good list, but it just scratches the surface.tommie said:fadskier said:
How has the Trump administration mishandled the virus response?
1. When the pandemic hit, he needed to be the president. He says he a wartime president, I can't imagine a war conducted by 50 states. A great idea would have been to get the governors to work with the federal government. In this moment, we can't keep having grievances against blue states or dinners that only invite republicans.
2. If he doesn't want to lead, Stop undermining states. There's been nothing more harmful than his tweets against governors like "free Michigan"
3. Understand both the problem and the resolution. To this point, we still don't have plan. He doesn't have to like the CDC plan. He should have worked with them and others to create one he believes in.
4. Get out of campaign mode. Start doing the job. Joe Biden will be there in August.
5. Don't be off the cuff. It's a crisis and your words matter.
6. Get off of twitter. I can still remember a time when you had a problem with a person, you called them. And you ignore people who need to be ignored.
7. Stop the pettiness with the press. Calling people names isn't helpful today.
8. Stop being partisan. Rona doesn't care about party, state lines or politics. We will not develop a blue state solution, it's also possible the answer doesn't come from US based scientists. So what. We will all live on this hill or die on this hill.
9. Wear a mask. Encourage the wearing of mask.
Trump talks about "Make America Great Again" this is no where near our finest hour. I don't know what he means by that but this is t it.
My read on history is our greatest hours have been when WE solved our problems. Today, our pronouns are ****ed up. There's no us and we. Trump has it within his power to change that. (If he chooses).
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Keep on going down the rabbit hole. You're very entertaining.Oldbear83 said:You are completely wrong, TS/Waco. I finally connected the dots when you started completing each other's posts and praising each other.TexasScientist said:You're just ranting and not making sense.Oldbear83 said:Yes you did, and we all know it, Waco/TS.TexasScientist said:I'll stand my R credentials up against yours any day. I just didn't sell my sole out to the devil, or Q.Oldbear83 said:TexasScientist said:Who would try to fool you into thinking that. I've never supported Trump. I recognized him for what he was in 2016 and before. I recognized he wasn't qualified to serve as president, the same as Ted Cruz or Lindsey Graham, the rest of the Republican leadership. The difference is they sold their sole and made a deal with the devil.Oldbear83 said:
The Trump haters are back to their normal spewing, I see,
And no one should be fooled into thinking TS/Waco ever supported Trump, in 2016 or now.
We know by now you and Waco are sockpuppets of the same leftist ideologue. You were never Republican, let alone "life long" as you pretended. It's an old shill from the Left, but you are worse than most at selling it.
Now as for ranting, you are the one who brought up Q
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(Star_Trek)
and you are the one obsessed with him.
It's funny to see you try the old 'lifelong Republican' line, especially when you regularly argue against the ideals of Cruz and Graham. It's even funnier to see you pretend to professions like clergy and the sciences, when your posts are full of emotion and a void of logic.
TexasScientist said:Trump wears the failures of NY state as much as the State authorities. As far a nursing homes go, it was Trump's CDC and Trump's appointed head ot the CDC that required hospitals send covid patients to nursing homes. Trump is the one that emplemented the policy of every state for itself, and failed to lead a coordinated effort for a national response to covid. The only right thing he did was suspend travel from China, but then he sat on his hands ignoring the problem for two months telling everyone it would simply go away in April, despite what we now know his staft and advisors was telling him all through January.CHP Bear said:How many of those deaths happened in blue state nursing homes? Yes, right in the New York Times backyard. Instead of focusing on blue state failed leadership the NYT gives us caricature of Trump. Makes me wonder about the leadership of the Times or lack of it.TexasScientist said:
If it was "Trump's CDC" that required nursing homes to accept Covid patients, why didn't all the states do it? And why didn't New York officials say it was federal regulations when they got asked about it?
According to Cuomo they followed CDC guidelines.JXL said:TexasScientist said:Trump wears the failures of NY state as much as the State authorities. As far a nursing homes go, it was Trump's CDC and Trump's appointed head ot the CDC that required hospitals send covid patients to nursing homes. Trump is the one that emplemented the policy of every state for itself, and failed to lead a coordinated effort for a national response to covid. The only right thing he did was suspend travel from China, but then he sat on his hands ignoring the problem for two months telling everyone it would simply go away in April, despite what we now know his staft and advisors was telling him all through January.CHP Bear said:How many of those deaths happened in blue state nursing homes? Yes, right in the New York Times backyard. Instead of focusing on blue state failed leadership the NYT gives us caricature of Trump. Makes me wonder about the leadership of the Times or lack of it.TexasScientist said:
If it was "Trump's CDC" that required nursing homes to accept Covid patients, why didn't all the states do it? And why didn't New York officials say it was federal regulations when they got asked about it?
