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Waco1947 said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Anybody find massive fraud?
GA sec of State currently has an open ballot harvesting investigation.

Remember it is hard to prove something when your opponent controls the information/evidence.

GA clearly had Malfeasance based on the destruction of evidence as documented under oath. Their response was "nobody told us to stop." No election officials, no state officials, no law enforcement officials stepped in to stop them. there is no dispute that they destroyed evidence, they admitted it. What we dont know is if that evidence would have proved fraud.. if everything was good, why destroy it?
Under oath is meaningless until their evidence proves out.
Tell me you're a democrat without telling me you're a democrat.
4th and Inches
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Waco1947 said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Anybody find massive fraud?
GA sec of State currently has an open ballot harvesting investigation.

Remember it is hard to prove something when your opponent controls the information/evidence.

GA clearly had Malfeasance based on the destruction of evidence as documented under oath. Their response was "nobody told us to stop." No election officials, no state officials, no law enforcement officials stepped in to stop them. there is no dispute that they destroyed evidence, they admitted it. What we dont know is if that evidence would have proved fraud.. if everything was good, why destroy it?
Under oath is meaningless until their evidence proves out. Can you those in charge
witness testimony is evidence.. guessing you have never been part of a real trial.
“Mix a little foolishness with your serious plans. It is lovely to be silly at the right moment.”

–Horace


“Insomnia sharpens your math skills because you spend all night calculating how much sleep you’ll get if you’re able to ‘fall asleep right now.’ “
Harrison Bergeron
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Bueller? Bueller? Anyone find a single person legally registered but denied the ability to vote?
Jack Bauer
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Many people around the world would love the inconvenience of standing in line or having to provide an ID to vote...



Waco1947
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Jack Bauer said:

Many people around the world would love the inconvenience of standing in line or having to provide an ID to vote...




They are not Americans.
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4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Anybody find massive fraud?
GA sec of State currently has an open ballot harvesting investigation.

Remember it is hard to prove something when your opponent controls the information/evidence.

GA clearly had Malfeasance based on the destruction of evidence as documented under oath. Their response was "nobody told us to stop." No election officials, no state officials, no law enforcement officials stepped in to stop them. there is no dispute that they destroyed evidence, they admitted it. What we dont know is if that evidence would have proved fraud.. if everything was good, why destroy it?
Under oath is meaningless until their evidence proves out. Can you those in charge
witness testimony is evidence.. guessing you have never been part of a real trial.
Their oaths went no where in the courts. . Others are indeed a real thing in courts but the oaths did not make it to court. All courts denied the plaintiffs claims even the Supremes
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