The Washington Post: 'You're a bunch of dopes and babies': Inside Trump's tirade

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TexasScientist
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You're a bunch of dopes and babies': Inside Trump's stunning tirade against generals
The new book "A Very Stable Genius" documents how Trump lashed out at attempts by military leaders and diplomats to teach him about U.S. alliances and obligations around the globe.

Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AgjLcLQRWT3SuR4lC1YWTig
Canada2017
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Absolutely shocking....and the Washington Post has always been such a staunch supporter of Trump.

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It has become pretty apparent in recent years, that the upper echelon of the military seems to lean on the Liberal side. Kinda similar to the upper ranks of the FBI, DOJ, and CIA.

"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
GoneGirl
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So there sits Trump with his elaborate coif of fake sprayed blond hair, his metrosexual bronzer staining the collar of his shirt, and his golf-boy paunch calling a roomful of military brass who look and act like real men "babies."

It probably took all the military discipline they could muster not to give him a well-deserved ass-whooping.
Kyle
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When the Dow hits records, unemployment hits record lows, new, favorable trade deals are signed, Iran is cowed ... must find some reason to satiate TDSers with red meat outrage for the Idiocracy.
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Jinx 2 said:

So there sits Trump with his elaborate coif of fake sprayed blond hair, his metrosexual bronzer staining the collar of his shirt, and his golf-boy paunch calling a roomful of military brass who look and act like real men "babies."

It probably took all the military discipline they could muster not to give him a well-deserved ass-whooping.
Do you realize you never actually make substantive arguments but just defer to personal attacks? Do you think these emotional screeds make you appear intelligent or rational?
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Kyle said:

Jinx 2 said:

So there sits Trump with his elaborate coif of fake sprayed blond hair, his metrosexual bronzer staining the collar of his shirt, and his golf-boy paunch calling a roomful of military brass who look and act like real men "babies."

It probably took all the military discipline they could muster not to give him a well-deserved ass-whooping.
Do you realize you never actually make substantive arguments but just defer to personal attacks? Do you think these emotional screeds make you appear intelligent or rational?
Darlin', I offered an accurate, if unflattering description of a POTUS's meeting with our top military brass.

There's a huge irony in your calling me out for emotional screeds and personal attacks when this thread is about Trump launching an emotional screed of personal attack on our top military brass, calling them "dopes" and "babies."

Do you realize that Trump never makes substantive arguements but just defers to personal attacks?

Do you think those emotional screeds make him appear intelligent or rational?

You're back on ingore, along with the other tireless Trump cheerleaders.
Canada2017
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Kyle said:

Jinx 2 said:

So there sits Trump with his elaborate coif of fake sprayed blond hair, his metrosexual bronzer staining the collar of his shirt, and his golf-boy paunch calling a roomful of military brass who look and act like real men "babies."

It probably took all the military discipline they could muster not to give him a well-deserved ass-whooping.
Do you realize you never actually make substantive arguments but just defer to personal attacks? Do you think these emotional screeds make you appear intelligent or rational?


Jinxy has always had a massive double standard in regards to her comments .

And she's far too old to change now.
ScottS
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I stopped reading at compost
Sam Lowry
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TexasScientist said:

You're a bunch of dopes and babies': Inside Trump's stunning tirade against generals
The new book "A Very Stable Genius" documents how Trump lashed out at attempts by military leaders and diplomats to teach him about U.S. alliances and obligations around the globe.

Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AgjLcLQRWT3SuR4lC1YWTig
I'm sure Trump could use some education on military matters and many other things, but in this case it looks like the generals' presentation was more about advocating policy.

I would write this story from the opposite point of view. I think it's the generals who don't understand why we have civilian control of the military. If Trump is questioning the post-war international order, it's because he was elected to do so.
Bearitto
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TexasScientist said:

You're a bunch of dopes and babies': Inside Trump's stunning tirade against generals
The new book "A Very Stable Genius" documents how Trump lashed out at attempts by military leaders and diplomats to teach him about U.S. alliances and obligations around the globe.

Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AgjLcLQRWT3SuR4lC1YWTig


Interesting way to admit Trump was correct and they were all wrong.
TexasScientist
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Sam Lowry said:

TexasScientist said:

You're a bunch of dopes and babies': Inside Trump's stunning tirade against generals
The new book "A Very Stable Genius" documents how Trump lashed out at attempts by military leaders and diplomats to teach him about U.S. alliances and obligations around the globe.

Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AgjLcLQRWT3SuR4lC1YWTig
I'm sure Trump could use some education on military matters and many other things, but in this case it looks like the generals' presentation was more about advocating policy.

I would write this story from the opposite point of view. I think it's the generals who don't understand why we have civilian control of the military. If Trump is questioning the post-war international order, it's because he was elected to do so.
More telling is Trump's unstable personality, and his inability to listen to anyone other than his own in the moment whims. That's why he has no consistent view, vision, or even understanding of foreign policy, much less world history, and historical contexts. ("Kurds didn't help at Normandy")
Bearitto
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TexasScientist said:

Sam Lowry said:

TexasScientist said:

You're a bunch of dopes and babies': Inside Trump's stunning tirade against generals
The new book "A Very Stable Genius" documents how Trump lashed out at attempts by military leaders and diplomats to teach him about U.S. alliances and obligations around the globe.

Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AgjLcLQRWT3SuR4lC1YWTig
I'm sure Trump could use some education on military matters and many other things, but in this case it looks like the generals' presentation was more about advocating policy.

I would write this story from the opposite point of view. I think it's the generals who don't understand why we have civilian control of the military. If Trump is questioning the post-war international order, it's because he was elected to do so.
More telling is Trump's unstable personality, and his inability to listen to anyone other than his own in the moment whims. That's why he has no consistent view, vision, or even understanding of foreign policy, much less world history, and historical contexts. ("Kurds didn't help at Normandy")


Except at virtually every turn, Trump has been correct and the "experts" have been proven wrong. I guess he just keeps getting lucky again and again and again and again. And again.
TexasScientist
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Bearitto said:

TexasScientist said:

Sam Lowry said:

TexasScientist said:

You're a bunch of dopes and babies': Inside Trump's stunning tirade against generals
The new book "A Very Stable Genius" documents how Trump lashed out at attempts by military leaders and diplomats to teach him about U.S. alliances and obligations around the globe.

Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AgjLcLQRWT3SuR4lC1YWTig
I'm sure Trump could use some education on military matters and many other things, but in this case it looks like the generals' presentation was more about advocating policy.

I would write this story from the opposite point of view. I think it's the generals who don't understand why we have civilian control of the military. If Trump is questioning the post-war international order, it's because he was elected to do so.
More telling is Trump's unstable personality, and his inability to listen to anyone other than his own in the moment whims. That's why he has no consistent view, vision, or even understanding of foreign policy, much less world history, and historical contexts. ("Kurds didn't help at Normandy")


Except at virtually every turn, Trump has been correct and the "experts" have been proven wrong. I guess he just keeps getting lucky again and again and again and again. And again.
Examples?
Bearitto
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TexasScientist said:

Bearitto said:

TexasScientist said:

Sam Lowry said:

TexasScientist said:

You're a bunch of dopes and babies': Inside Trump's stunning tirade against generals
The new book "A Very Stable Genius" documents how Trump lashed out at attempts by military leaders and diplomats to teach him about U.S. alliances and obligations around the globe.

Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AgjLcLQRWT3SuR4lC1YWTig
I'm sure Trump could use some education on military matters and many other things, but in this case it looks like the generals' presentation was more about advocating policy.

I would write this story from the opposite point of view. I think it's the generals who don't understand why we have civilian control of the military. If Trump is questioning the post-war international order, it's because he was elected to do so.
More telling is Trump's unstable personality, and his inability to listen to anyone other than his own in the moment whims. That's why he has no consistent view, vision, or even understanding of foreign policy, much less world history, and historical contexts. ("Kurds didn't help at Normandy")


Except at virtually every turn, Trump has been correct and the "experts" have been proven wrong. I guess he just keeps getting lucky again and again and again and again. And again.
Examples?


