Waco1947 said:

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Justice - the right to marry and be ordained

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Florda_mike said:

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xiledinok said:

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Do you all think Homecoming attendance will be at an All time high after Baylor announces they will allow LBGTQ group on campus? Could folks Baylor hasn't seen since graduation come back for the big announcement?

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^^^ Stirs the pot

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xiledinok said:

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Florda_mike said:

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xiledinok said:

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Do you all think Homecoming attendance will be at an All time high after Baylor announces they will allow LBGTQ group on campus? Could folks Baylor hasn't seen since graduation come back for the big announcement?

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^^^ Stirs the pot

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There's a Pro Texana part of Baylor and memberships in national organizations that bring more money and value than a donor who only donates to Baylor on Baptist religious principals. Those type of donors are looking for a fundamentalist college to donate. Baylor has never served that purpose.

I think you are posting to stir the pot. When you are going to enroll in Baylor and actually attend a class since you think you have a voice?

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xiledinok said:

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Florda_mike said:

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xiledinok said:

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Do you all think Homecoming attendance will be at an All time high after Baylor announces they will allow LBGTQ group on campus? Could folks Baylor hasn't seen since graduation come back for the big announcement?

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^^^ Stirs the pot

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There's a Pro Texana part of Baylor and memberships in national organizations that bring more money and value than a donor who only donates to Baylor on Baptist religious principals. Those type of donors are looking for a fundamentalist college to donate. Baylor has never served that purpose.

I think you are posting to stir the pot. When you are going to enroll in Baylor and actually attend a class since you think you have a voice?

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Kyle said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Justice - the right to marry and be ordained

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Come on man, answer the question: when did you preach you first sermon calling for gay marriage? Why are you avoiding it? If you have never preached, fair enough, but just say that.


I have never preached for it. My job is to share the good news of Jesus Christ. I have mentioned God does not discriminate in God's love or justice.

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tcbear said:

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The Board nailed it with today's statement. Really proud they had the courage and conviction to stand for God's Word. A great balance between showing compassion towards your fellow man regardless of their sin and God's clearly defined description of sexual intimacy.

The Board and Dr. Livingstone deserve congratulations. Now let's see if the haters will show them the same tolerance and compassion.

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tcbear said:

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The Board nailed it with today's statement. Really proud they had the courage and conviction to stand for God's Word. A great balance between showing compassion towards your fellow man regardless of their sin and God's clearly defined description of sexual intimacy.

The Board and Dr. Livingstone deserve congratulations. Now let's see if the haters will show them the same tolerance and compassion.

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57Bear said:

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Link to actual statement???

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YoakDaddy said:

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tcbear said:

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The Board nailed it with today's statement. Really proud they had the courage and conviction to stand for God's Word. A great balance between showing compassion towards your fellow man regardless of their sin and God's clearly defined description of sexual intimacy.

The Board and Dr. Livingstone deserve congratulations. Now let's see if the haters will show them the same tolerance and compassion.

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What statement? Link?

Never mind. Found it. I like the actual Statement, but Livingstone's statement was PC bull crap.

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Waco1947 said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Waco1947 said:

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tcbear said:

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It is not "certainly unclear" how the bible addresses people who are born homosexual. In fact, it is abundantly clear in Scripture that we are all born with a sin nature. The fact that we all have a propensity to sin does not mean our sin ceases to be sin.

How we battle against our sin nature via reliance on the Lord is what matters.

You have swallowed the false logic of the gay lobby hook, line, and sinker.





True we are all born to sin but homosexuality is not a sin. The Bible only knows homosexual behavior and only in the most idolatrous since - temple prostitution and the Roman and Greek party scene.
Those are abhorrent. Homosexual behavior anal and oral sex outside of marriage is wrong just like for heterosexuals but, like straights, anal and oral sex are ok.
And no Mark is about divorce not the marriage of one and one woman. The Pharisees begin the discussion with a question divorce a man and woman so naturally Jesus answers that question.

