Anybody Want To Defend This?

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fubar
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"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America
PartyBear
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The lack of condemnation is support for this smear against American Jews. I swear the GOP will find itself out of business post Trump for acquiescing with white nationalism and now an attack on American Jews calling them disloyal for being blue voters for the most part.
Oldbear83
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Judging by comments from the Squad, Trump may be right.

But since you've worn out 'racist' by now, no wonder you are trying out 'anti-semite' for your latest false charge.
PartyBear
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Well fubar you found one so far who would explicitly defend it rather than support it by remaining silent.
EatMoreSalmon
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More a smear of the Democratic Party.
fubar
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PartyBear said:

Well fubar you found one so far who would explicitly defend it rather than support it by remaining silent.
There will be others.
bearassnekkid
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fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America


Defend the comment, or defend against your disingenuous assertion of what it means?
fubar
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bearassnekkid said:

fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America


Defend the comment, or defend against your disingenuous assertion of what it means?
I made no assertion. I simply posted the quote and asked a question.

Do you wish to defend what the President of the United States said?
Sam Lowry
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fubar said:

bearassnekkid said:

fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America


Defend the comment, or defend against your disingenuous assertion of what it means?
I made no assertion. I simply posted the quote and asked a question.
Yes:

https://jewishinsider.com/2019/08/jewish-groups-react-to-trumps-latest-comments-on-american-jewish-voters/

https://twitter.com/RJC

william
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fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America
jus' leave our donny alone, mister fancy pants.

- KKM

... unless you is the choosed one.

{ sipping big red }

ps: ain't skeered.

pps: ain't showered.


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Johnny Bear
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fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America
The comment is dead on accurate and the "disloyalty" he's referring to has to do with Isreal (not the USA). The democrat party is now clearly the party of anti-Semitism just like it is traditionally the party of slavery, segregation, and Jim Crow. All you have to do to realize that is listen to virulent anti-semites like Tlaib and Omar (among others). I know it drives you lefties even crazier than you already are that we have a POTUS with the courage and conviction to call the democrat party out for what it is and also (in this case) call out Jewish voters for what in fact they are supporting, but get over it - we do - and that's going to continue to be the case for at least about 5 1/2 more years.
robby44
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fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America

Kind of an odd statement considering American Jews tend to favor Democrat candidates, with 71% of Jewish voters choosing Democrat candidates and only 25% choosing Republicans since 1968.
codyorr
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Are some Democrats antisemitic? Yes.
Are some Republicans antisemitic? Yes.
Does criticizing Israel make you antisemitic? Not necessarily.
Does unconditionally accepting everything Israel does make you non-antisemitic? Not necessarily.
cowboycwr
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Sure. Right after someone explains all the comments about blacks, hispanics, gays, etc voting for Republicans.

Or stinques stupid thread about black trump supporters.

Or the comments about how us white men are evil and the problem.
Sam Lowry
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"I think the further the Democrats shift to the left, the harder it is for any religious person to align with them." -Elizabeth Pipko

https://www.foxnews.com/media/model-encouraging-jews-to-leave-democratic-party-calls-trump-american-jews-best-friend
fadskier
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fubar said:

bearassnekkid said:

fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America


Defend the comment, or defend against your disingenuous assertion of what it means?
I made no assertion. I simply posted the quote and asked a question.

Do you wish to defend what the President of the United States said?
Why does it need to be defended or condemned? I have no issue with his saying that...is there something wrong with it?
Salute the Marines - Joe Biden
riflebear
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fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America
I'd take it a step further. ANYONE who votes for a radical/socialist Democrat needs to have their head examined, I don't care what your race/religion is, but that's just me.
cinque
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cowboycwr said:

Sure. Right after someone explains all the comments about blacks, hispanics, gays, etc voting for Republicans.

Or stinques stupid thread about black trump supporters.

