The bill gets done today.

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The bill gets done today.

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Yeah. Unless Nancy and Chuck earmark another $25 billion for counseling and support services for traumatized transgender Native Americans that have just had a government funded abortion.

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If that's what it takes to get it done, why not fund women with male organs who had an abortion not allowed by law?

Dow jumps more than 1,000 points on hope that a coronavirus rescue bill is close

Because it has nothing to do with C19.

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tommie said:

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The bill gets done today.

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Yeah. Unless Nancy and Chuck earmark another $25 billion for counseling and support services for traumatized transgender Native Americans that have just had a government funded abortion.

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If that's what it takes to get it done, why not fund women with male organs who had an abortion not allowed by law?

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Because that is biologically impossible.

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tommie said:

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The bill gets done today.

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Yeah. Unless Nancy and Chuck earmark another $25 billion for counseling and support services for traumatized transgender Native Americans that have just had a government funded abortion.

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If that's what it takes to get it done, why not fund women with male organs who had an abortion not allowed by law?

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Most shocking about this is the mistreatment of chickens we have witnessed in other countries!

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tommie said:

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tommie said:

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The bill gets done today.

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Yeah. Unless Nancy and Chuck earmark another $25 billion for counseling and support services for traumatized transgender Native Americans that have just had a government funded abortion.

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If that's what it takes to get it done, why not fund women with male organs who had an abortion not allowed by law?

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Most shocking about this is the mistreatment of chickens we have witnessed in other countries!

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You saw. I turned away. I learned my lesson with two girls, one cup.

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McConnell wrote a bill Democrats won't support when he needed a bipartisan vote.

His bill has to pass Congress. Which has a Democratic majority. Pelosi's strategy--create her own stimulus bill--was a smart move to counter McConnell's bullying. The huffing and puffing about Pelosi and the Democrats holding up this bill when it contains a slush fund presided over by Steve Mnuchin and the Trump admin, and when Trump is talking about bailing out cruise lines and his own hotels, with no congressional oversight or reporting requirements, is embarrassing. And so are the people who buy the RW media's whinging that some senators and a majority of congress opposes a bailout that amounts to corporate welfare.

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GOP details Pelosi's $2.5 trillion 'socialist wish list' in coronavirus aid package

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And Pelosi wrote a bill no sane person could support, so guess what it's time to meet in the middle, put aside petty differences, and realize people in my economic situation are getting laid off left and right and will need help.

Hey Nance ,
When Americans are filing for unemployment in the next few months, can they request vacation time, a new car, new furniture, and some money for clothes shopping?

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What did this "bipartisan" Senate bill say? It clearly was not the House bill that was passed last weekend and was summarized yesterday on this board. Was it all corporate bailout without condition and nothing for workers?

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This is the problem with these things. When they blow up because both sides are children, unworthy of the power they hold, we just get the same partisan blame game.

Knowing Mitch McConnell, who is just the other side of the ****ty Nancy Pelosi/Chuck Schumer/Adam Schiff coin, I have little trouble believing that a bait and switch took place. But I hold them all equally accountable for their complete inability to govern.

No one should be playing politics right now, and they all are.

Our government is broken beyond repair. It's time to hit the reset button and vote all of these ****bags out. This is a game to them. They don't give a damn about any of us.

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why should they give a damn about us? they have everything in the world at their disposal...until someone (a newly elected official with balls or a hot piece of ass walks into DC and implements change this circus show will never quit. We are to blame for allowing it....it is pathetic that the people who are to represent us have better benefits, make 174k a year, and have access to insider trading without punishment.

Nullifies the White House executive orders on federal collective bargaining and codifies taxpayer-funded union official time.

Requires a labor union representative on every airline's board of directors.

Multi employer pension bailout lacking needed reforms.

Permanently raises the minimum wage to $15 for any business that receives federal aid for COVID-19.

Cancels all debt owed by the U.S. Postal Service to the Treasury.

Under the heading "Green New Deal priorities":

Requires all airlines that receive assistance to offset carbon emissions for domestic flights by 2025.

Includes a $1 billion "cash for clunkers" airplane program where the Transportation Department buys fuel-inefficient planes from airlines in exchange for agreeing to buy new ones.

Includes expansive new tax-credit for solar and wind energy.

Under "Student Loan Forgiveness":

$10,000 blanket loan forgiveness.

Under "Federalizing Elections":

Mandates how states must run elections, including the nationalization of ballot harvesting, requiring early voting, same day registration, and no-excuse vote by mail.

Puts states at risk of costly litigation if they are unable to implement these stringent mandates ahead of the 2020 election.

Under "Immigration Provisions":

Requires the Homeland Security Department to automatically extend visas and work authorizations expiring within the next year, including those with Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and Temporary Protected Status, for an amount of time equal to their prior visa, authorization or status.

