So who out there is fired up to vote FOR Biden?

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quash
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Osodecentx said:

Jinx 2 said:

Osodecentx said:

riflebear said:

These people were




I'll be damned. Isn't that impossible?
Your memory is awfully short (probably because the perps here are white and Republican):

Mark Harris, a Baptist minister, wins congressional election in North Carolina after it's discovered that his campaign manager filled out absentee ballots for voters:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article226628829.html

https://religionnews.com/2018/12/04/southern-baptist-minister-embroiled-in-election-fraud-controversy/

A campaign aide for VA Congressman Scott Taylor commits fraud to get a third-party candidate on the ballot to improve Taylor's chances of re-election in 2018:

https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/virginia-politics/ex-scott-taylor-staffer-pleads-guilty-to-signing-election-petitions-she-didnt-circulate/


I'm with you to stop voter fraud. It happens as you so ably illustrated in the post above.

Stop voter fraud

Let's start with accurate vote counts, as that problem is orders of magnitude worse.
"The fewer things politicians control, the less it matters who controls the politicians"
Osodecentx
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quash said:

Osodecentx said:

Jinx 2 said:

Osodecentx said:

riflebear said:

These people were




I'll be damned. Isn't that impossible?
Your memory is awfully short (probably because the perps here are white and Republican):

Mark Harris, a Baptist minister, wins congressional election in North Carolina after it's discovered that his campaign manager filled out absentee ballots for voters:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article226628829.html

https://religionnews.com/2018/12/04/southern-baptist-minister-embroiled-in-election-fraud-controversy/

A campaign aide for VA Congressman Scott Taylor commits fraud to get a third-party candidate on the ballot to improve Taylor's chances of re-election in 2018:

https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/virginia-politics/ex-scott-taylor-staffer-pleads-guilty-to-signing-election-petitions-she-didnt-circulate/


I'm with you to stop voter fraud. It happens as you so ably illustrated in the post above.

Stop voter fraud

Let's start with accurate vote counts, as that problem is orders of magnitude worse.
We should do both
quash
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Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

Jinx 2 said:

Osodecentx said:

riflebear said:

These people were




I'll be damned. Isn't that impossible?
Your memory is awfully short (probably because the perps here are white and Republican):

Mark Harris, a Baptist minister, wins congressional election in North Carolina after it's discovered that his campaign manager filled out absentee ballots for voters:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article226628829.html

https://religionnews.com/2018/12/04/southern-baptist-minister-embroiled-in-election-fraud-controversy/

A campaign aide for VA Congressman Scott Taylor commits fraud to get a third-party candidate on the ballot to improve Taylor's chances of re-election in 2018:

https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/virginia-politics/ex-scott-taylor-staffer-pleads-guilty-to-signing-election-petitions-she-didnt-circulate/


I'm with you to stop voter fraud. It happens as you so ably illustrated in the post above.

Stop voter fraud

Let's start with accurate vote counts, as that problem is orders of magnitude worse.
We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
"The fewer things politicians control, the less it matters who controls the politicians"
Osodecentx
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quash said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

Jinx 2 said:

Osodecentx said:

riflebear said:

These people were




I'll be damned. Isn't that impossible?
Your memory is awfully short (probably because the perps here are white and Republican):

Mark Harris, a Baptist minister, wins congressional election in North Carolina after it's discovered that his campaign manager filled out absentee ballots for voters:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article226628829.html

https://religionnews.com/2018/12/04/southern-baptist-minister-embroiled-in-election-fraud-controversy/

A campaign aide for VA Congressman Scott Taylor commits fraud to get a third-party candidate on the ballot to improve Taylor's chances of re-election in 2018:

https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/virginia-politics/ex-scott-taylor-staffer-pleads-guilty-to-signing-election-petitions-she-didnt-circulate/


I'm with you to stop voter fraud. It happens as you so ably illustrated in the post above.

Stop voter fraud

Let's start with accurate vote counts, as that problem is orders of magnitude worse.
We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
HashTag
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Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

Jinx 2 said:

Osodecentx said:

riflebear said:

These people were




I'll be damned. Isn't that impossible?
Your memory is awfully short (probably because the perps here are white and Republican):

Mark Harris, a Baptist minister, wins congressional election in North Carolina after it's discovered that his campaign manager filled out absentee ballots for voters:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article226628829.html

https://religionnews.com/2018/12/04/southern-baptist-minister-embroiled-in-election-fraud-controversy/

A campaign aide for VA Congressman Scott Taylor commits fraud to get a third-party candidate on the ballot to improve Taylor's chances of re-election in 2018:

https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/virginia-politics/ex-scott-taylor-staffer-pleads-guilty-to-signing-election-petitions-she-didnt-circulate/


I'm with you to stop voter fraud. It happens as you so ably illustrated in the post above.

