Sam Lowry said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed.

---

It's both.

---

Uh, no. The entire discourse of the Frankfurt School is premised on the idea that populism has to spring from some inteinsic discontent.

Classic example of corrupted institutions.

https://texasscorecard.com/state/texas-association-of-school-boards-endorses-transgender-restroom-policies/

whiterock said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed.

---

It's both.

---

Uh, no. The entire discourse of the Frankfurt School is premised on the idea that populism has to spring from some inteinsic discontent.

---

I just said that it springs from underlying discontent. It also lends itself to exploitation by pied pipers. It isn't just one or the other.

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

whiterock said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed.

---

It's both.

---

Uh, no. The entire discourse of the Frankfurt School is premised on the idea that populism has to spring from some inteinsic discontent.

---

There are competing interests of discontent, with both sides using populism.

Republicans always disappoint….always.

Republicans won the House, in part, because they promised to combat wokeness in government institutions.

Now House Republicans are promoting DEI on Congressional subcommittees, @SaysSimonson reports.

Just a few college kids—and both political parties.https://t.co/kQPHPV2E2o

— Aaron Sibarium (@aaronsibarium) January 20, 2023

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

---

Those were populist movements. It wasn't some secret back room brain trust that influences unions, it's a popular movement to push this on children that gets its way into public policy. Populism doesn't require a majority of the public, only a tide of sentiment that affects policy. Combined with concentrated power silos, and it can be destructive in a rapid sense. The silos need to be deconstructed or distributed instead of the control battle over a more powerful one.

The philosophical debate can remain, the ability to enforce one version over the other broadly needs to be removed.

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

---

Those were populist movements. It wasn't some secret back room brain trust that influences unions, it's a popular movement to push this on children that gets its way into public policy. Populism doesn't require a majority of the public, only a tide of sentiment that affects policy. Combined with concentrated power silos, and it can be destructive in a rapid sense. The silos need to be deconstructed or distributed instead of the control battle over a more powerful one.

The philosophical debate can remain, the ability to enforce one version over the other broadly needs to be removed.

---

progressivism is not a populist movement. It's an ideological movement among the elite classes, who are being indoctrinated at institutions of higher education. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. There is no widespread popular uprising to put trans-people into the wrong bathroom. There is no widespread movement for drag queens to be brought into elementary schools, or for 13yr old kids to have gender reassignment surgeries, or for schools to become a place where kids can be groomed into trans-lifestyles without the knowledge of their parents. It's 100% top-down. No law legalized it or required it. It's just being done. "Praxis." They're not teaching critical race theory. They're just using societal institutions to apply it. (and making those who disagree turn to politics to stop it.)

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

---

Those were populist movements. It wasn't some secret back room brain trust that influences unions, it's a popular movement to push this on children that gets its way into public policy. Populism doesn't require a majority of the public, only a tide of sentiment that affects policy. Combined with concentrated power silos, and it can be destructive in a rapid sense. The silos need to be deconstructed or distributed instead of the control battle over a more powerful one.

The philosophical debate can remain, the ability to enforce one version over the other broadly needs to be removed.

---

progressivism is not a populist movement. It's an ideological movement among the elite classes, who are being indoctrinated at institutions of higher education. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. There is no widespread popular uprising to put trans-people into the wrong bathroom. There is no widespread movement for drag queens to be brought into elementary schools, or for 13yr old kids to have gender reassignment surgeries, or for schools to become a place where kids can be groomed into trans-lifestyles without the knowledge of their parents. It's 100% top-down. No law legalized it or required it. It's just being done. "Praxis." They're not teaching critical race theory. They're just using societal institutions to apply it. (and making those who disagree turn to politics to stop it.)

---

I disagree on both assertions. Progressivism is a populist movement, and there are strong pockets of populist support for the LGBTQ movement. These are not elites by any stretch of the definition. In fact you're besmirching the term "elite" by categorizing these people as such. Again, populism doesn't have to be large counts or a majority. Just an appeal to people's belief they aren't being served by government or institutions. There's no other way to describe the LGBTQ movement than that. Warped victimhood populism. The fact it's penetrated things like higher education is a reflection of the tide. Society has lost the ability of restraint because you can't act as if something is abnormal and not worthy of promotion, THAT'S the problem. It allows movements like this to take hold,

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

---

Those were populist movements. It wasn't some secret back room brain trust that influences unions, it's a popular movement to push this on children that gets its way into public policy. Populism doesn't require a majority of the public, only a tide of sentiment that affects policy. Combined with concentrated power silos, and it can be destructive in a rapid sense. The silos need to be deconstructed or distributed instead of the control battle over a more powerful one.

The philosophical debate can remain, the ability to enforce one version over the other broadly needs to be removed.

---

progressivism is not a populist movement. It's an ideological movement among the elite classes, who are being indoctrinated at institutions of higher education. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. There is no widespread popular uprising to put trans-people into the wrong bathroom. There is no widespread movement for drag queens to be brought into elementary schools, or for 13yr old kids to have gender reassignment surgeries, or for schools to become a place where kids can be groomed into trans-lifestyles without the knowledge of their parents. It's 100% top-down. No law legalized it or required it. It's just being done. "Praxis." They're not teaching critical race theory. They're just using societal institutions to apply it. (and making those who disagree turn to politics to stop it.)

---

I disagree on both assertions. Progressivism is a populist movement, and there are strong pockets of populist support for the LGBTQ movement. These are not elites by any stretch of the definition. In fact you're besmirching the term "elite" by categorizing these people as such. Again, populism doesn't have to be large counts or a majority. Just an appeal to people's belief they aren't being served by government or institutions. There's no other way to describe the LGBTQ movement than that. Warped victimhood populism. The fact it's penetrated things like higher education is a reflection of the tide. Society has lost the ability of restraint because you can't act as if something is abnormal and not worthy of promotion, THAT'S the problem. It allows movements like this to take hold,

---

LGBTQ+ identifying people counted for less than 3% of the US population until just about the day before yesterday.

It was most certainly a top down movement. The Elite working through academia and the media...and then eventually the law to normalized and popularize this type of sexuality.