Or the comments about how us white men are evil and the problem.
The Root article on Trump voters was on point. People like you should be exposed to black media and black thought nor centered around buffoons like Cindy Owens and diamond and silk.
fadskier
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cowboycwr said:

Sure. Right after someone explains all the comments about blacks, hispanics, gays, etc voting for Republicans.

Or stinques stupid thread about black trump supporters.

Or the comments about how us white men are evil and the problem.
They can't handle when someone like Candace Owens busts their narrative. Cinque likes being the victim. That way, nothing is her fault. Her lack of job, etc...
Salute the Marines - Joe Biden
quash
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Sam Lowry said:

fubar said:

bearassnekkid said:

fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America


Defend the comment, or defend against your disingenuous assertion of what it means?
I made no assertion. I simply posted the quote and asked a question.
Yes:

https://jewishinsider.com/2019/08/jewish-groups-react-to-trumps-latest-comments-on-american-jewish-voters/

https://twitter.com/RJC


From the JI link.

Jewish groups:
The American Jewish Committee condemned the president's comments. AJC CEO David Harris said the president's comments are "shockingly divisive and unbecoming of the occupant of the highest elected office. American Jews like all Americans have a range of political views and policy priorities. His assessment of their knowledge or 'loyalty,' based on their party preference, is inappropriate, unwelcome, and downright dangerous."
Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblatt tweeted, "It's unclear who POTUS is claiming Jews would be 'disloyal' to, but charges of disloyalty have long been used to attack Jews. As we've said before, it's possible to engage in the democratic process without these claims. It's long overdue to stop using Jews as a political football."
Logan Bayroff, J Street's director of communications, said in a statement: "It is no surprise that the president's racist, disingenuous attacks on progressive women of color in Congress have now transitioned into smears against Jews."
Israel Policy Forum said on Twitter that Trump's comments "are appalling but unsurprising given his record of inappropriate remarks as well as his efforts to leverage Israel as a wedge issue in U.S. politics."
The Zioness Movement released a statement saying that the president "casually employed several of the most explicitly antisemitic conspiracy theories in the same breath. This is the kind of bigotry that has sparked humanity's worst impulses and greatest catastrophes."
The Bend the Arc Jewish activist group wrote that Trump's statement is "textbook antisemitism and should be called out as such, without hesitation."
Earlier on Tuesday, in an interview on Fox News' "America's Newsroom," White House deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley said that Trump reserves the right to escalate his attacks against the Democratic congresswomen because he "is standing up for the American people, he's standing up for our ally in Israel, but these two women are clearly against the existence even of Israel."
Gidley went on to slam the "disingenuous" media for refusing "to call out antisemitism for what it is The Democrats are encouraging this behavior and the media are allowing it to happen."
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
quash
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fadskier said:

fubar said:

bearassnekkid said:

fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America


Defend the comment, or defend against your disingenuous assertion of what it means?
I made no assertion. I simply posted the quote and asked a question.

Do you wish to defend what the President of the United States said?
Why does it need to be defended or condemned? I have no issue with his saying that...is there something wrong with it?
Mr Magoo wants his glasses back.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
riflebear
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fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America
This is fun - what's your next faux topic?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/17/politics/obama-black-congressional-caucus/index.html

"I will consider it a personal insult -- an insult to my legacy -- if the black community lets down its guard and fails to activate itself in this election. You want to give me a good sendoff?" Vote for Hillary

Barack H. Obama
'Former' President of the United States of America (Sept 2016)
codyorr
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riflebear said:

fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America
This is fun - what's your next faux topic?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/17/politics/obama-black-congressional-caucus/index.html

"I will consider it a personal insult -- an insult to my legacy -- if the black community lets down its guard and fails to activate itself in this election. You want to give me a good sendoff?" Vote for Hillary

Barack H. Obama
'Former' President of the United States of America (Sept 2016)

While both are guilty of playing identity politics, I think the tone is markedly different between the two statements.
riflebear
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codyorr said:

riflebear said:

fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America
This is fun - what's your next faux topic?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/17/politics/obama-black-congressional-caucus/index.html

"I will consider it a personal insult -- an insult to my legacy -- if the black community lets down its guard and fails to activate itself in this election. You want to give me a good sendoff?" Vote for Hillary

Barack H. Obama
'Former' President of the United States of America (Sept 2016)

While both are guilty of playing identity politics, I think the tone is markedly different between the two statements.
You're right - Obama's was 100% racist.
Trump was just saying because of the Fab 4's anti semitic anti Israel/Jewish statements, it would be an insult if they voted for the Democrat party who is not calling them out on their racist remarks.

