Are the Bidens Collectively the Biggest Liars in U.S. Political History

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Reality?
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Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.
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J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

Shut up. It would take an exponential jump in level of lies for this Administration to match the Biden sea of lies, and even then it would take another 3 years to get there.



Gawd, you are an absolute simpleton to think Biden lied more than Trump. You ain't paying attention, there bitter MAGGOT. Between you and Jew hating Hammerskin Hank (op), not sure you boys are thinking. Hank still lives in his parents basement and you....well, what the eff is wrong with you? Trump is the most hollow, pathalocial liar the world has ever witnessed as a "leader". Hope yall enjoying the economy in your texas county.

Looks like Junior forgot to take his TDS meds again.
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Fre3dombear said:

Obama gotta be in consideration. Spent most of his life in obscurity and nonody even knows what his name was.

Then installed by the powers that be to read to us for 8 years and light entire world on fire by weakness.

Also, after being hailed as some kind of "post partisan unifier"when he was first elected, he ironically became one of the most divisive presidents we have ever had at least since the 19th Century. It was no coincidence that a half century's worth of positive progress in race relations suddenly headed south during his presidency.
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Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.

It is unfortunate that many within the conservative sphere appear to be gravitating toward a conspiratorial mindset, characterized by a troubling disregard for critical thinking and intellectual rigor. Rather than engaging with evidence-based arguments, there is a growing tendency to default to simplistic, unfounded explanations that reinforce their preexisting beliefs. The Epstein files are a perfect example.

It's why loons like Candace Owens are so popular among "conservatives" like realitybear.
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Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html
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On sort of a side note, does anyone on the board own a Hunter Biden painting?
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..
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Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

One of the biggest problems we're having in Iran is we fired all the years of experience that was in place to navigate Iran. Replaced with nemcompoops like Hegseth.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?

Sir, they laced your crack with meth.

These are the last 5 Secs of Defense. Most under Trump.

Pete Hegseth (Jan 25, 2025 Present)Role: Sworn in as the 29th Secretary of Defense. The position's title and department were subsequently updated to Secretary of War in late 2025.Background: Former U.S. Army National Guard infantry officer and author.

Lloyd Austin (Jan 22, 2021 Jan 20, 2025)Role: The 28th Secretary of Defense, serving throughout the Biden Administration.Background: Retired U.S. Army four-star General and former Commander of U.S. Central Command.

Christopher C. Miller (Nov 9, 2020 Jan 20, 2021)Role: Served as Acting Secretary of Defense at the end of the Trump Administration.Background: Formerly the Director of the National Counterterrorism Center.

Mark Esper (July 23, 2019 Nov 9, 2020)Role: Senate-confirmed Secretary of Defense under President Trump.Background: Previously served as the U.S. Secretary of the Army.
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LTbear said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

I cannot recall anyone that lies more than the Bidens ... with idiot Jill's latest gaslighting ... I cannot believe this correct family of idiotic liars was allowed to be in the White House. Not sure there has ever been a more dishonest, correct group of fools to live at 1600 Pennsylvania.

Are you not familiar with Trump? The man can't string together one paragraph without lying. And lots of the gullible here have just lapped it up.

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Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?


I said Hegseth is quite qualified and he's an upgrade over Austin which he is. And rest assured Hegseth would never disappear for multiple days without Trump knowing about it.
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Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?


I said Hegseth is quite qualified and he's an upgrade over Austin which he is. And rest assured Hegseth would never disappear for multiple days without Trump knowing about it.


In no other White House does he get the interview. In less partisan times, he doesn't get confirmed.

He is woefully unqualified for this position. Help me understand about his hire supports your belief in meritocracy?
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?


I said Hegseth is quite qualified and he's an upgrade over Austin which he is. And rest assured Hegseth would never disappear for multiple days without Trump knowing about it.


In no other White House does he get the interview. In less partisan times, he doesn't get confirmed.

He is woefully unqualified for this position. Help me understand about his hire supports your belief in meritocracy?

I'll be happy to right after you help me understand why you believe there is any valid premise that justifies DEI and how/why DEI isn't inherently racist and somehow results in better performance/outcomes for ALL??
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Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?


I said Hegseth is quite qualified and he's an upgrade over Austin which he is. And rest assured Hegseth would never disappear for multiple days without Trump knowing about it.