"Anyone who wants to ask why the state did that with COVID patients in nursing homes, it's because the state followed President Trump's CDC's guidance," Cuomo said. "So they should ask President Trump."
I think you can safely say it was a bad policy for either to have embraced.
Rabbit holes, Star Trek references ... not sure what you do for a living but I'm guessing you're in CaliforniaTexasScientist said:Keep on going down the rabbit hole. You're very entertaining.Oldbear83 said:You are completely wrong, TS/Waco. I finally connected the dots when you started completing each other's posts and praising each other.TexasScientist said:You're just ranting and not making sense.Oldbear83 said:Yes you did, and we all know it, Waco/TS.TexasScientist said:I'll stand my R credentials up against yours any day. I just didn't sell my sole out to the devil, or Q.Oldbear83 said:TexasScientist said:Who would try to fool you into thinking that. I've never supported Trump. I recognized him for what he was in 2016 and before. I recognized he wasn't qualified to serve as president, the same as Ted Cruz or Lindsey Graham, the rest of the Republican leadership. The difference is they sold their sole and made a deal with the devil.Oldbear83 said:
The Trump haters are back to their normal spewing, I see,
And no one should be fooled into thinking TS/Waco ever supported Trump, in 2016 or now.
We know by now you and Waco are sockpuppets of the same leftist ideologue. You were never Republican, let alone "life long" as you pretended. It's an old shill from the Left, but you are worse than most at selling it.
Now as for ranting, you are the one who brought up Q
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(Star_Trek)
and you are the one obsessed with him.
It's funny to see you try the old 'lifelong Republican' line, especially when you regularly argue against the ideals of Cruz and Graham. It's even funnier to see you pretend to professions like clergy and the sciences, when your posts are full of emotion and a void of logic.
I find it interesting, and entertaining, that you resort to condescending rhetoric when you don't have a good answer. Yet, when anyone even attempts a rebuttal, you respond in indignation and an attempt at more insulting rhetoric. For some reason, you can't accept that someone can be a Republican and not swear allegance to the the Trump cult. There is something fundamentaly wrong with Trump. Despite what you may like about some of his policies, his personality disorder makes him a dangerous person to serve in the presidency. But, I think you really know that.Oldbear83 said:Rabbit holes, Star Trek references ... not sure what you do for a living but I'm guessing you're in CaliforniaTexasScientist said:Keep on going down the rabbit hole. You're very entertaining.Oldbear83 said:You are completely wrong, TS/Waco. I finally connected the dots when you started completing each other's posts and praising each other.TexasScientist said:You're just ranting and not making sense.Oldbear83 said:Yes you did, and we all know it, Waco/TS.TexasScientist said:I'll stand my R credentials up against yours any day. I just didn't sell my sole out to the devil, or Q.Oldbear83 said:TexasScientist said:Who would try to fool you into thinking that. I've never supported Trump. I recognized him for what he was in 2016 and before. I recognized he wasn't qualified to serve as president, the same as Ted Cruz or Lindsey Graham, the rest of the Republican leadership. The difference is they sold their sole and made a deal with the devil.Oldbear83 said:
The Trump haters are back to their normal spewing, I see,
And no one should be fooled into thinking TS/Waco ever supported Trump, in 2016 or now.
We know by now you and Waco are sockpuppets of the same leftist ideologue. You were never Republican, let alone "life long" as you pretended. It's an old shill from the Left, but you are worse than most at selling it.
Now as for ranting, you are the one who brought up Q
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(Star_Trek)
and you are the one obsessed with him.
It's funny to see you try the old 'lifelong Republican' line, especially when you regularly argue against the ideals of Cruz and Graham. It's even funnier to see you pretend to professions like clergy and the sciences, when your posts are full of emotion and a void of logic.