Stop voter fraud

Let's start with accurate vote counts, as that problem is orders of magnitude worse.
We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
According the liberal left, every black person on the planet
quash
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Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

Jinx 2 said:

Osodecentx said:

riflebear said:

These people were




I'll be damned. Isn't that impossible?
Your memory is awfully short (probably because the perps here are white and Republican):

Mark Harris, a Baptist minister, wins congressional election in North Carolina after it's discovered that his campaign manager filled out absentee ballots for voters:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article226628829.html

https://religionnews.com/2018/12/04/southern-baptist-minister-embroiled-in-election-fraud-controversy/

A campaign aide for VA Congressman Scott Taylor commits fraud to get a third-party candidate on the ballot to improve Taylor's chances of re-election in 2018:

https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/virginia-politics/ex-scott-taylor-staffer-pleads-guilty-to-signing-election-petitions-she-didnt-circulate/


I'm with you to stop voter fraud. It happens as you so ably illustrated in the post above.

Stop voter fraud

Let's start with accurate vote counts, as that problem is orders of magnitude worse.
We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
Not every picture ID works: college IDs for one. Because kids vote for Democrats. So even that solution was politicized. There may be a partisan reason not to count every ****ing vote.
"The fewer things politicians control, the less it matters who controls the politicians"
Johnny Bear
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TexasScientist said:

Johnny Bear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Johnny Bear said:

quash said:

Johnny Bear said:

It's understood there are those of you that will be voting AGAINST Trump, which means voting for Biden. I get it that some of you hate Trump so much you'd vote for a sewer rat if that was the other option - which I think is simultaneously both ignorant and dangerous - but I get it that you feel that way. That aside, I'm curious who is honestly excited and enthused to vote FOR Biden. If you are, please explain why and answers like "because Trump sucks" or "because Orange Man Bad" or "because Trump is crazy" don't count. I understand and accept that you feel that way, but I'm really curious about what POSITIVE reasons you see to vote FOR Biden. Especially interested in answers from those of you that claim to be business tycoons, oil barons, high income earners, lawyers, scientists, and concerned pastors. How will a Biden Presidency actually be positive for or help you, your business or vocation, and the country in general?

Looking forward to your responses.
Another thread ignoring third parties.
Oh, great point. So many third party candidates have been successful through the years.
Hmm. Do you know how many 3rd party candidates collected electoral votes?

They may not have won, but they have decided Presidential elections before.
True, with the most notable recent historical example being Ross Perot who delivered 43% of the popular vote Bill Clinton in 1992 and was also a significant factor in helping 46% of the popular vote Bill Clinton in 1996.

But....none of them (i.e. 3rd party candidates) ever come anywhere close to being elected and voting for one of them might feel good as a "protest" type vote to some people, but the real bottom line is it's a wasted vote every time and you might well be participating in electing the greater of two evils if that's what you think of the two major party candidates.
You may elect one of the two evils, greater or not, but when you have two evils, is everyone had the fortitude and good conscience to vote for a third party candidate (if they were qualified) we would have a less polarizing political environment.
And if pigs had wings they'd fly.

Why waste time fantasizing about something that's never going to happen?
quash
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Johnny Bear said:

TexasScientist said:

Johnny Bear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Johnny Bear said:

quash said:

Johnny Bear said:

It's understood there are those of you that will be voting AGAINST Trump, which means voting for Biden. I get it that some of you hate Trump so much you'd vote for a sewer rat if that was the other option - which I think is simultaneously both ignorant and dangerous - but I get it that you feel that way. That aside, I'm curious who is honestly excited and enthused to vote FOR Biden. If you are, please explain why and answers like "because Trump sucks" or "because Orange Man Bad" or "because Trump is crazy" don't count. I understand and accept that you feel that way, but I'm really curious about what POSITIVE reasons you see to vote FOR Biden. Especially interested in answers from those of you that claim to be business tycoons, oil barons, high income earners, lawyers, scientists, and concerned pastors. How will a Biden Presidency actually be positive for or help you, your business or vocation, and the country in general?

Looking forward to your responses.
Another thread ignoring third parties.
Oh, great point. So many third party candidates have been successful through the years.
Hmm. Do you know how many 3rd party candidates collected electoral votes?

They may not have won, but they have decided Presidential elections before.
True, with the most notable recent historical example being Ross Perot who delivered 43% of the popular vote Bill Clinton in 1992 and was also a significant factor in helping 46% of the popular vote Bill Clinton in 1996.