Medicaid for all is a populist progressive/leftwing movement....LGBTQ was not.

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

---

Those were populist movements. It wasn't some secret back room brain trust that influences unions, it's a popular movement to push this on children that gets its way into public policy. Populism doesn't require a majority of the public, only a tide of sentiment that affects policy. Combined with concentrated power silos, and it can be destructive in a rapid sense. The silos need to be deconstructed or distributed instead of the control battle over a more powerful one.

The philosophical debate can remain, the ability to enforce one version over the other broadly needs to be removed.

---

progressivism is not a populist movement. It's an ideological movement among the elite classes, who are being indoctrinated at institutions of higher education. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. There is no widespread popular uprising to put trans-people into the wrong bathroom. There is no widespread movement for drag queens to be brought into elementary schools, or for 13yr old kids to have gender reassignment surgeries, or for schools to become a place where kids can be groomed into trans-lifestyles without the knowledge of their parents. It's 100% top-down. No law legalized it or required it. It's just being done. "Praxis." They're not teaching critical race theory. They're just using societal institutions to apply it. (and making those who disagree turn to politics to stop it.)

---

I disagree on both assertions. Progressivism is a populist movement, and there are strong pockets of populist support for the LGBTQ movement. These are not elites by any stretch of the definition. In fact you're besmirching the term "elite" by categorizing these people as such. Again, populism doesn't have to be large counts or a majority. Just an appeal to people's belief they aren't being served by government or institutions. There's no other way to describe the LGBTQ movement than that. Warped victimhood populism. The fact it's penetrated things like higher education is a reflection of the tide. Society has lost the ability of restraint because you can't act as if something is abnormal and not worthy of promotion, THAT'S the problem. It allows movements like this to take hold,

---

LGBTQ+ identifying people counted for less than 3% of the US population until just about the day before yesterday.

It was most certainly a top down movement. The Elite working through academia and the media...and then eventually the law to normalized and popularize this type of sexuality.

Medicaid for all is a populist progressive/leftwing movement....LGBTQ was not.

---

Exactly. University campuses are the elite of the elite. Professors are literally 1%'ers. Most administrators have advanced degrees. And the students are top third of the general population in education. More to the point, universities are the beating heart of post-modernist thought. They are where the philosophical crisis started, where is was pushed, relentlessly. And they are what keep it alive.

Shakespeare was wrong about the lawyers. The professors are the bigger problem.

whiterock said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

---

Those were populist movements. It wasn't some secret back room brain trust that influences unions, it's a popular movement to push this on children that gets its way into public policy. Populism doesn't require a majority of the public, only a tide of sentiment that affects policy. Combined with concentrated power silos, and it can be destructive in a rapid sense. The silos need to be deconstructed or distributed instead of the control battle over a more powerful one.

The philosophical debate can remain, the ability to enforce one version over the other broadly needs to be removed.

---

progressivism is not a populist movement. It's an ideological movement among the elite classes, who are being indoctrinated at institutions of higher education. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. There is no widespread popular uprising to put trans-people into the wrong bathroom. There is no widespread movement for drag queens to be brought into elementary schools, or for 13yr old kids to have gender reassignment surgeries, or for schools to become a place where kids can be groomed into trans-lifestyles without the knowledge of their parents. It's 100% top-down. No law legalized it or required it. It's just being done. "Praxis." They're not teaching critical race theory. They're just using societal institutions to apply it. (and making those who disagree turn to politics to stop it.)

---

I disagree on both assertions. Progressivism is a populist movement, and there are strong pockets of populist support for the LGBTQ movement. These are not elites by any stretch of the definition. In fact you're besmirching the term "elite" by categorizing these people as such. Again, populism doesn't have to be large counts or a majority. Just an appeal to people's belief they aren't being served by government or institutions. There's no other way to describe the LGBTQ movement than that. Warped victimhood populism. The fact it's penetrated things like higher education is a reflection of the tide. Society has lost the ability of restraint because you can't act as if something is abnormal and not worthy of promotion, THAT'S the problem. It allows movements like this to take hold,

---

LGBTQ+ identifying people counted for less than 3% of the US population until just about the day before yesterday.

It was most certainly a top down movement. The Elite working through academia and the media...and then eventually the law to normalized and popularize this type of sexuality.

Medicaid for all is a populist progressive/leftwing movement....LGBTQ was not.

---

Exactly. University campuses are the elite of the elite. Professors are literally 1%'ers. Most administrators have advanced degrees. And the students are top third of the general population in education. More to the point, universities are the beating heart of post-modernist thought. They are where the philosophical crisis started, where is was pushed, relentlessly. And they are what keep it alive.

Shakespeare was wrong about the lawyers. The professors are the bigger problem.

---

Yep

Professors mold the lawyers (and the Hollywood producers, and politicians, and all our other societal elites)

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

---

Those were populist movements. It wasn't some secret back room brain trust that influences unions, it's a popular movement to push this on children that gets its way into public policy. Populism doesn't require a majority of the public, only a tide of sentiment that affects policy. Combined with concentrated power silos, and it can be destructive in a rapid sense. The silos need to be deconstructed or distributed instead of the control battle over a more powerful one.

The philosophical debate can remain, the ability to enforce one version over the other broadly needs to be removed.

---

progressivism is not a populist movement. It's an ideological movement among the elite classes, who are being indoctrinated at institutions of higher education. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. There is no widespread popular uprising to put trans-people into the wrong bathroom. There is no widespread movement for drag queens to be brought into elementary schools, or for 13yr old kids to have gender reassignment surgeries, or for schools to become a place where kids can be groomed into trans-lifestyles without the knowledge of their parents. It's 100% top-down. No law legalized it or required it. It's just being done. "Praxis." They're not teaching critical race theory. They're just using societal institutions to apply it. (and making those who disagree turn to politics to stop it.)