In no other White House does he get the interview. In less partisan times, he doesn't get confirmed.

He is woefully unqualified for this position. Help me understand about his hire supports your belief in meritocracy?

I'll be happy to right after you help me understand why you believe there is any valid premise that justifies DEI and how/why DEI isn't inherently racist and somehow results in better performance/outcomes for ALL??

It's DEIA. It's not a promotion of black folks, especially the unqualified. Greg Abbott is the best example of DEIA I can think of. You decide if it's ok.

DEIA attempts to expand the pool of people considered for roles. In Abbott's case, the state's inclusion efforts are centered around accessibility for wheelchair bound individuals. Could Abbot be governor but for accessible ramps, sidewalks, lecterns, and vehicles?

Has he taken a job away from an able-bodied candidate? (Might I remind you that the accessibility began way before he became the governor.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?


I said Hegseth is quite qualified and he's an upgrade over Austin which he is. And rest assured Hegseth would never disappear for multiple days without Trump knowing about it.


In no other White House does he get the interview. In less partisan times, he doesn't get confirmed.

He is woefully unqualified for this position. Help me understand about his hire supports your belief in meritocracy?

I'll be happy to right after you help me understand why you believe there is any valid premise that justifies DEI and how/why DEI isn't inherently racist and somehow results in better performance/outcomes for ALL??

It's DEIA. It's not a promotion of black folks, especially the unqualified. Greg Abbott is the best example of DEIA I can think of. You decide if it's ok.

DEIA attempts to expand the pool of people considered for roles. In Abbott's case, the state's inclusion efforts are centered around accessibility for wheelchair bound individuals. Could Abbot be governor but for accessible ramps, sidewalks, lecterns, and vehicles?

Has he taken a job away from an able-bodied candidate? (Might I remind you that the accessibility began way before he became the governor.

Accessibility is a different issue and doesn't belong in the same acronym as "diversity, equity, and inclusion". Nice diversion attempt, but it's duly noted that you didn't answer the question.
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Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

ake yourself feel better or Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?


I said Hegseth is quite qualified and he's an upgrade over Austin which he is. And rest assured Hegseth would never disappear for multiple days without Trump knowing about it.


In no other White House does he get the interview. In less partisan times, he doesn't get confirmed.

He is woefully unqualified for this position. Help me understand about his hire supports your belief in meritocracy?

I'll be happy to right after you help me understand why you believe there is any valid premise that justifies DEI and how/why DEI isn't inherently racist and somehow results in better performance/outcomes for ALL??

It's DEIA. It's not a promotion of black folks, especially the unqualified. Greg Abbott is the best example of DEIA I can think of. You decide if it's ok.

DEIA attempts to expand the pool of people considered for roles. In Abbott's case, the state's inclusion efforts are centered around accessibility for wheelchair bound individuals. Could Abbot be governor but for accessible ramps, sidewalks, lecterns, and vehicles?

Has he taken a job away from an able-bodied candidate? (Might I remind you that the accessibility began way before he became the governor.

Accessibility is a different issue and doesn't belong in the same acronym as "diversity, equity, and inclusion". Nice diversion attempt, but it's duly noted that you didn't answer the question.

You don't get to change what it is to make yourself feel better. What's apparent is that you lack understanding of DEIA and how it works.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

ake yourself feel better or Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?


I said Hegseth is quite qualified and he's an upgrade over Austin which he is. And rest assured Hegseth would never disappear for multiple days without Trump knowing about it.


In no other White House does he get the interview. In less partisan times, he doesn't get confirmed.

He is woefully unqualified for this position. Help me understand about his hire supports your belief in meritocracy?

I'll be happy to right after you help me understand why you believe there is any valid premise that justifies DEI and how/why DEI isn't inherently racist and somehow results in better performance/outcomes for ALL??

It's DEIA. It's not a promotion of black folks, especially the unqualified. Greg Abbott is the best example of DEIA I can think of. You decide if it's ok.

DEIA attempts to expand the pool of people considered for roles. In Abbott's case, the state's inclusion efforts are centered around accessibility for wheelchair bound individuals. Could Abbot be governor but for accessible ramps, sidewalks, lecterns, and vehicles?

Has he taken a job away from an able-bodied candidate? (Might I remind you that the accessibility began way before he became the governor.

Accessibility is a different issue and doesn't belong in the same acronym as "diversity, equity, and inclusion". Nice diversion attempt, but it's duly noted that you didn't answer the question.

