18 year old's with guns / Red Flag laws

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GrowlTowel
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The United States Senate is set to restrict an 18 year old's right to firearms. While I think reasonable minds can disagree with that legislation, it seems clear that as a society we cannot permit persons under the age of 18 from making gender altering decisions. Further, if we are going to have red flag laws that permit the government to seize property, then that law should apply equally to parents that knowingly expose their children to groomers at transsexual story hour, parades, strip shows, and other forms of pornography.

Common sense gun legislation with common sense parenting legislation.

Senator Cornyn, please make it so.
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Doc Holliday
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This decision was made in response to a crime. Apparently our rights depend on the behavior of the guilty and lawless.
Guy Noir
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I believe that we do need to do some things to curb the number of mass shootings. One thing is to reduce the number of guns that are in the hands of young men that have been active in these shooting. I have not seen any other effective solutions that have been presented that have reduced the number of mass shootings.

The red flag laws are a good idea but they have failed in the past. I can understand the stance that the government should not limit gun ownership, but we need to do something.
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Guy Noir said:

The red flag laws are a good idea but they have failed in the past. I can understand the stance that the government should not limit gun ownership, but we need to do something.


Maybe a good first step would be school doors and have competent cops.
ABC BEAR
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So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
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Guy Noir said:

I believe that we do need to do some things to curb the number of mass shootings. One thing is to reduce the number of guns that are in the hands of young men that have been active in these shooting. I have not seen any other effective solutions that have been presented that have reduced the number of mass shootings.

The red flag laws are a good idea but they have failed in the past. I can understand the stance that the government should not limit gun ownership, but we need to do something.


Grow some balls Felicia
nein51
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The bigger win for anyone left of center is the red flag laws not the age.

Red flag laws are bad laws and they set a scary precedent that someone can deem you dangerous and take your property. They are a much, much bigger deal than raising the age to purchase firearms.

I would seriously guess that neither of these appreciably change the outcome.
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Guy Noir said:

I believe that we do need to do some things to curb the number of mass shootings. One thing is to reduce the number of guns that are in the hands of young men that have been active in these shooting. I have not seen any other effective solutions that have been presented that have reduced the number of mass shootings.

The red flag laws are a good idea but they have failed in the past. I can understand the stance that the government should not limit gun ownership, but we need to do something.
yes, as Guy said, "we've got to do something."

This is the biggest plank in the dems platform, do something.
whiterock
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We've got crazy people shooting up schools, so by all means go remove guns from law abiding citizens so we can continue to let murderous nutjobs continue to roam the streets.
br53
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But they can join the military and defend our country with Automatic weapons?
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whiterock said:

We've got crazy people shooting up schools, so by all means go remove guns from law abiding citizens so we can continue to let murderous nutjobs continue to roam the streets.
Exactly, lets do something for mental health, like take em off the street until their meds can be regulated and someone makes sure they take their meds.
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ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
303Bear
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Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
Osodecentx
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303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
303Bear
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Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.

Osodecentx
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303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.
Age to run for Congress
Age to run for US Senate
Age to run for state legislative assemblies
Texas required age 21 to obtain a CHL
Age to purchase alcohol and tobacco products
nein51
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Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
What about the 2A rights of a 12 year old? or a 6 year old? All things considered this is a minimal change.
Osodecentx
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nein51 said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
What about the 2A rights of a 12 year old? or a 6 year old? All things considered this is a minimal change.
I agree. I am arguing that the bill requiring an age of 21 to buy a gun is a good thing,
303Bear
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Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.
Age to run for Congress -Specified in the constitution
Age to run for US Senate - specified in the constitution
Age to run for state legislative assemblies not protected by US constitution, though may be specified by applicable state constitutions and statutes
Texas required age 21 to obtain a CHL - potentially open point (together with limitation on under 21 handgun ownership) based on yesterday's decision
Age to purchase alcohol and tobacco products - asked and answered (see above)
Not sure what point you are trying to make, my initial response was in answer to your inquiry about smokes and alcohol. There are substantial limitations on many activities based on age. The NY decision potentially calls into question whether a tiered system of gun rights is constitutional based on it the pronouncement that the 2nd amendment is not a "second class right", but for now it remains an open question.

