D. C. Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Assassin said:

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KaiBear said:

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Assassin said:

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KaiBear said:

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Assassin said:

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The deal is done between Israel and Gaza/Hamas

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Looks as if the remaining living hostages have been released...the deal is in fact done.

And sources throughout the Middle East are crediting..............


Trump's successful destruction of Iran's nuclear bomb capability as the critical piece of the equation.

We are witnessing historical leadership.

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He is gonna win the Nobel Prize, for sure...

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Doubt it.

Far more likely Trump will be assassinated.

He is becoming more popular; more accomplished by the day.

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There is simply no one else that has accomplished as much as Trump has done so far. And there is a chance that Russia-Ukraine may be his 9th war that he ended.

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The assassination point is valid. The left has grown too intolerant to suffer the reality he has shoved in their faces. They will likely try again.

To understand how the islamic world will see this.....
Islam divides the world into "realms." The dar al islam (realm of peace). The dar al harb (realm of peace). and so on, all organized around the division of whether sharia is the law of the land (dar al islam) or not (any of several realms). One is the "dar al ahd" (realm of treaty). It is pragmatic....sometimes, islamic forces are exhaused. Sometimes, they are losing. A truce can give them time to recover and renew the push....just don't take the easy route and make the truce permanent. Ergo, a treaty can only last a max of 10yrs, after which time muslims are obligated to return to war.

So the idea of a treaty with infidels is hardly inconsistent with even extreme interpretations of islam. And by getting virtually all of the islamic countries to sign a treaty with Israel, he's using islam against islam....forcing islamic sovereign powers to do things the Koran specifically allows. And now he's invited Iran in.

Peak American power. Awesome demonstration. The Arabs can read the situation. Peak American power. Awesome demonstration in Syria, Iran, etc.... None of them want to face that. They want to ally with it. Trump's team definitely understand the subject material. If Hamas starts up again, the whole islamic world will have Sharia-based justification for shutting them down.

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This summary of Islamic views is a mess. More to the point, Israel and Hamas haven't agreed to anything except a ceasefire. It's not even the first one this year, much less the first in history.

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You have no idea what you're talking about.

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If this falls through, will you admit you just made up a bunch of bs?

Why anyone would think a bunch terrorists are going to 100% honor this particular peace deal is beyond me.

One thing I can guarantee is that "peak American power" has never, ever crossed the minds of Hamas leaders.

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It isn't Hamas that matters here, it's the nations in the region. Hamas is like a tumor, the surrounding nations are the blood supply.

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KaiBear said:

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This truce has a real chance of working only because the other Muslim countries ( except Iran ) are part of the deal.

If Hamas doesn't play......their money sources are long gone.

And Iran's only card was the threat of nuclear war.......and that has been eliminated.

BTW its amusing to read / hear those who hate Trump so badly they are clearly hoping the killing resumes.

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Assassin said:

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KaiBear said:

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Assassin said:

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KaiBear said:

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Assassin said:

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The deal is done between Israel and Gaza/Hamas

---

Looks as if the remaining living hostages have been released...the deal is in fact done.

And sources throughout the Middle East are crediting..............


Trump's successful destruction of Iran's nuclear bomb capability as the critical piece of the equation.

We are witnessing historical leadership.

---

He is gonna win the Nobel Prize, for sure...

---

Doubt it.

Far more likely Trump will be assassinated.

He is becoming more popular; more accomplished by the day.

---

There is simply no one else that has accomplished as much as Trump has done so far. And there is a chance that Russia-Ukraine may be his 9th war that he ended.

---

The assassination point is valid. The left has grown too intolerant to suffer the reality he has shoved in their faces. They will likely try again.

To understand how the islamic world will see this.....
Islam divides the world into "realms." The dar al islam (realm of peace). The dar al harb (realm of peace). and so on, all organized around the division of whether sharia is the law of the land (dar al islam) or not (any of several realms). One is the "dar al ahd" (realm of treaty). It is pragmatic....sometimes, islamic forces are exhaused. Sometimes, they are losing. A truce can give them time to recover and renew the push....just don't take the easy route and make the truce permanent. Ergo, a treaty can only last a max of 10yrs, after which time muslims are obligated to return to war.

So the idea of a treaty with infidels is hardly inconsistent with even extreme interpretations of islam. And by getting virtually all of the islamic countries to sign a treaty with Israel, he's using islam against islam....forcing islamic sovereign powers to do things the Koran specifically allows. And now he's invited Iran in.

Peak American power. Awesome demonstration. The Arabs can read the situation. Peak American power. Awesome demonstration in Syria, Iran, etc.... None of them want to face that. They want to ally with it. Trump's team definitely understand the subject material. If Hamas starts up again, the whole islamic world will have Sharia-based justification for shutting them down.