I find it interesting that you parrot whatever opinion Waco1947 wants to sell. I am also amused that you - despite your username - abandon scientific concepts if they don't support your opinion, and that so many of your posts are pure emotion, mainly hate.
Your malicious delusion about the President makes me worry for the safety of people around you, though.
Your malicious delusion about the President makes me worry for the safety of people around you, though.
Quote the parrots of Waco. I don't think you can. The rest of what you say is nonsense.Oldbear83 said:
I find it interesting that you parrot whatever opinion Waco1947 wants to sell. I am also amused that you - despite your username - abandon scientific concepts if they don't support your opinion, and that so many of your posts are pure emotion, mainly hate.
Your malicious delusion about the President makes me worry for the safety of people around you, though.
A predictable and weak denial.TexasScientist said:Quote the parrots of Waco. I don't think you can. The rest of what you say is nonsense.Oldbear83 said:
I find it interesting that you parrot whatever opinion Waco1947 wants to sell. I am also amused that you - despite your username - abandon scientific concepts if they don't support your opinion, and that so many of your posts are pure emotion, mainly hate.
Your malicious delusion about the President makes me worry for the safety of people around you, though.
In many ways, Trump is definitely lowbrow. But at least we can still see his eyes whereas the Dems' collective brow in resting on their collective upper lip.TexasScientist said:I just want people to consider how lowbrow we have allowed the presidency to become. The article captures succinctly with whom we are dealing.Canada2017 said:
Yet another thread from you .
Rarely bother to read them because its always one of 2 themes.
Hating on Trump or hating on religion .
Potentially some kind of weird self therapy, otherwise a repetitious waste of time .
“When they are wrong, what makes them wrong is that they lead to violations of the duties I have described in earlier chapters.”
– Jason Brennan
– Jason Brennan
If you seriously think Joe Biden has risked his life even once, you are addicted to the koolaid beyond hope.
TexasScientist said:I've been a life long Republican.Johnny Bear said:So what's your answer? Throw your vote away on a 3rd party candidate? Sit on the sidelines and don't vote, but keep going full speed ahead with your complaining?TexasScientist said:I've never offered Biden up as a solution. I'm not a Biden supporter.Johnny Bear said:TexasScientist said:Which charitable foreign aid has Trump eliminated that is positive in your view?Johnny Bear said:Doc Holliday said:
I hate the notion that the President is the leader of the free world.
He's the leader of the United States.
America first. We do something for you, you do something for us. We are NOT a charity.
True, we're not, but between the end of World War II and the start of the Trump Presidency, in many ways we we've sure acted like one. Among the many positive and in some cases historic things Trump has accomplished, turning this around is one of the things that's on the list.
One example is demanding that other NATO countries, that have been able to pay more of their fair share for decades now, actually start doing so. Withdrawing the USA from the ridiculous Paris Climate Accords is another example. For all intents and purposes, you can throw better trade deals in there too as he's moving us away from allowing trade partners to use bad deals as a form of charity. Furthermore, he isn't delivering piles of cash to the likes of Iran. Defunding the WHO is another wise financial move.
I know you hate all things Trump, but do you seriously think Joe Biden is the answer??
Gotta luv the internet .
Yep. Classic concern trollCanada2017 said:TexasScientist said:I've been a life long Republican.Johnny Bear said:So what's your answer? Throw your vote away on a 3rd party candidate? Sit on the sidelines and don't vote, but keep going full speed ahead with your complaining?TexasScientist said:I've never offered Biden up as a solution. I'm not a Biden supporter.Johnny Bear said:TexasScientist said:Which charitable foreign aid has Trump eliminated that is positive in your view?Johnny Bear said:Doc Holliday said:
I hate the notion that the President is the leader of the free world.
He's the leader of the United States.
America first. We do something for you, you do something for us. We are NOT a charity.
True, we're not, but between the end of World War II and the start of the Trump Presidency, in many ways we we've sure acted like one. Among the many positive and in some cases historic things Trump has accomplished, turning this around is one of the things that's on the list.
One example is demanding that other NATO countries, that have been able to pay more of their fair share for decades now, actually start doing so. Withdrawing the USA from the ridiculous Paris Climate Accords is another example. For all intents and purposes, you can throw better trade deals in there too as he's moving us away from allowing trade partners to use bad deals as a form of charity. Furthermore, he isn't delivering piles of cash to the likes of Iran. Defunding the WHO is another wise financial move.