China - Win (best trade deal in ever and certainly better than TPP)
Iran - Win (deterred for first time in decades)
Syria - Win (ISIS subdued, no more support for "white helmet" Trojan horses)
NATO - Win (Paying far more than ever before)
Ukraine- Win (shipping them bombs instead of blankets)
NAFTA - Win. (USMCA superior deal)
Illegal immigration- Win (Mexico holding back tide before our borders)
Paris Climate Accords-Win (no more economy destroying nonsense which China and India committed only to raise emissions)
DPRK - Push (talking more than Sabre rattling and certainly more than in last 30 years, without gifts of nuclear reactors)
KSA - Push (didn't stupidly overreact to killing a Muslim brotherhood apologist)

To name a few.

ScottS
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Bearitto, hard core libs won't be convinced no matter what he does.
Canada2017
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Bearitto said:

TexasScientist said:

Bearitto said:

TexasScientist said:

Sam Lowry said:

TexasScientist said:

You're a bunch of dopes and babies': Inside Trump's stunning tirade against generals
The new book "A Very Stable Genius" documents how Trump lashed out at attempts by military leaders and diplomats to teach him about U.S. alliances and obligations around the globe.

Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AgjLcLQRWT3SuR4lC1YWTig
I'm sure Trump could use some education on military matters and many other things, but in this case it looks like the generals' presentation was more about advocating policy.

I would write this story from the opposite point of view. I think it's the generals who don't understand why we have civilian control of the military. If Trump is questioning the post-war international order, it's because he was elected to do so.
More telling is Trump's unstable personality, and his inability to listen to anyone other than his own in the moment whims. That's why he has no consistent view, vision, or even understanding of foreign policy, much less world history, and historical contexts. ("Kurds didn't help at Normandy")


Except at virtually every turn, Trump has been correct and the "experts" have been proven wrong. I guess he just keeps getting lucky again and again and again and again. And again.
Examples?


China - Win (best trade deal in ever and certainly better than TPP)
Iran - Win (deterred for first time in decades)
Syria - Win (ISIS subdued, no more support for "white helmet" Trojan horses)
NATO - Win (Paying far more than ever before)
Ukraine- Win (shipping them bombs instead of blankets)
NAFTA - Win. (USMCA superior deal)
Illegal immigration- Win (Mexico holding back tide before our borders)
Paris Climate Accords-Win (no more economy destroying nonsense which China and India committed only to raise emissions)
DPRK - Push (talking more than Sabre rattling and certainly more than in last 30 years, without gifts of nuclear reactors)
KSA - Push (didn't stupidly overreact to killing a Muslim brotherhood apologist)

To name a few.




Excellent list.


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ScottS said:

Bearitto, hard core leftists won't be convinced no matter what he does.
FIFY. Not all liberals hate the USA or Trump. Then you have leftists like Jinx and Texas scientist.
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BellCountyBear said:

ScottS said:

Bearitto, hard core leftists won't be convinced no matter what he does.
FIFY. Not all liberals hate the USA or Trump. Then you have leftists like Jinx and Texas scientist.


How are Leftists and the Super Bowl the same?















No Patriots
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Jinx 2 said:

So there sits Trump with his elaborate coif of fake sprayed blond hair, his metrosexual bronzer staining the collar of his shirt, and his golf-boy paunch calling a roomful of military brass who look and act like real men "babies."

It probably took all the military discipline they could muster not to give him a well-deserved ass-whooping.


And the fact you stay up at night over it gives me a hard on.

Night. Night. #MAGA
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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TexasScientist said:

You're a bunch of dopes and babies': Inside Trump's stunning tirade against generals
The new book "A Very Stable Genius" documents how Trump lashed out at attempts by military leaders and diplomats to teach him about U.S. alliances and obligations around the globe.

Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AgjLcLQRWT3SuR4lC1YWTig


Just another TDSer needing to squeak out a post in frustration

Texas Scientist is the culprit this time

LMAO
TexasScientist
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Canada2017 said:

Bearitto said:

TexasScientist said:

Bearitto said:

TexasScientist said:

Sam Lowry said:

TexasScientist said:

You're a bunch of dopes and babies': Inside Trump's stunning tirade against generals
The new book "A Very Stable Genius" documents how Trump lashed out at attempts by military leaders and diplomats to teach him about U.S. alliances and obligations around the globe.

Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AgjLcLQRWT3SuR4lC1YWTig
I'm sure Trump could use some education on military matters and many other things, but in this case it looks like the generals' presentation was more about advocating policy.

