Ocasio-Cortez Calls Migrant Detention Centers 'Concentration Camps,' Eliciting Backla

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Let her speak

Ocasio-Cortez Calls Migrant Detention Centers 'Concentration Camps,' Eliciting Backlash

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said her use of the phrase "concentration camps" to refer to migrant detention centers was intentional.

WASHINGTON Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the liberal freshman Democrat from New York who has made fighting for immigrants' rights a signature issue, on Tuesday described the Trump administration's border detention facilities as "concentration camps," provoking backlash from Republicans who said she was minimizing the Holocaust.
"This administration has established concentration camps on the southern border of the United States for immigrants, where they are being brutalized with dehumanizing conditions and dying," Ms. Ocasio-Cortez wrote on Twitter, amplifying comments she had made on her Instagram feed on Monday night.
"This is not hyperbole. It is the conclusion of expert analysis," she added, citing an article in Esquire magazine that quoted a historian of the Holocaust who lectures at the University of Virginia. In the article, the historian, Waitman Wade Beorn, said, "Things can be concentration camps without being Dachau or Auschwitz."
But the invocation of Nazi imagery to describe the administration's handling of immigrants and refugees set off a furor in Washington. Although not all Nazi concentration camps were death camps some were forced labor camps Ms. Ocasio-Cortez's use of the phrase, which she said was intentional, opened the door for attacks from Republicans, led by Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, the sharp-tongued chairwoman of the House Republican Conference.

"Please @AOC do us all a favor and spend just a few minutes learning some actual history," Ms. Cheney wrote on Twitter. "6 million Jews were exterminated in the Holocaust. You demean their memory and disgrace yourself with comments like this."
Representative Lee Zeldin, Republican of New York, who is Jewish, called for Ms. Ocasio-Cortez to "stop trying to draw these crayon parallels between POTUS & Hitler!"
But Representative Jerrold Nadler, Democrat of New York and the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, chimed in to support Ms. Ocasio-Cortez. Mr. Nadler, who is Jewish, tweeted: "One of the lessons from the Holocaust is 'Never Again' - not only to mass murder, but also to the dehumanization of people, violations of basic rights, and assaults on our common morality. We fail to learn that lesson when we don't callout such inhumanity right in front of us."
Ms. Ocasio-Cortez's comments come as debate over American policy toward Israel and how to respond to anti-Semitism is roilingCongress in general and the Democratic Party in particular. Democrats voted this year to condemn all forms of hatred, including anti-Semitism, after a charged debate over Representative Ilhan Omar, a freshman Democrat from Minnesota, who invoked what many said were anti-Semitic tropes in talking about supporters of Israel.
Whether Ms. Ocasio-Cortez's remarks will generate widespread pushback in the Democratic caucus was not immediately clear on Tuesday; many lawmakers were still traveling back to Washington after a long weekend. J Street, the progressive pro-Israel advocacy group, defended the congresswoman.
GoneGirl
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That's what they are: They "concentrate" foreign nationals seeking asylum in camps.

They aren't death camps or labor camps. What else would you call them?
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The girls video is ridiculous. Comes across as a complete bimbo .

Needs to find a way to cash in on her looks while she still can.

Lobbyist

RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Jinx 2 said:

That's what they are: They "concentrate" foreign nationals seeking asylum in camps.

They aren't death camps or labor camps. What else would you call them?
So you are on board, Jinx, and can completely justify her comments? I am very disappointed. By the same token, AOC for President in 2024! LOL!!!
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Jinx 2 said:

That's what they are: They "concentrate" foreign nationals seeking asylum in camps.

They aren't death camps or labor camps. What else would you call them?
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Jinx 2 said:

That's what they are: They "concentrate" foreign nationals seeking asylum in camps.

They aren't death camps or labor camps. What else would you call them?
I don't know, ask Obama - he's the one who put them in cages.
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Jinx 2 said:

That's what they are: They "concentrate" foreign nationals seeking asylum in camps.