I know you hate all things Trump, but do you seriously think Joe Biden is the answer??
Gotta luv the internet .
Baylor Mafioso
Concern for the future our country, and the probability Trump will cause the loss of the Senate.GhettoHEBear said:Yep. Classic concern trollCanada2017 said:TexasScientist said:I've been a life long Republican.Johnny Bear said:So what's your answer? Throw your vote away on a 3rd party candidate? Sit on the sidelines and don't vote, but keep going full speed ahead with your complaining?TexasScientist said:I've never offered Biden up as a solution. I'm not a Biden supporter.Johnny Bear said:TexasScientist said:Which charitable foreign aid has Trump eliminated that is positive in your view?Johnny Bear said:Doc Holliday said:
I hate the notion that the President is the leader of the free world.
He's the leader of the United States.
America first. We do something for you, you do something for us. We are NOT a charity.
True, we're not, but between the end of World War II and the start of the Trump Presidency, in many ways we we've sure acted like one. Among the many positive and in some cases historic things Trump has accomplished, turning this around is one of the things that's on the list.
One example is demanding that other NATO countries, that have been able to pay more of their fair share for decades now, actually start doing so. Withdrawing the USA from the ridiculous Paris Climate Accords is another example. For all intents and purposes, you can throw better trade deals in there too as he's moving us away from allowing trade partners to use bad deals as a form of charity. Furthermore, he isn't delivering piles of cash to the likes of Iran. Defunding the WHO is another wise financial move.
I know you hate all things Trump, but do you seriously think Joe Biden is the answer??
Gotta luv the internet .
Trump stands on his own. I didn't vote for HRC. Why do you obsess on her so much? She's not even mentioned in this thread.LIB,MR BEARS said:Why can't y'all accept the fact HRC lostTexasScientist said:Apples and oranges. Can I assume you would tolerate Stalin as our leader as long as we defeated Germany?LIB,MR BEARS said:"character, honor and integrity above all else." Since these three things rank higher than policy and action, can I assume you never would have allied yourself with the Russians in order to defeat Nazi Germany? Do all of your partners in all of your dealings pass the squeaky-clean test that you ask Trump to pass?TexasScientist said:I've been a life long Republican. The Republican Party that I knew, aside from certain foreign, econimic and domestic policies, once stood for character, honor, and integrity above all else. One of the most valuable things I have to give is my vote. I won't give that vote to someone who makes a mockery of those ideals. Witholding my vote doesn't diminish my right to speak out against someone who is dangerous to our country. The country would be for the better, if both conventions ended with a choice of different candidates.Johnny Bear said:So what's your answer? Throw your vote away on a 3rd party candidate? Sit on the sidelines and don't vote, but keep going full speed ahead with your complaining?TexasScientist said:I've never offered Biden up as a solution. I'm not a Biden supporter.Johnny Bear said:TexasScientist said:Which charitable foreign aid has Trump eliminated that is positive in your view?Johnny Bear said:Doc Holliday said:
I hate the notion that the President is the leader of the free world.
He's the leader of the United States.
America first. We do something for you, you do something for us. We are NOT a charity.
True, we're not, but between the end of World War II and the start of the Trump Presidency, in many ways we we've sure acted like one. Among the many positive and in some cases historic things Trump has accomplished, turning this around is one of the things that's on the list.
One example is demanding that other NATO countries, that have been able to pay more of their fair share for decades now, actually start doing so. Withdrawing the USA from the ridiculous Paris Climate Accords is another example. For all intents and purposes, you can throw better trade deals in there too as he's moving us away from allowing trade partners to use bad deals as a form of charity. Furthermore, he isn't delivering piles of cash to the likes of Iran. Defunding the WHO is another wise financial move.
I know you hate all things Trump, but do you seriously think Joe Biden is the answer??