I would write this story from the opposite point of view. I think it's the generals who don't understand why we have civilian control of the military. If Trump is questioning the post-war international order, it's because he was elected to do so.
More telling is Trump's unstable personality, and his inability to listen to anyone other than his own in the moment whims. That's why he has no consistent view, vision, or even understanding of foreign policy, much less world history, and historical contexts. ("Kurds didn't help at Normandy")


Except at virtually every turn, Trump has been correct and the "experts" have been proven wrong. I guess he just keeps getting lucky again and again and again and again. And again.
Examples?


China - Win (best trade deal in ever and certainly better than TPP)
Iran - Win (deterred for first time in decades)
Syria - Win (ISIS subdued, no more support for "white helmet" Trojan horses)
NATO - Win (Paying far more than ever before)
Ukraine- Win (shipping them bombs instead of blankets)
NAFTA - Win. (USMCA superior deal)
Illegal immigration- Win (Mexico holding back tide before our borders)
Paris Climate Accords-Win (no more economy destroying nonsense which China and India committed only to raise emissions)
DPRK - Push (talking more than Sabre rattling and certainly more than in last 30 years, without gifts of nuclear reactors)
KSA - Push (didn't stupidly overreact to killing a Muslim brotherhood apologist)

To name a few.




Excellent list.



You left off:
Illegally paid off Porn star for campaign purposes
Failed campaign promise to address infrastructure
Failed campaign promise to replace Obama care
Exponentially running up the deficit
Setting Iran up to fast track nuclear weapons, without stopping them. Something he said he wouldn't allow.
Betraying the Kurds on a whim resulting in many deaths.
Precipitously handing the rest of Syria over to Russia and Iran.
Haphazardly ceding influence of a large part of the Middle East to Russia
Duped and manipulated by Russia into believing and acting on a bogus story about Cloud Strike.
Illegally withholding funds from Ukraine for his own personal gain.
Sending Rudi on a campaign of coercion.
Unnecessarily damaging his and U.S. credibility and relations with key allies and alliances.
Overstates his accomplishments on foreign trade (Benefits of China trade deal is uncertain,
USMCA is a modest tweak of NAFTA)
Failed North Korean denuclearization policy allowing NK to develop long range ballistic missiles.
Childish, caustic and corrupt behavior unnecessarily polarizing the country.
Habitual liar
Using office of Presidency for personal and family gain.


Bearitto
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TexasScientist said:

Canada2017 said:

Bearitto said:

TexasScientist said:

Bearitto said:

TexasScientist said:

Sam Lowry said:

TexasScientist said:

You're a bunch of dopes and babies': Inside Trump's stunning tirade against generals
The new book "A Very Stable Genius" documents how Trump lashed out at attempts by military leaders and diplomats to teach him about U.S. alliances and obligations around the globe.

Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AgjLcLQRWT3SuR4lC1YWTig
I'm sure Trump could use some education on military matters and many other things, but in this case it looks like the generals' presentation was more about advocating policy.

I would write this story from the opposite point of view. I think it's the generals who don't understand why we have civilian control of the military. If Trump is questioning the post-war international order, it's because he was elected to do so.
More telling is Trump's unstable personality, and his inability to listen to anyone other than his own in the moment whims. That's why he has no consistent view, vision, or even understanding of foreign policy, much less world history, and historical contexts. ("Kurds didn't help at Normandy")


Except at virtually every turn, Trump has been correct and the "experts" have been proven wrong. I guess he just keeps getting lucky again and again and again and again. And again.
Examples?


China - Win (best trade deal in ever and certainly better than TPP)
Iran - Win (deterred for first time in decades)
Syria - Win (ISIS subdued, no more support for "white helmet" Trojan horses)
NATO - Win (Paying far more than ever before)
Ukraine- Win (shipping them bombs instead of blankets)
NAFTA - Win. (USMCA superior deal)
Illegal immigration- Win (Mexico holding back tide before our borders)
Paris Climate Accords-Win (no more economy destroying nonsense which China and India committed only to raise emissions)
DPRK - Push (talking more than Sabre rattling and certainly more than in last 30 years, without gifts of nuclear reactors)
KSA - Push (didn't stupidly overreact to killing a Muslim brotherhood apologist)

To name a few.