You don't get to change what it is to make yourself feel better. What's apparent is that you lack understanding of DEIA and how it works.

No - what's apparent is your inability to substantively defend DEI - and I actually understand - because it's indefensible.
Mitch Blood Green
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Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

ake yourself feel better or Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?


I said Hegseth is quite qualified and he's an upgrade over Austin which he is. And rest assured Hegseth would never disappear for multiple days without Trump knowing about it.


In no other White House does he get the interview. In less partisan times, he doesn't get confirmed.

He is woefully unqualified for this position. Help me understand about his hire supports your belief in meritocracy?

I'll be happy to right after you help me understand why you believe there is any valid premise that justifies DEI and how/why DEI isn't inherently racist and somehow results in better performance/outcomes for ALL??

It's DEIA. It's not a promotion of black folks, especially the unqualified. Greg Abbott is the best example of DEIA I can think of. You decide if it's ok.

DEIA attempts to expand the pool of people considered for roles. In Abbott's case, the state's inclusion efforts are centered around accessibility for wheelchair bound individuals. Could Abbot be governor but for accessible ramps, sidewalks, lecterns, and vehicles?

Has he taken a job away from an able-bodied candidate? (Might I remind you that the accessibility began way before he became the governor.

Accessibility is a different issue and doesn't belong in the same acronym as "diversity, equity, and inclusion". Nice diversion attempt, but it's duly noted that you didn't answer the question.

You don't get to change what it is to make yourself feel better. What's apparent is that you lack understanding of DEIA and how it works.

No - what's apparent is your inability to substantively defend DEI - and I actually understand - because it's indefensible.


I can't make you feel better because of what you don't understand.

Even if I cross the street to your misunderstanding, I can't make Hegseth more qualified than Austin. Beyond that, I can't appoint Hegseth over 30 other white guys. Probably hundreds of other candidates regardless of race.

What's apparent is you support the highering of woefully incompetent people as long as they are not black. Make that make sense.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

ake yourself feel better or Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?


I said Hegseth is quite qualified and he's an upgrade over Austin which he is. And rest assured Hegseth would never disappear for multiple days without Trump knowing about it.


In no other White House does he get the interview. In less partisan times, he doesn't get confirmed.

He is woefully unqualified for this position. Help me understand about his hire supports your belief in meritocracy?

I'll be happy to right after you help me understand why you believe there is any valid premise that justifies DEI and how/why DEI isn't inherently racist and somehow results in better performance/outcomes for ALL??

It's DEIA. It's not a promotion of black folks, especially the unqualified. Greg Abbott is the best example of DEIA I can think of. You decide if it's ok.

DEIA attempts to expand the pool of people considered for roles. In Abbott's case, the state's inclusion efforts are centered around accessibility for wheelchair bound individuals. Could Abbot be governor but for accessible ramps, sidewalks, lecterns, and vehicles?

Has he taken a job away from an able-bodied candidate? (Might I remind you that the accessibility began way before he became the governor.

Accessibility is a different issue and doesn't belong in the same acronym as "diversity, equity, and inclusion". Nice diversion attempt, but it's duly noted that you didn't answer the question.

You don't get to change what it is to make yourself feel better. What's apparent is that you lack understanding of DEIA and how it works.

No - what's apparent is your inability to substantively defend DEI - and I actually understand - because it's indefensible.


I can't make you feel better because of what you don't understand.

Even if I cross the street to your misunderstanding, I can't make Hegseth more qualified than Austin. Beyond that, I can't appoint Hegseth over 30 other white guys. Probably hundreds of other candidates regardless of race.

What's apparent is you support the highering of woefully incompetent people as long as they are not black. Make that make sense.

Only way you could act more like a spoiled third grader right now Mitch, would be if you were stamping your feet.

It's one thing to dislike an official. But you're acting out the complete loon now.

And Austin was a terrible official. Only a complete idiot would defend him against just about any other choice for a cabinet role, short of 'doctor' Jill.
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Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

ake yourself feel better or Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?


I said Hegseth is quite qualified and he's an upgrade over Austin which he is. And rest assured Hegseth would never disappear for multiple days without Trump knowing about it.


In no other White House does he get the interview. In less partisan times, he doesn't get confirmed.

He is woefully unqualified for this position. Help me understand about his hire supports your belief in meritocracy?

