i said he wasnt emotionlly disciplined enough to clown the committee.Osodecentx said:
But he is emotionally disciplined enough to br POTUS?
I also dont want him to be president again..
You need to read the independent platform.
i said he wasnt emotionlly disciplined enough to clown the committee.Osodecentx said:
But he is emotionally disciplined enough to br POTUS?
He would go full on rant and just not stop talking on live TV. They would end up removing him and his base would go nuts.4th and Inches said:
I would go and absoluetly clown the committee but Trump isnt emotionally disciplined enough to do it
Sam Lowry said:LOL…tell us about your Secret Service agent who was all set to destroy Cassidy Hutchinson until he chickened out and got exposed as a Trump stooge.Harrison Bergeron said:Tell us about how he took a gun from a Secret Service agent, got him in a head lock, and forced him back to the Capitol to take over America with an unarmed army!Sam Lowry said:That's an interesting take after months of hearings proved almost every allegation against him.RMF5630 said:Osodecentx said:No way does Trump testify under oathRMF5630 said:I agree. I also would ask to testify in front of the full Congress, as well as Live.Harrison Bergeron said:He might actually make a smart political move if he testifies. The committee does not want him too - it will find some way to make the subpoena disappear if he agrees to testify. They were hoping just to run disinformation and create another fake news story about why Trump would pull a Holder.RMF5630 said:
Trump is saying he will testify, if on live TV.
I am all for it. That is pay for TV action. I want to see him get into it with the Committee live.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-wants-to-testify-before-the-j6-committee-but-only-if-they-broadcast-his-testimony-live-nyt/ar-AA12VBwC?cvid=3890096e41214d70d9bf7b8b9659a09c
Well you and Sam have been wrong on ever step with Trump, let's see if Dems let him. He said he will on live TV.
Roger Stone calls Ivanka Trump Donald’s “abortionist bitch daughter”
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Wangchung said:The party of child groomers and open borders welcomes you.Osodecentx said:It'll never happen. I just found out Republicans are a new party, i.e. a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump International.Sam Lowry said:It makes sense to gather information from as many sources as possible before confronting Trump. It's the one way they might get some semblance of truth from him.4th and Inches said:Trump said its about time on Truth Social.. why wait so long?Sam Lowry said:
I'm surprised there isn't more enthusiasm. Trump has had to sit quietly all these months, wanting to defend himself, but they wouldn't let him. Now he finally gets a chance to make his case. This is what we've all been waiting for, right?
The Dear Leader is in total control. You must bend the knee or be gone. I'm gone
Intent is irrelevant. That's what you leftists never grasp. Orange man bad aside, Biden voters enabled groomers and the open border.Porteroso said:Wangchung said:The party of child groomers and open borders welcomes you.Osodecentx said:It'll never happen. I just found out Republicans are a new party, i.e. a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump International.Sam Lowry said:It makes sense to gather information from as many sources as possible before confronting Trump. It's the one way they might get some semblance of truth from him.4th and Inches said:Trump said its about time on Truth Social.. why wait so long?Sam Lowry said:
I'm surprised there isn't more enthusiasm. Trump has had to sit quietly all these months, wanting to defend himself, but they wouldn't let him. Now he finally gets a chance to make his case. This is what we've all been waiting for, right?
The Dear Leader is in total control. You must bend the knee or be gone. I'm gone
Isn't the difference that nobody in their right mind thinks Dems love Biden like MAGAs love Trump? Like Biden owns no part of the DNC and is just a placeholder that could for sure beat Trump?