Agreed. What does HRC have to do with how Trump operates?TexasScientist said:Trump stands on his own. I didn't vote for HRC. Why do you obsess on her so much? She's not even mentioned in this thread.LIB,MR BEARS said:Why can't y'all accept the fact HRC lostTexasScientist said:Apples and oranges. Can I assume you would tolerate Stalin as our leader as long as we defeated Germany?LIB,MR BEARS said:"character, honor and integrity above all else." Since these three things rank higher than policy and action, can I assume you never would have allied yourself with the Russians in order to defeat Nazi Germany? Do all of your partners in all of your dealings pass the squeaky-clean test that you ask Trump to pass?TexasScientist said:I've been a life long Republican. The Republican Party that I knew, aside from certain foreign, econimic and domestic policies, once stood for character, honor, and integrity above all else. One of the most valuable things I have to give is my vote. I won't give that vote to someone who makes a mockery of those ideals. Witholding my vote doesn't diminish my right to speak out against someone who is dangerous to our country. The country would be for the better, if both conventions ended with a choice of different candidates.Johnny Bear said:So what's your answer? Throw your vote away on a 3rd party candidate? Sit on the sidelines and don't vote, but keep going full speed ahead with your complaining?TexasScientist said:I've never offered Biden up as a solution. I'm not a Biden supporter.Johnny Bear said:TexasScientist said:Which charitable foreign aid has Trump eliminated that is positive in your view?Johnny Bear said:Doc Holliday said:
I hate the notion that the President is the leader of the free world.
He's the leader of the United States.
America first. We do something for you, you do something for us. We are NOT a charity.
True, we're not, but between the end of World War II and the start of the Trump Presidency, in many ways we we've sure acted like one. Among the many positive and in some cases historic things Trump has accomplished, turning this around is one of the things that's on the list.
One example is demanding that other NATO countries, that have been able to pay more of their fair share for decades now, actually start doing so. Withdrawing the USA from the ridiculous Paris Climate Accords is another example. For all intents and purposes, you can throw better trade deals in there too as he's moving us away from allowing trade partners to use bad deals as a form of charity. Furthermore, he isn't delivering piles of cash to the likes of Iran. Defunding the WHO is another wise financial move.
I know you hate all things Trump, but do you seriously think Joe Biden is the answer??
Don't disagree that Trump can be ridiculous and petty.
And yet sadly, he's still better than the only other viable alternative
And yet sadly, he's still better than the only other viable alternative
You don't know but two of 'em. How do you know you like them?LIB,MR BEARS said:
Are you happy with Trumps picks for judges?
Personally, I'm thrilled with his court picks so that allows me to tolerate a lot of other crap.
Most of trumps crap that you complain about has no significant impact on you or anyone else.
Make Racism Wrong Again
Only when it comes to being ridiculous and petty.Mothra said:
Don't disagree that Trump can be ridiculous and petty.
And yet sadly, he's still better than the only other viable alternative
Make Racism Wrong Again
Thanks for posting.TexasScientist said:
A short film
MAY 15, 2020
[url=https://www.theatlantic.com/author/anne-applebaum/][/url]By Anne Applebaum
Staff writer at The Atlantic
One knows, of course, that Donald Trump behaves differently from the leaders of other countries, especially the leaders of other Western democracies. One knows that he disdains facts; that he does not read briefing papers; that he has no organizational talents; that he does not know how to make use of militaries, bureaucracies, or diplomatic services; that he has no basic knowledge of history or science, let alone government.
But seeing him in this video, produced by my colleagues in Atlantic Studios, juxtaposed with other world leaders during this coronavirus pandemic comes, nevertheless, as a shock. Chancellor Angela Merkel, President Emmanuel Macron, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and President Moon Jae-in all speak of evidence-based policy, of the need to take the disease seriously, of empathy and solidarity. Trump speaks of hoaxes, of a disease no different from the flu, of a "germ that has gotten so brilliant that we can't keep up with it," of disinfectant as a miracle cure. Even now, even in the worst public-health crisis in a century, he divides people instead of unifying them, creating precisely the kind of distrust that makes the disease harder to defeat. He cannot demonstrate empathy, because he is incapable of feeling any. He cannot demonstrate solidarity, because he has only disdain for his fellow citizens.
Americans, as a rule, rarely compare themselves with other countries, so convinced are we that our system is superior, that our politicians are better, that our democracy is the fairest and most robust in the world. But watch this video and ask yourself: Is this the kind of leadership you expect from a superpower? Does this make you feel confident in our future? Or is this man a warning signal, a blinking red light, a screaming siren telling all of us, and all of the world, that something about our political system has gone profoundly awry?
Yes, but it's more than, and goes beyond just that. His behavior and the way he conducts himself make him a dangerous person in the White House. When we start excusing his actions, it puts us on a slippery slope.Mothra said:
Don't disagree that Trump can be ridiculous and petty.
