Giving Blood Today

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Waco1947
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Golem Leviticus 18:22
22 " 'Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
what about the rest of the statutes?
Waco1947
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I Corinthians Don't you know that anyone who is joined to someone who is sleeping around is one body with that person? The scripture says, The two will become one flesh.[c] 17 The one who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with him. 18 Avoid sexual immorality! Every sin that a person can do is committed outside the body, except those who engage in sexual immorality commit sin against their own bodies.NSRV

This translation is more accurate and closer to the Greek than the one you used.
You are adding words to scripture.
Waco1947
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Again you are using a flawed translation
Timothy 1:8-11
8 We know that the law is good if one uses it properly.
9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,
10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurersand for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine
"Practicing homosexuality is even close to the original Greek

Waco1947
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Romans 1:27
27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Paul is addressing Roman Christians and telling them the history of God with the Romans. Paul says in that the Romans should know about God because of nature. this history with God has been ignored by the pagan Romans; consequently, God gave them up to their passions after first saying that they worshiped reptiles and animals and such. These pagan temples to which Paul is referring or horrible places where men took advantage of boys sexually And prostitutes performed acts that were indeed homosexual behavior but God is condemning these as a part of a cult community. In these cultic acts the Romans are indeed to be condemned because they represent acts homosexual and heterosexual in a context that is did that is demeaning and dehumanizing to other human beings.
The act of homosexual behavior needs to be seen within this context of cultic worship that the Romans participated in and it was simply a part of Roman culture. Paul is trying to set a new standard to help the Romans understand that this sexual immorality is harmful to their relationships and their relationship to God.
Wrecks Quan Dough
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Waco1947 said:

Golem Leviticus 18:22
22 " 'Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
what about the rest of the statutes?
Lev. 20:13 amplifies and makes homosexual conduct subject to capital punishment.

Al Mohler cuts through the noise on this debate:




D. C. Bear
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Oldbear83 said:

Golem said:

The questionnaire is extensive and at least 6 questions are intended to weed out gay dudes. (Don't worry, I'm still donating).

It does occur to me, what objective fact about being a gay guy makes you unsuitable for donating blood? Why are gay guys more prone to spreading disease and misery?
I give blood regularly, and I don't recall any of the questions being aimed to exclude gay men.

There are questions about sex for money, recent tattoos, exposure to Hepatitus or other infections, but nothing focusing on gays.

Were you in College Station? They may have been recruiting for cheerleaders.


Really? I remember those questions from the past. When a question asks a male about sex with other men, even one time, it is specifically looking to exclude gay men. Not sure if the still ask those questions. They also had questions about living in Africa (AIDS, maybe malaria) and being in Europe at certain times (mad cow disease).
Golem
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Waco1947 said:

Golem said:

Anyone know why it's so dangerous to everyone else to receive blood from gays?
Or blacks or Asians or Hispanics. Wait …it's not 1955


Nothing dangerous about getting blood from different races. But from gays, it can be positively deadly. Why is that?
D. C. Bear
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Golem said:

Waco1947 said:

Golem said:

Anyone know why it's so dangerous to everyone else to receive blood from gays?
Or blacks or Asians or Hispanics. Wait …it's not 1955


Nothing dangerous about getting blood from different races. But from gays, it can be positively deadly. Why is that?


In the US, chances of having your blood supply contaminated with HIV were significantly higher if you took donations from men who had sex with men, even one time.
Golem
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D. C. Bear said:

Golem said:

Waco1947 said:

Golem said:

Anyone know why it's so dangerous to everyone else to receive blood from gays?
Or blacks or Asians or Hispanics. Wait …it's not 1955


Nothing dangerous about getting blood from different races. But from gays, it can be positively deadly. Why is that?


In the US, chances of having your blood supply contaminated with HIV were significantly higher if you took donations from men who had sex with men, even one time.


What is it about gay men that makes them so riddled with HIV compared to all other groups?
D. C. Bear
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Golem said:

D. C. Bear said:

Golem said:

Waco1947 said:

Golem said:

Anyone know why it's so dangerous to everyone else to receive blood from gays?
Or blacks or Asians or Hispanics. Wait …it's not 1955


Nothing dangerous about getting blood from different races. But from gays, it can be positively deadly. Why is that?


In the US, chances of having your blood supply contaminated with HIV were significantly higher if you took donations from men who had sex with men, even one time.


What is it about gay men that makes them so riddled with HIV compared to all other groups?


I couldn't say. HIV spread widely in Africa without much help from gay men. For some reason, HIV never really broke out into the non-gay men population in the United States.
Waco1947
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Golem said:

D. C. Bear said:

Golem said:

Waco1947 said:

Golem said:

Anyone know why it's so dangerous to everyone else to receive blood from gays?
Or blacks or Asians or Hispanics. Wait …it's not 1955

Anal sex. The virus enters the intestines and enter the blood stream from there.

Nothing dangerous about getting blood from different races. But from gays, it can be positively deadly. Why is that?


In the US, chances of having your blood supply contaminated with HIV were significantly higher if you took donations from men who had sex with men, even one time.