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This summary of Islamic views is a mess. More to the point, Israel and Hamas haven't agreed to anything except a ceasefire. It's not even the first one this year, much less the first in history.

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You have no idea what you're talking about.

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If this falls through, will you admit you just made up a bunch of bs?

Why anyone would think a bunch terrorists are going to 100% honor this particular peace deal is beyond me.

One thing I can guarantee is that "peak American power" has never, ever crossed the minds of Hamas leaders.

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It isn't Hamas that matters here, it's the nations in the region. Hamas is like a tumor, the surrounding nations are the blood supply.

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The Palestinians are the dingleberries on the ******* of humanity.

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Assassin said:

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KaiBear said:

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Assassin said:

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KaiBear said:

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Assassin said:

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The deal is done between Israel and Gaza/Hamas

---

Looks as if the remaining living hostages have been released...the deal is in fact done.

And sources throughout the Middle East are crediting..............


Trump's successful destruction of Iran's nuclear bomb capability as the critical piece of the equation.

We are witnessing historical leadership.

---

He is gonna win the Nobel Prize, for sure...

---

Doubt it.

Far more likely Trump will be assassinated.

He is becoming more popular; more accomplished by the day.

---

There is simply no one else that has accomplished as much as Trump has done so far. And there is a chance that Russia-Ukraine may be his 9th war that he ended.

---

The assassination point is valid. The left has grown too intolerant to suffer the reality he has shoved in their faces. They will likely try again.

To understand how the islamic world will see this.....
Islam divides the world into "realms." The dar al islam (realm of peace). The dar al harb (realm of peace). and so on, all organized around the division of whether sharia is the law of the land (dar al islam) or not (any of several realms). One is the "dar al ahd" (realm of treaty). It is pragmatic....sometimes, islamic forces are exhaused. Sometimes, they are losing. A truce can give them time to recover and renew the push....just don't take the easy route and make the truce permanent. Ergo, a treaty can only last a max of 10yrs, after which time muslims are obligated to return to war.

So the idea of a treaty with infidels is hardly inconsistent with even extreme interpretations of islam. And by getting virtually all of the islamic countries to sign a treaty with Israel, he's using islam against islam....forcing islamic sovereign powers to do things the Koran specifically allows. And now he's invited Iran in.

Peak American power. Awesome demonstration. The Arabs can read the situation. Peak American power. Awesome demonstration in Syria, Iran, etc.... None of them want to face that. They want to ally with it. Trump's team definitely understand the subject material. If Hamas starts up again, the whole islamic world will have Sharia-based justification for shutting them down.

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This summary of Islamic views is a mess. More to the point, Israel and Hamas haven't agreed to anything except a ceasefire. It's not even the first one this year, much less the first in history.

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You have no idea what you're talking about.

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If this falls through, will you admit you just made up a bunch of bs?

Why anyone would think a bunch terrorists are going to 100% honor this particular peace deal is beyond me.

One thing I can guarantee is that "peak American power" has never, ever crossed the minds of Hamas leaders.

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It isn't Hamas that matters here, it's the nations in the region. Hamas is like a tumor, the surrounding nations are the blood supply.

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The Palestinians are the dingleberries on the ******* of humanity.

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whiterock said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Assassin said:

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KaiBear said:

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Assassin said:

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KaiBear said:

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Assassin said:

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The deal is done between Israel and Gaza/Hamas

---

Looks as if the remaining living hostages have been released...the deal is in fact done.

And sources throughout the Middle East are crediting..............


Trump's successful destruction of Iran's nuclear bomb capability as the critical piece of the equation.

We are witnessing historical leadership.

---

He is gonna win the Nobel Prize, for sure...

---

Doubt it.

Far more likely Trump will be assassinated.

He is becoming more popular; more accomplished by the day.

---

There is simply no one else that has accomplished as much as Trump has done so far. And there is a chance that Russia-Ukraine may be his 9th war that he ended.

---

The assassination point is valid. The left has grown too intolerant to suffer the reality he has shoved in their faces. They will likely try again.

To understand how the islamic world will see this.....
Islam divides the world into "realms." The dar al islam (realm of peace). The dar al harb (realm of peace). and so on, all organized around the division of whether sharia is the law of the land (dar al islam) or not (any of several realms). One is the "dar al ahd" (realm of treaty). It is pragmatic....sometimes, islamic forces are exhaused. Sometimes, they are losing. A truce can give them time to recover and renew the push....just don't take the easy route and make the truce permanent. Ergo, a treaty can only last a max of 10yrs, after which time muslims are obligated to return to war.

So the idea of a treaty with infidels is hardly inconsistent with even extreme interpretations of islam. And by getting virtually all of the islamic countries to sign a treaty with Israel, he's using islam against islam....forcing islamic sovereign powers to do things the Koran specifically allows. And now he's invited Iran in.