And yet sadly, he's still better than the only other viable alternative
He may yet win reelection, but he could have sealed it by showing great wisdom, compassion, and foresight by appearing presidential and leading us through this crisis.TexasScientist said:
A short film
MAY 15, 2020
[url=https://www.theatlantic.com/author/anne-applebaum/][/url]By Anne Applebaum
Staff writer at The Atlantic
One knows, of course, that Donald Trump behaves differently from the leaders of other countries, especially the leaders of other Western democracies. One knows that he disdains facts; that he does not read briefing papers; that he has no organizational talents; that he does not know how to make use of militaries, bureaucracies, or diplomatic services; that he has no basic knowledge of history or science, let alone government.
But seeing him in this video, produced by my colleagues in Atlantic Studios, juxtaposed with other world leaders during this coronavirus pandemic comes, nevertheless, as a shock. Chancellor Angela Merkel, President Emmanuel Macron, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and President Moon Jae-in all speak of evidence-based policy, of the need to take the disease seriously, of empathy and solidarity. Trump speaks of hoaxes, of a disease no different from the flu, of a "germ that has gotten so brilliant that we can't keep up with it," of disinfectant as a miracle cure. Even now, even in the worst public-health crisis in a century, he divides people instead of unifying them, creating precisely the kind of distrust that makes the disease harder to defeat. He cannot demonstrate empathy, because he is incapable of feeling any. He cannot demonstrate solidarity, because he has only disdain for his fellow citizens.
Americans, as a rule, rarely compare themselves with other countries, so convinced are we that our system is superior, that our politicians are better, that our democracy is the fairest and most robust in the world. But watch this video and ask yourself: Is this the kind of leadership you expect from a superpower? Does this make you feel confident in our future? Or is this man a warning signal, a blinking red light, a screaming siren telling all of us, and all of the world, that something about our political system has gone profoundly awry?
Even mediocre governors are getting way higher approval ratings about managing this crisis than Trump.
But he's just incapable. Short attention span or something. Everything has to be about him and what a great job he's doing.
He keeps trying to wish it away and it just won't leave!
Think about how easy of a layup it would have been to let Harriet Tubman be put on $20s this year as planned. Instead, Trump "postponed" it to keep notorious jackass Andrew Jackson on the $20. It's a small thing but those things add up.
This is exactly the kind of thing that makes a jackass like Trump a viable candidate. Hating America yet not understanding why no one wants you to run it.HuMcK said:
Think about how easy of a layup it would have been to let Harriet Tubman be put on $20s this year as planned. Instead, Trump "postponed" it to keep notorious jackass Andrew Jackson on the $20. It's a small thing but those things add up.
Bolton, Tillerson, Mattis, Kelly head a long list of Republicans who I guess you question also. It's possible for Republicans to recognize the danger Trump presents. Check out the Lincoln Project for enlightenment.Canada2017 said:TexasScientist said:I've been a life long Republican.Johnny Bear said:So what's your answer? Throw your vote away on a 3rd party candidate? Sit on the sidelines and don't vote, but keep going full speed ahead with your complaining?TexasScientist said:I've never offered Biden up as a solution. I'm not a Biden supporter.Johnny Bear said:TexasScientist said:Which charitable foreign aid has Trump eliminated that is positive in your view?Johnny Bear said:Doc Holliday said:
I hate the notion that the President is the leader of the free world.
He's the leader of the United States.
America first. We do something for you, you do something for us. We are NOT a charity.
True, we're not, but between the end of World War II and the start of the Trump Presidency, in many ways we we've sure acted like one. Among the many positive and in some cases historic things Trump has accomplished, turning this around is one of the things that's on the list.
One example is demanding that other NATO countries, that have been able to pay more of their fair share for decades now, actually start doing so. Withdrawing the USA from the ridiculous Paris Climate Accords is another example. For all intents and purposes, you can throw better trade deals in there too as he's moving us away from allowing trade partners to use bad deals as a form of charity. Furthermore, he isn't delivering piles of cash to the likes of Iran. Defunding the WHO is another wise financial move.
I know you hate all things Trump, but do you seriously think Joe Biden is the answer??