I'll be happy to right after you help me understand why you believe there is any valid premise that justifies DEI and how/why DEI isn't inherently racist and somehow results in better performance/outcomes for ALL??

It's DEIA. It's not a promotion of black folks, especially the unqualified. Greg Abbott is the best example of DEIA I can think of. You decide if it's ok.

DEIA attempts to expand the pool of people considered for roles. In Abbott's case, the state's inclusion efforts are centered around accessibility for wheelchair bound individuals. Could Abbot be governor but for accessible ramps, sidewalks, lecterns, and vehicles?

Has he taken a job away from an able-bodied candidate? (Might I remind you that the accessibility began way before he became the governor.

Accessibility is a different issue and doesn't belong in the same acronym as "diversity, equity, and inclusion". Nice diversion attempt, but it's duly noted that you didn't answer the question.

You don't get to change what it is to make yourself feel better. What's apparent is that you lack understanding of DEIA and how it works.

No - what's apparent is your inability to substantively defend DEI - and I actually understand - because it's indefensible.


I can't make you feel better because of what you don't understand.

Even if I cross the street to your misunderstanding, I can't make Hegseth more qualified than Austin. Beyond that, I can't appoint Hegseth over 30 other white guys. Probably hundreds of other candidates regardless of race.

What's apparent is you support the highering of woefully incompetent people as long as they are not black. Make that make sense.

Only way you could act more like a spoiled third grader right now Mitch, would be if you were stamping your feet.

It's one thing to dislike an official. But you're acting out the complete loon now.

And Austin was a terrible official. Only a complete idiot would defend him against just about any other choice for a cabinet role, short of 'doctor' Jill.


Come on 83. Look at the resume. This aint me arguing against Hegseth. This is me as a person who has sat in many boardrooms and reviewed resumes.

I have a sense of your career. Hiring Hegseth is equivalent to hiring a high school graduate with 10 years book keeping to replace you. That I'd never do.

Personally, Hegseth reminds me of hiring Guy Morris. He says all the right things to people who don't know. But when you know? It quickly becomes apparent that he's selling wolf tickets. How soon is it before our military is pulling tractor trailers or drinking pickle juice?

Experience matters.
Oldbear83
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So you decided to add the foot-stamping.

Bet you're looking forward to recess.
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Mitch Blood Green
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Oldbear83 said:

So you decided to add the foot-stamping.

Bet you're looking forward to recess.


Go with that. Even in recess, I win dodge ball.
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Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

Shut up. It would take an exponential jump in level of lies for this Administration to match the Biden sea of lies, and even then it would take another 3 years to get there.



Gawd, you are an absolute simpleton to think Biden lied more than Trump. You ain't paying attention, there bitter MAGGOT. Between you and Jew hating Hammerskin Hank (op), not sure you boys are thinking. Hank still lives in his parents basement and you....well, what the eff is wrong with you? Trump is the most hollow, pathalocial liar the world has ever witnessed as a "leader". Hope yall enjoying the economy in your texas county.

Looks like Junior forgot to take his TDS meds again.

oh, Little Johnny. Gold Jesus died on a cross of dollars bills for your and old 83 for your soul. Glad to see you sold your should so cheaply. Wasn't worth much in your case. Viva la Gold Jesus. Oh and dumb ass, don't pay any attention to facts presented relative to Piggy's lying. You must be a liar too. You 2 frauds enjoy your govt assistance...SS, Medicare. You are welcome.
Oldbear83
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Oldbear83 said:

So you decided to add the foot-stamping.

Bet you're looking forward to recess.


Go with that. Even in recess, I win dodge ball.

I know your kind, Your kind "wins" games by cheating and trying to hurt the other player.

And by the way, Austin was still a terrible DoD and Hegseth was better than him by a mile.
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BUDOS
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BUDOS said:

Oldbear, after reviewing our conversation, ((see below) I don't believe you have responded to my last request. Was it not a fair one?

Oldbear83 said to Proud 1992
Shut up. It would take an exponential jump in level of lies for this Administration to match the Biden sea of lies, and even then it would take another 3 years to get there.


BUDOS
Is that an opinion or a fact you can document?
In my opinion, I'm with Proud 1992.


Oldbear83 In reply to BUDOS 6:16p, 6/1/26
It's a fact-based opinion. And frankly not close to a debatable point.

