you dont find it curious at all that we had a film crew there but not extra security?Waco1947 said:I am more interested in the guys storming the capitol to overturn an election4th and Inches said:
I'm more interested in Pelosi's daughter's film that she made of that day. Interesting that she was there filming it and she had special access and this is the first we're hearing of it.
How much was Pelosi's daughter paid for her footage by CNN and by the J6 committee
No I do not find it weird. I find it rather ordinary that official photographers are in the House like in the White House4th and Inches said:you dont find it curious at all that we had a film crew there but not extra security?Waco1947 said:I am more interested in the guys storming the capitol to overturn an election4th and Inches said:
I'm more interested in Pelosi's daughter's film that she made of that day. Interesting that she was there filming it and she had special access and this is the first we're hearing of it.
How much was Pelosi's daughter paid for her footage by CNN and by the J6 committee
Weird..
Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
Really? It sure looked like they took selfies, left notes and ultimately left. Since there was no other infrastructure to support bringing down of Democracy and a coup, you think maybe it was to send a message about perceived injustices???Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
I don't know whether the sentence is justifiable or not, but sending Bannon in jail for refusing to testify to J6 committee seems like something that's going to further cement the growing idea on the right that DOJ is an instrument of political persecution. https://t.co/mru231LwHf
— Mark Hemingway (@Heminator) October 17, 2022
Disrupt the certification of a single candidate's election because they believed it was fraudulently obtained. What exactly have you projected as the potential outcome of this? This is where reality has gotten incredibly warped. Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming, this type of angle sounds as nutty if not more so than the reasons behind the Capitol riots. Democracy was never in danger.Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
they are not the official photographersWaco1947 said:No I do not find it weird. I find it rather ordinary that official photographers are in the House like in the White House4th and Inches said:you dont find it curious at all that we had a film crew there but not extra security?Waco1947 said:I am more interested in the guys storming the capitol to overturn an election4th and Inches said:
I'm more interested in Pelosi's daughter's film that she made of that day. Interesting that she was there filming it and she had special access and this is the first we're hearing of it.
How much was Pelosi's daughter paid for her footage by CNN and by the J6 committee
Weird..
Are you assuming their gender?Waco1947 said:I am more interested in the guys storming the capitol to overturn an election4th and Inches said:
I'm more interested in Pelosi's daughter's film that she made of that day. Interesting that she was there filming it and she had special access and this is the first we're hearing of it.
How much was Pelosi's daughter paid for her footage by CNN and by the J6 committee
protesting- its a first amendment right.Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
There's actually a plausible explanation. She was there to interview and grab sound bytes from the craziest of the crazies at the Trump rally to put together a video to be used as fodder for the left, or Vice, etc. "Gotcha media" that both sides like to do. Turns out, they obliged her more than she ever could have asked for.4th and Inches said:they are not the official photographersWaco1947 said:No I do not find it weird. I find it rather ordinary that official photographers are in the House like in the White House4th and Inches said:you dont find it curious at all that we had a film crew there but not extra security?Waco1947 said:I am more interested in the guys storming the capitol to overturn an election4th and Inches said:
I'm more interested in Pelosi's daughter's film that she made of that day. Interesting that she was there filming it and she had special access and this is the first we're hearing of it.
How much was Pelosi's daughter paid for her footage by CNN and by the J6 committee
Weird..
They were a special film crew specific for the event who happen to be related to the speaker of the house(nepotism!)
