More of a priority than investigating why the Saudi's gave Jared $2,000,000,000.00 to manage?
Yes or no.
Yes or no.
You may not deserve much but I do!RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
People get the government they deserve. This thread and its cheerleaders are proof positive that we don't deserve much.
Well, we may be on the same page because I feel that the rioters, arsonists, assaulters, murderers and vandals should be investigated as rigorously as the idiots that went into the capital building.Booray said:
I said nothing about stopping the Hunter Biden investigation.
I am pointing out that the Kushner situation is much, much more alarming. Kushner actually worked at the White House where is portfolio included Mid-East policy. Our policy under Jared and his Father-in-law was incredibly generous to the Saudis. The Saudis then make a huge investment despite their own admission that Jared does not appear to have the expertise to be a fund manager. At the same time, the Saudis appear to be working to undermine the current administration.
If one is concerned about Hunter Biden's ethics and their potential impact on American policy, one should be more concerned about this deal, full stop and without deflection.
The current administration appears to be doing a fine job of this on its own, without any help from the Saudis.Booray said:
At the same time, the Saudis appear to be working to undermine the current administration.
whitetrash said:The current administration appears to be doing a fine job of this on its own, without any help from the Saudis.Booray said:
At the same time, the Saudis appear to be working to undermine the current administration.
No it's not.Booray said:
I said nothing about stopping the Hunter Biden investigation.
I am pointing out that the Kushner situation is much, much more alarming. Kushner actually worked at the White House where is portfolio included Mid-East policy. Our policy under Jared and his Father-in-law was incredibly generous to the Saudis. The Saudis then make a huge investment despite their own admission that Jared does not appear to have the expertise to be a fund manager. At the same time, the Saudis appear to be working to undermine the current administration.
If one is concerned about Hunter Biden's ethics and their potential impact on American policy, one should be more concerned about this deal, full stop and without deflection.
Booray said:
More of a priority than investigating why the Saudi's gave Jared $2,000,000,000.00 to manage?
Yes or no.
riflebear said:Booray said:
More of a priority than investigating why the Saudi's gave Jared $2,000,000,000.00 to manage?
Yes or no.
Go research how many hours the Trump kids had to spend in front of investigators for the bogus made up taxpayer waisted Russia collusion hoax. I'm not defending them but quit doing Dem tactics 101 and trying to deflect from the Biden crime family investigation.
What up Dog? Where have you been?Thee University said:You may not deserve much but I do!RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
People get the government they deserve. This thread and its cheerleaders are proof positive that we don't deserve much.
Your apples will never be oranges.Booray said:
What a bunch of hypocrisy.
Investigate Hunter Biden until the cows come home. But do the same to Jared Kushner. The idea that we should look away from $2,000,000,000.00 in assets going to Kushner's control from a country he personally protected for four years in an official role is just ridiculous. It is graft on the largest scale ever..
IIRC, Hunter's control of funds was in billions as well. What he received directly was in millions.Booray said:
What a bunch of hypocrisy.
Investigate Hunter Biden until the cows come home. But do the same to Jared Kushner. The idea that we should look away from $2,000,000,000.00 in assets going to Kushner's control from a country he personally protected for four years in an official role is just ridiculous. It is graft on the largest scale ever..
HuMcK said:riflebear said:Booray said:
More of a priority than investigating why the Saudi's gave Jared $2,000,000,000.00 to manage?
Yes or no.
Go research how many hours the Trump kids had to spend in front of investigators for the bogus made up taxpayer waisted Russia collusion hoax. I'm not defending them but quit doing Dem tactics 101 and trying to deflect from the Biden crime family investigation.
The answer is none. No one with the last name Trump or Kushner was ever interviewed or questioned in person by Mueller's kid-gloves investigation (or any other one, so far).
You are 100% correct there, because Kushner sold himself while he and his father-in-law were in office and Hunter sold himself while he and his father were private citizens,Wangchung said:Your apples will never be oranges.Booray said:
What a bunch of hypocrisy.
Investigate Hunter Biden until the cows come home. But do the same to Jared Kushner. The idea that we should look away from $2,000,000,000.00 in assets going to Kushner's control from a country he personally protected for four years in an official role is just ridiculous. It is graft on the largest scale ever..
Common ground.EatMoreSalmon said:IIRC, Hunter's control of funds was in billions as well. What he received directly was in millions.Booray said:
What a bunch of hypocrisy.