---

I disagree on both assertions. Progressivism is a populist movement, and there are strong pockets of populist support for the LGBTQ movement. These are not elites by any stretch of the definition. In fact you're besmirching the term "elite" by categorizing these people as such. Again, populism doesn't have to be large counts or a majority. Just an appeal to people's belief they aren't being served by government or institutions. There's no other way to describe the LGBTQ movement than that. Warped victimhood populism. The fact it's penetrated things like higher education is a reflection of the tide. Society has lost the ability of restraint because you can't act as if something is abnormal and not worthy of promotion, THAT'S the problem. It allows movements like this to take hold,

---

LGBTQ+ identifying people counted for less than 3% of the US population until just about the day before yesterday.

It was most certainly a top down movement. The Elite working through academia and the media...and then eventually the law to normalized and popularize this type of sexuality.

Medicaid for all is a populist progressive/leftwing movement....LGBTQ was not.

---

Blacks accounted for less than 10% of the US population during the Civil Rights movement. You and whiterock seem to be under the impression that "elites" aren't part of the populism. Universities are easy sprouting grounds because they have a venue and access to large groups. They also are tools for government policy. The cause and number of people who support the LGBTQ movement is much larger than 3%. It is this multiple factor of populism that has carried it to the forefront.

ATL Bear said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

---

Those were populist movements. It wasn't some secret back room brain trust that influences unions, it's a popular movement to push this on children that gets its way into public policy. Populism doesn't require a majority of the public, only a tide of sentiment that affects policy. Combined with concentrated power silos, and it can be destructive in a rapid sense. The silos need to be deconstructed or distributed instead of the control battle over a more powerful one.

The philosophical debate can remain, the ability to enforce one version over the other broadly needs to be removed.

---

progressivism is not a populist movement. It's an ideological movement among the elite classes, who are being indoctrinated at institutions of higher education. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. There is no widespread popular uprising to put trans-people into the wrong bathroom. There is no widespread movement for drag queens to be brought into elementary schools, or for 13yr old kids to have gender reassignment surgeries, or for schools to become a place where kids can be groomed into trans-lifestyles without the knowledge of their parents. It's 100% top-down. No law legalized it or required it. It's just being done. "Praxis." They're not teaching critical race theory. They're just using societal institutions to apply it. (and making those who disagree turn to politics to stop it.)

---

I disagree on both assertions. Progressivism is a populist movement, and there are strong pockets of populist support for the LGBTQ movement. These are not elites by any stretch of the definition. In fact you're besmirching the term "elite" by categorizing these people as such. Again, populism doesn't have to be large counts or a majority. Just an appeal to people's belief they aren't being served by government or institutions. There's no other way to describe the LGBTQ movement than that. Warped victimhood populism. The fact it's penetrated things like higher education is a reflection of the tide. Society has lost the ability of restraint because you can't act as if something is abnormal and not worthy of promotion, THAT'S the problem. It allows movements like this to take hold,

---

LGBTQ+ identifying people counted for less than 3% of the US population until just about the day before yesterday.

It was most certainly a top down movement. The Elite working through academia and the media...and then eventually the law to normalized and popularize this type of sexuality.

Medicaid for all is a populist progressive/leftwing movement....LGBTQ was not.

---

Blacks accounted for less than 10% of the US population during the Civil Rights movement. You and whiterock seem to be under the impression that "elites" aren't part of the populism. Universities are easy sprouting grounds because they have a venue and access to large groups. They also are tools for government policy. The cause and number of people who support the LGBTQ movement is much larger than 3%. It is this multiple factor of populism that has carried it to the forefront.

---

You will get no argument from me that the 1960s civil rights movement was a top down phenomena.

The vast majority of voters in the South (and the North) did not want forced integration of their schools and neighborhoods at the end of a national guardsman's bayonet.

The Supreme Court, the corporate Media, and the powers that be made that revolution…then claimed it was populist.

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

---

Those were populist movements. It wasn't some secret back room brain trust that influences unions, it's a popular movement to push this on children that gets its way into public policy. Populism doesn't require a majority of the public, only a tide of sentiment that affects policy. Combined with concentrated power silos, and it can be destructive in a rapid sense. The silos need to be deconstructed or distributed instead of the control battle over a more powerful one.

The philosophical debate can remain, the ability to enforce one version over the other broadly needs to be removed.

---

progressivism is not a populist movement. It's an ideological movement among the elite classes, who are being indoctrinated at institutions of higher education. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. There is no widespread popular uprising to put trans-people into the wrong bathroom. There is no widespread movement for drag queens to be brought into elementary schools, or for 13yr old kids to have gender reassignment surgeries, or for schools to become a place where kids can be groomed into trans-lifestyles without the knowledge of their parents. It's 100% top-down. No law legalized it or required it. It's just being done. "Praxis." They're not teaching critical race theory. They're just using societal institutions to apply it. (and making those who disagree turn to politics to stop it.)

---

I disagree on both assertions. Progressivism is a populist movement, and there are strong pockets of populist support for the LGBTQ movement. These are not elites by any stretch of the definition. In fact you're besmirching the term "elite" by categorizing these people as such. Again, populism doesn't have to be large counts or a majority. Just an appeal to people's belief they aren't being served by government or institutions. There's no other way to describe the LGBTQ movement than that. Warped victimhood populism. The fact it's penetrated things like higher education is a reflection of the tide. Society has lost the ability of restraint because you can't act as if something is abnormal and not worthy of promotion, THAT'S the problem. It allows movements like this to take hold,

---

LGBTQ+ identifying people counted for less than 3% of the US population until just about the day before yesterday.

It was most certainly a top down movement. The Elite working through academia and the media...and then eventually the law to normalized and popularize this type of sexuality.

Medicaid for all is a populist progressive/leftwing movement....LGBTQ was not.

---

Blacks accounted for less than 10% of the US population during the Civil Rights movement. You and whiterock seem to be under the impression that "elites" aren't part of the populism. Universities are easy sprouting grounds because they have a venue and access to large groups. They also are tools for government policy. The cause and number of people who support the LGBTQ movement is much larger than 3%. It is this multiple factor of populism that has carried it to the forefront.

---

You will get no argument from me that the 1960s civil rights movement was a top down phenomena.

The vast majority of voters in the South (and the North) did not want forced integration of their schools and neighborhoods at the end of a national guardsman's bayonet.