Trump provokes a lot of responses, and some of his comments are ill-advised. But in matters of actual truth, there are at least a dozen Presidents before Trump who were far more dishonest, but they are forgotten because of obsession with Trump, bad memory by the poster, or worse the idea that lying is OK if they prefer the liar then over the accused liar now.


BUDOS

In reply to Oldbear83 10:45p, 6/1/26
Oldbear
I like your term of having a "fact-based opinion".
Not sure where your facts are to go with it.
Here's what I found to go with mine:

Research and exhaustive fact-checking data indicate that Donald Trump has told significantly more false or misleading claims than any other U.S. president in history.

Comprehensive documentation measures the scale of these claims:
* The Washington Post: Documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his four-year presidency. This averaged to about 21 erroneous claims per day, steadily increasing over his term.

* The New York Times: In comparative research, they recorded dozens of untruths by Trump during his early months in office compared to just a handful from his predecessor over a similar span.

While previous presidents have been heavily criticized for specific, major historical deceptions such as Lyndon B. Johnson regarding the Vietnam War or Richard Nixon during Watergate political scientists and fact-checking institutions note that Trump's volume of falsehoods was unprecedented in American history.

Oldbear83
In reply to BUDOS 10:57p, 6/1/26
So your evidence comes from groups known to hate Trump and who have a record of their own lies about him.

Good luck.




BUDOS
I kind of expected such a response. So, to be fair,
what specific sources do you get your facts
-based opinion?


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And by the way, Austin was still a terrible DoD and Hegseth was better than him by a mile.


The problem is that as bad as Austin was, replacing him with a retired Major and Fox News host doesn't represent a significant upgrade. Hegseth's problem is that he has taken the Hooah side of the military into a role that demands circumspection, diplomacy, and measured words.

Surely Trump could have found someone to gut DEI who was more suited for the role.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

ake yourself feel better or Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?


I said Hegseth is quite qualified and he's an upgrade over Austin which he is. And rest assured Hegseth would never disappear for multiple days without Trump knowing about it.


In no other White House does he get the interview. In less partisan times, he doesn't get confirmed.

He is woefully unqualified for this position. Help me understand about his hire supports your belief in meritocracy?

I'll be happy to right after you help me understand why you believe there is any valid premise that justifies DEI and how/why DEI isn't inherently racist and somehow results in better performance/outcomes for ALL??

It's DEIA. It's not a promotion of black folks, especially the unqualified. Greg Abbott is the best example of DEIA I can think of. You decide if it's ok.

DEIA attempts to expand the pool of people considered for roles. In Abbott's case, the state's inclusion efforts are centered around accessibility for wheelchair bound individuals. Could Abbot be governor but for accessible ramps, sidewalks, lecterns, and vehicles?

Has he taken a job away from an able-bodied candidate? (Might I remind you that the accessibility began way before he became the governor.

Accessibility is a different issue and doesn't belong in the same acronym as "diversity, equity, and inclusion". Nice diversion attempt, but it's duly noted that you didn't answer the question.

You don't get to change what it is to make yourself feel better. What's apparent is that you lack understanding of DEIA and how it works.

No - what's apparent is your inability to substantively defend DEI - and I actually understand - because it's indefensible.
What's apparent is you support the highering of woefully incompetent people as long as they are not black. Make that make sense.

No, what's apparent is you don't have the intellectual capacity to understand that I couldn't care less about race - even though it's been explained to you multiple times at a 6th grade level. One more time - it's called merit.
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J.R. said:

Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

Shut up. It would take an exponential jump in level of lies for this Administration to match the Biden sea of lies, and even then it would take another 3 years to get there.



Gawd, you are an absolute simpleton to think Biden lied more than Trump. You ain't paying attention, there bitter MAGGOT. Between you and Jew hating Hammerskin Hank (op), not sure you boys are thinking. Hank still lives in his parents basement and you....well, what the eff is wrong with you? Trump is the most hollow, pathalocial liar the world has ever witnessed as a "leader". Hope yall enjoying the economy in your texas county.

Looks like Junior forgot to take his TDS meds again.

oh, Little Johnny. Gold Jesus died on a cross of dollars bills for your and old 83 for your soul. Glad to see you sold your should so cheaply. Wasn't worth much in your case. Viva la Gold Jesus. Oh and dumb ass, don't pay any attention to facts presented relative to Piggy's lying. You must be a liar too. You 2 frauds enjoy your govt assistance...SS, Medicare. You are welcome.