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Once again 47 demonstrates:
- He still doesn't know how to use the quote function;
- His failure of reading comprehension skills in light of Romans 1:24-32; and
- His misunderstanding that before there is a divorce, there must be a marriage...between a man and a woman. Irrelevant comment The Pharisees specifically ask about "man and woman." Jesus answered accordingly. You cannot deny it.

I pray for your former congregants that they someday receive the correct teaching.
"Correct teaching" is tainted by your upbringing. You were raised homophobic. I can't help that part of you.
Romans 1: 24-32 is clearly idolatry not homosexuality.

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Forest Bueller said:

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Waco1947 said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Waco1947 said:

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tcbear said:

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It is not "certainly unclear" how the bible addresses people who are born homosexual. In fact, it is abundantly clear in Scripture that we are all born with a sin nature. The fact that we all have a propensity to sin does not mean our sin ceases to be sin.

How we battle against our sin nature via reliance on the Lord is what matters.

You have swallowed the false logic of the gay lobby hook, line, and sinker.





True we are all born to sin but homosexuality is not a sin. The Bible only knows homosexual behavior and only in the most idolatrous since - temple prostitution and the Roman and Greek party scene.
Those are abhorrent. Homosexual behavior anal and oral sex outside of marriage is wrong just like for heterosexuals but, like straights, anal and oral sex are ok.
And no Mark is about divorce not the marriage of one and one woman. The Pharisees begin the discussion with a question divorce a man and woman so naturally Jesus answers that question.

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Once again 47 demonstrates:
- He still doesn't know how to use the quote function;
- His failure of reading comprehension skills in light of Romans 1:24-32; and
- His misunderstanding that before there is a divorce, there must be a marriage...between a man and a woman. Irrelevant comment The Pharisees specifically ask about "man and woman." Jesus answered accordingly. You cannot deny it.

I pray for your former congregants that they someday receive the correct teaching.
"Correct teaching" is tainted by your upbringing. You were raised homophobic. I can't help that part of you.
Romans 1: 24-32 is clearly idolatry not homosexuality.

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Come on Waco, you CAN use the quote function properly! Try it.

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Florda_mike said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Waco1947 said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Waco1947 said:

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tcbear said:

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It is not "certainly unclear" how the bible addresses people who are born homosexual. In fact, it is abundantly clear in Scripture that we are all born with a sin nature. The fact that we all have a propensity to sin does not mean our sin ceases to be sin.

How we battle against our sin nature via reliance on the Lord is what matters.

You have swallowed the false logic of the gay lobby hook, line, and sinker.





True we are all born to sin but homosexuality is not a sin. The Bible only knows homosexual behavior and only in the most idolatrous since - temple prostitution and the Roman and Greek party scene.
Those are abhorrent. Homosexual behavior anal and oral sex outside of marriage is wrong just like for heterosexuals but, like straights, anal and oral sex are ok.
And no Mark is about divorce not the marriage of one and one woman. The Pharisees begin the discussion with a question divorce a man and woman so naturally Jesus answers that question.

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Once again 47 demonstrates:
- He still doesn't know how to use the quote function;
- His failure of reading comprehension skills in light of Romans 1:24-32; and
- His misunderstanding that before there is a divorce, there must be a marriage...between a man and a woman. Irrelevant comment The Pharisees specifically ask about "man and woman." Jesus answered accordingly. You cannot deny it.

I pray for your former congregants that they someday receive the correct teaching.
"Correct teaching" is tainted by your upbringing. You were raised homophobic. I can't help that part of you.
Romans 1: 24-32 is clearly idolatry not homosexuality.

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Come on Waco, you CAN use the quote function properly! Try it.

