school shootings and what may be amiss

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cms186
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JL said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:

This is terrible, no doubt about it. Some common sense things can be done.

1) Schools are too easy to access for the most part. Both my brothers and sisters in laws are or were teachers, my wife was for about 5 years, never once did I go on a campus and even get a second glance.

Yes it is a pain and inconvenience to be more restricted, but accessing a school campus is too easy, this is the first line of defense. It needs to be more difficult to get onto school campuses.


2) The age of gun ownership should be raised to 21. All guns.

3) There should be a short waiting period to access a purchase so a complete background check can be made, including a mental health profile. If there are red flags on the mental health profile, then an in person mental evaluation should be done. The waiting period should be long enough for all these to be completed.

4) Reg flag laws, if a family member knows you are dangerous then they should be able to report this. Authorities need to take them seriously.

5) No private citizen needs a machine gun, or actual automatic rifle. I'm not talking about semi-auto here, there is a world of difference. There should be no loopholes to be able to make a rifle automatic.

Type of gun, beside a true automatic, is being made to be a bigger issue than it is. An AR-15 is just another rifle, there are plenty of semi-auto rifles more powerful. In this case, it's not the gun, but the person with the gun that is the issue.



How about, no.

We're a world away from "shall not be infringed."
Its a shame you dont take the "Well Regulated" part as adamantly as the part you quote
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cms186 said:

JL said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:

This is terrible, no doubt about it. Some common sense things can be done.

1) Schools are too easy to access for the most part. Both my brothers and sisters in laws are or were teachers, my wife was for about 5 years, never once did I go on a campus and even get a second glance.

Yes it is a pain and inconvenience to be more restricted, but accessing a school campus is too easy, this is the first line of defense. It needs to be more difficult to get onto school campuses.


2) The age of gun ownership should be raised to 21. All guns.

3) There should be a short waiting period to access a purchase so a complete background check can be made, including a mental health profile. If there are red flags on the mental health profile, then an in person mental evaluation should be done. The waiting period should be long enough for all these to be completed.

4) Reg flag laws, if a family member knows you are dangerous then they should be able to report this. Authorities need to take them seriously.

5) No private citizen needs a machine gun, or actual automatic rifle. I'm not talking about semi-auto here, there is a world of difference. There should be no loopholes to be able to make a rifle automatic.

Type of gun, beside a true automatic, is being made to be a bigger issue than it is. An AR-15 is just another rifle, there are plenty of semi-auto rifles more powerful. In this case, it's not the gun, but the person with the gun that is the issue.



How about, no.

We're a world away from "shall not be infringed."
Its a shame you dont take the "Well Regulated" part as adamantly as the part you quote
"Well regulated" as in good working order, not government regulation to infringe on that right.

JL
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cms186 said:

JL said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:

This is terrible, no doubt about it. Some common sense things can be done.

1) Schools are too easy to access for the most part. Both my brothers and sisters in laws are or were teachers, my wife was for about 5 years, never once did I go on a campus and even get a second glance.

Yes it is a pain and inconvenience to be more restricted, but accessing a school campus is too easy, this is the first line of defense. It needs to be more difficult to get onto school campuses.


2) The age of gun ownership should be raised to 21. All guns.

3) There should be a short waiting period to access a purchase so a complete background check can be made, including a mental health profile. If there are red flags on the mental health profile, then an in person mental evaluation should be done. The waiting period should be long enough for all these to be completed.

4) Reg flag laws, if a family member knows you are dangerous then they should be able to report this. Authorities need to take them seriously.

5) No private citizen needs a machine gun, or actual automatic rifle. I'm not talking about semi-auto here, there is a world of difference. There should be no loopholes to be able to make a rifle automatic.

Type of gun, beside a true automatic, is being made to be a bigger issue than it is. An AR-15 is just another rifle, there are plenty of semi-auto rifles more powerful. In this case, it's not the gun, but the person with the gun that is the issue.



How about, no.

We're a world away from "shall not be infringed."
Its a shame you dont take the "Well Regulated" part as adamantly as the part you quote
"Finally, the adjective "well-regulated" implies nothing more than the imposition of proper discipline and training. See Johnson 1619 ("Regulate": "To adjust by rule or method"); Rawle 121122; cf. Va. Declaration of Rights 13 (1776), in 7 Thorpe 3812, 3814 (referring to "a wellregulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms")."

- D.C. vs Heller
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Porteroso said:

I'm glad many pointed out that there are in fact not 288 mass shootings at schools so far in 2022.

There are ideas that do not shred the Constitution, do not impact adults' right to own the guns they already have, and still allow the critical band of 18-21 young adults to own guns. Ideas that would have a significant impact for good, make it more difficult to commit mass shootings, and save lives.

But instead we argue about the same 2 or 3 things that are in no danger of being passed anytime soon.
....instead of doing what can be done immediately to protect the kids. Link is what real leadership looks like...raising the money to do what is so obviously necessary instead of engaging in arguments over things quite tangential to the actual problem in order to pursue other political agendas.

https://www.casino.org/news/las-vegas-raiders-give-1m-to-uvalde-school-district-to-fortify-campuses/
 
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