LOL! That's pretty rich coming from Mr. taxpayer subsidized Obummercare user. By the way, Trump still appreciates the 24/7/365 free rent in your head, but I hear he's been complaining more lately about how cramped it is in there.
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Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

Shut up. It would take an exponential jump in level of lies for this Administration to match the Biden sea of lies, and even then it would take another 3 years to get there.



Gawd, you are an absolute simpleton to think Biden lied more than Trump. You ain't paying attention, there bitter MAGGOT. Between you and Jew hating Hammerskin Hank (op), not sure you boys are thinking. Hank still lives in his parents basement and you....well, what the eff is wrong with you? Trump is the most hollow, pathalocial liar the world has ever witnessed as a "leader". Hope yall enjoying the economy in your texas county.

Looks like Junior forgot to take his TDS meds again.

oh, Little Johnny. Gold Jesus died on a cross of dollars bills for your and old 83 for your soul. Glad to see you sold your should so cheaply. Wasn't worth much in your case. Viva la Gold Jesus. Oh and dumb ass, don't pay any attention to facts presented relative to Piggy's lying. You must be a liar too. You 2 frauds enjoy your govt assistance...SS, Medicare. You are welcome.

LOL! That's pretty rich coming from Mr. taxpayer subsidized Obummercare user. By the way, Trump still appreciates the 24/7/365 free rent in your head, but I hear he's been complaining more lately about how cramped it is in there.

Well Little Johnny, I Have 2 Healthcare Policies,pal, non of which is Ocare. Gold BCBSTX, AXA for Thailand, so you can shut you POS pie hole. Not really cool throwing shade at someone how was denied by your "worlds greatest healthcare" for a pre existing condition. How Christian of you , you effing heretic. How's your govt assistance Little Johnny. You enjoying that Medicare and SS? Food Stamps yesterday
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J.R. said:

Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

Shut up. It would take an exponential jump in level of lies for this Administration to match the Biden sea of lies, and even then it would take another 3 years to get there.



Gawd, you are an absolute simpleton to think Biden lied more than Trump. You ain't paying attention, there bitter MAGGOT. Between you and Jew hating Hammerskin Hank (op), not sure you boys are thinking. Hank still lives in his parents basement and you....well, what the eff is wrong with you? Trump is the most hollow, pathalocial liar the world has ever witnessed as a "leader". Hope yall enjoying the economy in your texas county.

Looks like Junior forgot to take his TDS meds again.

oh, Little Johnny. Gold Jesus died on a cross of dollars bills for your and old 83 for your soul. Glad to see you sold your should so cheaply. Wasn't worth much in your case. Viva la Gold Jesus. Oh and dumb ass, don't pay any attention to facts presented relative to Piggy's lying. You must be a liar too. You 2 frauds enjoy your govt assistance...SS, Medicare. You are welcome.

LOL! That's pretty rich coming from Mr. taxpayer subsidized Obummercare user. By the way, Trump still appreciates the 24/7/365 free rent in your head, but I hear he's been complaining more lately about how cramped it is in there.

Well Little Johnny, I Have 2 Healthcare Policies,pal, non of which is Ocare. Gold BCBSTX, AXA for Thailand, so you can shut you POS pie hole. Not really cool throwing shade at someone how was denied by your "worlds greatest healthcare" for a pre existing condition. How Christian of you , you effing heretic. How's your govt assistance Little Johnny. You enjoying that Medicare and SS? Food Stamps yet. You may as well while us taxpayers are funding your subsidies. Enjoy the free Cheddar, lib!

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Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

ake yourself feel better or Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?


I said Hegseth is quite qualified and he's an upgrade over Austin which he is. And rest assured Hegseth would never disappear for multiple days without Trump knowing about it.


In no other White House does he get the interview. In less partisan times, he doesn't get confirmed.

He is woefully unqualified for this position. Help me understand about his hire supports your belief in meritocracy?

I'll be happy to right after you help me understand why you believe there is any valid premise that justifies DEI and how/why DEI isn't inherently racist and somehow results in better performance/outcomes for ALL??

It's DEIA. It's not a promotion of black folks, especially the unqualified. Greg Abbott is the best example of DEIA I can think of. You decide if it's ok.

