bearassnekkid said:
I'd like for some of the libertarian folks in favor of legalizing drugs to watch this and then let's have a conversation.
Are drugs legal in Seattle?bearassnekkid said:
I'd like for some of the libertarian folks in favor of legalizing drugs to watch this and then let's have a conversation.
No, but their existing laws are not well enforced. Think of Hamsterdam from The Wire.Sam Lowry said:Are drugs legal in Seattle?bearassnekkid said:
I'd like for some of the libertarian folks in favor of legalizing drugs to watch this and then let's have a conversation.
Alfred, thank you for posting this.Alfred Anchorsen said:
Back to being the old contrarian.Sam Lowry said:Are drugs legal in Seattle?bearassnekkid said:
I'd like for some of the libertarian folks in favor of legalizing drugs to watch this and then let's have a conversation.
You want something original? Get ready for the bombshell...OldBurlyBear86 said:Back to being the old contrarian.Sam Lowry said:Are drugs legal in Seattle?bearassnekkid said:
I'd like for some of the libertarian folks in favor of legalizing drugs to watch this and then let's have a conversation.
Cant wait for you to offer something original.
How bout the Pope?
Basically "possession" amounts of heroin, meth, etc are "legal." There is no enforcement against usage (even in the open in the streets) or possession up to a certain quantity.Sam Lowry said:Are drugs legal in Seattle?bearassnekkid said:
I'd like for some of the libertarian folks in favor of legalizing drugs to watch this and then let's have a conversation.
Same resultSam Lowry said:
It's a long video, and I didn't get much from the first ten minutes. I would say not enforcing the law is different from legalizing. You still have a black market and all the problems that entails.
Sam Lowry said:You want something original? Get ready for the bombshell...OldBurlyBear86 said:Back to being the old contrarian.Sam Lowry said:Are drugs legal in Seattle?bearassnekkid said:
I'd like for some of the libertarian folks in favor of legalizing drugs to watch this and then let's have a conversation.
Cant wait for you to offer something original.
How bout the Pope?
Maybe a town where drugs aren't legal isn't the best example of what happens when drugs are legal.
It is long and well worth the timeCanada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:You want something original? Get ready for the bombshell...OldBurlyBear86 said:Back to being the old contrarian.Sam Lowry said:Are drugs legal in Seattle?bearassnekkid said:
I'd like for some of the libertarian folks in favor of legalizing drugs to watch this and then let's have a conversation.
Cant wait for you to offer something original.
How bout the Pope?
Maybe a town where drugs aren't legal isn't the best example of what happens when drugs are legal.
The destructive powers of heroin should be obvious to anyone. To make it more available with legalization would only increase the carnage.
Watch the entire video.
AlfredAlfred Anchorsen said:
Watch the whole thing, it's critical.
Osodecentx said:AlfredAlfred Anchorsen said:
Watch the whole thing, it's critical.
I wasn't planning on watching, but it just grabbed me. 2 million views in 11 days.
It is important. It shows the results of well intentioned but poor policy
It grabbed me too. So many parts of Seattle remind me of Mumbai India. Unreal.Osodecentx said:AlfredAlfred Anchorsen said:
Watch the whole thing, it's critical.
I wasn't planning on watching, but it just grabbed me. 2 million views in 11 days.
It is important. It shows the results of well intentioned but poor policy
DioNoZeus said:
I love Seattle but the open drug use there is startling. I will never forget walking downtown at 8AM on a Sunday morning, looking inside a window of a McDonalds as I was passing by, and seeing some guy freebasing in a booth. It's a huge problem.
Osodecentx said:Same resultSam Lowry said:
It's a long video, and I didn't get much from the first ten minutes. I would say not enforcing the law is different from legalizing. You still have a black market and all the problems that entails.
People sleeping in tents in front of Nordstrom's, urinating wherever and whenever the need arises, huge spike in property crimes (second only to San Francisco)
Addicts steal to afford their drugs because they can't hold a job. That'll be the same if their drug of choice is legal.
Canada2017 said:bearassnekkid said:
I'd like for some of the libertarian folks in favor of legalizing drugs to watch this and then let's have a conversation.
Suspect 30% of our local homeless population are addicted to drugs. Almost all the violence and theft associated with our homeless is drug related .
Yet there are people who want to legalize heroin, meth and crack. Unbelievable.
bularry said:Canada2017 said:bearassnekkid said:
I'd like for some of the libertarian folks in favor of legalizing drugs to watch this and then let's have a conversation.
Suspect 30% of our local homeless population are addicted to drugs. Almost all the violence and theft associated with our homeless is drug related .
Yet there are people who want to legalize heroin, meth and crack. Unbelievable.
Probably 80% have mental health issues and due to self medication to treat themselves you end up with addicts.
Look at the video on Seattle. It isn't a housing problem. It is a drug problem. Legalizing will only make it worseKeyser Soze said:
They can't keep drugs out of prisons - yet some of you think a few more laws or a few more police will do something.
Many problems with the left leaning cities that have been self created problems
Zoning: particularly in San Fran prevents builders from making affordable housing and the quantity of housing needed.
Minimum wage laws prices the very low skilled completely out of a job.
Zoning issues alone in San Francisco alone would cause most people pushed out to the street from job loss and home loss to leave - on foot if necessary - to find a better place. Likely they move before the hammer falls and they have to walk. They would have nothing to lose by leaving the place that doesn't allow for lower wage earners, but everything to lose by staying.Keyser Soze said:
They can't keep drugs out of prisons - yet some of you think a few more laws or a few more police will do something.
Many problems with the left leaning cities that have been self created problems
Zoning: particularly in San Fran prevents builders from making affordable housing and the quantity of housing needed.
Minimum wage laws prices the very low skilled completely out of a job.
EatMoreSalmon said:Zoning issues alone in San Francisco alone would cause most people pushed out to the street from job loss and home loss to leave - on foot if necessary - to find a better place. Likely they move before the hammer falls and they have to walk. They would have nothing to lose by leaving the place that doesn't allow for lower wage earners, but everything to lose by staying.Keyser Soze said:
They can't keep drugs out of prisons - yet some of you think a few more laws or a few more police will do something.
Many problems with the left leaning cities that have been self created problems
Zoning: particularly in San Fran prevents builders from making affordable housing and the quantity of housing needed.
Minimum wage laws prices the very low skilled completely out of a job.
Drug addicts stay because they find what they want there.
It's not a housing problem. More people should listen to the people they pay to keep the peace in their town.
How can legalizing drugs make things worse than depicted in that video? The streets of Seattle look like a cross between Limbo and Hell, complete with wraiths and demons.Osodecentx said:Look at the video on Seattle. It isn't a housing problem. It is a drug problem. Legalizing will only make it worseKeyser Soze said:
They can't keep drugs out of prisons - yet some of you think a few more laws or a few more police will do something.
Many problems with the left leaning cities that have been self created problems
Zoning: particularly in San Fran prevents builders from making affordable housing and the quantity of housing needed.
Minimum wage laws prices the very low skilled completely out of a job.
Jinx 2 said:
Part of the problem is that housing in Seattle is not affordable. If you don't have housing, it's hard to keep a job.
Do Texas cities have a large homeless population? My city has one--not huge, but large enough so that panhandling is a real problem and there are regular "cleanups" of tent cities that arise in various places.Our number of homeless has increased in recent years, as--due to an increasing population--the housing supply is less, rents are higher and someone who makes $50K a year can't afford to buy or rent a house without a roommate or spouse with a second income.