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No he can't

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cinque said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Waco1947 said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Waco1947 said:

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tcbear said:

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It is not "certainly unclear" how the bible addresses people who are born homosexual. In fact, it is abundantly clear in Scripture that we are all born with a sin nature. The fact that we all have a propensity to sin does not mean our sin ceases to be sin.

How we battle against our sin nature via reliance on the Lord is what matters.

You have swallowed the false logic of the gay lobby hook, line, and sinker.





True we are all born to sin but homosexuality is not a sin. The Bible only knows homosexual behavior and only in the most idolatrous since - temple prostitution and the Roman and Greek party scene.
Those are abhorrent. Homosexual behavior anal and oral sex outside of marriage is wrong just like for heterosexuals but, like straights, anal and oral sex are ok.
And no Mark is about divorce not the marriage of one and one woman. The Pharisees begin the discussion with a question divorce a man and woman so naturally Jesus answers that question.

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Once again 47 demonstrates:
- He still doesn't know how to use the quote function;
- His failure of reading comprehension skills in light of Romans 1:24-32; and
- His misunderstanding that before there is a divorce, there must be a marriage...between a man and a woman. Irrelevant comment The Pharisees specifically ask about "man and woman." Jesus answered accordingly. You cannot deny it.

I pray for your former congregants that they someday receive the correct teaching.
"Correct teaching" is tainted by your upbringing. You were raised homophobic. I can't help that part of you.
Romans 1: 24-32 is clearly idolatry not homosexuality.

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Come on Waco, you CAN use the quote function properly! Try it.

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No he can't

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Chuckle. He graduated.

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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Florda_mike said:

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xiledinok said:

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Do you all think Homecoming attendance will be at an All time high after Baylor announces they will allow LBGTQ group on campus? Could folks Baylor hasn't seen since graduation come back for the big announcement?

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^^^ Stirs the pot

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There's a Pro Texana part of Baylor and memberships in national organizations that bring more money and value than a donor who only donates to Baylor on Baptist religious principals. Those type of donors are looking for a fundamentalist college to donate. Baylor has never served that purpose.

I think you are posting to stir the pot. When you are going to enroll in Baylor and actually attend a class since you think you have a voice?

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X, maybe this should be for another thread but, can you give me YOUR definition of principles? If so, do your principles override a balance sheet or does the balance sheet override principles?
This question is about you and your views, not CAB, BU, BSU, BOR, Stidham, the DAs office etc...

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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Florda_mike said:

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xiledinok said:

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Do you all think Homecoming attendance will be at an All time high after Baylor announces they will allow LBGTQ group on campus? Could folks Baylor hasn't seen since graduation come back for the big announcement?

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^^^ Stirs the pot

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There's a Pro Texana part of Baylor and memberships in national organizations that bring more money and value than a donor who only donates to Baylor on Baptist religious principals. Those type of donors are looking for a fundamentalist college to donate. Baylor has never served that purpose.

I think you are posting to stir the pot. When you are going to enroll in Baylor and actually attend a class since you think you have a voice?

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X, maybe this should be for another thread but, can you give me YOUR definition of principles? If so, do your principles override a balance sheet or does the balance sheet override principles?
This question is about you and your views, not CAB, BU, BSU, BOR, Stidham, the DAs office etc...

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Why would you even try to questions someone's principles by bringing up their views on CAB? BOR? DA office? A football transfer with a big ego?

Once you understand Baylor is in the school business, not the church business, you will understand why they are doing it.

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You could have simply said "I choose not to answer."

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YoakDaddy said:

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Waco1947 said:

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As Matthew 25 reminds us ----Jesus in is every outcast and child. He ate with sinners, prostitutes, tax collectors and other outcasts.
He loved them all. He welcomed them all. Regardless of your personal morals, I think Jesus would welcome the LGBTQ community with open arms.
I don't believe being gay or homosexual behavior in marriage is a sin. But even if you do why exclude those Jesus would accept. You could always work to "save" them. Although you will do more harm than good.