Gotta luv the internet .
https://lincolnproject.us/
Bolton was a huge danger to American interests and always has been. Mattis wasn't much better.TexasScientist said:Bolton, Tillerson, Mattis, Kelly head a long list of Republicans who I guess you question also. It's possible for Republicans to recognize the danger Trump presents. Check out the Lincoln Project for enlightenment.Canada2017 said:TexasScientist said:I've been a life long Republican.Johnny Bear said:So what's your answer? Throw your vote away on a 3rd party candidate? Sit on the sidelines and don't vote, but keep going full speed ahead with your complaining?TexasScientist said:I've never offered Biden up as a solution. I'm not a Biden supporter.Johnny Bear said:TexasScientist said:Which charitable foreign aid has Trump eliminated that is positive in your view?Johnny Bear said:Doc Holliday said:
I hate the notion that the President is the leader of the free world.
He's the leader of the United States.
America first. We do something for you, you do something for us. We are NOT a charity.
True, we're not, but between the end of World War II and the start of the Trump Presidency, in many ways we we've sure acted like one. Among the many positive and in some cases historic things Trump has accomplished, turning this around is one of the things that's on the list.
One example is demanding that other NATO countries, that have been able to pay more of their fair share for decades now, actually start doing so. Withdrawing the USA from the ridiculous Paris Climate Accords is another example. For all intents and purposes, you can throw better trade deals in there too as he's moving us away from allowing trade partners to use bad deals as a form of charity. Furthermore, he isn't delivering piles of cash to the likes of Iran. Defunding the WHO is another wise financial move.
I know you hate all things Trump, but do you seriously think Joe Biden is the answer??
Gotta luv the internet .
https://lincolnproject.us/
Funny, you never said that when Obama was doing his far more dangerous thing while in office.TexasScientist said:Yes, but it's more than, and goes beyond just that. His behavior and the way he conducts himself make him a dangerous person in the White House. When we start excusing his actions, it puts us on a slippery slope.Mothra said:
Don't disagree that Trump can be ridiculous and petty.
And yet sadly, he's still better than the only other viable alternative
Giving billions in cash to Iran is a lot worse than a few tweets, so is creating a program without any constitutional authority (DACA) because you can't get the votes. So is weaponizing the IRS to go after conservatives and using the FBI to spy on the other party's nominee.
You really have some messed up morals, TS.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
TexasScientist said:According to Cuomo they followed CDC guidelines.JXL said:TexasScientist said:Trump wears the failures of NY state as much as the State authorities. As far a nursing homes go, it was Trump's CDC and Trump's appointed head ot the CDC that required hospitals send covid patients to nursing homes. Trump is the one that emplemented the policy of every state for itself, and failed to lead a coordinated effort for a national response to covid. The only right thing he did was suspend travel from China, but then he sat on his hands ignoring the problem for two months telling everyone it would simply go away in April, despite what we now know his staft and advisors was telling him all through January.CHP Bear said:How many of those deaths happened in blue state nursing homes? Yes, right in the New York Times backyard. Instead of focusing on blue state failed leadership the NYT gives us caricature of Trump. Makes me wonder about the leadership of the Times or lack of it.TexasScientist said:
If it was "Trump's CDC" that required nursing homes to accept Covid patients, why didn't all the states do it? And why didn't New York officials say it was federal regulations when they got asked about it?
"Anyone who wants to ask why the state did that with COVID patients in nursing homes, it's because the state followed President Trump's CDC's guidance," Cuomo said. "So they should ask President Trump."
I think you can safely say it was a bad policy for either to have embraced.
And it turns out that it was a state rule, not a federal one. (News flash! Cuomo was lying! Stop the presses!)
Neal Nibur has lived in a nursing home for about a year, ever since he had a bad bout of pneumonia. Now, the 80-year-old man has not only his own health to worry about but that of his neighbors at the Poughkeepsie, N.Y., residence. Four new patients recently arrived from the hospital with Covid-19.
They were admitted for one reason, according to staff members: A state guideline says nursing homes cannot refuse to take patients from hospitals solely because they have the coronavirus.
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At the epicenter of the outbreak, New York issued a strict new rule last month: Nursing homes must readmit residents sent to hospitals with the coronavirus and accept new patients as long as they are deemed "medically stable." California and New Jersey have also said that nursing homes should take in such patients.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/us/nursing-homes-coronavirus.html