The Supreme Court, the corporate Media, and the powers that be made that revolution…then claimed it was populist.

---

The Civil Rights movement started well before the 1960's. The LGBTQ movement is a progression from the gay rights movement of the 70's. Like the Civil Rights movement, academia picked it up later. Welcome to populism.

ATL Bear said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

---

Those were populist movements. It wasn't some secret back room brain trust that influences unions, it's a popular movement to push this on children that gets its way into public policy. Populism doesn't require a majority of the public, only a tide of sentiment that affects policy. Combined with concentrated power silos, and it can be destructive in a rapid sense. The silos need to be deconstructed or distributed instead of the control battle over a more powerful one.

The philosophical debate can remain, the ability to enforce one version over the other broadly needs to be removed.

---

progressivism is not a populist movement. It's an ideological movement among the elite classes, who are being indoctrinated at institutions of higher education. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. There is no widespread popular uprising to put trans-people into the wrong bathroom. There is no widespread movement for drag queens to be brought into elementary schools, or for 13yr old kids to have gender reassignment surgeries, or for schools to become a place where kids can be groomed into trans-lifestyles without the knowledge of their parents. It's 100% top-down. No law legalized it or required it. It's just being done. "Praxis." They're not teaching critical race theory. They're just using societal institutions to apply it. (and making those who disagree turn to politics to stop it.)

---

I disagree on both assertions. Progressivism is a populist movement, and there are strong pockets of populist support for the LGBTQ movement. These are not elites by any stretch of the definition. In fact you're besmirching the term "elite" by categorizing these people as such. Again, populism doesn't have to be large counts or a majority. Just an appeal to people's belief they aren't being served by government or institutions. There's no other way to describe the LGBTQ movement than that. Warped victimhood populism. The fact it's penetrated things like higher education is a reflection of the tide. Society has lost the ability of restraint because you can't act as if something is abnormal and not worthy of promotion, THAT'S the problem. It allows movements like this to take hold,

---

LGBTQ+ identifying people counted for less than 3% of the US population until just about the day before yesterday.

It was most certainly a top down movement. The Elite working through academia and the media...and then eventually the law to normalized and popularize this type of sexuality.

Medicaid for all is a populist progressive/leftwing movement....LGBTQ was not.

---

Blacks accounted for less than 10% of the US population during the Civil Rights movement. You and whiterock seem to be under the impression that "elites" aren't part of the populism. Universities are easy sprouting grounds because they have a venue and access to large groups. They also are tools for government policy. The cause and number of people who support the LGBTQ movement is much larger than 3%. It is this multiple factor of populism that has carried it to the forefront.

---

You will get no argument from me that the 1960s civil rights movement was a top down phenomena.

The vast majority of voters in the South (and the North) did not want forced integration of their schools and neighborhoods at the end of a national guardsman's bayonet.

The Supreme Court, the corporate Media, and the powers that be made that revolution…then claimed it was populist.

---

The Civil Rights movement started well before the 1960's. The LGBTQ movement is a progression from the gay rights movement of the 70's. Like the Civil Rights movement, academia picked it up later. Welcome to populism.

---

Naw..welcome to elite top down movements that use populism/protest as a veneer for societal change the elites wanted.

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

---

Those were populist movements. It wasn't some secret back room brain trust that influences unions, it's a popular movement to push this on children that gets its way into public policy. Populism doesn't require a majority of the public, only a tide of sentiment that affects policy. Combined with concentrated power silos, and it can be destructive in a rapid sense. The silos need to be deconstructed or distributed instead of the control battle over a more powerful one.

The philosophical debate can remain, the ability to enforce one version over the other broadly needs to be removed.

---

progressivism is not a populist movement. It's an ideological movement among the elite classes, who are being indoctrinated at institutions of higher education. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. There is no widespread popular uprising to put trans-people into the wrong bathroom. There is no widespread movement for drag queens to be brought into elementary schools, or for 13yr old kids to have gender reassignment surgeries, or for schools to become a place where kids can be groomed into trans-lifestyles without the knowledge of their parents. It's 100% top-down. No law legalized it or required it. It's just being done. "Praxis." They're not teaching critical race theory. They're just using societal institutions to apply it. (and making those who disagree turn to politics to stop it.)

---

I disagree on both assertions. Progressivism is a populist movement, and there are strong pockets of populist support for the LGBTQ movement. These are not elites by any stretch of the definition. In fact you're besmirching the term "elite" by categorizing these people as such. Again, populism doesn't have to be large counts or a majority. Just an appeal to people's belief they aren't being served by government or institutions. There's no other way to describe the LGBTQ movement than that. Warped victimhood populism. The fact it's penetrated things like higher education is a reflection of the tide. Society has lost the ability of restraint because you can't act as if something is abnormal and not worthy of promotion, THAT'S the problem. It allows movements like this to take hold,

---

LGBTQ+ identifying people counted for less than 3% of the US population until just about the day before yesterday.

It was most certainly a top down movement. The Elite working through academia and the media...and then eventually the law to normalized and popularize this type of sexuality.

Medicaid for all is a populist progressive/leftwing movement....LGBTQ was not.

---

Blacks accounted for less than 10% of the US population during the Civil Rights movement. You and whiterock seem to be under the impression that "elites" aren't part of the populism. Universities are easy sprouting grounds because they have a venue and access to large groups. They also are tools for government policy. The cause and number of people who support the LGBTQ movement is much larger than 3%. It is this multiple factor of populism that has carried it to the forefront.

---

You will get no argument from me that the 1960s civil rights movement was a top down phenomena.

The vast majority of voters in the South (and the North) did not want forced integration of their schools and neighborhoods at the end of a national guardsman's bayonet.

The Supreme Court, the corporate Media, and the powers that be made that revolution…then claimed it was populist.

---

The Civil Rights movement started well before the 1960's. The LGBTQ movement is a progression from the gay rights movement of the 70's. Like the Civil Rights movement, academia picked it up later. Welcome to populism.

---

Naw..welcome to elite top down movements that use populism/protest as a veneer for societal change the elites wanted.