Trump's similar comment to Obama would be...

Imagine if Trump said it would be an insult to my legacy if White people didn't vote for the next Republican. Could you imagine the outrage.
Sam Lowry
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quash said:

Sam Lowry said:

fubar said:

bearassnekkid said:

fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America


Defend the comment, or defend against your disingenuous assertion of what it means?
I made no assertion. I simply posted the quote and asked a question.
Yes:

https://jewishinsider.com/2019/08/jewish-groups-react-to-trumps-latest-comments-on-american-jewish-voters/

https://twitter.com/RJC


From the JI link.

Jewish groups:
The American Jewish Committee condemned the president's comments. AJC CEO David Harris said the president's comments are "shockingly divisive and unbecoming of the occupant of the highest elected office. American Jews like all Americans have a range of political views and policy priorities. His assessment of their knowledge or 'loyalty,' based on their party preference, is inappropriate, unwelcome, and downright dangerous."
Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblatt tweeted, "It's unclear who POTUS is claiming Jews would be 'disloyal' to, but charges of disloyalty have long been used to attack Jews. As we've said before, it's possible to engage in the democratic process without these claims. It's long overdue to stop using Jews as a political football."
Logan Bayroff, J Street's director of communications, said in a statement: "It is no surprise that the president's racist, disingenuous attacks on progressive women of color in Congress have now transitioned into smears against Jews."
Israel Policy Forum said on Twitter that Trump's comments "are appalling but unsurprising given his record of inappropriate remarks as well as his efforts to leverage Israel as a wedge issue in U.S. politics."
The Zioness Movement released a statement saying that the president "casually employed several of the most explicitly antisemitic conspiracy theories in the same breath. This is the kind of bigotry that has sparked humanity's worst impulses and greatest catastrophes."
The Bend the Arc Jewish activist group wrote that Trump's statement is "textbook antisemitism and should be called out as such, without hesitation."
Earlier on Tuesday, in an interview on Fox News' "America's Newsroom," White House deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley said that Trump reserves the right to escalate his attacks against the Democratic congresswomen because he "is standing up for the American people, he's standing up for our ally in Israel, but these two women are clearly against the existence even of Israel."
Gidley went on to slam the "disingenuous" media for refusing "to call out antisemitism for what it is The Democrats are encouraging this behavior and the media are allowing it to happen."
And:
Quote:

The Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC) defended the president. "It shows a great deal of disloyalty to oneself to defend a party that protects/emboldens people that hate you for your religion," the RJC tweeted.

Matt Brooks, RJC's executive director, tells JI: "Of course the president was not trafficking in dual loyalty and antisemitism. The reality is that what the president gave voice to is a question that I get all the time in all of my speeches, in large part from folks who aren't Jewish and want to understand how people in the Jewish community given the issues that are important to them can support the policies of individuals like Omar and Tlaib. You know, it's a question that has a lot of people scratching their heads."
Florda_mike
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fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America


Fubar, the idiot!
Oldbear83
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quash said:

fadskier said:

fubar said:

bearassnekkid said:

fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America


Defend the comment, or defend against your disingenuous assertion of what it means?
I made no assertion. I simply posted the quote and asked a question.