Not at all.ATL Bear said:Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming,Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
Democracy is bigger than a single election not to mention the United States. Good grief you people are eaten up with irrational fear and perspective.Sam Lowry said:Not at all.ATL Bear said:Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming,Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
To overthrow a Democracy? Jan 6th was enough???? Come on Sam. You are really reaching. It would not even of negated the Certification, even if they prevented from happening.Sam Lowry said:Not at all.ATL Bear said:Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming,Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
No even worse. Overthrowing "Our Democracy."RMF5630 said:But, overthrowing Democracy????Sam Lowry said:Not at all.ATL Bear said:Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming,Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
No, you're just making a rather odd leap. They were there to bring down a democracy, not democracy as a concept. I am amused, but not comforted, by the assurance that they only meant to overturn an election and impose martial law just this one time. I don't know how many times something like that has to happen before Republicans see it as a threat.ATL Bear said:Democracy is bigger than a single election not to mention the United States. Good grief you people are eaten up with irrational fear and perspective.Sam Lowry said:Not at all.ATL Bear said:Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming,Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
Sam, please tell me how your fear would have played out? Because I am seeing a demonstration by people pissed after the Summer of Love riots finally wanting to have their voices heard getting out of control and crossing into breaking and entering/trespassing. I see absolutely no end game to get where you and Liz say they wanted to go.Sam Lowry said:No, you're just making a rather odd leap. They were there to bring down a democracy, not democracy as a concept. I am amused, but not comforted, by the assurance that they only meant to overturn an election and impose martial law just this one time. I don't know how many times something like that has to happen before Republicans see it as a threat.ATL Bear said:Democracy is bigger than a single election not to mention the United States. Good grief you people are eaten up with irrational fear and perspective.Sam Lowry said:Not at all.ATL Bear said:Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming,Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
Threats have to be realistic, and not made up in the minds of idiots, both sides.Sam Lowry said:No, you're just making a rather odd leap. They were there to bring down a democracy, not democracy as a concept. I am amused, but not comforted, by the assurance that they only meant to overturn an election and impose martial law just this one time. I don't know how many times something like that has to happen before Republicans see it as a threat.ATL Bear said:Democracy is bigger than a single election not to mention the United States. Good grief you people are eaten up with irrational fear and perspective.Sam Lowry said:Not at all.ATL Bear said:Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming,Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
That isn't what the rioters thought they were doing. They thought if they delayed the certification past midnight the election would be sent back to the states where Trump could get weak minded state legislators to submit an alternate set of electors, IOW steal the electionATL Bear said:Disrupt the certification of a single candidate's election because they believed it was fraudulently obtained. What exactly have you projected as the potential outcome of this? This is where reality has gotten incredibly warped. Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming, this type of angle sounds as nutty if not more so than the reasons behind the Capitol riots. Democracy was never in danger.Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
First, they don't believe it was stealing. They did not agree that Biden won.Osodecentx said:That isn't what the rioters thought they were doing. They thought if they delayed the certification past midnight the election would be sent back to the states where Trump could get weak minded state legislators to submit an alternate set of electors, IOW steal the electionATL Bear said:Disrupt the certification of a single candidate's election because they believed it was fraudulently obtained. What exactly have you projected as the potential outcome of this? This is where reality has gotten incredibly warped. Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming, this type of angle sounds as nutty if not more so than the reasons behind the Capitol riots. Democracy was never in danger.Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
Like every issue, threat to democracy depends on who did it. It could either be saving democracy or a threat to democracy.He Hate Me said:
Question to the Parlimentarian:
Is it an attack on "Our Democracy" (tm-DNC) when people contact Electors and try to get them to vote for the candidate who did not carry the state?
Even if I followed your scenario, democracy wouldn't have been destroyed. We'd have gone to the rule of law and sorted it out. Or course there is this fantastical scenario of him instilling Marshall Law, cancelling the legislature and court system, and calling himself Emperor of the world. I think Sam is positing that. And maybe some posters here would have fallen in line for it.Osodecentx said:That isn't what the rioters thought they were doing. They thought if they delayed the certification past midnight the election would be sent back to the states where Trump could get weak minded state legislators to submit an alternate set of electors, IOW steal the electionATL Bear said:Disrupt the certification of a single candidate's election because they believed it was fraudulently obtained. What exactly have you projected as the potential outcome of this? This is where reality has gotten incredibly warped. Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming, this type of angle sounds as nutty if not more so than the reasons behind the Capitol riots. Democracy was never in danger.Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
They said the same thing about George W. Bush in 2007 remember ... he was going to declare himself emperor and refuse to leave.ATL Bear said:Even if I followed your scenario, democracy wouldn't have been destroyed. We'd have gone to the rule of law and sorted it out. Or course there is this fantastical scenario of him instilling Marshall Law, cancelling the legislature and court system, and calling himself Emperor of the world. I think Sam is positing that. And maybe some posters here would have fallen in line for it.Osodecentx said:That isn't what the rioters thought they were doing. They thought if they delayed the certification past midnight the election would be sent back to the states where Trump could get weak minded state legislators to submit an alternate set of electors, IOW steal the electionATL Bear said:Disrupt the certification of a single candidate's election because they believed it was fraudulently obtained. What exactly have you projected as the potential outcome of this? This is where reality has gotten incredibly warped. Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming, this type of angle sounds as nutty if not more so than the reasons behind the Capitol riots. Democracy was never in danger.Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
Problem is that the Constitution fixes the date of the Quadrennial Election.Guy Noir said:
If the certification of the election process failed to complete, then Trump could declare that the election process failed and we would need a new election to be scheduled at a later date. Poof Trump would remain in power.
I believe a similar thing happened in Venezuela. The President then failed to schedule a new election in Venezuela.
The USA is vulnerable at this time of transfer of power.