---

You're almost there. Populism is taken advantage of to provide opportunities for power, money, prestige, etc. by those who are in a position to manipulate it.

ATL Bear said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

---

Those were populist movements. It wasn't some secret back room brain trust that influences unions, it's a popular movement to push this on children that gets its way into public policy. Populism doesn't require a majority of the public, only a tide of sentiment that affects policy. Combined with concentrated power silos, and it can be destructive in a rapid sense. The silos need to be deconstructed or distributed instead of the control battle over a more powerful one.

The philosophical debate can remain, the ability to enforce one version over the other broadly needs to be removed.

---

progressivism is not a populist movement. It's an ideological movement among the elite classes, who are being indoctrinated at institutions of higher education. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. There is no widespread popular uprising to put trans-people into the wrong bathroom. There is no widespread movement for drag queens to be brought into elementary schools, or for 13yr old kids to have gender reassignment surgeries, or for schools to become a place where kids can be groomed into trans-lifestyles without the knowledge of their parents. It's 100% top-down. No law legalized it or required it. It's just being done. "Praxis." They're not teaching critical race theory. They're just using societal institutions to apply it. (and making those who disagree turn to politics to stop it.)

---

I disagree on both assertions. Progressivism is a populist movement, and there are strong pockets of populist support for the LGBTQ movement. These are not elites by any stretch of the definition. In fact you're besmirching the term "elite" by categorizing these people as such. Again, populism doesn't have to be large counts or a majority. Just an appeal to people's belief they aren't being served by government or institutions. There's no other way to describe the LGBTQ movement than that. Warped victimhood populism. The fact it's penetrated things like higher education is a reflection of the tide. Society has lost the ability of restraint because you can't act as if something is abnormal and not worthy of promotion, THAT'S the problem. It allows movements like this to take hold,

---

LGBTQ+ identifying people counted for less than 3% of the US population until just about the day before yesterday.

It was most certainly a top down movement. The Elite working through academia and the media...and then eventually the law to normalized and popularize this type of sexuality.

Medicaid for all is a populist progressive/leftwing movement....LGBTQ was not.

---

Blacks accounted for less than 10% of the US population during the Civil Rights movement. You and whiterock seem to be under the impression that "elites" aren't part of the populism. Universities are easy sprouting grounds because they have a venue and access to large groups. They also are tools for government policy. The cause and number of people who support the LGBTQ movement is much larger than 3%. It is this multiple factor of populism that has carried it to the forefront.

---

You will get no argument from me that the 1960s civil rights movement was a top down phenomena.

The vast majority of voters in the South (and the North) did not want forced integration of their schools and neighborhoods at the end of a national guardsman's bayonet.

The Supreme Court, the corporate Media, and the powers that be made that revolution…then claimed it was populist.

---

The Civil Rights movement started well before the 1960's. The LGBTQ movement is a progression from the gay rights movement of the 70's. Like the Civil Rights movement, academia picked it up later. Welcome to populism.

---

Naw..welcome to elite top down movements that use populism/protest as a veneer for societal change the elites wanted.

---

You're almost there. Populism is taken advantage of to provide opportunities for power, money, prestige, etc. by those who are in a position to manipulate it.

---

How did this conversation get hijacked by civil rights? CR was actual, formal, legal oppression in one region of the country that large percentages of the rest of the country found objectionable, a super-majority by the 1950s. Really not a part of the elites/masses topic under discussion. A great example of how democratic process is supposed to work in a self-governed free society.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/01/16/50-years-ago-mixed-views-about-civil-rights-but-support-for-selma-demonstrators/

The alphabet people do not have a scintilla of the systemic oppression blacks faced, yet elites are shoving Queer Theory down the throats of a largely indifferent and increasingly resistant society. Nobody wants LGBT-ites to be any more unhappy than they already are. Nobody wants them in jail or otherwise segregated. But that's not good enough. Elites are demanding ratification of the lifestyle/ideology, or else.

I would be surprised if a black person reading this latter portion of this thread wouldn't find the patent false equivalence at play here to be amusing, or worse.

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

whiterock said:

---

Look at HB's "Clown World" thread. No statute or executive order order made that change happen.

---

Ironically that change is related to HHS rules under new gender and sex discrimination requirements. Look up HHS section 1557 regs.

---

Think not. Just updated info at three different medical practices this month. Forms still binary. Not all regs are requirement. Many are guidance.

No statute requires DEI. Or CRT. Or Queer Theory. Or praxis of same in public schools. Teachers unions are primary driving forces, with sympathetic administrators, who go to workshops held by interest PACs, all of which (and more) make it very difficult for a school board to do anything to stop it (even were they so inclined, which until recently they were not). Examples abound throughout society. (particularly VA, where praxis in public schools was literally the driving force in Youngkin's win.)

I do not disagree with your point that govt overreach in general and expanding executive power specifically is a problem. I'm merely trying to point out that the problem is far larger than that. Most OTHER societal institutions are either pursuing progressive partisan agendas, or pandering to them, in ways that make it very, very difficult for the electorate to have its grievances redressed.

Populism is never a problem of enchantment of masses by some glib Pied Piper, as societal elites need to believe. There is always an underlying discontent that has gone long addressed. On the left, the loud voices get co-opted. On the right, they get cancelled. It is the purpose of societal institutions to diffuse and moderate such tensions, to rise above politics and build a sense of community, to remind us that the political issue of the day is not necessarily the most important. Today, fewer are fewer societal institutions are fulfilling that role. (or slowly withering away.) Increasingly, they are joining one agenda or the other (mostly progressive). That is an enormous problem, and the single biggest factor why we saw personages like Trump and Sanders in 2016. Nothing has quelled that energy. It lays there, unrequited. Even the centrists are increasingly disgustipated at what the future holds After 4 years of Trump, and 4 years of Biden, the electorate is at a "you mean I shaved my legs for this? moment. (see that dynamic here on this board).

We have lost a common understanding of the common good. And policy is not serving the needs of ordinary people.
THAT is why we see surging populism.