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Nobody is saying that Jesus wouldn't love gays or would exclude gays anymore than He would anyone else. We are called to love one another, but we are not called to accept and normalize sin as part of demonstrating that love.

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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Florda_mike said:

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xiledinok said:

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Do you all think Homecoming attendance will be at an All time high after Baylor announces they will allow LBGTQ group on campus? Could folks Baylor hasn't seen since graduation come back for the big announcement?

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^^^ Stirs the pot

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There's a Pro Texana part of Baylor and memberships in national organizations that bring more money and value than a donor who only donates to Baylor on Baptist religious principals. Those type of donors are looking for a fundamentalist college to donate. Baylor has never served that purpose.

I think you are posting to stir the pot. When you are going to enroll in Baylor and actually attend a class since you think you have a voice?

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X, maybe this should be for another thread but, can you give me YOUR definition of principles? If so, do your principles override a balance sheet or does the balance sheet override principles?
This question is about you and your views, not CAB, BU, BSU, BOR, Stidham, the DAs office etc...

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Why would you even try to questions someone's principles by bringing up their views on CAB? BOR? DA office? A football transfer with a big ego?

Once you understand Baylor is in the school business, not the church business, you will understand why they are doing it.

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You could have simply said "I choose not to answer."

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It's all about giving you the answer you do not want to read. I'm not going to feed you a Biblical reasoning to exclude. It won't work at a major school.
Do you normally walk out of restaurants, public places or anywhere people breathe if you encounter a gay and lesbian?

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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Florda_mike said:

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xiledinok said:

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Do you all think Homecoming attendance will be at an All time high after Baylor announces they will allow LBGTQ group on campus? Could folks Baylor hasn't seen since graduation come back for the big announcement?

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^^^ Stirs the pot

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There's a Pro Texana part of Baylor and memberships in national organizations that bring more money and value than a donor who only donates to Baylor on Baptist religious principals. Those type of donors are looking for a fundamentalist college to donate. Baylor has never served that purpose.

I think you are posting to stir the pot. When you are going to enroll in Baylor and actually attend a class since you think you have a voice?

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X, maybe this should be for another thread but, can you give me YOUR definition of principles? If so, do your principles override a balance sheet or does the balance sheet override principles?
This question is about you and your views, not CAB, BU, BSU, BOR, Stidham, the DAs office etc...

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Why would you even try to questions someone's principles by bringing up their views on CAB? BOR? DA office? A football transfer with a big ego?

Once you understand Baylor is in the school business, not the church business, you will understand why they are doing it.

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You could have simply said "I choose not to answer."

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It's all about giving you the answer you do not want to read. I'm not going to feed you a Biblical reasoning to exclude. It won't work at a major school.
Do you normally walk out of restaurants, public places or anywhere people breathe if you encounter a gay and lesbian?

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Why would I walk away from someone because their sin is different from my sin?

We are all sinners. We are not all required to have the same sin.

Jesus said "Go, and sin no more." He said nothing about redefining sin.

This is why I asked about your principles. At some point you will be or have been put into a position where you have to decide whether or not to go against your principles. Is fudging billable hours the same as stealing? Is being purposefully misleading the same as a lie? Should people expect you to stand by your principles. Should people expect a Baptist University to stand by theirs?

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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Florda_mike said:

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xiledinok said:

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Do you all think Homecoming attendance will be at an All time high after Baylor announces they will allow LBGTQ group on campus? Could folks Baylor hasn't seen since graduation come back for the big announcement?

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^^^ Stirs the pot

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There's a Pro Texana part of Baylor and memberships in national organizations that bring more money and value than a donor who only donates to Baylor on Baptist religious principals. Those type of donors are looking for a fundamentalist college to donate. Baylor has never served that purpose.

I think you are posting to stir the pot. When you are going to enroll in Baylor and actually attend a class since you think you have a voice?