Excellent list.



You left off:
Illegally paid off Porn star for campaign purposes
Failed campaign promise to address infrastructure
Failed campaign promise to replace Obama care
Exponentially running up the deficit
Setting Iran up to fast track nuclear weapons, without stopping them. Something he said he wouldn't allow.
Betraying the Kurds on a whim resulting in many deaths.
Precipitously handing the rest of Syria over to Russia and Iran.
Haphazardly ceding influence of a large part of the Middle East to Russia
Duped and manipulated by Russia into believing and acting on a bogus story about Cloud Strike.
Illegally withholding funds from Ukraine for his own personal gain.
Sending Rudi on a campaign of coercion.
Unnecessarily damaging his and U.S. credibility and relations with key allies and alliances.
Overstates his accomplishments on foreign trade (Benefits of China trade deal is uncertain,
USMCA is a modest tweak of NAFTA)
Failed North Korean denuclearization policy allowing NK to develop long range ballistic missiles.
Childish, caustic and corrupt behavior unnecessarily polarizing the country.
Habitual liar
Using office of Presidency for personal and family gain.





My apologies. I was under the impression you were interested in policy successes that have benefited the US people. I misunderstood.
GoneGirl
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TexasScientist said:

Canada2017 said:

Bearitto said:

TexasScientist said:

Bearitto said:

TexasScientist said:

More telling is Trump's unstable personality, and his inability to listen to anyone other than his own in the moment whims. That's why he has no consistent view, vision, or even understanding of foreign policy, much less world history, and historical contexts. ("Kurds didn't help at Normandy")


Except at virtually every turn, Trump has been correct and the "experts" have been proven wrong. I guess he just keeps getting lucky again and again and again and again. And again.
Examples?


China - Win (best trade deal in ever and certainly better than TPP)
Iran - Win (deterred for first time in decades)
Syria - Win (ISIS subdued, no more support for "white helmet" Trojan horses)
NATO - Win (Paying far more than ever before)
Ukraine- Win (shipping them bombs instead of blankets)
NAFTA - Win. (USMCA superior deal)
Illegal immigration- Win (Mexico holding back tide before our borders)
Paris Climate Accords-Win (no more economy destroying nonsense which China and India committed only to raise emissions)
DPRK - Push (talking more than Sabre rattling and certainly more than in last 30 years, without gifts of nuclear reactors)
KSA - Push (didn't stupidly overreact to killing a Muslim brotherhood apologist)

To name a few.




Excellent list.



You left off:
Illegally paid off Porn star for campaign purposes
Failed campaign promise to address infrastructure
Failed campaign promise to replace Obama care
Exponentially running up the deficit
Setting Iran up to fast track nuclear weapons, without stopping them. Something he said he wouldn't allow.
Betraying the Kurds on a whim resulting in many deaths.
Precipitously handing the rest of Syria over to Russia and Iran.
Haphazardly ceding influence of a large part of the Middle East to Russia
Duped and manipulated by Russia into believing and acting on a bogus story about Cloud Strike.
Illegally withholding funds from Ukraine for his own personal gain.
Sending Rudi on a campaign of coercion.
Unnecessarily damaging his and U.S. credibility and relations with key allies and alliances.
Overstates his accomplishments on foreign trade (Benefits of China trade deal is uncertain,
USMCA is a modest tweak of NAFTA)
Failed North Korean denuclearization policy allowing NK to develop long range ballistic missiles.
Childish, caustic and corrupt behavior unnecessarily polarizing the country.
Habitual liar
Using office of Presidency for personal and family gain.