Limits Customs and Border Patrol's ability to shutdown processing centers if there is a health crisis on the border and requires CBP to assure the timely adjudication of asylums applications.

Would allow certain funding to go to sanctuary cities.

Under "Overreaching Mandates on Businesses":

Permanent changes to who can serve on corporate boards of directors for companies that receive assistance for payroll and operating costs.

Mandatory disclosure on supply chain management.

Requires board diversity disclosure for all publicly traded companies.

Ban on all federal rule making including non-COVID 19 proposals (extends 30 days after emergency) "in an attempt to delay the current administration from promulgating actions House Democrats disagree with."

Under "New Permanent Mandates":

Virtually rewrites the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program policy with no reference to COVID-19 and permanently disallows rule making pertaining to work requirements and eligibility.

Permanent expansion of Obamacare entitlement, "putting the American taxpayer on the hook for endless and unchecked health insurance spending and would remove all incentives for insurers to reduce the cost of health insurance."

Mr. Scalise said the Democrats' bill also excludes bipartisan health-care provision in the Senate bill, including a proposal to expand tele-health access for home dialysis patients, hospice and home health patients; and a measure to prevent a payment reduction for durable medical equipment to help patients' better transition from the hospital to home.

"Instead of working in a bipartisan, bicameral way to provide this immediate relief, the speaker has proposed legislation that includes highly partisan provisions while excluding key patient care provisions that would have a real impact on Americans affected by COVID-19," Mr. Scalise told his Republican colleagues.



Here are some of the provisions democrats through Pelosi included in the relief bill that have nothing to do with relief. This is epitome of a pork barrel bill.

I have never seen my Republican friends so eager to pass a monumental spending bill. Any bill that allows for direct payments using tax money (because let's be real, that is where the money will be coming from) is a no go for me.

There are loads of ways we should be willing to discuss helping people; extended unemployment, higher paid benefits through unemployment, faster approval of those benefits, no loss of health coverage while for X number of weeks...a huge host of small business lending plans need to be considered, but direct payments...no sane person should be voting for that.

I say this all the time; legislation written in times of crisis or in response to tragedy is virtually always poor legislation.

Complex problems more often than not require complex solutions.

I dont normally cuss but Geeeezus!!!

4 BILLION???!!!!

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Let me get this straight.

Pelosi led impeachment against Trump for withholding aid to Ukraine.

Now Pelosi is withholding aid to Americans unless she gets a quid pro quo of a liberal wishlist of goodies.

Ok. Got it.

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Looks like obstruction of Congress.

IS obstruction of Congress.

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Excellent.

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Let me get this straight.

Pelosi led impeachment against Trump for withholding aid to Ukraine.

Now Pelosi is withholding aid to Americans unless she gets a quid pro quo of a liberal wishlist of goodies.

Ok. Got it.

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Plus one.

Doc Holliday said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Booray said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Democrats shamelessly playing with folks lives. Or at least livelyhoods.

Shameful.

Do these stupid folks not realize when you are forced to shelter in place the $$$$ have to come from somewhere.

This is what you gets when folks that don't live in the real world have the vote.

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Several things here.

First, very odd that there is all this complaining about lack of bi-partisanship when McConnell intentionally excluded the Democrats from the drafting process.

Second, very odd that the complaint is the Democrats are holding up getting money to the people when the Democrats's complaint about the bull is that the money is not going to the people, it's going to companies.

Third, this will get done in the next day.

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They helped write the bill, they got everything they wanted and when it came time to pass the bill, they voted against it...believing they could get more radical left wing goodies by holding the American people hostage.

You are covering for them. Stop it.


It's too late tomorrow: the markets will tank right off the bat.

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Dems know full well what their stunt will do to the market tomorrow.

Dems also know that 80% of the media will find a way to blame.....Trump.

Ruthlessly cynical power politics.

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Yeah I mean they know for a fact that when the market opens up tomorrow it will collapse.

They still refused the bill.

They should have signed it and then pushed for more after the fact. But they want Trump to look bad.

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This post did not age well. All you Chicken Little's who Sunday night we're convinced that we had reached the end of the republic because the party that regularly receives the most votes in elections would not just sign off on 2 trillion in spending designed by the party who gets less votes turned out to be badly mistaken.

The deal got done and the markets did the opposite of collapsing.

One other thing. I watched the press conference yesterday. POTUS called Larry Kudlow up to explain the package. Kudlow took great care to emphasize that this spending would be subject to congressional oversight and the audit of an inspector general. Which is good but ironic as most reports indicate that was the biggest point of contention-the administration had resisted the very structure it is now touting.

While I agree that some of Pelosi's asks were inappropriate overreaches, getting that taxpayer protection alone was worth the two days of extra negotiating.

Booray said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Booray said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Democrats shamelessly playing with folks lives. Or at least livelyhoods.