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X, maybe this should be for another thread but, can you give me YOUR definition of principles? If so, do your principles override a balance sheet or does the balance sheet override principles?
This question is about you and your views, not CAB, BU, BSU, BOR, Stidham, the DAs office etc...

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Why would you even try to questions someone's principles by bringing up their views on CAB? BOR? DA office? A football transfer with a big ego?

Once you understand Baylor is in the school business, not the church business, you will understand why they are doing it.

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You could have simply said "I choose not to answer."

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It's all about giving you the answer you do not want to read. I'm not going to feed you a Biblical reasoning to exclude. It won't work at a major school.
Do you normally walk out of restaurants, public places or anywhere people breathe if you encounter a gay and lesbian?

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Why would I walk away from someone because their sin is different from my sin?

We are all sinners. We are not all required to have the same sin.

Jesus said "Go, and sin no more." He said nothing about redefining sin.

This is why I asked about your principles. At some point you will be or have been put into a position where you have to decide whether or not to go against your principles. Is fudging billable hours the same as stealing? Is being purposefully misleading the same as a lie? Should people expect you to stand by your principles. Should people expect a Baptist University to stand by theirs?

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The Baptist University should do whatever is best for the school. If the Big 12 or big accreditation says do it, then sign those gays up. Baylor is a school. Not everyone is going to Baylor to live by the Baptist Standard.

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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Florda_mike said:

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xiledinok said:

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Do you all think Homecoming attendance will be at an All time high after Baylor announces they will allow LBGTQ group on campus? Could folks Baylor hasn't seen since graduation come back for the big announcement?

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^^^ Stirs the pot

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There's a Pro Texana part of Baylor and memberships in national organizations that bring more money and value than a donor who only donates to Baylor on Baptist religious principals. Those type of donors are looking for a fundamentalist college to donate. Baylor has never served that purpose.

I think you are posting to stir the pot. When you are going to enroll in Baylor and actually attend a class since you think you have a voice?

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X, maybe this should be for another thread but, can you give me YOUR definition of principles? If so, do your principles override a balance sheet or does the balance sheet override principles?
This question is about you and your views, not CAB, BU, BSU, BOR, Stidham, the DAs office etc...

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Why would you even try to questions someone's principles by bringing up their views on CAB? BOR? DA office? A football transfer with a big ego?

Once you understand Baylor is in the school business, not the church business, you will understand why they are doing it.

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You could have simply said "I choose not to answer."

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It's all about giving you the answer you do not want to read. I'm not going to feed you a Biblical reasoning to exclude. It won't work at a major school.
Do you normally walk out of restaurants, public places or anywhere people breathe if you encounter a gay and lesbian?

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Why would I walk away from someone because their sin is different from my sin?

We are all sinners. We are not all required to have the same sin.

Jesus said "Go, and sin no more." He said nothing about redefining sin.

This is why I asked about your principles. At some point you will be or have been put into a position where you have to decide whether or not to go against your principles. Is fudging billable hours the same as stealing? Is being purposefully misleading the same as a lie? Should people expect you to stand by your principles. Should people expect a Baptist University to stand by theirs?

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The Baptist University should do whatever is best for the school. If the Big 12 or big accreditation says do it, then sign those gays up. Baylor is a school. Not everyone is going to Baylor to live by the Baptist Standard.

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So, if I'm reading you correctly, money/status/ranking ahead of principles? Is that correct?

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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Florda_mike said:

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xiledinok said:

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Do you all think Homecoming attendance will be at an All time high after Baylor announces they will allow LBGTQ group on campus? Could folks Baylor hasn't seen since graduation come back for the big announcement?

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^^^ Stirs the pot

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There's a Pro Texana part of Baylor and memberships in national organizations that bring more money and value than a donor who only donates to Baylor on Baptist religious principals. Those type of donors are looking for a fundamentalist college to donate. Baylor has never served that purpose.