Disagree, Biden is part of the Obama ownership of the DNC.You think Biden is calling the shots? He has no idea where he is half the time. WIthout a teleprompter he is lost. You think if Biden is not President Harris is capable of being President without Obama and Susan Rice instructing her? We are not talking Condaleza Rice, Haley or even Tulsi here, they can think for themselves without breaking into giiggles. .Porteroso said:Wangchung said:The party of child groomers and open borders welcomes you.Osodecentx said:It'll never happen. I just found out Republicans are a new party, i.e. a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump International.Sam Lowry said:It makes sense to gather information from as many sources as possible before confronting Trump. It's the one way they might get some semblance of truth from him.4th and Inches said:Trump said its about time on Truth Social.. why wait so long?Sam Lowry said:
I'm surprised there isn't more enthusiasm. Trump has had to sit quietly all these months, wanting to defend himself, but they wouldn't let him. Now he finally gets a chance to make his case. This is what we've all been waiting for, right?
The Dear Leader is in total control. You must bend the knee or be gone. I'm gone
Isn't the difference that nobody in their right mind thinks Dems love Biden like MAGAs love Trump? Like Biden owns no part of the DNC and is just a placeholder that could for sure beat Trump?
Wangchung said:Intent is irrelevant. That's what you leftists never grasp. Orange man bad aside, Biden voters enabled groomers and the open border.Porteroso said:Wangchung said:The party of child groomers and open borders welcomes you.Osodecentx said:It'll never happen. I just found out Republicans are a new party, i.e. a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump International.Sam Lowry said:It makes sense to gather information from as many sources as possible before confronting Trump. It's the one way they might get some semblance of truth from him.4th and Inches said:Trump said its about time on Truth Social.. why wait so long?Sam Lowry said:
I'm surprised there isn't more enthusiasm. Trump has had to sit quietly all these months, wanting to defend himself, but they wouldn't let him. Now he finally gets a chance to make his case. This is what we've all been waiting for, right?
The Dear Leader is in total control. You must bend the knee or be gone. I'm gone
Isn't the difference that nobody in their right mind thinks Dems love Biden like MAGAs love Trump? Like Biden owns no part of the DNC and is just a placeholder that could for sure beat Trump?
RMF5630 said:Disagree, Biden is part of the Obama ownership of the DNC.You think Biden is calling the shots? He has no idea where he is half the time. WIthout a teleprompter he is lost. You think if Biden is not President Harris is capable of being President without Obama and Susan Rice instructing her? We are not talking Condaleza Rice, Haley or even Tulsi here, they can think for themselves without breaking into giiggles. .Porteroso said:Wangchung said:The party of child groomers and open borders welcomes you.Osodecentx said:It'll never happen. I just found out Republicans are a new party, i.e. a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump International.Sam Lowry said:It makes sense to gather information from as many sources as possible before confronting Trump. It's the one way they might get some semblance of truth from him.4th and Inches said:Trump said its about time on Truth Social.. why wait so long?Sam Lowry said:
I'm surprised there isn't more enthusiasm. Trump has had to sit quietly all these months, wanting to defend himself, but they wouldn't let him. Now he finally gets a chance to make his case. This is what we've all been waiting for, right?
The Dear Leader is in total control. You must bend the knee or be gone. I'm gone
Isn't the difference that nobody in their right mind thinks Dems love Biden like MAGAs love Trump? Like Biden owns no part of the DNC and is just a placeholder that could for sure beat Trump?
he is a placeholder who has the distinction of being the worst president in 50+ years.Porteroso said:RMF5630 said:Disagree, Biden is part of the Obama ownership of the DNC.You think Biden is calling the shots? He has no idea where he is half the time. WIthout a teleprompter he is lost. You think if Biden is not President Harris is capable of being President without Obama and Susan Rice instructing her? We are not talking Condaleza Rice, Haley or even Tulsi here, they can think for themselves without breaking into giiggles. .Porteroso said:Wangchung said:The party of child groomers and open borders welcomes you.Osodecentx said:It'll never happen. I just found out Republicans are a new party, i.e. a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump International.Sam Lowry said:It makes sense to gather information from as many sources as possible before confronting Trump. It's the one way they might get some semblance of truth from him.4th and Inches said:Trump said its about time on Truth Social.. why wait so long?Sam Lowry said:
I'm surprised there isn't more enthusiasm. Trump has had to sit quietly all these months, wanting to defend himself, but they wouldn't let him. Now he finally gets a chance to make his case. This is what we've all been waiting for, right?