But....none of them (i.e. 3rd party candidates) ever come anywhere close to being elected and voting for one of them might feel good as a "protest" type vote to some people, but the real bottom line is it's a wasted vote every time and you might well be participating in electing the greater of two evils if that's what you think of the two major party candidates.
You may elect one of the two evils, greater or not, but when you have two evils, is everyone had the fortitude and good conscience to vote for a third party candidate (if they were qualified) we would have a less polarizing political environment.
And if pigs had wings they'd fly.

Why waste time fantasizing about something that's never going to happen?
It happens in local elections. National is not a fantasy.
"The fewer things politicians control, the less it matters who controls the politicians"
Johnny Bear
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quash said:

Johnny Bear said:

TexasScientist said:

Johnny Bear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Johnny Bear said:

quash said:

Johnny Bear said:

It's understood there are those of you that will be voting AGAINST Trump, which means voting for Biden. I get it that some of you hate Trump so much you'd vote for a sewer rat if that was the other option - which I think is simultaneously both ignorant and dangerous - but I get it that you feel that way. That aside, I'm curious who is honestly excited and enthused to vote FOR Biden. If you are, please explain why and answers like "because Trump sucks" or "because Orange Man Bad" or "because Trump is crazy" don't count. I understand and accept that you feel that way, but I'm really curious about what POSITIVE reasons you see to vote FOR Biden. Especially interested in answers from those of you that claim to be business tycoons, oil barons, high income earners, lawyers, scientists, and concerned pastors. How will a Biden Presidency actually be positive for or help you, your business or vocation, and the country in general?

Looking forward to your responses.
Another thread ignoring third parties.
Oh, great point. So many third party candidates have been successful through the years.
Hmm. Do you know how many 3rd party candidates collected electoral votes?

They may not have won, but they have decided Presidential elections before.
True, with the most notable recent historical example being Ross Perot who delivered 43% of the popular vote Bill Clinton in 1992 and was also a significant factor in helping 46% of the popular vote Bill Clinton in 1996.

But....none of them (i.e. 3rd party candidates) ever come anywhere close to being elected and voting for one of them might feel good as a "protest" type vote to some people, but the real bottom line is it's a wasted vote every time and you might well be participating in electing the greater of two evils if that's what you think of the two major party candidates.
You may elect one of the two evils, greater or not, but when you have two evils, is everyone had the fortitude and good conscience to vote for a third party candidate (if they were qualified) we would have a less polarizing political environment.
And if pigs had wings they'd fly.

Why waste time fantasizing about something that's never going to happen?
It happens in local elections. National is not a fantasy.
The discussion is about POTUS candidates. Please try to keep up.
quash
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Johnny Bear said:

quash said:

Johnny Bear said:

TexasScientist said:

Johnny Bear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Johnny Bear said:

quash said:

Johnny Bear said:

It's understood there are those of you that will be voting AGAINST Trump, which means voting for Biden. I get it that some of you hate Trump so much you'd vote for a sewer rat if that was the other option - which I think is simultaneously both ignorant and dangerous - but I get it that you feel that way. That aside, I'm curious who is honestly excited and enthused to vote FOR Biden. If you are, please explain why and answers like "because Trump sucks" or "because Orange Man Bad" or "because Trump is crazy" don't count. I understand and accept that you feel that way, but I'm really curious about what POSITIVE reasons you see to vote FOR Biden. Especially interested in answers from those of you that claim to be business tycoons, oil barons, high income earners, lawyers, scientists, and concerned pastors. How will a Biden Presidency actually be positive for or help you, your business or vocation, and the country in general?

Looking forward to your responses.
Another thread ignoring third parties.
Oh, great point. So many third party candidates have been successful through the years.
Hmm. Do you know how many 3rd party candidates collected electoral votes?

They may not have won, but they have decided Presidential elections before.
True, with the most notable recent historical example being Ross Perot who delivered 43% of the popular vote Bill Clinton in 1992 and was also a significant factor in helping 46% of the popular vote Bill Clinton in 1996.

But....none of them (i.e. 3rd party candidates) ever come anywhere close to being elected and voting for one of them might feel good as a "protest" type vote to some people, but the real bottom line is it's a wasted vote every time and you might well be participating in electing the greater of two evils if that's what you think of the two major party candidates.
You may elect one of the two evils, greater or not, but when you have two evils, is everyone had the fortitude and good conscience to vote for a third party candidate (if they were qualified) we would have a less polarizing political environment.
And if pigs had wings they'd fly.