Peak American power. Awesome demonstration. The Arabs can read the situation. Peak American power. Awesome demonstration in Syria, Iran, etc.... None of them want to face that. They want to ally with it. Trump's team definitely understand the subject material. If Hamas starts up again, the whole islamic world will have Sharia-based justification for shutting them down.

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This summary of Islamic views is a mess. More to the point, Israel and Hamas haven't agreed to anything except a ceasefire. It's not even the first one this year, much less the first in history.

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You have no idea what you're talking about.

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If this falls through, will you admit you just made up a bunch of bs?

Why anyone would think a bunch terrorists are going to 100% honor this particular peace deal is beyond me.

One thing I can guarantee is that "peak American power" has never, ever crossed the minds of Hamas leaders.

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terrorists are going to terror. The question is are the going to do it with one-off assassinations or small bombs on Israeli buses.....or with massive artillery bombardments of Israeli cities and major raids into Israeli territory killing thousands of people.

What's different about this deal is that it changes the nature of the Palestinian movement itself.....destruction of the Israeli state, never a practical possibility but always the utopian ideal, is dead at this time. It's about how to co-exist WITH an Israeli state. Most significantly, nearly all of the players involved have signed onto the deal. That will make it very hard for any of them to give significant support, which will make it very difficult for Hamas to rebuild. And, of course, it creates a new business model for Gaza. No aid flows to usurp into defacto state revenues for Hamas. Instead, Arab money will be invested to rebuild for business. Real development into things that war will destroy. Ergo, the Arab states making the investments have an incentive to defend returns on their investments, rather than to use Gaza as a platform to invest in the harrying or outright destruction of the Israeli state.

Do some research about islamic realms. It's how they see the world. Islam does allow treaties with infidels for up to 10 years. So when all the islamic countries sign onto one, it puts anyone who violates the treaty into conflict not just with Israel of the USA, but with islam itself. Trump has actually managed to create a structure in which islam itself is working for us more than than against us. It's extraordinary.

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Waco1947 said:

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What about a two-state solution?

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Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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What about a two-state solution?

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Are their other views

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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What about a two-state solution?

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Are their other views

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Given what we see in the aftermath of the cease-fire, with Hamas executing residents of Gaza in the streets, is it really a good idea to have a "Palestinian state" at this time?

In any event, it is not the Israelis who have been the barrier to a "two-state solution."

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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What about a two-state solution?

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Are their other views

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In any event, it is not the Israelis who have been the barrier to a "two-state solution."

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Osodecentx said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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What about a two-state solution?

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Are their other views

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Don't Palestinians need to recognize Israel for there to be 2 states?

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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What about a two-state solution?

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Are their other views

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Given what we see in the aftermath of the cease-fire, with Hamas executing residents of Gaza in the streets, is it really a good idea to have a "Palestinian state" at this time?

In any event, it is not the Israelis who have been the barrier to a "two-state solution."

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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What about a two-state solution?

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Are their other views

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Given what we see in the aftermath of the cease-fire, with Hamas executing residents of Gaza in the streets, is it really a good idea to have a "Palestinian state" at this time?

In any event, it is not the Israelis who have been the barrier to a "two-state solution."

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Waco1947 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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What about a two-state solution?

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Are their other views

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Given what we see in the aftermath of the cease-fire, with Hamas executing residents of Gaza in the streets, is it really a good idea to have a "Palestinian state" at this time?

In any event, it is not the Israelis who have been the barrier to a "two-state solution."

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A NATO Security force needs to be in place to restore law and order.
Are there remnants of a government? Do ordinary Palestinians still support Hamas/

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D. C. Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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What about a two-state solution?

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Are their other views

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In any event, it is not the Israelis who have been the barrier to a "two-state solution."

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SMH

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Your ignorance is only exceeded by your confidence.

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D. C. Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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What about a two-state solution?

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Are their other views

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In any event, it is not the Israelis who have been the barrier to a "two-state solution."

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SMH

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Your ignorance is only exceeded by your confidence.

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Nonsense. Israel has never been serious about a two-state solution.

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Not according to Bill Clinton. It was Arafat, according to Clinton, who could not get to the point of actually ending the conflict.

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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What about a two-state solution?

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Are their other views

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Given what we see in the aftermath of the cease-fire, with Hamas executing residents of Gaza in the streets, is it really a good idea to have a "Palestinian state" at this time?

In any event, it is not the Israelis who have been the barrier to a "two-state solution."

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Hamas is executing rival groups, not simply spectators. It is a public warning to other groups like rival cartels in Mexico.

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Oh, well, I guess that makes it OK if they are "rival groups" and Hamas is just like a Mexican drug cartel.

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