"Please consider today who had a hand in defeating President Trump's efforts to overturn the election, Vice President Pence, Bill Barr, Jeff Rosen, and others at the Department of Justice, State Republican officials, White House staff who blocked proposals to mobilize the military to seize voting machines and run new elections, our Capitol Police, aided by the Metropolitan Police, other federal law enforcement, and our National Guard, who arrived later in the afternoon.ATL Bear said:Threats have to be realistic, and not made up in the minds of idiots, both sides.Sam Lowry said:No, you're just making a rather odd leap. They were there to bring down a democracy, not democracy as a concept. I am amused, but not comforted, by the assurance that they only meant to overturn an election and impose martial law just this one time. I don't know how many times something like that has to happen before Republicans see it as a threat.ATL Bear said:Democracy is bigger than a single election not to mention the United States. Good grief you people are eaten up with irrational fear and perspective.Sam Lowry said:Not at all.ATL Bear said:Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming,Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
EDIT: And the Presidential elector certification is about as non-democratic of a democratic thing as you could find. Which makes this "overthrowing democracy" claim even more absurd.
You missed your calling, Kermit.Sam Lowry said:"Please consider today who had a hand in defeating President Trump's efforts to overturn the election, Vice President Pence, Bill Barr, Jeff Rosen, and others at the Department of Justice, State Republican officials, White House staff who blocked proposals to mobilize the military to seize voting machines and run new elections, our Capitol Police, aided by the Metropolitan Police, other federal law enforcement, and our National Guard, who arrived later in the afternoon.ATL Bear said:Threats have to be realistic, and not made up in the minds of idiots, both sides.Sam Lowry said:No, you're just making a rather odd leap. They were there to bring down a democracy, not democracy as a concept. I am amused, but not comforted, by the assurance that they only meant to overturn an election and impose martial law just this one time. I don't know how many times something like that has to happen before Republicans see it as a threat.ATL Bear said:Democracy is bigger than a single election not to mention the United States. Good grief you people are eaten up with irrational fear and perspective.Sam Lowry said:Not at all.ATL Bear said:Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming,Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
EDIT: And the Presidential elector certification is about as non-democratic of a democratic thing as you could find. Which makes this "overthrowing democracy" claim even more absurd.
"All of these people had a hand in stopping Donald Trump. This leads us to a key question. Why would Americans assume that our Constitution and our institutions and our republic are invulnerable to another attack? Why would we assume that those institutions will not falter next time? A key lesson of this investigation is this."
Liz Cheney
no, thats not how it works.. we have history to tell you what would happen and that isnt itGuy Noir said:
If the certification of the election process failed to complete, then Trump could declare that the election process failed and we would need a new election to be scheduled at a later date. Poof Trump would remain in power.
I believe a similar thing happened in Venezuela. The President then failed to schedule a new election in Venezuela.
The USA is vulnerable at this time of transfer of power.
Sam Lowry said:"Please consider today who had a hand in defeating President Trump's efforts to overturn the election, Vice President Pence, Bill Barr, Jeff Rosen, and others at the Department of Justice, State Republican officials, White House staff who blocked proposals to mobilize the military to seize voting machines and run new elections, our Capitol Police, aided by the Metropolitan Police, other federal law enforcement, and our National Guard, who arrived later in the afternoon.ATL Bear said:Threats have to be realistic, and not made up in the minds of idiots, both sides.Sam Lowry said:No, you're just making a rather odd leap. They were there to bring down a democracy, not democracy as a concept. I am amused, but not comforted, by the assurance that they only meant to overturn an election and impose martial law just this one time. I don't know how many times something like that has to happen before Republicans see it as a threat.ATL Bear said:Democracy is bigger than a single election not to mention the United States. Good grief you people are eaten up with irrational fear and perspective.Sam Lowry said:Not at all.ATL Bear said:Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming,Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
EDIT: And the Presidential elector certification is about as non-democratic of a democratic thing as you could find. Which makes this "overthrowing democracy" claim even more absurd.
"All of these people had a hand in stopping Donald Trump. This leads us to a key question. Why would Americans assume that our Constitution and our institutions and our republic are invulnerable to another attack? Why would we assume that those institutions will not falter next time? A key lesson of this investigation is this."