Do you wish to defend what the President of the United States said?
Why does it need to be defended or condemned? I have no issue with his saying that...is there something wrong with it?
Mr Magoo wants his glasses back.
Well, why'd you take them in the first place, quash?
fubar
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fubar said:

PartyBear said:

Well fubar you found one so far who would explicitly defend it rather than support it by remaining silent.
There will be others.
Told ya.
PartyBear
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Fubar this has gone Manson Family at this point. This is a bizarre cult.
Oldbear83
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PartyBear said:

Fubar this has gone Manson Family at this point. This is a bizarre cult.
A little strong, but the stuff coming from AOC, pretty much all the Dem's POTUS candidates, yeah the Left is getting to be like the Manson zombies all right.
Forest Bueller
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codyorr said:

riflebear said:

fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America
This is fun - what's your next faux topic?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/17/politics/obama-black-congressional-caucus/index.html

"I will consider it a personal insult -- an insult to my legacy -- if the black community lets down its guard and fails to activate itself in this election. You want to give me a good sendoff?" Vote for Hillary

Barack H. Obama
'Former' President of the United States of America (Sept 2016)

While both are guilty of playing identity politics, I think the tone is markedly different between the two statements.
No, not really. They are both being dumbasses, but you like Obama and hate Trump so I get it.
codyorr
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Forest Bueller said:

codyorr said:

riflebear said:

fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America
This is fun - what's your next faux topic?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/17/politics/obama-black-congressional-caucus/index.html

"I will consider it a personal insult -- an insult to my legacy -- if the black community lets down its guard and fails to activate itself in this election. You want to give me a good sendoff?" Vote for Hillary

Barack H. Obama
'Former' President of the United States of America (Sept 2016)

While both are guilty of playing identity politics, I think the tone is markedly different between the two statements.
No, not really. They are both being dumbasses, but you like Obama and hate Trump so I get it.

Eh. I'm closer to ambivalent on Obama. But I'm less offended than, "this would be an insult to me if you do X" than "people who do X are disloyal to their people or dumb".
Baylor3216
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Oops. From Skinny O

Any defense???

Oldbear83
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codyorr said:

Forest Bueller said:

codyorr said:

riflebear said:

fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America
This is fun - what's your next faux topic?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/17/politics/obama-black-congressional-caucus/index.html

"I will consider it a personal insult -- an insult to my legacy -- if the black community lets down its guard and fails to activate itself in this election. You want to give me a good sendoff?" Vote for Hillary

Barack H. Obama
'Former' President of the United States of America (Sept 2016)

While both are guilty of playing identity politics, I think the tone is markedly different between the two statements.
No, not really. They are both being dumbasses, but you like Obama and hate Trump so I get it.

Eh. I'm closer to ambivalent on Obama. But I'm less offended than, "this would be an insult to me if you do X" than "people who do X are disloyal to their people or dumb".
Oh, so you forgot mister "I have a pen and a phone"

You forgot "elections have consequences"

You forgot "we are the change we have been waiting for"

Presidents have a lot of confidence, but Barack Obama majored in chutzpah.
codyorr
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Oldbear83 said:

codyorr said:

Forest Bueller said:

codyorr said:

riflebear said:

fubar said:

"I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America
This is fun - what's your next faux topic?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/17/politics/obama-black-congressional-caucus/index.html

"I will consider it a personal insult -- an insult to my legacy -- if the black community lets down its guard and fails to activate itself in this election. You want to give me a good sendoff?" Vote for Hillary

Barack H. Obama
'Former' President of the United States of America (Sept 2016)

While both are guilty of playing identity politics, I think the tone is markedly different between the two statements.
No, not really. They are both being dumbasses, but you like Obama and hate Trump so I get it.

Eh. I'm closer to ambivalent on Obama. But I'm less offended than, "this would be an insult to me if you do X" than "people who do X are disloyal to their people or dumb".
Oh, so you forgot mister "I have a pen and a phone"

You forgot "elections have consequences"

You forgot "we are the change we have been waiting for"

Presidents have a lot of confidence, but Barack Obama majored in chutzpah.

I'm not sure what any of your references have to do with the two quotes I mentioned above.
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