What is it about gay men that makes them so riddled with HIV compared to all other groups?
Wangchung
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It's a bull**** questionnaire to begin with. As if I'm going to know the life story of the person I got the blood from.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
Oldbear83
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Golem said:

Anyone know why it's so dangerous to everyone else to receive blood from gays?
Going back to those screening questions, all were about infection control and whether someone had a certain disease or was exposed to it.

I have never heard of anyone being refused the opportunity to donate blood because they were homosexual.

So calm down, son.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Golem
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Waco1947 said:

Golem said:

D. C. Bear said:

Golem said:

Waco1947 said:

Golem said:

Anyone know why it's so dangerous to everyone else to receive blood from gays?
Or blacks or Asians or Hispanics. Wait …it's not 1955

Anal sex. The virus enters the intestines and enter the blood stream from there.

Nothing dangerous about getting blood from different races. But from gays, it can be positively deadly. Why is that?


In the US, chances of having your blood supply contaminated with HIV were significantly higher if you took donations from men who had sex with men, even one time.


What is it about gay men that makes them so riddled with HIV compared to all other groups?
Their behavior is filthy, disgusting, promiscuous, immoral, and correspondingly, a huge vector for all manner of sexually transmitted diseases that make their very blood a danger to normal people.


I agree.
Oldbear83
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D. C. Bear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Golem said:

The questionnaire is extensive and at least 6 questions are intended to weed out gay dudes. (Don't worry, I'm still donating).

It does occur to me, what objective fact about being a gay guy makes you unsuitable for donating blood? Why are gay guys more prone to spreading disease and misery?
I give blood regularly, and I don't recall any of the questions being aimed to exclude gay men.

There are questions about sex for money, recent tattoos, exposure to Hepatitus or other infections, but nothing focusing on gays.

Were you in College Station? They may have been recruiting for cheerleaders.


Really? I remember those questions from the past. When a question asks a male about sex with other men, even one time, it is specifically looking to exclude gay men. Not sure if the still ask those questions. They also had questions about living in Africa (AIDS, maybe malaria) and being in Europe at certain times (mad cow disease).
Those questions don't automatically disqualify a donor if there is a 'yes' answer.

For example, there is a question about cancer. As it happens, I have an incurable cancer but it does not affect my blood, so while I answer that question 'yes' about cancer, the center where I regularly donate knows the whole background and it's a non-issue.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
D. C. Bear
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Wangchung said:

It's a bull**** questionnaire to begin with. As if I'm going to know the life story of the person I got the blood from.


It is a screening questionnaire to try to keep things like HIV and hepatitis out of the blood supply. It's not like the people getting the blood review the questionnaire!
Canada2017
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Waco1947 said:

Canada2017 said:

Waco1947 said:

Golem said:

Scripture is clear:

Leviticus 18:22
22 " 'Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

Romans 1:27
27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Leviticus 20:13
13 " 'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

1 Corinthians 6:9
9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men

1 Timothy 1:8-11
8 We know that the law is good if one uses it properly.
9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,
10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurersand for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine

Jude 1:7
7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

Mark 10:6-9
6 "But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female.'
7 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,
8 and the two will become one flesh.'So they are no longer two, but one flesh.
9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."

1 Corinthians 7:2
2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband.


Thank you. Each of these needs context. Some are poor translation. Jesus never said a word about the practice of homosexuality.


You are full of **** .

The Bible could not be any clearer in regards to homosexuality.


Full of what?
You are full of **** .

Wangchung
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D. C. Bear said:

Wangchung said:

It's a bull**** questionnaire to begin with. As if I'm going to know the life story of the person I got the blood from.


It is a screening questionnaire to try to keep things like HIV and hepatitis out of the blood supply. It's not like the people getting the blood review the questionnaire!
I'm just not sure how I'm supposed to know the lifestyle of the person I take the blood from before donating it to a blood bank.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
LIB,MR BEARS
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Wangchung said:

D. C. Bear said:

Wangchung said:

It's a bull**** questionnaire to begin with. As if I'm going to know the life story of the person I got the blood from.


It is a screening questionnaire to try to keep things like HIV and hepatitis out of the blood supply. It's not like the people getting the blood review the questionnaire!
I'm just not sure how I'm supposed to know the lifestyle of the person I take the blood from before donating it to a blood bank.

Keep your eyes open as you nibble on their neck.

(sorry, I shouldn't assume you're a lawyer or do payday loans)
Wangchung
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They get so pissy about it too. "Where did you get this blood? Why is there so much of it? We can't take blood brought in to us unless it's inside of you!" Freaking Nazis.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
whiterock
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Canada2017 said:

Waco1947 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I have never understood anyone choosing to be gay but if course that opens a can of worms.
As to whether it is a choice or not a complex answer - maybe genes, maybe choice, maybe culture, family but whatever the reason it is their choice and none of your business. It does hurt you or your family does it?
Gays don't understand your heterosexual sexuality either. Gender identity is fluid and none of your business.


Rot .
Gays don't understand heterosexuality? Every gay person I know, except for one, dated someone of the other sex. Almost all of them married someone of the opposite sex and had children, then divorced in mid-life (or later) & went on to live in a gay enclave in a major urban area.

But the funniest part is the statement in bold. "none of your business?" If the queer among us really believed that, we would not be having this discussion.

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