Liz Cheney
4th and Inches said:Sam Lowry said:"Please consider today who had a hand in defeating President Trump's efforts to overturn the election, Vice President Pence, Bill Barr, Jeff Rosen, and others at the Department of Justice, State Republican officials, White House staff who blocked proposals to mobilize the military to seize voting machines and run new elections, our Capitol Police, aided by the Metropolitan Police, other federal law enforcement, and our National Guard, who arrived later in the afternoon.ATL Bear said:Threats have to be realistic, and not made up in the minds of idiots, both sides.Sam Lowry said:No, you're just making a rather odd leap. They were there to bring down a democracy, not democracy as a concept. I am amused, but not comforted, by the assurance that they only meant to overturn an election and impose martial law just this one time. I don't know how many times something like that has to happen before Republicans see it as a threat.ATL Bear said:Democracy is bigger than a single election not to mention the United States. Good grief you people are eaten up with irrational fear and perspective.Sam Lowry said:Not at all.ATL Bear said:Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming,Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
EDIT: And the Presidential elector certification is about as non-democratic of a democratic thing as you could find. Which makes this "overthrowing democracy" claim even more absurd.
"All of these people had a hand in stopping Donald Trump. This leads us to a key question. Why would Americans assume that our Constitution and our institutions and our republic are invulnerable to another attack? Why would we assume that those institutions will not falter next time? A key lesson of this investigation is this."
Liz Cheney
Osodecentx said:4th and Inches said:Sam Lowry said:"Please consider today who had a hand in defeating President Trump's efforts to overturn the election, Vice President Pence, Bill Barr, Jeff Rosen, and others at the Department of Justice, State Republican officials, White House staff who blocked proposals to mobilize the military to seize voting machines and run new elections, our Capitol Police, aided by the Metropolitan Police, other federal law enforcement, and our National Guard, who arrived later in the afternoon.ATL Bear said:Threats have to be realistic, and not made up in the minds of idiots, both sides.Sam Lowry said:No, you're just making a rather odd leap. They were there to bring down a democracy, not democracy as a concept. I am amused, but not comforted, by the assurance that they only meant to overturn an election and impose martial law just this one time. I don't know how many times something like that has to happen before Republicans see it as a threat.ATL Bear said:Democracy is bigger than a single election not to mention the United States. Good grief you people are eaten up with irrational fear and perspective.Sam Lowry said:Not at all.ATL Bear said:Aside from the fact you'd have to storm hundreds of capitals to actually bring down democracy, and it would require more than a storming,Osodecentx said:ATL Bear said:Oh boy...Waco1947 said:Reality - People stormed the Capitol to bring down democracyRMF5630 said:I agree. Trump is being treated very un-American in the witch hunt to find some way to prosecute him for something. What the Dems are doing with the Jan 6th Commission and DOJ is right out of McCarthyism.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:The Trump political clown show needs to die. On both sides. DeSantis isn't hitching his wagon to that.whiterock said:
Now for a dose of reality. Megan nails it. And the less you esteem Trump & Trumpers, the more compelling her points are.Dave looks like he’s about to cry when Megyn Kelly schools him on Trump 2024. pic.twitter.com/EgsgtRbNEF
— Merissa Hansen🇺🇸🕵🏻♀️ (@MerissaHansen17) October 16, 2022
At some point, the obvious wisdom of Trump/Desantis will start to settle in.
Agreed
Trump is politically self destructive.
Not with his fanatically loyal base of course …..but with independents , women and younger voters .
DeSantis has seen how Trump treated Pence and cabinet members . No way in the world would he accept the same treatment.
Trump needs to disappear and make room for someone who can win in 2024 .
That said, Trump is political poison. He needs to have a PAC or a Lobby Group, but NOT run for public office. He is a disaster as an elected official. I like his policies, but his personality is too caustic to be able to Govern effectively.
I do believe the Dems made him this way, he was not like this in 2016 and seemed to honestly think he was going to be able to cut deals, thereby making DC work. But he went from a counter-puncher to Mike Tyson just uncontrollable.
What were the guys storming the Capitol trying to do?
EDIT: And the Presidential elector certification is about as non-democratic of a democratic thing as you could find. Which makes this "overthrowing democracy" claim even more absurd.
"All of these people had a hand in stopping Donald Trump. This leads us to a key question. Why would Americans assume that our Constitution and our institutions and our republic are invulnerable to another attack? Why would we assume that those institutions will not falter next time? A key lesson of this investigation is this."
Liz Cheney
Ah, the GIF gambit
If Jan 6 and “democracy” are your big issues this year, you are probably considerably more privileged than the majority of Americans — I would venture to say
— Jon Levine (@LevineJonathan) October 18, 2022
The January 6 committee lied about the Oath Keepers' plot to "attack" the Capitol.
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) October 17, 2022
Here is testimony by an FBI investigator who admitted the government has no evidence of an advanced plan OR to use the so-called QRF. pic.twitter.com/Wrk7sr0Q7k