Investigate Hunter Biden until the cows come home. But do the same to Jared Kushner. The idea that we should look away from $2,000,000,000.00 in assets going to Kushner's control from a country he personally protected for four years in an official role is just ridiculous. It is graft on the largest scale ever..
It's a tough deal to dictate what a former official does after leaving office. Quick access to cushy employment or financial deals is shady, but how do you keep someone from being hired based on their past resume? Limit the financial gain? Place a "no deals" time period after office? I'm not sure what that would look like, but it would be a lot safer if our officials were not getting quid pro quo deals after leaving office.
Now as to using family members to skirt rules of Congress and US law for selling influence while in office, that needs to have a high burden of proof (such as setting up meetings with US officials the family member would have no other reason to have access to, large payments to the Congress member) in order to avoid a "family member" penalty on normal business dealings.
Kushner deserves pushback on his deal for the optics and potential for quid pro quo. He should have to answer some questions about the deal whether it is deemed legal or not. If it potentially breaks US law, then it needs investigation.
Hunter deserves the investigation he is getting if he truly skirted tax laws on his received gifts and funds. He and Joe Biden deserve investigation if it is apparent that Hunter sold his dad's influence and Joe benefitted from that.
I'd rather see these kinds of issues hit a courtroom rather than the floor of the Congress. Congress will just turn this kind of investigation into a public circus. It's a shame so many of our fellow Americans buy into the Congressional investigation dog and pony show.
A Senator is a private citizen and not a public servant?Booray said:You are 100% correct there, because Kushner sold himself while he and his father-in-law were in office and Hunter sold himself while he and his father were private citizens,Wangchung said:Your apples will never be oranges.Booray said:
What a bunch of hypocrisy.
Investigate Hunter Biden until the cows come home. But do the same to Jared Kushner. The idea that we should look away from $2,000,000,000.00 in assets going to Kushner's control from a country he personally protected for four years in an official role is just ridiculous. It is graft on the largest scale ever..
Agreed. The first sentence in this thread implying one is more of a priority than the other is what may have detailed this thread from the start. With that said, they should both be a high priority. But don't fret, I would imagine that anything implicating the prior administration will be a high-priority for the current administration. I think the reason a lot of people bring up the Hunter Biden situation is because a) Biden is currently president and b) the Biden administration is unlikely to launch an investigation into another Biden.Booray said:
I said nothing about stopping the Hunter Biden investigation.
I am pointing out that the Kushner situation is much, much more alarming. Kushner actually worked at the White House where is portfolio included Mid-East policy. Our policy under Jared and his Father-in-law was incredibly generous to the Saudis. The Saudis then make a huge investment despite their own admission that Jared does not appear to have the expertise to be a fund manager. At the same time, the Saudis appear to be working to undermine the current administration.
If one is concerned about Hunter Biden's ethics and their potential impact on American policy, one should be more concerned about this deal, full stop and without deflection.
Sounds like you pissed that the truth is starting to come out about Old Joe and Hunter.Booray said:You are 100% correct there, because Kushner sold himself while he and his father-in-law were in office and Hunter sold himself while he and his father were private citizens,Wangchung said:Your apples will never be oranges.Booray said:
What a bunch of hypocrisy.
Investigate Hunter Biden until the cows come home. But do the same to Jared Kushner. The idea that we should look away from $2,000,000,000.00 in assets going to Kushner's control from a country he personally protected for four years in an official role is just ridiculous. It is graft on the largest scale ever..
Gold Tron said:A Senator is a private citizen and not a public servant?Booray said:You are 100% correct there, because Kushner sold himself while he and his father-in-law were in office and Hunter sold himself while he and his father were private citizens,Wangchung said:Your apples will never be oranges.Booray said:
What a bunch of hypocrisy.
Investigate Hunter Biden until the cows come home. But do the same to Jared Kushner. The idea that we should look away from $2,000,000,000.00 in assets going to Kushner's control from a country he personally protected for four years in an official role is just ridiculous. It is graft on the largest scale ever..
Wangchung said:
Kushner is easily as qualified as Hunter for the position (sans the crack addiction) and Kushner didn't have anyone threatening to withhold a billion in aid unless a prosecutor was fired in order to protect him.