Osodecentx
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303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.
Age to run for Congress -Specified in the constitution
Age to run for US Senate - specified in the constitution
Age to run for state legislative assemblies not protected by US constitution, though may be specified by applicable state constitutions and statutes
Texas required age 21 to obtain a CHL - potentially open point (together with limitation on under 21 handgun ownership) based on yesterday's decision
Age to purchase alcohol and tobacco products - asked and answered (see above)
Not sure what point you are trying to make, my initial response was in answer to your inquiry about smokes and alcohol. There are substantial limitations on many activities based on age. The NY decision potentially calls into question whether a tiered system of gun rights is constitutional based on it the pronouncement that the 2nd amendment is not a "second class right", but for now it remains an open question.
We make distinctions based on age all of the time. Restricting gun purchases to those 21 y/o squares with the 2nd A.
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Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.
Age to run for Congress -Specified in the constitution
Age to run for US Senate - specified in the constitution
Age to run for state legislative assemblies not protected by US constitution, though may be specified by applicable state constitutions and statutes
Texas required age 21 to obtain a CHL - potentially open point (together with limitation on under 21 handgun ownership) based on yesterday's decision
Age to purchase alcohol and tobacco products - asked and answered (see above)
Not sure what point you are trying to make, my initial response was in answer to your inquiry about smokes and alcohol. There are substantial limitations on many activities based on age. The NY decision potentially calls into question whether a tiered system of gun rights is constitutional based on it the pronouncement that the 2nd amendment is not a "second class right", but for now it remains an open question.
We make distinctions based on age all of the time. Restricting gun purchases to those 21 y/o squares with the 2nd A.
Perhaps, perhaps not. SCOTUS has never opined on the matter so it remains an open question. Presume the issue will be raised if the age to purchase/own rifles is raised. Also an interesting takings clause question since there are thousands, if not millions of rifles currently owned by 18-20 year olds.
Osodecentx
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303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.
Age to run for Congress -Specified in the constitution
Age to run for US Senate - specified in the constitution
Age to run for state legislative assemblies not protected by US constitution, though may be specified by applicable state constitutions and statutes
Texas required age 21 to obtain a CHL - potentially open point (together with limitation on under 21 handgun ownership) based on yesterday's decision
Age to purchase alcohol and tobacco products - asked and answered (see above)
Not sure what point you are trying to make, my initial response was in answer to your inquiry about smokes and alcohol. There are substantial limitations on many activities based on age. The NY decision potentially calls into question whether a tiered system of gun rights is constitutional based on it the pronouncement that the 2nd amendment is not a "second class right", but for now it remains an open question.
We make distinctions based on age all of the time. Restricting gun purchases to those 21 y/o squares with the 2nd A.
Perhaps, perhaps not. SCOTUS has never opined on the matter so it remains an open question. Presume the issue will be raised if the age to purchase/own rifles is raised. Also an interesting takings clause question since there are thousands, if not millions of rifles currently owned by 18-20 year olds.
I think the issue is the age for purchasing guns, not ownership.
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Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.
Age to run for Congress -Specified in the constitution
Age to run for US Senate - specified in the constitution
Age to run for state legislative assemblies not protected by US constitution, though may be specified by applicable state constitutions and statutes
Texas required age 21 to obtain a CHL - potentially open point (together with limitation on under 21 handgun ownership) based on yesterday's decision
Age to purchase alcohol and tobacco products - asked and answered (see above)
Not sure what point you are trying to make, my initial response was in answer to your inquiry about smokes and alcohol. There are substantial limitations on many activities based on age. The NY decision potentially calls into question whether a tiered system of gun rights is constitutional based on it the pronouncement that the 2nd amendment is not a "second class right", but for now it remains an open question.
We make distinctions based on age all of the time. Restricting gun purchases to those 21 y/o squares with the 2nd A.
Perhaps, perhaps not. SCOTUS has never opined on the matter so it remains an open question. Presume the issue will be raised if the age to purchase/own rifles is raised. Also an interesting takings clause question since there are thousands, if not millions of rifles currently owned by 18-20 year olds.
I think the issue is the age for purchasing guns, not ownership.
How can those practically be disconnected? Seriously doubt any legislation would make such a distinction.
Osodecentx
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303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.
Age to run for Congress -Specified in the constitution
Age to run for US Senate - specified in the constitution
Age to run for state legislative assemblies not protected by US constitution, though may be specified by applicable state constitutions and statutes
Texas required age 21 to obtain a CHL - potentially open point (together with limitation on under 21 handgun ownership) based on yesterday's decision
Age to purchase alcohol and tobacco products - asked and answered (see above)
Not sure what point you are trying to make, my initial response was in answer to your inquiry about smokes and alcohol. There are substantial limitations on many activities based on age. The NY decision potentially calls into question whether a tiered system of gun rights is constitutional based on it the pronouncement that the 2nd amendment is not a "second class right", but for now it remains an open question.
We make distinctions based on age all of the time. Restricting gun purchases to those 21 y/o squares with the 2nd A.
Perhaps, perhaps not. SCOTUS has never opined on the matter so it remains an open question. Presume the issue will be raised if the age to purchase/own rifles is raised. Also an interesting takings clause question since there are thousands, if not millions of rifles currently owned by 18-20 year olds.
I think the issue is the age for purchasing guns, not ownership.
How can those practically be disconnected? Seriously doubt any legislation would make such a distinction.
My 18 y/o can't buy a gun, but he can own one. I give it to him for Christmas.