The Dear Leader is in total control. You must bend the knee or be gone. I'm gone
Isn't the difference that nobody in their right mind thinks Dems love Biden like MAGAs love Trump? Like Biden owns no part of the DNC and is just a placeholder that could for sure beat Trump?
I thought I just said Biden is an unimportant placeholder, and you say you disagree, then agree?
I sometimes am responding to the original post, bad habit on my part. Sorry, I was agreeing with you. I am too lazy to find original!Porteroso said:RMF5630 said:Disagree, Biden is part of the Obama ownership of the DNC.You think Biden is calling the shots? He has no idea where he is half the time. WIthout a teleprompter he is lost. You think if Biden is not President Harris is capable of being President without Obama and Susan Rice instructing her? We are not talking Condaleza Rice, Haley or even Tulsi here, they can think for themselves without breaking into giiggles. .Porteroso said:Wangchung said:The party of child groomers and open borders welcomes you.Osodecentx said:It'll never happen. I just found out Republicans are a new party, i.e. a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump International.Sam Lowry said:It makes sense to gather information from as many sources as possible before confronting Trump. It's the one way they might get some semblance of truth from him.4th and Inches said:Trump said its about time on Truth Social.. why wait so long?Sam Lowry said:
I'm surprised there isn't more enthusiasm. Trump has had to sit quietly all these months, wanting to defend himself, but they wouldn't let him. Now he finally gets a chance to make his case. This is what we've all been waiting for, right?
The Dear Leader is in total control. You must bend the knee or be gone. I'm gone
Isn't the difference that nobody in their right mind thinks Dems love Biden like MAGAs love Trump? Like Biden owns no part of the DNC and is just a placeholder that could for sure beat Trump?
I thought I just said Biden is an unimportant placeholder, and you say you disagree, then agree?
Placeholder? This racist, corrupt old fool has done more damage to the world in 18 months than anyone in 100 years.4th and Inches said:he is a placeholder who has the distinction of being the worst president in 50+ years.Porteroso said:RMF5630 said:Disagree, Biden is part of the Obama ownership of the DNC.You think Biden is calling the shots? He has no idea where he is half the time. WIthout a teleprompter he is lost. You think if Biden is not President Harris is capable of being President without Obama and Susan Rice instructing her? We are not talking Condaleza Rice, Haley or even Tulsi here, they can think for themselves without breaking into giiggles. .Porteroso said:Wangchung said:The party of child groomers and open borders welcomes you.Osodecentx said:It'll never happen. I just found out Republicans are a new party, i.e. a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump International.Sam Lowry said:It makes sense to gather information from as many sources as possible before confronting Trump. It's the one way they might get some semblance of truth from him.4th and Inches said:Trump said its about time on Truth Social.. why wait so long?Sam Lowry said:
I'm surprised there isn't more enthusiasm. Trump has had to sit quietly all these months, wanting to defend himself, but they wouldn't let him. Now he finally gets a chance to make his case. This is what we've all been waiting for, right?
The Dear Leader is in total control. You must bend the knee or be gone. I'm gone
Isn't the difference that nobody in their right mind thinks Dems love Biden like MAGAs love Trump? Like Biden owns no part of the DNC and is just a placeholder that could for sure beat Trump?
I thought I just said Biden is an unimportant placeholder, and you say you disagree, then agree?
It was a factual statement. Your feelings are irrelevant and your actions have consequences no matter your stated intent.Porteroso said:Wangchung said:Intent is irrelevant. That's what you leftists never grasp. Orange man bad aside, Biden voters enabled groomers and the open border.Porteroso said:Wangchung said:The party of child groomers and open borders welcomes you.Osodecentx said:It'll never happen. I just found out Republicans are a new party, i.e. a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump International.Sam Lowry said:It makes sense to gather information from as many sources as possible before confronting Trump. It's the one way they might get some semblance of truth from him.4th and Inches said:Trump said its about time on Truth Social.. why wait so long?Sam Lowry said:
I'm surprised there isn't more enthusiasm. Trump has had to sit quietly all these months, wanting to defend himself, but they wouldn't let him. Now he finally gets a chance to make his case. This is what we've all been waiting for, right?