Shameful.

Do these stupid folks not realize when you are forced to shelter in place the $$$$ have to come from somewhere.

This is what you gets when folks that don't live in the real world have the vote.

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Several things here.

First, very odd that there is all this complaining about lack of bi-partisanship when McConnell intentionally excluded the Democrats from the drafting process.

Second, very odd that the complaint is the Democrats are holding up getting money to the people when the Democrats's complaint about the bull is that the money is not going to the people, it's going to companies.

Third, this will get done in the next day.

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They helped write the bill, they got everything they wanted and when it came time to pass the bill, they voted against it...believing they could get more radical left wing goodies by holding the American people hostage.

You are covering for them. Stop it.


It's too late tomorrow: the markets will tank right off the bat.

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Dems know full well what their stunt will do to the market tomorrow.

Dems also know that 80% of the media will find a way to blame.....Trump.

Ruthlessly cynical power politics.

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Yeah I mean they know for a fact that when the market opens up tomorrow it will collapse.

They still refused the bill.

They should have signed it and then pushed for more after the fact. But they want Trump to look bad.

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This post did not age well. All you Chicken Little's who Sunday night we're convinced that we had reached the end of the republic because the party that regularly receives the most votes in elections would not just sign off on 2 trillion in spending designed by the party who gets less votes turned out to be badly mistaken.

The deal got done and the markets did the opposite of collapsing.

One other thing. I watched the press conference yesterday. POTUS called Larry Kudlow up to explain the package. Kudlow took great care to emphasize that this spending would be subject to congressional oversight and the audit of an inspector general. Which is good but ironic as most reports indicate that was the biggest point of contention-the administration had resisted the very structure it is now touting.

While I agree that some of Pelosi's asks were inappropriate overreaches, getting that taxpayer protection alone was worth the two days of extra negotiating.

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You told me it would have passed on Monday. You shouldn't make light of the business that went down already this week.

Without the fed it would have collapsed because of Democrats.

I'd suggest you filter out all MSM for your news as they are mouthpieces for both parties.

Doc Holliday said:

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Booray said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Booray said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Democrats shamelessly playing with folks lives. Or at least livelyhoods.

Shameful.

Do these stupid folks not realize when you are forced to shelter in place the $$$$ have to come from somewhere.

This is what you gets when folks that don't live in the real world have the vote.

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Several things here.

First, very odd that there is all this complaining about lack of bi-partisanship when McConnell intentionally excluded the Democrats from the drafting process.

Second, very odd that the complaint is the Democrats are holding up getting money to the people when the Democrats's complaint about the bull is that the money is not going to the people, it's going to companies.

Third, this will get done in the next day.

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They helped write the bill, they got everything they wanted and when it came time to pass the bill, they voted against it...believing they could get more radical left wing goodies by holding the American people hostage.

You are covering for them. Stop it.


It's too late tomorrow: the markets will tank right off the bat.

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Dems know full well what their stunt will do to the market tomorrow.

Dems also know that 80% of the media will find a way to blame.....Trump.

Ruthlessly cynical power politics.

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Yeah I mean they know for a fact that when the market opens up tomorrow it will collapse.

They still refused the bill.

They should have signed it and then pushed for more after the fact. But they want Trump to look bad.

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This post did not age well. All you Chicken Little's who Sunday night we're convinced that we had reached the end of the republic because the party that regularly receives the most votes in elections would not just sign off on 2 trillion in spending designed by the party who gets less votes turned out to be badly mistaken.

The deal got done and the markets did the opposite of collapsing.

One other thing. I watched the press conference yesterday. POTUS called Larry Kudlow up to explain the package. Kudlow took great care to emphasize that this spending would be subject to congressional oversight and the audit of an inspector general. Which is good but ironic as most reports indicate that was the biggest point of contention-the administration had resisted the very structure it is now touting.

While I agree that some of Pelosi's asks were inappropriate overreaches, getting that taxpayer protection alone was worth the two days of extra negotiating.

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You told me it would have passed on Monday. You shouldn't make light of the business that went down already this week.

Without the fed it would have collapsed because of Democrats.

I'd suggest you filter out all MSM for your news as they are mouthpieces for both parties.

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Monday vs. Tuesday night=BFD. I told you a deal would get done and the markets wouldn't collapse. I was right, not that it took a genius to see it. The addition of the IG and Congressional oversight was a good thing. Go back to your tinfoil hat websites.

Booray said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Booray said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Booray said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Democrats shamelessly playing with folks lives. Or at least livelyhoods.

Shameful.

Do these stupid folks not realize when you are forced to shelter in place the $$$$ have to come from somewhere.

This is what you gets when folks that don't live in the real world have the vote.

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Several things here.

First, very odd that there is all this complaining about lack of bi-partisanship when McConnell intentionally excluded the Democrats from the drafting process.