They aren't death camps or labor camps. What else would you call them?
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Not wanting to be termed a hypocrite, let me say this seriously:

Her comments are stupid beyond comprehension. AOC should be ashamed of herself. And anybody defending her comments should be ashamed as well.
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pruritus_ani said:

Not wanting to be termed a hypocrite, let me say this seriously:

Her comments are stupid beyond comprehension. AOC should be ashamed of herself. And anybody defending her comments should be ashamed as well.
Wow!! I had almost written you off, Sir. It appears that you have not quite yet ingested the Ultra Liberal Left Socialist Kool-Aid. The fact that you have just rejected the Left Looney Tunes company line tells me maybe there is hope.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

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pruritus_ani said:

Not wanting to be termed a hypocrite, let me say this seriously:

Her comments are stupid beyond comprehension. AOC should be ashamed of herself. And anybody defending her comments should be ashamed as well.
So...why did the user name change from pruritus_ani to fubar?
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90sBear said:

pruritus_ani said:

Not wanting to be termed a hypocrite, let me say this seriously:

Her comments are stupid beyond comprehension. AOC should be ashamed of herself. And anybody defending her comments should be ashamed as well.
So...why did the user name change from pruritus_ani to fubar?
changed back to my old name, which goes waaaaay back on the old site. I'm the same poster as the old "fubar."
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They wanted to come here!!!!! There are so many of them, it is out of control. Why don't you just take trip to the border and see if you can figure it out
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pruritus_ani said:

Not wanting to be termed a hypocrite, let me say this seriously:

Her comments are stupid beyond comprehension. AOC should be ashamed of herself. And anybody defending her comments should be ashamed as well.
Agreed. But AOC is getting 140k likes on Twitter. She's gotten away with campaign violations.

I think she's going to be around for a while.
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Doc Holliday said:

pruritus_ani said:

Not wanting to be termed a hypocrite, let me say this seriously:

Her comments are stupid beyond comprehension. AOC should be ashamed of herself. And anybody defending her comments should be ashamed as well.
Agreed. But AOC is getting 140k likes on Twitter. She's gotten away with campaign violations.

I think she's going to be around for a while.
The fact she got any likes on twitter just highlights the ignorance of her constituents.
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Forest Bueller said:

Doc Holliday said:

pruritus_ani said:

Not wanting to be termed a hypocrite, let me say this seriously:

Her comments are stupid beyond comprehension. AOC should be ashamed of herself. And anybody defending her comments should be ashamed as well.
Agreed. But AOC is getting 140k likes on Twitter. She's gotten away with campaign violations.

I think she's going to be around for a while.
The fact she got any likes on twitter just highlights the ignorance of her constituents.
The ignorance of the world in general.

Everyone wants to be a revolutionary. They want to be praised for being edgy. It's getting our of hand and it's producing people like AOC.
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fubar said:

90sBear said:

pruritus_ani said:

Not wanting to be termed a hypocrite, let me say this seriously:

Her comments are stupid beyond comprehension. AOC should be ashamed of herself. And anybody defending her comments should be ashamed as well.
So...why did the user name change from pruritus_ani to fubar?
changed back to my old name, which goes waaaaay back on the old site. I'm the same poster as the old "fubar."
Gotcha. It just looked weird and I didn't know if there was a glitch.
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Exactly
Doc Holliday
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Wichitabear said:

Exactly
All of them are doing it:

Kamala Harris: White people are ethnically cleansing us by not allowing us to ethnically cleanse them

RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Doc Holliday said:

Wichitabear said:

Exactly
All of them are doing it:

Kamala Harris: White people are ethnically cleansing us by not allowing us to ethnically cleanse them


Kamala is a lock for the Vice Presidential nomination no matter which one of the clowns on the Left comes out on top. She is black and she is a woman. Nothing else of substance like qualifications or ideas really matter.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

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I'm going to guess that Ocasio Cortez is one of Fox's new targets for 24/7 ranting. They sure know how to excite the howler monkey chorus.