---

You are missing the argument and reality. School boards are government institutions. Populism functions in large and small venues. The "cabal of elites" is a deflection from underlying social tides. There are people who are discontented with LGBT issues who promote these inclusionary policies. That's how the power dynamic is pushed, and the most dangerous mechanism is the executive branch due to its breadth of authority. The fact it is also pushed through local and state government institutions is an extension of the same problem of government over reach.

---

your views are part of the problem. You are so insistent on describing govt as the problem, you completely ignore Andrew Breitbart's dictum - "politics is downstream of culture."

yes, technically, schools are government. But they are ostensibly non-partisan, right? Are they really? They're supposed to be non-partisan so that communities can hire/fire teachers, not in order to more efficiently indoctrinate kids. They're there to make sure a community can raise the funds to teach kids, and supervise the proper use of those funds. A government entity, for sure, but quite a bit different than a congress. But rather nakedly today, schools are doing the latter function - indoctrination of children to highly controversial ideological notions far out on one end of the political spectrum.. More to the point, though, it's not the school board ordering or even directing the indoctrination. It's those societal institutions you keep ignoring. The teacher' unions. The Texas Association of School Boards. Those institutions are who trains school board members and teachers. And the progressive left OWNS them. My BU grad daughter-in-law wasn't taught Queer Theory by school administrators. It was at a Teacher Union workshop.

Here's a great article on what you're missing.
https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-failure-of-political-community/


Our problems with government are more accurately described as derivative than causative. We are in the middle of a philosophical crisis over the meanings of things, right down to something as simple as what is a boy and what is a girl.

---

Those were populist movements. It wasn't some secret back room brain trust that influences unions, it's a popular movement to push this on children that gets its way into public policy. Populism doesn't require a majority of the public, only a tide of sentiment that affects policy. Combined with concentrated power silos, and it can be destructive in a rapid sense. The silos need to be deconstructed or distributed instead of the control battle over a more powerful one.

The philosophical debate can remain, the ability to enforce one version over the other broadly needs to be removed.

---

progressivism is not a populist movement. It's an ideological movement among the elite classes, who are being indoctrinated at institutions of higher education. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. There is no widespread popular uprising to put trans-people into the wrong bathroom. There is no widespread movement for drag queens to be brought into elementary schools, or for 13yr old kids to have gender reassignment surgeries, or for schools to become a place where kids can be groomed into trans-lifestyles without the knowledge of their parents. It's 100% top-down. No law legalized it or required it. It's just being done. "Praxis." They're not teaching critical race theory. They're just using societal institutions to apply it. (and making those who disagree turn to politics to stop it.)

---

I disagree on both assertions. Progressivism is a populist movement, and there are strong pockets of populist support for the LGBTQ movement. These are not elites by any stretch of the definition. In fact you're besmirching the term "elite" by categorizing these people as such. Again, populism doesn't have to be large counts or a majority. Just an appeal to people's belief they aren't being served by government or institutions. There's no other way to describe the LGBTQ movement than that. Warped victimhood populism. The fact it's penetrated things like higher education is a reflection of the tide. Society has lost the ability of restraint because you can't act as if something is abnormal and not worthy of promotion, THAT'S the problem. It allows movements like this to take hold,

---

LGBTQ+ identifying people counted for less than 3% of the US population until just about the day before yesterday.

It was most certainly a top down movement. The Elite working through academia and the media...and then eventually the law to normalized and popularize this type of sexuality.

Medicaid for all is a populist progressive/leftwing movement....LGBTQ was not.

---

Blacks accounted for less than 10% of the US population during the Civil Rights movement. You and whiterock seem to be under the impression that "elites" aren't part of the populism. Universities are easy sprouting grounds because they have a venue and access to large groups. They also are tools for government policy. The cause and number of people who support the LGBTQ movement is much larger than 3%. It is this multiple factor of populism that has carried it to the forefront.

---

You will get no argument from me that the 1960s civil rights movement was a top down phenomena.

The vast majority of voters in the South (and the North) did not want forced integration of their schools and neighborhoods at the end of a national guardsman's bayonet.

The Supreme Court, the corporate Media, and the powers that be made that revolution…then claimed it was populist.

---

The Civil Rights movement started well before the 1960's. The LGBTQ movement is a progression from the gay rights movement of the 70's. Like the Civil Rights movement, academia picked it up later. Welcome to populism.

---

Naw..welcome to elite top down movements that use populism/protest as a veneer for societal change the elites wanted.

---

You're almost there. Populism is taken advantage of to provide opportunities for power, money, prestige, etc. by those who are in a position to manipulate it.

---

How did this conversation get hijacked by civil rights? CR was actual, formal, legal oppression in one region of the country that large percentages of the rest of the country found objectionable, a super-majority by the 1950s. Really not a part of the elites/masses topic under discussion. A great example of how democratic process is supposed to work in a self-governed free society.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/01/16/50-years-ago-mixed-views-about-civil-rights-but-support-for-selma-demonstrators/

The alphabet people do not have a scintilla of the systemic oppression blacks faced, yet elites are shoving Queer Theory down the throats of a largely indifferent and increasingly resistant society. Nobody wants LGBT-ites to be any more unhappy than they already are. Nobody wants them in jail or otherwise segregated. But that's not good enough. Elites are demanding ratification of the lifestyle/ideology, or else.

I would be surprised if a black person reading this latter portion of this thread wouldn't find the patent false equivalence at play here to be amusing, or worse.

---

I'm not arguing equivalence at all. In fact agree whole heartedly they are not by any measure of principle. This is about populism, and how a minority percentage of the population (RB referenced 3% for the LGBT population) can garner enough support to push social change in a broad sense, including in negative directions like with the LGBTQ moment. What started as trying to lift laws on the restrictions of private behavior, progressed to marrying who you want, and now to today's insanity is a populist tide gone awry. It didn't start as a top down movement, but has certainly been manipulated by "elites" as it has become more accepted in society at large,

The truth is this conversation has gone tangential from the original issue of how concentrated power structures and populism can be very dangerous combinations. Especially with a single elected position with broad executive authority. My answer is to reduce that authority. You seem to advocate populist uprising to use it for alternative purposes. Call me old school, but I like constitutional republics more than democracies.