The Senate law is not much of an imposition.
whiterock
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Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.
Age to run for Congress -Specified in the constitution
Age to run for US Senate - specified in the constitution
Age to run for state legislative assemblies not protected by US constitution, though may be specified by applicable state constitutions and statutes
Texas required age 21 to obtain a CHL - potentially open point (together with limitation on under 21 handgun ownership) based on yesterday's decision
Age to purchase alcohol and tobacco products - asked and answered (see above)
Not sure what point you are trying to make, my initial response was in answer to your inquiry about smokes and alcohol. There are substantial limitations on many activities based on age. The NY decision potentially calls into question whether a tiered system of gun rights is constitutional based on it the pronouncement that the 2nd amendment is not a "second class right", but for now it remains an open question.
We make distinctions based on age all of the time. Restricting gun purchases to those 21 y/o squares with the 2nd A.
Perhaps, perhaps not. SCOTUS has never opined on the matter so it remains an open question. Presume the issue will be raised if the age to purchase/own rifles is raised. Also an interesting takings clause question since there are thousands, if not millions of rifles currently owned by 18-20 year olds.
I think the issue is the age for purchasing guns, not ownership.
How can those practically be disconnected? Seriously doubt any legislation would make such a distinction.
My 18 y/o can't buy a gun, but he can own one. I give it to him for Christmas.

The Senate law is not much of an imposition.

Agreed. The Senate bill was a best case for gun owners under the circumstances. Moreover we can always claw back in future deal making the things we had cede in this one. The next four years will expand opportunities for such.


GrowlTowel
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Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.
Age to run for Congress
Age to run for US Senate
Age to run for state legislative assemblies
Texas required age 21 to obtain a CHL
Age to purchase alcohol and tobacco products


Age to cut your nuts off?
Age to see a flamer dance in flamer gear?
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.
Age to run for Congress -Specified in the constitution
Age to run for US Senate - specified in the constitution
Age to run for state legislative assemblies not protected by US constitution, though may be specified by applicable state constitutions and statutes
Texas required age 21 to obtain a CHL - potentially open point (together with limitation on under 21 handgun ownership) based on yesterday's decision
Age to purchase alcohol and tobacco products - asked and answered (see above)
Not sure what point you are trying to make, my initial response was in answer to your inquiry about smokes and alcohol. There are substantial limitations on many activities based on age. The NY decision potentially calls into question whether a tiered system of gun rights is constitutional based on it the pronouncement that the 2nd amendment is not a "second class right", but for now it remains an open question.
We make distinctions based on age all of the time. Restricting gun purchases to those 21 y/o squares with the 2nd A.
Perhaps, perhaps not. SCOTUS has never opined on the matter so it remains an open question. Presume the issue will be raised if the age to purchase/own rifles is raised. Also an interesting takings clause question since there are thousands, if not millions of rifles currently owned by 18-20 year olds.
I think the issue is the age for purchasing guns, not ownership.
How can those practically be disconnected? Seriously doubt any legislation would make such a distinction.
My 18 y/o can't buy a gun, but he can own one. I give it to him for Christmas.