DEIA attempts to expand the pool of people considered for roles. In Abbott's case, the state's inclusion efforts are centered around accessibility for wheelchair bound individuals. Could Abbot be governor but for accessible ramps, sidewalks, lecterns, and vehicles?

Has he taken a job away from an able-bodied candidate? (Might I remind you that the accessibility began way before he became the governor.

Accessibility is a different issue and doesn't belong in the same acronym as "diversity, equity, and inclusion". Nice diversion attempt, but it's duly noted that you didn't answer the question.

You don't get to change what it is to make yourself feel better. What's apparent is that you lack understanding of DEIA and how it works.

No - what's apparent is your inability to substantively defend DEI - and I actually understand - because it's indefensible.

What's apparent is you support the highering of woefully incompetent people as long as they are not black. Make that make sense.

No, what's apparent is you don't have the intellectual capacity to understand that I couldn't care less about race - even though it's been explained to you multiple times at a 6th grade level. One more time - it's called merit.

I believe you don't consciously care about race. However, I see you refuse to acknowledge that your concern, "qualifications and meritocracy," are not met by Hegseth. Maybe it's race and country you don't care about.

What you will not acknowledge is that this unqualified person took us to war in Iran, which has countries dumping US treasuries and threatens the dollar as the global default currency. (Or you haven't considered it). He has also fired more qualified people under the guise of "DEI," which is negatively impacting our ability to navigate a global crisis.

Below is a person who was fired for being DEI.

CQ Brown
  • Profession: Retired 4star Air Force General; former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (20232025).
  • Service: 41 years active duty (19842025).
  • Career Type: Traditional military career with progressive command at every level.
  • Notable First: First African American to lead a U.S. military branch.
Pete Hegseth
  • Profession: U.S. Secretary of Defense (since 2025); former Fox News host.
  • Service: National Guard infantry officer; rank of Major.
  • Career Type: Media, political advocacy, and limited military service.
  • Public Profile: Known for conservative commentary and political alignment with President Trump.
Summary: Key Differences
  • Depth of Military Leadership:
    Brown commanded at every level of the Air Force; Hegseth never held senior military command.
  • Strategic Experience:
    Brown has decades of joint, global operational leadership; Hegseth's experience is tactical and political.
  • Professional Trajectory:
    Brown followed a traditional military path; Hegseth's path is political/mediadriven.
  • Qualifications for Defense Leadership:
    Brown's rsum aligns with historical norms for top defense roles; Hegseth's reflects a political appointment with unconventional credentials.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

ake yourself feel better or Patel/Bongino/Bondi on Epstein? Some of you all have selective memories.

I've asked this before, but never got an answer: what are Patel/Bongino/Bondi lying about regarding Epstein, if you know?

Of course you haven't gotten an answer regarding any specifics and you never will. It's the same thing as the lefties that scream about mass "systemic racism (targeted at black people"). When asked for specific examples of qualified black people being denied housing, jobs, the right to vote, the right to an education, etc., because of their race, all you get is crickets. For that matter, none of them can provide any actual examples that aren't 50 or more years old. All of it it just baseless wild claims stemming 100% from emotion and TDS.


Hegseth is less qualified than all the people he's blocked or fired in his current role.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/hegseth-blocks-promotion-several-navy-053222469.html


LOL!

Of course he opposes racist DEI policies that prioritize totally superficial things like race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's called meritocracy and this is exactly how of all things the military should be. Actually demonstrates the exact opposite of what you're implying.

Nice try, though………Not………..


You believe that black promotions are only done on race and that blacks have no other viable qualifications?

And you believe Hegseth, because of his position on Fox News and service in the guard is qualified to determine that?

You started with a premise and there's nothing that will help you. Every person he's fired or denied has more "meritocracy" than him. Did you see in the article, he has pushed for promotion of one of his friends who didn't have the qualifications for the promotion? Is that what you mean by meritocracy?

Of course I don't believe that all black promotions are based on race - what a ridiculous statement. What I believe is that any unmerited advancement or promotion that happens because of superficial things like race, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc. is wrong - regardless of what the race in question is. For example, it would be wrong to pursue DEI in the NBA or the NFL to arbitrarily increase the number of white athletes in order to "look more like America". Professional sports are another great example of meritocracy which means the racial makeup will be whatever it is and that's exactly the way it should be. Same for the military. Same for the business world. Same for the government, etc. And finally, the premise behnd DEI that America is inherently systemically racist/biased against people of color, women, gays, etc. is wrong and should be rejected by everyone. People that actually believe in the race blind/color blind society that MLK fought so hard for during the 60's are some of the most ardent opposers of racist policies like DEI.