ATL Bear said:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

I disagree on both assertions. Progressivism is a populist movement, and there are strong pockets of populist support for the LGBTQ movement. These are not elites by any stretch of the definition. In fact you're besmirching the term "elite" by categorizing these people as such. Again, populism doesn't have to be large counts or a majority. Just an appeal to people's belief they aren't being served by government or institutions. There's no other way to describe the LGBTQ movement than that. Warped victimhood populism. The fact it's penetrated things like higher education is a reflection of the tide. Society has lost the ability of restraint because you can't act as if something is abnormal and not worthy of promotion, THAT'S the problem. It allows movements like this to take hold,

---

LGBTQ+ identifying people counted for less than 3% of the US population until just about the day before yesterday.

It was most certainly a top down movement. The Elite working through academia and the media...and then eventually the law to normalized and popularize this type of sexuality.

Medicaid for all is a populist progressive/leftwing movement....LGBTQ was not.

---

Blacks accounted for less than 10% of the US population during the Civil Rights movement. You and whiterock seem to be under the impression that "elites" aren't part of the populism. Universities are easy sprouting grounds because they have a venue and access to large groups. They also are tools for government policy. The cause and number of people who support the LGBTQ movement is much larger than 3%. It is this multiple factor of populism that has carried it to the forefront.

---

You will get no argument from me that the 1960s civil rights movement was a top down phenomena.

The vast majority of voters in the South (and the North) did not want forced integration of their schools and neighborhoods at the end of a national guardsman's bayonet.

The Supreme Court, the corporate Media, and the powers that be made that revolution…then claimed it was populist.

---

The Civil Rights movement started well before the 1960's. The LGBTQ movement is a progression from the gay rights movement of the 70's. Like the Civil Rights movement, academia picked it up later. Welcome to populism.

---

Naw..welcome to elite top down movements that use populism/protest as a veneer for societal change the elites wanted.

---

You're almost there. Populism is taken advantage of to provide opportunities for power, money, prestige, etc. by those who are in a position to manipulate it.

---

How did this conversation get hijacked by civil rights? CR was actual, formal, legal oppression in one region of the country that large percentages of the rest of the country found objectionable, a super-majority by the 1950s. Really not a part of the elites/masses topic under discussion. A great example of how democratic process is supposed to work in a self-governed free society.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/01/16/50-years-ago-mixed-views-about-civil-rights-but-support-for-selma-demonstrators/

The alphabet people do not have a scintilla of the systemic oppression blacks faced, yet elites are shoving Queer Theory down the throats of a largely indifferent and increasingly resistant society. Nobody wants LGBT-ites to be any more unhappy than they already are. Nobody wants them in jail or otherwise segregated. But that's not good enough. Elites are demanding ratification of the lifestyle/ideology, or else.

I would be surprised if a black person reading this latter portion of this thread wouldn't find the patent false equivalence at play here to be amusing, or worse.

---

I'm not arguing equivalence at all. In fact agree whole heartedly they are not by any measure of principle. This is about populism, and how a minority percentage of the population (RB referenced 3% for the LGBT population) can garner enough support to push social change in a broad sense, including in negative directions like with the LGBTQ moment. What started as trying to lift laws on the restrictions of private behavior, progressed to marrying who you want, and now to today's insanity is a populist tide gone awry. It didn't start as a top down movement, but has certainly been manipulated by "elites" as it has become more accepted in society at large,

The truth is this conversation has gone tangential from the original issue of how concentrated power structures and populism can be very dangerous combinations. Especially with a single elected position with broad executive authority. My answer is to reduce that authority. You seem to advocate populist uprising to use it for alternative purposes. Call me old school, but I like constitutional republics more than democracies.

---

See bolded. You are not describing populism. You are describing ACTIVISM.

Definition of populism from the Cambridge Dictionary
populism
noun [url=https://dictionary.cambridge.org/help/codes.html][ U ][/url]
politics, mainly disapproving
/pp.j.l.zm/ us
/p.pj.l.zm/
political ideas and activities that are intended to get the support of ordinary people by giving them what they want.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/populism


Populism happens when power structures, to include societal institutions, fail to address the needs of ordinary people. The LGBTQ agenda is not an example of populism, but rather the kind of nonsense power structures engage in, often as simple virtue posture, rather than dealing with ordinary problems like the price of eggs, gasoline, electricity, rent....or an out of control border causing a range of social pathologies in middle and working class communities. Sometimes elites engage in such to distract ordinary people from every day problems. But, sometimes, elites engage in such because they are simply out of touch. We have a little of both going on. The latter is far more serious.

By definition, populism is not the agitations (activism) of tiny slivers of the population. Populism happens when a bunch of those slivers come together, coalesce, and start threatening power structures by sheer weight of numbers. THAT'S when you start hearing societal elites start using the "p" word. By definition, 3% of the population are not a populist movement. For sure, the 3% is always trying to APPEAR to be a populist movement. They do this by organizing and acting in a number of attention grabbing ways.....picketing places, blocking streets, breaking windows, burning buildings, defacing public art...... But none of that would be necessary if they or their views represented a substantial percentage of the population. To actually BE a populist movement, one actually has to represent the desires of ordinary people, at least a plurality of the population.

That's why BLM was pandered to, and MAGA is actively repressed. BLM is astroturf, organized to support a partisan agenda. Like most astroturf movments, it exploded to popularity, then waned sharply back to irrelevance. MAGA, on the other hand, is almost half the country, not organized but simply appealed to. It's ability to elect such a non-traditional candidate out of nowhere alarms established power structures. they simply cannot understand it, and reflexively resist it, without really pausing to consider cause/effect. And, of course, that opposition is strongly focused on the personality of the individual at the head of the movement. Because it's not astroturf, it is durable.