A "concentration camp" concentrates a group of people in a single area. A labor camp uses those people as slave labor, possibly working them to death. Lots of German companies, including Volkswagen and IG Farben, used camp labor during WWII. The Soviets and the North Koreans still operate labor camps. A death camp concentrates them in a single place so they can be killed; the worst of the German camps, including Auchwitz, were death camps. We are not operating labor or death camps at the border, but we are operating concentration camps in the literal sense that we are concentrating people seeking asylum in detainment facilities. We also have several taxpayer-funded ICE detention facilities in rural Georgia and elsewhere where immigrants are held indefinitely and effectively denied due process of law. These facilities are located in towns so small they don't even have hotels or grocery stores for 2 reasons: They're a large employer and thus get political support from the state, and their rural location makes it really difficult for family members and lawyers to visit and prohibitively expensive to hire legal counsel, since it can take a couple of days to travel there and meet with your client. The level of cynicism it takes to design a system like that is stunning.

Most people associate the term "concentration camp" with death camps or labor camps. Ocasio-Cortez used an deliberately inflammatory term.

But we built concentration camps for the Japanese during World War II. We called them "internment camps," but they concentrated Americans of Japanese ancestry in camps. We rounded them up, going to the camps wasn't voluntary, and they weren't allowed to leave. Conditions weren't inhumane like they were in the German labor and death camps. But we selected a group of people based on their ancestry and herded them into camps.
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Those detention facilities are so horrible 100,000+ people each month are streaming across the border to spend time there.

Don't recall Jews willfully racing into Germany to be treated as they were.
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Yes, I have seen her on tv spewing her ignorance. My blood pressure gets so high. My nifty little control goes Click!
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Wichitabear said:

Yes, I have seen her on tv spewing her ignorance. My blood pressure gets so high. My nifty little control goes Click!
Don't forget the wise words of Stephen King, "Stupid was a prison they never let you out of, no time off for good behavior, you were in for life".
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Wichitabear said:

Exactly
All of them are doing it:

Kamala Harris: White people are ethnically cleansing us by not allowing us to ethnically cleanse them


Kamala is a lock for the Vice Presidential nomination no matter which one of the clowns on the Left comes out on top. She is black and she is a woman. Nothing else of substance like qualifications or ideas really matter.
And she can update John Nance Garner's famous quote that the Vice Presidency isn't worth a bucket of warm spit.....or swallow.
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Jinx 2 said:

I'm going to guess that Ocasio Cortez is one of Fox's new targets for 24/7 ranting. They sure know how to excite the howler monkey chorus.
Why are Democrats trying to suppress her? Let her speak.
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LMAO!

https://instagr.am/p/By4GzNhgivr
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Here's U.S. Rep Jim McGovern's 2014 report on Obama's detention center:

https://mcgovern.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=396628

And, U.S. Rep Henry Cuellar (D-TX) spilling the beans about OBAMA holding children in cages and that NO ONE would do anything about it.


By contrast, President Trump has been housing these children in safety and comfort until they can be placed back with their verified and actual families and trusted guardians and not released back to coyotes and traffickers like Obama did.
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say it ain't so, AOC..............

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Carve away the stone
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Jinx 2 said:

I'm going to guess that Ocasio Cortez is one of Fox's new targets for 24/7 ranting. They sure know how to excite the howler monkey chorus.

A "concentration camp" concentrates a group of people in a single area. A labor camp uses those people as slave labor, possibly working them to death. Lots of German companies, including Volkswagen and IG Farben, used camp labor during WWII. The Soviets and the North Koreans still operate labor camps. A death camp concentrates them in a single place so they can be killed; the worst of the German camps, including Auchwitz, were death camps. We are not operating labor or death camps at the border, but we are operating concentration camps in the literal sense that we are concentrating people seeking asylum in detainment facilities. We also have several taxpayer-funded ICE detention facilities in rural Georgia and elsewhere where immigrants are held indefinitely and effectively denied due process of law. These facilities are located in towns so small they don't even have hotels or grocery stores for 2 reasons: They're a large employer and thus get political support from the state, and their rural location makes it really difficult for family members and lawyers to visit and prohibitively expensive to hire legal counsel, since it can take a couple of days to travel there and meet with your client. The level of cynicism it takes to design a system like that is stunning.

Most people associate the term "concentration camp" with death camps or labor camps. Ocasio-Cortez used an deliberately inflammatory term.