You can add:

Ballooning deficit (which will become an issue the instant the next Democrat is elected president and not a second before)
Climate change denial when we already have climate refugees in the U.S.
Has behaved abominably at every G-7 meeting, to the point where he/the U.S. is a laughingstock
Rollbacks/attempted rollbacks of environmental protections meant to promote corporate responsibility
Screwed the people of Puerto Rico after their territory was devastated by a hurricane
Tarriffs announced with no warning
Budget dollars diverted from military bases and housing to build the wall
Way beyond a "habitual liar" - Trump lies to the American people on a daily basis and has amassed an unsurpassable 4-Pinnochio record
Using American foreign aid as a bribe to force the Ukrainians to investigate the son of a campaign rival (making it clear he didn't care if the investigation happened or yielded the results--all he wanted was the damaging headline)
Impeached in the House, and would be impeached in the Senate IF he and Senate Republicans hadn't obstructed justice by blocking witnesses like John Bolton from responding to legal subpoenas and testifying
Undermining our intelligence services and diplomatic corps -- both major assets that will take years to recover from his / his admin's mismanagement - on a daily basis
Said he would fix healthcare and hasn't; isn't saying that any more
Only values personal loyalty; doesn't get the fact that government employees work for the American people and not for him
Depends on low-information and "inerrancy" voters who give him credit for things over which he has limited control (the stock market), and who assume the stock market is an index for economic well-being when lots of Americans are underemployed and lack health coverage
Bearitto
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There are people who care about policy outcomes and there are people who argue like bitter ex-wives, with little interest in policy outcomes. I am seeing that several posters here are decidedly not the former.
GoneGirl
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Bearitto said:

There are people who care about policy outcomes and there are people who argue like bitter ex-wives, with little interest in policy outcomes. I am seeing that several posters here are decidedly not the former.
Climate change and our response to it is at the top of my policy agenda. The Trump administration engages in science denial and has rolled back the feeble initiatives that have managed to emerge from the corporate-interest gauntlet thus far. One big issue with corporations leading public policy is that they're only looking as far ahead as the next quarter's results. Only now are a few starting to tote up the tremendous costs of doing nothing to their businesses 10, 20, 30 years from now. That short-sightedness alone should result in the ouster of Republicans from office in every state in the union.
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I don't even know where to start with you partisan nuts. I've got nuts to the left of me and nuts to the right of me. All of you are hypocrites when it comes to your outrage and you all look like fcking morons trying to be critical of the other side.
GoneGirl
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contrario said:

I don't even know where to start with you partisan nuts. I've got nuts to the left of me and nuts to the right of me. All of you are hypocrites when it comes to your outrage and you all look like fcking morons trying to be critical of the other side.
It's not partisan to want coordinated international action to ensure the future viability of the planet. It's common sense.

Unfortunately, only one party in the United States currently even acknowledges that, Houston, we have a problem. I believe that will continue until parts of Houston are underwater year round.

It'll be interesting to see how Australia responds to its awful summer. My guess is that climate change will become a bigger political priority because people are tired of watching it happen and watching the government ignore it.
TexasScientist
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Here's what the Financial Times says about Trump's China deal.

Financial Times - "The agreement, however, falls far short of a lasting peace to end a trade war that has lasted nearly two years, bruising trust in both countries and disrupting businesses on both sides of the Pacific. It leaves in place the vast bulk of tariffs imposed on $360bn of Chinese products by President Donald Trump and yields few Chinese concessions on key aspects of its economic model that have most frustrated the US, from the use of subsidies to rampant cybertheft. It is also unlikely to halt the deeper strategic rivalry between the two powers, which has accelerated during Mr Trump's presidency on military matters and primacy in advanced technologies from 5G communications to artificial intelligence."
Sam Lowry
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TexasScientist said:

Here's what the Financial Times says about Trump's China deal.

Financial Times - "The agreement, however, falls far short of a lasting peace to end a trade war that has lasted nearly two years, bruising trust in both countries and disrupting businesses on both sides of the Pacific. It leaves in place the vast bulk of tariffs imposed on $360bn of Chinese products by President Donald Trump and yields few Chinese concessions on key aspects of its economic model that have most frustrated the US, from the use of subsidies to rampant cybertheft. It is also unlikely to halt the deeper strategic rivalry between the two powers, which has accelerated during Mr Trump's presidency on military matters and primacy in advanced technologies from 5G communications to artificial intelligence."

They're expecting an awful lot from a trade deal.
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ScottS said:

I stopped reading
fixed it 4 u
Florda_mike
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TexasScientist said:

Canada2017 said:

Bearitto said:

TexasScientist said:

Bearitto said:

TexasScientist said:

Sam Lowry said:

TexasScientist said:

You're a bunch of dopes and babies': Inside Trump's stunning tirade against generals
The new book "A Very Stable Genius" documents how Trump lashed out at attempts by military leaders and diplomats to teach him about U.S. alliances and obligations around the globe.

Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AgjLcLQRWT3SuR4lC1YWTig
I'm sure Trump could use some education on military matters and many other things, but in this case it looks like the generals' presentation was more about advocating policy.

I would write this story from the opposite point of view. I think it's the generals who don't understand why we have civilian control of the military. If Trump is questioning the post-war international order, it's because he was elected to do so.
More telling is Trump's unstable personality, and his inability to listen to anyone other than his own in the moment whims. That's why he has no consistent view, vision, or even understanding of foreign policy, much less world history, and historical contexts. ("Kurds didn't help at Normandy")


Except at virtually every turn, Trump has been correct and the "experts" have been proven wrong. I guess he just keeps getting lucky again and again and again and again. And again.
Examples?


China - Win (best trade deal in ever and certainly better than TPP)
Iran - Win (deterred for first time in decades)
Syria - Win (ISIS subdued, no more support for "white helmet" Trojan horses)
NATO - Win (Paying far more than ever before)
Ukraine- Win (shipping them bombs instead of blankets)
NAFTA - Win. (USMCA superior deal)
Illegal immigration- Win (Mexico holding back tide before our borders)
Paris Climate Accords-Win (no more economy destroying nonsense which China and India committed only to raise emissions)
DPRK - Push (talking more than Sabre rattling and certainly more than in last 30 years, without gifts of nuclear reactors)
KSA - Push (didn't stupidly overreact to killing a Muslim brotherhood apologist)

To name a few.




Excellent list.



You left off:
Illegally paid off Porn star for campaign purposes
Failed campaign promise to address infrastructure
Failed campaign promise to replace Obama care
Exponentially running up the deficit
Setting Iran up to fast track nuclear weapons, without stopping them. Something he said he wouldn't allow.
Betraying the Kurds on a whim resulting in many deaths.
Precipitously handing the rest of Syria over to Russia and Iran.
Haphazardly ceding influence of a large part of the Middle East to Russia
Duped and manipulated by Russia into believing and acting on a bogus story about Cloud Strike.
Illegally withholding funds from Ukraine for his own personal gain.
Sending Rudi on a campaign of coercion.
Unnecessarily damaging his and U.S. credibility and relations with key allies and alliances.
Overstates his accomplishments on foreign trade (Benefits of China trade deal is uncertain,
USMCA is a modest tweak of NAFTA)
Failed North Korean denuclearization policy allowing NK to develop long range ballistic missiles.
Childish, caustic and corrupt behavior unnecessarily polarizing the country.
Habitual liar
Using office of Presidency for personal and family gain.





And I ask, TDS?
Florda_mike
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Your post shows you're...... beginning to understand
Kyle
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Jinx 2 said:

Kyle said:

Jinx 2 said:

So there sits Trump with his elaborate coif of fake sprayed blond hair, his metrosexual bronzer staining the collar of his shirt, and his golf-boy paunch calling a roomful of military brass who look and act like real men "babies."

It probably took all the military discipline they could muster not to give him a well-deserved ass-whooping.
Do you realize you never actually make substantive arguments but just defer to personal attacks? Do you think these emotional screeds make you appear intelligent or rational?
Darlin', I offered an accurate, if unflattering description of a POTUS's meeting with our top military brass.

There's a huge irony in your calling me out for emotional screeds and personal attacks when this thread is about Trump launching an emotional screed of personal attack on our top military brass, calling them "dopes" and "babies."

Do you realize that Trump never makes substantive arguements but just defers to personal attacks?

Do you think those emotional screeds make him appear intelligent or rational?

You're back on ingore, along with the other tireless Trump cheerleaders.


Chuckle. You're like an ad hom vibrator with a intolerance squirt.
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Jinx 2 said:

Bearitto said:

There are people who care about policy outcomes and there are people who argue like bitter ex-wives, with little interest in policy outcomes. I am seeing that several posters here are decidedly not the former.
Climate change and our response to it is at the top of my policy agenda


Because you are a sheep and a moron that never took a science class since high school.
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