"Populism is a word rarely heard unless societal elites have screwed up."
The more shrill the bleating, the more true that statement is.

whiterock said:

---

ATL Bear said:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

I disagree on both assertions. Progressivism is a populist movement, and there are strong pockets of populist support for the LGBTQ movement. These are not elites by any stretch of the definition. In fact you're besmirching the term "elite" by categorizing these people as such. Again, populism doesn't have to be large counts or a majority. Just an appeal to people's belief they aren't being served by government or institutions. There's no other way to describe the LGBTQ movement than that. Warped victimhood populism. The fact it's penetrated things like higher education is a reflection of the tide. Society has lost the ability of restraint because you can't act as if something is abnormal and not worthy of promotion, THAT'S the problem. It allows movements like this to take hold,

---

LGBTQ+ identifying people counted for less than 3% of the US population until just about the day before yesterday.

It was most certainly a top down movement. The Elite working through academia and the media...and then eventually the law to normalized and popularize this type of sexuality.

Medicaid for all is a populist progressive/leftwing movement....LGBTQ was not.

---

Blacks accounted for less than 10% of the US population during the Civil Rights movement. You and whiterock seem to be under the impression that "elites" aren't part of the populism. Universities are easy sprouting grounds because they have a venue and access to large groups. They also are tools for government policy. The cause and number of people who support the LGBTQ movement is much larger than 3%. It is this multiple factor of populism that has carried it to the forefront.

---

You will get no argument from me that the 1960s civil rights movement was a top down phenomena.

The vast majority of voters in the South (and the North) did not want forced integration of their schools and neighborhoods at the end of a national guardsman's bayonet.

The Supreme Court, the corporate Media, and the powers that be made that revolution…then claimed it was populist.

---

The Civil Rights movement started well before the 1960's. The LGBTQ movement is a progression from the gay rights movement of the 70's. Like the Civil Rights movement, academia picked it up later. Welcome to populism.

---

Naw..welcome to elite top down movements that use populism/protest as a veneer for societal change the elites wanted.

---

You're almost there. Populism is taken advantage of to provide opportunities for power, money, prestige, etc. by those who are in a position to manipulate it.

---

How did this conversation get hijacked by civil rights? CR was actual, formal, legal oppression in one region of the country that large percentages of the rest of the country found objectionable, a super-majority by the 1950s. Really not a part of the elites/masses topic under discussion. A great example of how democratic process is supposed to work in a self-governed free society.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/01/16/50-years-ago-mixed-views-about-civil-rights-but-support-for-selma-demonstrators/

The alphabet people do not have a scintilla of the systemic oppression blacks faced, yet elites are shoving Queer Theory down the throats of a largely indifferent and increasingly resistant society. Nobody wants LGBT-ites to be any more unhappy than they already are. Nobody wants them in jail or otherwise segregated. But that's not good enough. Elites are demanding ratification of the lifestyle/ideology, or else.

I would be surprised if a black person reading this latter portion of this thread wouldn't find the patent false equivalence at play here to be amusing, or worse.

---

I'm not arguing equivalence at all. In fact agree whole heartedly they are not by any measure of principle. This is about populism, and how a minority percentage of the population (RB referenced 3% for the LGBT population) can garner enough support to push social change in a broad sense, including in negative directions like with the LGBTQ moment. What started as trying to lift laws on the restrictions of private behavior, progressed to marrying who you want, and now to today's insanity is a populist tide gone awry. It didn't start as a top down movement, but has certainly been manipulated by "elites" as it has become more accepted in society at large,

The truth is this conversation has gone tangential from the original issue of how concentrated power structures and populism can be very dangerous combinations. Especially with a single elected position with broad executive authority. My answer is to reduce that authority. You seem to advocate populist uprising to use it for alternative purposes. Call me old school, but I like constitutional republics more than democracies.

---

See bolded. You are not describing populism. You are describing ACTIVISM.

Definition of populism from the Cambridge Dictionary
populism
noun [url=https://dictionary.cambridge.org/help/codes.html][ U ][/url]
politics, mainly disapproving
/pp.j.l.zm/ us
/p.pj.l.zm/
political ideas and activities that are intended to get the support of ordinary people by giving them what they want.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/populism


Populism happens when power structures, to include societal institutions, fail to address the needs of ordinary people. The LGBTQ agenda is not an example of populism, but rather the kind of nonsense power structures engage in, often as simple virtue posture, rather than dealing with ordinary problems like the price of eggs, gasoline, electricity, rent....or an out of control border causing a range of social pathologies in middle and working class communities. Sometimes elites engage in such to distract ordinary people from every day problems. But, sometimes, elites engage in such because they are simply out of touch. We have a little of both going on. The latter is far more serious.

By definition, populism is not the agitations (activism) of tiny slivers of the population. Populism happens when a bunch of those slivers come together, coalesce, and start threatening power structures by sheer weight of numbers. THAT'S when you start hearing societal elites start using the "p" word. By definition, 3% of the population are not a populist movement. For sure, the 3% is always trying to APPEAR to be a populist movement. They do this by organizing and acting in a number of attention grabbing ways.....picketing places, blocking streets, breaking windows, burning buildings, defacing public art...... But none of that would be necessary if they or their views represented a substantial percentage of the population. To actually BE a populist movement, one actually has to represent the desires of ordinary people, at least a plurality of the population.

That's why BLM was pandered to, and MAGA is actively repressed. BLM is astroturf, organized to support a partisan agenda. Like most astroturf movments, it exploded to popularity, then waned sharply back to irrelevance. MAGA, on the other hand, is almost half the country, not organized but simply appealed to. It's ability to elect such a non-traditional candidate out of nowhere alarms established power structures. they simply cannot understand it, and reflexively resist it, without really pausing to consider cause/effect. And, of course, that opposition is strongly focused on the personality of the individual at the head of the movement. Because it's not astroturf, it is durable.


"Populism is a word rarely heard unless societal elites have screwed up."
The more shrill the bleating, the more true that statement is.

---

I'm sorry, but it is populism. The arguments you are making are nearly identical to the social promoters of the movements in question. Activism is just one of many methods used by populists to gain support.

Where you focus on academic and media "elites", they target the wealthy, politicians, churches and many others who are their "elites" controlling the system (patriarchal, white supremacist, homophobic, etc.) that is repressing them. It is competing populism. There is a common populist coalition of the left that drives their rise to power.