And yes, I believe Hegseth is quite qualified to be Secretary of Defense and is a huge upgrade from what we had during auto pen's administration. Plus, his prior association with Fox News has absolutely nothing to do with it.


You believe Hegseth was more qualified than Lloyd Austin?


I said Hegseth is quite qualified and he's an upgrade over Austin which he is. And rest assured Hegseth would never disappear for multiple days without Trump knowing about it.


In no other White House does he get the interview. In less partisan times, he doesn't get confirmed.

He is woefully unqualified for this position. Help me understand about his hire supports your belief in meritocracy?

I'll be happy to right after you help me understand why you believe there is any valid premise that justifies DEI and how/why DEI isn't inherently racist and somehow results in better performance/outcomes for ALL??

It's DEIA. It's not a promotion of black folks, especially the unqualified. Greg Abbott is the best example of DEIA I can think of. You decide if it's ok.

DEIA attempts to expand the pool of people considered for roles. In Abbott's case, the state's inclusion efforts are centered around accessibility for wheelchair bound individuals. Could Abbot be governor but for accessible ramps, sidewalks, lecterns, and vehicles?

Has he taken a job away from an able-bodied candidate? (Might I remind you that the accessibility began way before he became the governor.

Accessibility is a different issue and doesn't belong in the same acronym as "diversity, equity, and inclusion". Nice diversion attempt, but it's duly noted that you didn't answer the question.

You don't get to change what it is to make yourself feel better. What's apparent is that you lack understanding of DEIA and how it works.

No - what's apparent is your inability to substantively defend DEI - and I actually understand - because it's indefensible.

What's apparent is you support the highering of woefully incompetent people as long as they are not black. Make that make sense.

No, what's apparent is you don't have the intellectual capacity to understand that I couldn't care less about race - even though it's been explained to you multiple times at a 6th grade level. One more time - it's called merit.

I believe you don't consciously care about race. However, I see you refuse to acknowledge that your concern, "qualifications and meritocracy," are not met by Hegseth. Maybe it's race and country you don't care about.

What you will not acknowledge is that this unqualified person took us to war in Iran, which has countries dumping US treasuries and threatens the dollar as the global default currency. (Or you haven't considered it). He has also fired more qualified people under the guise of "DEI," which is negatively impacting our ability to navigate a global crisis.

Below is a person who was fired for being DEI.

CQ Brown
  • Profession: Retired 4star Air Force General; former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (20232025).
  • Service: 41 years active duty (19842025).
  • Career Type: Traditional military career with progressive command at every level.
  • Notable First: First African American to lead a U.S. military branch.
Pete Hegseth
  • Profession: U.S. Secretary of Defense (since 2025); former Fox News host.
  • Service: National Guard infantry officer; rank of Major.
  • Career Type: Media, political advocacy, and limited military service.
  • Public Profile: Known for conservative commentary and political alignment with President Trump.
Summary: Key Differences
  • Depth of Military Leadership:
    Brown commanded at every level of the Air Force; Hegseth never held senior military command.
  • Strategic Experience:
    Brown has decades of joint, global operational leadership; Hegseth's experience is tactical and political.
  • Professional Trajectory:
    Brown followed a traditional military path; Hegseth's path is political/mediadriven.
  • Qualifications for Defense Leadership:
    Brown's rsum aligns with historical norms for top defense roles; Hegseth's reflects a political appointment with unconventional credentials.


So bottom line you would've been perfectly fine with kicking the can down the road as usual and allowing both present and future generations to have to deal with a nuclear armed Iran that is led by crazed radical Shiite extremists who believe it's "Allah's will" that they destroy the West (especially including the USA) and either kill or forcefully convert the rest of the world to their brand of Islam. Don't forget these are the same people that green lighted and financed the raping, torturing, killing, and kidnapping 1000s of innocent people, including women, children, and even babies - and you and you ilk are fine with taking our chances with them having access to nuclear weapons. Thank God, we have a President and a highly qualified Secretary of War who believe differently.
 
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