I think you are posting to stir the pot. When you are going to enroll in Baylor and actually attend a class since you think you have a voice?

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X, maybe this should be for another thread but, can you give me YOUR definition of principles? If so, do your principles override a balance sheet or does the balance sheet override principles?
This question is about you and your views, not CAB, BU, BSU, BOR, Stidham, the DAs office etc...

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Why would you even try to questions someone's principles by bringing up their views on CAB? BOR? DA office? A football transfer with a big ego?

Once you understand Baylor is in the school business, not the church business, you will understand why they are doing it.

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You could have simply said "I choose not to answer."

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It's all about giving you the answer you do not want to read. I'm not going to feed you a Biblical reasoning to exclude. It won't work at a major school.
Do you normally walk out of restaurants, public places or anywhere people breathe if you encounter a gay and lesbian?

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Why would I walk away from someone because their sin is different from my sin?

We are all sinners. We are not all required to have the same sin.

Jesus said "Go, and sin no more." He said nothing about redefining sin.

This is why I asked about your principles. At some point you will be or have been put into a position where you have to decide whether or not to go against your principles. Is fudging billable hours the same as stealing? Is being purposefully misleading the same as a lie? Should people expect you to stand by your principles. Should people expect a Baptist University to stand by theirs?

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The Baptist University should do whatever is best for the school. If the Big 12 or big accreditation says do it, then sign those gays up. Baylor is a school. Not everyone is going to Baylor to live by the Baptist Standard.

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So, if I'm reading you correctly, money/status/ranking ahead of principles? Is that correct?

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The school is in the school business. I have no issues with the recognizing them.
Unfortunately for the super Baptist, Baylor is conservative but not really for the religious super Baptist.

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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xiledinok said:

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Florda_mike said:

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xiledinok said:

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Do you all think Homecoming attendance will be at an All time high after Baylor announces they will allow LBGTQ group on campus? Could folks Baylor hasn't seen since graduation come back for the big announcement?

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^^^ Stirs the pot

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There's a Pro Texana part of Baylor and memberships in national organizations that bring more money and value than a donor who only donates to Baylor on Baptist religious principals. Those type of donors are looking for a fundamentalist college to donate. Baylor has never served that purpose.

I think you are posting to stir the pot. When you are going to enroll in Baylor and actually attend a class since you think you have a voice?

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X, maybe this should be for another thread but, can you give me YOUR definition of principles? If so, do your principles override a balance sheet or does the balance sheet override principles?
This question is about you and your views, not CAB, BU, BSU, BOR, Stidham, the DAs office etc...

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Why would you even try to questions someone's principles by bringing up their views on CAB? BOR? DA office? A football transfer with a big ego?

Once you understand Baylor is in the school business, not the church business, you will understand why they are doing it.

---

You could have simply said "I choose not to answer."

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It's all about giving you the answer you do not want to read. I'm not going to feed you a Biblical reasoning to exclude. It won't work at a major school.
Do you normally walk out of restaurants, public places or anywhere people breathe if you encounter a gay and lesbian?

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Why would I walk away from someone because their sin is different from my sin?

We are all sinners. We are not all required to have the same sin.

Jesus said "Go, and sin no more." He said nothing about redefining sin.

This is why I asked about your principles. At some point you will be or have been put into a position where you have to decide whether or not to go against your principles. Is fudging billable hours the same as stealing? Is being purposefully misleading the same as a lie? Should people expect you to stand by your principles. Should people expect a Baptist University to stand by theirs?

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The Baptist University should do whatever is best for the school. If the Big 12 or big accreditation says do it, then sign those gays up. Baylor is a school. Not everyone is going to Baylor to live by the Baptist Standard.

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So, if I'm reading you correctly, money/status/ranking ahead of principles? Is that correct?

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The school is in the school business. I have no issues with the recognizing them.
Unfortunately for the super Baptist, Baylor is conservative but not really for the religious super Baptist.

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