Second, very odd that the complaint is the Democrats are holding up getting money to the people when the Democrats's complaint about the bull is that the money is not going to the people, it's going to companies.

Third, this will get done in the next day.

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They helped write the bill, they got everything they wanted and when it came time to pass the bill, they voted against it...believing they could get more radical left wing goodies by holding the American people hostage.

You are covering for them. Stop it.


It's too late tomorrow: the markets will tank right off the bat.

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Dems know full well what their stunt will do to the market tomorrow.

Dems also know that 80% of the media will find a way to blame.....Trump.

Ruthlessly cynical power politics.

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Yeah I mean they know for a fact that when the market opens up tomorrow it will collapse.

They still refused the bill.

They should have signed it and then pushed for more after the fact. But they want Trump to look bad.

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This post did not age well. All you Chicken Little's who Sunday night we're convinced that we had reached the end of the republic because the party that regularly receives the most votes in elections would not just sign off on 2 trillion in spending designed by the party who gets less votes turned out to be badly mistaken.

The deal got done and the markets did the opposite of collapsing.

One other thing. I watched the press conference yesterday. POTUS called Larry Kudlow up to explain the package. Kudlow took great care to emphasize that this spending would be subject to congressional oversight and the audit of an inspector general. Which is good but ironic as most reports indicate that was the biggest point of contention-the administration had resisted the very structure it is now touting.

While I agree that some of Pelosi's asks were inappropriate overreaches, getting that taxpayer protection alone was worth the two days of extra negotiating.

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You told me it would have passed on Monday. You shouldn't make light of the business that went down already this week.

Without the fed it would have collapsed because of Democrats.

I'd suggest you filter out all MSM for your news as they are mouthpieces for both parties.

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Monday vs. Tuesday night=BFD. I told you a deal would get done and the markets wouldn't collapse. I was right, not that it took a genius to see it. The addition of the IG and Congressional oversight was a good thing. Go back to your tinfoil hat websites.

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Must say, I thought the Dow would steady at 20,000. Never forget the market goes up and comes down. I'm proof positive it doesn't take a genius. I always marvel at those who sit on the sidelines complaining about the Big Boys making the long green. They remind me of the race going one way and one racer going the other way. The more he/she runs the further behind he/she gets. Don't fight it. Pick out a dividend paying stock( s) and invest of 1000 at 3% for 1 year. Doesn't sound like much does it? Now add a 1000 for 18 years at 3%. Don't forget your compounding the interest. Looks a little better doesn't it? That's how I paid for the kids college and came out debt free at the other end. I will admit I had a better interest rate. Can't afford 1000 a year? Yes you can, buy a cheaper truck and invest the difference between the cheaper and the new. If nothing else your savings will offset the insurance and taxes. Or put the money from Starbucks in a jar and forgo the cup of coffee and count the harvest at years end. Better yet, forgo the 10K tattoo and invest the 10K and let it ride for 45 years. Or just sit back and ***** about the Big Boys. Don't know why I posted this. Not alone, you're probably wondering yourself. Sic'em Bears.

Not sure what a $10k tattoo looks like, CHP. The little bear claw on my ass only cost eighty bucks.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Not sure what a $10k tattoo looks like, CHP. The little bear claw on my ass only cost eighty bucks.

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Roy Orbison?

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Not sure what a $10k tattoo looks like, CHP. The little bear claw on my ass only cost eighty bucks.

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Not 10K? Well what the heck am I waiting for. I can afford and 80 buck tattoo. I want to look like Queequeg in Moby Dick. Did you know Starbucks coffee chain was named after the Pequod's first mate - Starbuck. With that info and around 6 bucks you can get a coffee to go at Starbucks. Never know when that trivia question might pop up.

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tommie said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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tommie said:

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The bill gets done today.

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Yeah. Unless Nancy and Chuck earmark another $25 billion for counseling and support services for traumatized transgender Native Americans that have just had a government funded abortion.

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If that's what it takes to get it done, why not fund women with male organs who had an abortion not allowed by law?

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Most shocking about this is the mistreatment of chickens we have witnessed in other countries!

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Or worse...

George Truett said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Democrats shamelessly playing with folks lives. Or at least livelyhoods.

Shameful.

Do these stupid folks not realize when you are forced to shelter in place the $$$$ have to come from somewhere.

This is what you gets when folks that don't live in the real world have the vote.

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Your analysis is the opposite of reality.

Dems are making sure the money goes to people who actually need it.

The original Rep bill does little for those at the bottom end of the spectrum. Good for the middle class. But not good for the poor.

Also keep in mind that Pelosi was able to produce a strong bipartisan bill from the House for phase 2, but McConnell was either unwilling or unable to do the same in the Senate for phase 3.

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Who could have seen this coming...except most everyone.