But we built concentration camps for the Japanese during World War II. We called them "internment camps," but they concentrated Americans of Japanese ancestry in camps. We rounded them up, going to the camps wasn't voluntary, and they weren't allowed to leave. Conditions weren't inhumane like they were in the German labor and death camps. But we selected a group of people based on their ancestry and herded them into camps.

The Japanese internment camps could be called concentration camps because that was truly their purpose - to concentrate and isolate a group of people based on their ethnicity. These border camps are holding people based on their immigration status, not ethnicity, and only while disposition of their cases is pending. They're no more concentration camps than any other detention facility anywhere in the country.
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Sam Lowry said:

Jinx 2 said:

I'm going to guess that Ocasio Cortez is one of Fox's new targets for 24/7 ranting. They sure know how to excite the howler monkey chorus.

A "concentration camp" concentrates a group of people in a single area. A labor camp uses those people as slave labor, possibly working them to death. Lots of German companies, including Volkswagen and IG Farben, used camp labor during WWII. The Soviets and the North Koreans still operate labor camps. A death camp concentrates them in a single place so they can be killed; the worst of the German camps, including Auchwitz, were death camps. We are not operating labor or death camps at the border, but we are operating concentration camps in the literal sense that we are concentrating people seeking asylum in detainment facilities. We also have several taxpayer-funded ICE detention facilities in rural Georgia and elsewhere where immigrants are held indefinitely and effectively denied due process of law. These facilities are located in towns so small they don't even have hotels or grocery stores for 2 reasons: They're a large employer and thus get political support from the state, and their rural location makes it really difficult for family members and lawyers to visit and prohibitively expensive to hire legal counsel, since it can take a couple of days to travel there and meet with your client. The level of cynicism it takes to design a system like that is stunning.

Most people associate the term "concentration camp" with death camps or labor camps. Ocasio-Cortez used an deliberately inflammatory term.

But we built concentration camps for the Japanese during World War II. We called them "internment camps," but they concentrated Americans of Japanese ancestry in camps. We rounded them up, going to the camps wasn't voluntary, and they weren't allowed to leave. Conditions weren't inhumane like they were in the German labor and death camps. But we selected a group of people based on their ancestry and herded them into camps.

The Japanese internment camps could be called concentration camps because that was truly their purpose - to concentrate and isolate a group of people based on their ethnicity. These border camps are holding people based on their immigration status, not ethnicity, and only while disposition of their cases is pending. They're no more concentration camps than any other detention facility anywhere in the country.
But I want to use that terminology to dehumanize the right!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Wichitabear said:

Exactly
All of them are doing it:

Kamala Harris: White people are ethnically cleansing us by not allowing us to ethnically cleanse them


Kamala is a lock for the Vice Presidential nomination no matter which one of the clowns on the Left comes out on top. She is black and she is a woman. Nothing else of substance like qualifications or ideas really matter.
Hey, that strategy worked for Obama, so..........
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Doc Holliday said:

pruritus_ani said:

Not wanting to be termed a hypocrite, let me say this seriously:

Her comments are stupid beyond comprehension. AOC should be ashamed of herself. And anybody defending her comments should be ashamed as well.
Agreed. But AOC is getting 140k likes on Twitter. She's gotten away with campaign violations.

I think she's going to be around for a while.
140,000 likes on twitter could be the result of a handful of people for all we know. It's not like multiple accounts for activists don't exist.

You can't trust any political post that becomes a "lightening rod" having an accurate count of likes and dislikes - especially posts by well known activists.
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Jinx 2 said:

That's what they are: They "concentrate" foreign nationals seeking asylum in camps.

They aren't death camps or labor camps. What else would you call them?


Migrant Detention Centers. It's what they are and it's their name, after all. You Nazis want to change the language to fit you fascist powergrabs.
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Doc Holliday said:

Wichitabear said:

Exactly
All of them are doing it:

Kamala Harris: White people are ethnically cleansing us by not allowing us to ethnically cleanse them




"Attempt to remake demographics"....I'll take 'Projection' for $500, Alex.
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