The Dear Leader is in total control. You must bend the knee or be gone. I'm gone
Isn't the difference that nobody in their right mind thinks Dems love Biden like MAGAs love Trump? Like Biden owns no part of the DNC and is just a placeholder that could for sure beat Trump?
I see that was more of a generic Biden Bad statement. I thought you were trying for some sort of middle school burn with **** logic like that, but just you venting. Keep going, I'm sure there is more.
Obviously pretending to be a moderate voice in a desperate credibility grab so the democrats can have SOMEONE other than Joe to campaign for democrats.whiterock said:
"We spend enormous amounts of time and energy and resources pointing out the latest crazy thing he said, or how rude or mean some of the Republican candidates behaved," Obama said on a recent podcast. "That's probably not something that, in the minds of most voters, overrides their basic interests: Can I pay the rent? What are gas prices? How am I dealing with child care?"
-Barack Obama
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/obama-is-right-democrats-anti-trump-fixation-is-killing-them
Isn't it funny how not pointing out personal shortcomings starts coming from the Left when their politicians are floundering?whiterock said:
"We spend enormous amounts of time and energy and resources pointing out the latest crazy thing he said, or how rude or mean some of the Republican candidates behaved," Obama said on a recent podcast. "That's probably not something that, in the minds of most voters, overrides their basic interests: Can I pay the rent? What are gas prices? How am I dealing with child care?"
-Barack Obama
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/obama-is-right-democrats-anti-trump-fixation-is-killing-them
Ha, yeah, I guess he can hang his hat on the fact his victims we know of were all of age? Don't know if he could replicate the dotcom bubble again, though.He Hate Me said:
The only person capable of improving the Democrats chances in November is a healthy, vigorous Bill Clinton. But his better days are in the rear view mirror.
Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
if not .com, it would be something else. Right now it is electric vehicles, absolutely no way the grid can handle it, the technology is better, is ecologically better or able to safely function (see hazardous fires in South Florida). But, Joe deemed it so...Wangchung said:Ha, yeah, I guess he can hang his hat on the fact his victims we know of were all of age? Don't know if he could replicate the dotcom bubble again, though.He Hate Me said:
The only person capable of improving the Democrats chances in November is a healthy, vigorous Bill Clinton. But his better days are in the rear view mirror.
The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
He will, because he knows Megan is spot on - Trump supporters think Trump was robbed of both a first term and a 2nd......and they will not be denied because they are a clear majority of the GOP.ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
I am calling this now, DeSantis will not take a VP role. DeSantis is much closer to Reagan than Harris, Quayle, Bush Sr or Biden. He will stay Gov of Florida and run in 28, rather than be 2nd chair.whiterock said:He will, because he knows Megan is spot on - Trump supporters think Trump was robbed of both a first term and a 2nd......and they will not be denied because they are a clear majority of the GOP.ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
like it or not, Trump is only horse the GOP has for 2024.
and it's a far stronger & faster horse than his critics are willing to admit.
The path to President DeSantis goes thru President Trump.
So support Trump/DeSantis and the time will come.
That's assessment, not advocacy. Just is what it is. No other candidate can hold the Trump coalition together. So we gotta get on with the business of winning with the team we have rather than the one we'd like to have.
He is much closer to Trump than Reagan. Reagan was folksy, humorous, all wry smile & understatement, a disarming mix of "aw-shucks" in a tuxedo that few others could pull off, a Hollywood star that blue collar folks could identify with. DeSantis is a bomb-thrower by comparison, Trump-esque but without the rough edges (ergo the appeal with those shy of Trump).RMF5630 said:I am calling this now, DeSantis will not take a VP role. DeSantis is much closer to Reagan than Harris, Quayle, Bush Sr or Biden. He will stay Gov of Florida and run in 28, rather than be 2nd chair.whiterock said:He will, because he knows Megan is spot on - Trump supporters think Trump was robbed of both a first term and a 2nd......and they will not be denied because they are a clear majority of the GOP.ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
like it or not, Trump is only horse the GOP has for 2024.
and it's a far stronger & faster horse than his critics are willing to admit.
