This "border crisis" talk is dangerous for our democracy

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quash
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“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Young Justin is gonna be sad!
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
quash
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.


Actually, quash, I agree with you on this. The good news is it looks like it may be a very long time before there is a Democrat in the White House.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
Osodecentx
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.


Actually, quash, I agree with you on this. The good news is it looks like it may be a very long time before there is a Democrat in the White House.
Remember when Hillary couldn't lose?
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quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.
I have a bad feeling that will happen regardless of what Trump does. The democrats have no problem setting new and dangerous precedents.
contrario
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If it's a danger to our democracy, why would the democrats love the idea? That seems counterintuitive. OP please reconcile. TIA
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BearFan33 said:

quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.
I have a bad feeling that will happen regardless of what Trump does. The democrats have no problem setting new and dangerous precedents.
Let's not help them. No Harry Reid screw ups
Waco1947
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BearFan33 said:

quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.
I have a bad feeling that will happen regardless of what Trump does. The democrats have no problem setting new and dangerous precedents.
Dangrous precedents? Look in the current Oval Office
quash
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contrario said:

If it's a danger to our democracy, why would the democrats love the idea? That seems counterintuitive. OP please reconcile. TIA
Capital D. But you knew that.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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Osodecentx said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

quash

Actually, quash, I agree with you on this. The good news is it looks like it may be a very long time before there is a Democrat in the White House.
Remember when Hillary couldn't lose?
Hillary didn't lose - the Russians rigged the election. Don't you keep up with the MSM?
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.


The good news is it looks like it may be a very long time before there is a Democrat in the White House.


How have you reached this conclusion ?

RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Canada2017 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.


The good news is it looks like it may be a very long time before there is a Democrat in the White House.


How have you reached this conclusion ?


The Democratic Party has gone to the EXTREME LEFT so much that I just don't see them having an electable candidate. The decent people that remain with the Democratic Party (yes, there some left) are going to defect. By the same token, I am not so sure at this point Trump wins in 2020. I think Starbucks sucks, but the Schultz guy seems to be anchored in reality. Nikki Haley, I believe, could beat Trump. Will be fascinating to see what happens. Just my opinion my friend.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

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Canada2017
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Canada2017 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.


The good news is it looks like it may be a very long time before there is a Democrat in the White House.


How have you reached this conclusion ?


The Democratic Party has gone to the EXTREME LEFT so much that I just don't see them having an electable candidate. The decent people that remain with the Democratic Party (yes, there some left) are going to defect. By the same token, I am not so sure at this point Trump wins in 2020. I think Starbucks sucks, but the Schultz guy seems to be anchored in reality. Nikki Haley, I believe, could beat Trump. Will be fascinating to see what happens. Just my opinion my friend.


My friend the country is far different than even 12 years ago.

Dems are going crazy left because that's were most people are headed as well.

An increasing number are unable or unwilling to take care of themselves...but still want the perks.
Sam Lowry
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I agree, it's a dangerous precedent.
quash
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Sam Lowry said:

I agree, it's a dangerous precedent.

Further imbalance in executive power.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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Sam Lowry said:

I agree, it's a dangerous precedent.
Yep.
Doc Holliday
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Americans have died as a result of illegal border crossings.

This is a fact.
Waco1947
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Doc Holliday said:

Americans have died as a result of illegal border crossings.

This is a fact.
Really? People died from guns today and were shot by Americans
Doc Holliday
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Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Americans have died as a result of illegal border crossings.

This is a fact.
Really? People died from guns today and were shot by Americans
People died from stabbings today by Americans.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.
Why isnt there more sad now when a republican actually doing it?
I have found theres only two ways to go:
Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
But I will live while I'm here.
DioNoZeus
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Doc Holliday said:

Americans have died as a result of illegal border crossings.

This is a fact.

https://www.cato.org/blog/murder-mollie-tibbetts-illegal-immigrant-crime-facts
Osodecentx
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quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.
Why don't R's see this?
LIB,MR BEARS
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It is a horrible precedent to set.

Clinton talked about it as an emergency but took no action.

Obama talked about it as an emergency but took no action.

Trump talked about it as an emergency and took action. It was just the wrong action.