Rawhide said:Sounds like you pissed that the truth is starting to come out about Old Joe and Hunter.Booray said:You are 100% correct there, because Kushner sold himself while he and his father-in-law were in office and Hunter sold himself while he and his father were private citizens,Wangchung said:Your apples will never be oranges.Booray said:
What a bunch of hypocrisy.
Investigate Hunter Biden until the cows come home. But do the same to Jared Kushner. The idea that we should look away from $2,000,000,000.00 in assets going to Kushner's control from a country he personally protected for four years in an official role is just ridiculous. It is graft on the largest scale ever..
Joe Biden too?Booray said:Rawhide said:Sounds like you pissed that the truth is starting to come out about Old Joe and Hunter.Booray said:You are 100% correct there, because Kushner sold himself while he and his father-in-law were in office and Hunter sold himself while he and his father were private citizens,Wangchung said:Your apples will never be oranges.Booray said:
What a bunch of hypocrisy.
Investigate Hunter Biden until the cows come home. But do the same to Jared Kushner. The idea that we should look away from $2,000,000,000.00 in assets going to Kushner's control from a country he personally protected for four years in an official role is just ridiculous. It is graft on the largest scale ever..
How many times, how many ways do I have to say it?
Hunter Biden should be fully investigated. Can. I be any clearer for you?
I guess he's a private citizen if he's Vice President then?Booray said:Gold Tron said:A Senator is a private citizen and not a public servant?Booray said:You are 100% correct there, because Kushner sold himself while he and his father-in-law were in office and Hunter sold himself while he and his father were private citizens,Wangchung said:Your apples will never be oranges.Booray said:
What a bunch of hypocrisy.
Investigate Hunter Biden until the cows come home. But do the same to Jared Kushner. The idea that we should look away from $2,000,000,000.00 in assets going to Kushner's control from a country he personally protected for four years in an official role is just ridiculous. It is graft on the largest scale ever..
Joe Biden was last a US Senator in 2008.
Rawhide said:Joe Biden too?Booray said:Rawhide said:Sounds like you pissed that the truth is starting to come out about Old Joe and Hunter.Booray said:You are 100% correct there, because Kushner sold himself while he and his father-in-law were in office and Hunter sold himself while he and his father were private citizens,Wangchung said:Your apples will never be oranges.Booray said:
What a bunch of hypocrisy.
Investigate Hunter Biden until the cows come home. But do the same to Jared Kushner. The idea that we should look away from $2,000,000,000.00 in assets going to Kushner's control from a country he personally protected for four years in an official role is just ridiculous. It is graft on the largest scale ever..
How many times, how many ways do I have to say it?
Hunter Biden should be fully investigated. Can. I be any clearer for you?
The media covered up Hunter's laptop and downplayed his financial dealings, along with what appears to be involvement with Joe.Booray said:Common ground.EatMoreSalmon said:IIRC, Hunter's control of funds was in billions as well. What he received directly was in millions.Booray said:
What a bunch of hypocrisy.
Investigate Hunter Biden until the cows come home. But do the same to Jared Kushner. The idea that we should look away from $2,000,000,000.00 in assets going to Kushner's control from a country he personally protected for four years in an official role is just ridiculous. It is graft on the largest scale ever..
It's a tough deal to dictate what a former official does after leaving office. Quick access to cushy employment or financial deals is shady, but how do you keep someone from being hired based on their past resume? Limit the financial gain? Place a "no deals" time period after office? I'm not sure what that would look like, but it would be a lot safer if our officials were not getting quid pro quo deals after leaving office.
Now as to using family members to skirt rules of Congress and US law for selling influence while in office, that needs to have a high burden of proof (such as setting up meetings with US officials the family member would have no other reason to have access to, large payments to the Congress member) in order to avoid a "family member" penalty on normal business dealings.
Kushner deserves pushback on his deal for the optics and potential for quid pro quo. He should have to answer some questions about the deal whether it is deemed legal or not. If it potentially breaks US law, then it needs investigation.
Hunter deserves the investigation he is getting if he truly skirted tax laws on his received gifts and funds. He and Joe Biden deserve investigation if it is apparent that Hunter sold his dad's influence and Joe benefitted from that.
I'd rather see these kinds of issues hit a courtroom rather than the floor of the Congress. Congress will just turn this kind of investigation into a public circus. It's a shame so many of our fellow Americans buy into the Congressional investigation dog and pony show.