The path to President DeSantis goes thru President Trump.
So support Trump/DeSantis and the time will come.
That's assessment, not advocacy. Just is what it is. No other candidate can hold the Trump coalition together. So we gotta get on with the business of winning with the team we have rather than the one we'd like to have.
Why would Desantis hitch his wagon to the only politician in America with a lower approval number than Biden?whiterock said:RMF5630 said:I am calling this now, DeSantis will not take a VP role. DeSantis is much closer to Reagan than Harris, Quayle, Bush Sr or Biden. He will stay Gov of Florida and run in 28, rather than be 2nd chair.whiterock said:He will, because he knows Megan is spot on - Trump supporters think Trump was robbed of both a first term and a 2nd......and they will not be denied because they are a clear majority of the GOP.ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
like it or not, Trump is only horse the GOP has for 2024.
and it's a far stronger & faster horse than his critics are willing to admit.
The path to President DeSantis goes thru President Trump.
So support Trump/DeSantis and the time will come.
That's assessment, not advocacy. Just is what it is. No other candidate can hold the Trump coalition together. So we gotta get on with the business of winning with the team we have rather than the one we'd like to have.
Best scenario for him is to enter the 2028 race as sitting VPOTUS rather than as a former Gov. No serious contender would chose the latter rather than the former position as a platform to run, if they have the option. If he's offered to be Trump's VPOTUS, he will take it in a heartbeat. There is no downside. If Trump wins, DeSantis is VPOTUS. If Trump loses, DeSantis is still FL Gov and runs as a former VPOTUS nominee with nationwide fundraising connections superior to what he has today and strong connections to the MAGA base.
It's a bit early to start pulling everything together. But the logic of it is too compelling, natural fit. Nothing else will unify the party to the same degree. And for that reason I think the donor class will push the two together.
I have met him as part of my work. He is not going to be 2nd fiddle. He is also not tying himself to Trump, he and Trump have butted heads. They have a lot of the same believes, but DeSantis is in no way like Trump. DeSantis is much more substance than Trump.whiterock said:He is much closer to Trump than Reagan. Reagan was folksy, humorous, all wry smile & understatement, a disarming mix of "aw-shucks" in a tuxedo that few others could pull off, a Hollywood star that blue collar folks could identify with. DeSantis is a bomb-thrower by comparison, Trump-esque but without the rough edges (ergo the appeal with those shy of Trump).RMF5630 said:I am calling this now, DeSantis will not take a VP role. DeSantis is much closer to Reagan than Harris, Quayle, Bush Sr or Biden. He will stay Gov of Florida and run in 28, rather than be 2nd chair.whiterock said:He will, because he knows Megan is spot on - Trump supporters think Trump was robbed of both a first term and a 2nd......and they will not be denied because they are a clear majority of the GOP.ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
like it or not, Trump is only horse the GOP has for 2024.
and it's a far stronger & faster horse than his critics are willing to admit.
The path to President DeSantis goes thru President Trump.
So support Trump/DeSantis and the time will come.
That's assessment, not advocacy. Just is what it is. No other candidate can hold the Trump coalition together. So we gotta get on with the business of winning with the team we have rather than the one we'd like to have.
The problem with the scenario you laid out is that DeSantis' term as Gov. will end in 2026. That leaves a 2yr underlap between governorship and the 2028 WH run. That is a fairly significant handicap. While he's governor, he holds his FL fundraising base hostage - they HAVE to donate to his POTUS campaign, as he will either be their governor or their POTUS. But as a former governor, he loses that leverage, and that significantly impairs fundraising. He will have compete as an equal with others for a national fundraising base that will be shopping around from ground zero and will have contenders like Glenn Youngkin and one or two other hot-shots who get elected this go-around and in 2026. Kari Lake is one to keep an eye on. DeSantis is alone at the head of the "prospect" pack at the moment, but will he be for the 2028 race? Maybe not.