This should have been pushed through Congress in year 1 of Trump's presidency but that's when the Rs took no action.
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Doc Holliday said:

Americans have died as a result of illegal border crossings.

This is a fact.


People have died from pickles. Fact.

Get rid of all pickles!
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

It is a horrible precedent to set.

Clinton talked about it as an emergency but took no action.

Obama talked about it as an emergency but took no action.

Trump talked about it as an emergency and took action. It was just the wrong action.

This should have been pushed through Congress in year 1 of Trump's presidency but that's when the Rs took no action.


McConnell and Ryan played Trump -which is possible because Trump doesn't pay attention to anything. They said taxes, then healthcare, then wall, and he bought it. Trump even talked about it.

He got played by his own party.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Canada2017 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.


The good news is it looks like it may be a very long time before there is a Democrat in the White House.


How have you reached this conclusion ?


The Democratic Party has gone to the EXTREME LEFT so much that I just don't see them having an electable candidate. The decent people that remain with the Democratic Party (yes, there some left) are going to defect. By the same token, I am not so sure at this point Trump wins in 2020. I think Starbucks sucks, but the Schultz guy seems to be anchored in reality. Nikki Haley, I believe, could beat Trump. Will be fascinating to see what happens. Just my opinion my friend.

Until Pelosi tells AOC and the 2 muzzie reps to shut up with the crazy GND and anti-Semitic rhetoric that does not play well in middle America, even with independent voters, they'll lose. The next democrat nominee will lose as bad as McGovern or Mondale.
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It is funny how y'all think the electorate is the same as it was in the 70s and 80s. Well over half the voters in the 80s have passed. It is more likely that with Trumps help one of these Democrats can end up being a latter day FDR in terms of also getting a Congress that wants to do everything that POTUS wants to do.
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YoakDaddy said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Canada2017 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.


The good news is it looks like it may be a very long time before there is a Democrat in the White House.


How have you reached this conclusion ?


The Democratic Party has gone to the EXTREME LEFT so much that I just don't see them having an electable candidate. The decent people that remain with the Democratic Party (yes, there some left) are going to defect. By the same token, I am not so sure at this point Trump wins in 2020. I think Starbucks sucks, but the Schultz guy seems to be anchored in reality. Nikki Haley, I believe, could beat Trump. Will be fascinating to see what happens. Just my opinion my friend.

Until Pelosi tells AOC and the 2 muzzie reps to shut up with the crazy GND and anti-Semitic rhetoric that does not play well in middle America, even with independent voters, they'll lose. The next democrat nominee will lose as bad as McGovern or Mondale.


It appears so far that all democrats are putting up are sacrificial lambs
quash
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Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Americans have died as a result of illegal border crossings.

This is a fact.
Really? People died from guns today and were shot by Americans
People died from stabbings today by Americans.
Would you like the president to declare a national knife emergency?

When the alleged emergency has been decreasing for twenty years, and when himself denies the emergency nature, what you really have is a political emergency.

Trump declares a crisis, does little to address it, and he will then declare he solved it. As he has before.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
quash
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.
Why isnt there more sad now when a republican actually doing it?
Some people want this. Speaker Pelosi splooshed at the idea of skipping the Senate. Gun control, climate change. Green New Deal.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Sam Lowry
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.
Why isnt there more sad now when a republican actually doing it?
Because the Republican isn't a left wing lunatic and the wall is something no one really had a problem with until about ten minutes ago.
PartyBear
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The wall was just voted on in 18. Polling data continues to back up that this wall issue is a loser and by large margin. So is the national emergency over an unpopular policy that Americans don't want to pay for.
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Waco1947 said:

BearFan33 said:

quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Young Justin is gonna be sad!

Gonna be a lot of sad to go around when a Democrat in the White House looks around and sees emergencies everywhere.
I have a bad feeling that will happen regardless of what Trump does. The democrats have no problem setting new and dangerous precedents.
Dangrous precedents? Look in the current Oval Office


And go back several POTUS regimes as well. This didn't begin with Trump nor will it end when he is gone. Just because he is a boor, a bully and lacking grace and class doesn't automatically declare him wrong in an issue or stupid. He's an easy target no doubt but he IS the POTUS. I heard that said about the previous two Prez as well. We'd better find a way to deal with him outside media.
 
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