The Senate law is not much of an imposition.

Agreed. The Senate bill was a best case for gun owners under the circumstances. Moreover we can always claw back in future deal making the things we had cede in this one. The next four years will expand opportunities for such.





Yes the old lose to win strategy. 0% of the time it works every time.
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Big-O!-Bear said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.
Age to run for Congress -Specified in the constitution
Age to run for US Senate - specified in the constitution
Age to run for state legislative assemblies not protected by US constitution, though may be specified by applicable state constitutions and statutes
Texas required age 21 to obtain a CHL - potentially open point (together with limitation on under 21 handgun ownership) based on yesterday's decision
Age to purchase alcohol and tobacco products - asked and answered (see above)
Not sure what point you are trying to make, my initial response was in answer to your inquiry about smokes and alcohol. There are substantial limitations on many activities based on age. The NY decision potentially calls into question whether a tiered system of gun rights is constitutional based on it the pronouncement that the 2nd amendment is not a "second class right", but for now it remains an open question.
We make distinctions based on age all of the time. Restricting gun purchases to those 21 y/o squares with the 2nd A.
Perhaps, perhaps not. SCOTUS has never opined on the matter so it remains an open question. Presume the issue will be raised if the age to purchase/own rifles is raised. Also an interesting takings clause question since there are thousands, if not millions of rifles currently owned by 18-20 year olds.
I think the issue is the age for purchasing guns, not ownership.
How can those practically be disconnected? Seriously doubt any legislation would make such a distinction.
My 18 y/o can't buy a gun, but he can own one. I give it to him for Christmas.

The Senate law is not much of an imposition.

Agreed. The Senate bill was a best case for gun owners under the circumstances. Moreover we can always claw back in future deal making the things we had cede in this one. The next four years will expand opportunities for such.





Yes the old lose to win strategy. 0% of the time it works every time.
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Exactly. It's OK. We did really want to win that game anyway.
Golem
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ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.


Let's hope this unconstitutional legislation is immediately trashed. You can't limit a constitutional right after the age of majority is reached, merely for not reaching some other arbitrary age. You are either a full citizen or you are not.

Will speech be limited by age next? After all, young people use their speech to facilitate raucous gatherings, random sexual encounters that spread disease, etc.
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whiterock said:

We've got crazy people shooting up schools, so by all means go remove guns from law abiding citizens so we can continue to let murderous nutjobs continue to roam the streets.

Using similar logic, we should also DO SOMETHING about the horrific annual highway death toll by seriously restricting the kinds of dangerous vehicles law abiding citizens can drive (SUVs, mini vans, and large pickups are out as examples). If that won't stop people from driving drunk, I don't know what will!!
Osodecentx
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GrowlTowel said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.
Age to run for Congress
Age to run for US Senate
Age to run for state legislative assemblies
Texas required age 21 to obtain a CHL
Age to purchase alcohol and tobacco products


Age to cut your nuts off? 18
Age to see a flamer dance in flamer gear? Not sure what this is.
Golem
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Osodecentx said:

GrowlTowel said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

303Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

ABC BEAR said:

So 18 year olds have different 2nd Amendment rights than everyone else? The SC has already ruled that is not the case.....which means this entire legislative drama is going into the trash heap.
They also have different rights for alcohol and cigarette purchases

So what?
Alcohol and cigarettes are not protected by the bill of rights.
What about the 2nd Amendment and 17 year olds?
See any of the substantial and long established jurisprudence recognizing that minors have, in certain areas (including the 1st amendment), less than equal protections for their fundamental rights as adults that have reached the age of majority.
Age to run for Congress
Age to run for US Senate
Age to run for state legislative assemblies
Texas required age 21 to obtain a CHL
Age to purchase alcohol and tobacco products


Age to cut your nuts off? 18
Age to see a flamer dance in flamer gear? Not sure what this is.



Nope.

https://cbs6albany.com/news/nation-world/new-hampshire-teen-one-of-the-youngest-to-have-gender-reassignment-surgery

Note the phrase "one of the youngest".
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