Best scenario for him is to enter the 2028 race as sitting VPOTUS rather than as a former Gov. No serious contender would chose the latter rather than the former position as a platform to run, if they have the option. If he's offered to be Trump's VPOTUS, he will take it in a heartbeat. There is no downside. If Trump wins, DeSantis is VPOTUS. If Trump loses, DeSantis is still FL Gov and runs as a former VPOTUS nominee with nationwide fundraising connections superior to what he has today and strong connections to the MAGA base.
It's a bit early to start pulling everything together. But the logic of it is too compelling, natural fit. Nothing else will unify the party to the same degree. And for that reason I think the donor class will push the two together.
.
ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Trump was undoubtedly wronged during his first term. And I'm not talking about the 2020 election. However, instead of being strategic, Trump went postal and was trying to take out any and all who didn't bend to his insanity, including allies.. And yes, he crossed the Rubicon on that. I understand the frustration, but feels and vindication aren't a platform. It's the same emotionalism the left uses. Trump isn't the strength, he's the vulnerability, and the blind loyalty over principle or even pragmatism is what gives dolts like Biden and Fetterman and Warnock shots when they shouldn't have one. Just look at these candidates he promoted and we're stuck with. Oz and Walker? Ugh. There was a time he did, but DeSantis knows and wants no part of him.whiterock said:He will, because he knows Megan is spot on - Trump supporters think Trump was robbed of both a first term and a 2nd......and they will not be denied because they are a clear majority of the GOP.ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
like it or not, Trump is only horse the GOP has for 2024.
and it's a far stronger & faster horse than his critics are willing to admit.
The path to President DeSantis goes thru President Trump.
So support Trump/DeSantis and the time will come.
That's assessment, not advocacy. Just is what it is. No other candidate can hold the Trump coalition together. So we gotta get on with the business of winning with the team we have rather than the one we'd like to have.
I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
LOL.....if you believe this stuff then you are likely someone who stood in line to get your death jab...J.B.Katz said:
A differing view from Turley's:Two bipartisan 9-0 votes against Donald J. Trump today, one 9-0 vote by SCOTUS, the other 9-0 by the Select Committee to Investigate the Insurrection. A bad day for Trump, a good day for the Rule of Law.
— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) October 13, 2022What Committee really drove home today is evidence of Trump's knowledge and even premeditation. centerpiece was his knowledge -- b/c advisers told him and told committee they told him -- that the talking points he continued to spout (suitcase, machines, etc) were false.
— Harry Litman (@harrylitman) October 13, 2022
I'm more interested in why Pelosi didn't have the Whitehouse properly secured. The National Guard would have been a good idea. They knew angry people would be there, they did a piss poor job of having enough security to stave off the crowd when mob mentality took over.4th and Inches said:
I'm more interested in Pelosi's daughter's film that she made of that day. Interesting that she was there filming it and she had special access and this is the first we're hearing of it.
How much was Pelosi's daughter paid for her footage by CNN and by the J6 committee
Bowser said no. She did not want a military presence in DC. At least what was said early on.Forest Bueller_bf said:I'm more interested in why Pelosi didn't have the Whitehouse properly secured. The National Guard would have been a good idea. They knew angry people would be there, they did a piss poor job of having enough security to stave off the crowd when mob mentality took over.4th and Inches said:
I'm more interested in Pelosi's daughter's film that she made of that day. Interesting that she was there filming it and she had special access and this is the first we're hearing of it.
How much was Pelosi's daughter paid for her footage by CNN and by the J6 committee
I am more interested in the guys storming the capitol to overturn an election4th and Inches said:
I'm more interested in Pelosi's daughter's film that she made of that day. Interesting that she was there filming it and she had special access and this is the first we're hearing of it.
How much was Pelosi's daughter paid for her footage by CNN and by the J6 committee
Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.