Why waste time fantasizing about something that's never going to happen?
It happens in local elections. National is not a fantasy.
The discussion is about POTUS candidates. Please try to keep up.
You keep up. I said national is not a fantasy and Jorgensen is a candidate, no matter how much you try to ignore her.
"The fewer things politicians control, the less it matters who controls the politicians"
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HashTag said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:



We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
According the liberal left, every black person on the planet
This kind of answer is why I have you on ignore.

People who don't drive, who tend to be elderly and often poor.

People with disabilities--can't drive, may not have a work or other functional ID.

No one should be disenfranchised because he or she is elderly, disabled or doesn't drive for whatever other reason (lots of New Yorkers don't, for example, but you probsably consider thim "liberal left" even though New York produced Trump.
Johnny Bear
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So now that we pretty much established there's little to no positive excitement for Biden (beyond Trump hate), somebody please explain to me how you win an election for POTUS based solely on the "I hate the other guy so bad I'll vote for anybody or anything else" votes(?)
blackie
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Johnny Bear said:

So now that we pretty much established there's little to no positive excitement for Biden (beyond Trump hate), somebody please explain to me how you win an election for POTUS based solely on the "I hate the other guy so bad I'll vote for anybody or anything else" votes(?)
Actually in a lot of people's mind this is exactly how Trump got elected. Especially for the long-term Dem voters that just couldn't stand Clinton. And those may have been the difference in those midwestern states that Trump barely won.
Osodecentx
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blackie said:

Johnny Bear said:

So now that we pretty much established there's little to no positive excitement for Biden (beyond Trump hate), somebody please explain to me how you win an election for POTUS based solely on the "I hate the other guy so bad I'll vote for anybody or anything else" votes(?)
Actually in a lot of people's mind this is exactly how Trump got elected. Especially for the long-term Dem voters that just couldn't stand Clinton. And those may have been the difference in those midwestern states that Trump barely won.

I agree with this
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Jinx 2 said:

HashTag said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:



We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
According the liberal left, every black person on the planet
This kind of answer is why I have you on ignore.

People who don't drive, who tend to be elderly and often poor.

People with disabilities--can't drive, may not have a work or other functional ID.

No one should be disenfranchised because he or she is elderly, disabled or doesn't drive for whatever other reason (lots of New Yorkers don't, for example, but you probsably consider thim "liberal left" even though New York produced Trump.
I'm calling BS on you having him on ignore, seeing as how you directly quoted him.
HashTag
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Jinx 2 said:

HashTag said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:



We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
According the liberal left, every black person on the planet
This kind of answer is why I have you on ignore.

People who don't drive, who tend to be elderly and often poor.

People with disabilities--can't drive, may not have a work or other functional ID.

No one should be disenfranchised because he or she is elderly, disabled or doesn't drive for whatever other reason (lots of New Yorkers don't, for example, but you probsably consider thim "liberal left" even though New York produced Trump.
Probably not why she has me on ignore....

Most likely because I keep hitting her on the head over her #metoobutonlysometimes stance on women who report sexual assault if it harms a democrat.

Hypocrisy at its best.
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Friscobear said:

Jinx 2 said:

HashTag said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:



We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
According the liberal left, every black person on the planet
This kind of answer is why I have you on ignore.

People who don't drive, who tend to be elderly and often poor.

People with disabilities--can't drive, may not have a work or other functional ID.

No one should be disenfranchised because he or she is elderly, disabled or doesn't drive for whatever other reason (lots of New Yorkers don't, for example, but you probsably consider thim "liberal left" even though New York produced Trump.
I'm calling BS on you having him on ignore, seeing as how you directly quoted him.
Ha!
quash
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Johnny Bear said:

So now that we pretty much established there's little to no positive excitement for Biden (beyond Trump hate), somebody please explain to me how you win an election for POTUS based solely on the "I hate the other guy so bad I'll vote for anybody or anything else" votes(?)


Did you sleep through 2016?
"The fewer things politicians control, the less it matters who controls the politicians"
Oldbear83
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quash said:

Johnny Bear said:

So now that we pretty much established there's little to no positive excitement for Biden (beyond Trump hate), somebody please explain to me how you win an election for POTUS based solely on the "I hate the other guy so bad I'll vote for anybody or anything else" votes(?)


Did you sleep through 2016?
Trump had a lot of energized voters in 2016. Did you miss that?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
quash
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Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Johnny Bear said:

So now that we pretty much established there's little to no positive excitement for Biden (beyond Trump hate), somebody please explain to me how you win an election for POTUS based solely on the "I hate the other guy so bad I'll vote for anybody or anything else" votes(?)


Did you sleep through 2016?
Trump had a lot of energized voters in 2016. Did you miss that?

Energized by "Lock her up!!"
"The fewer things politicians control, the less it matters who controls the politicians"
Oldbear83
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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Johnny Bear said:

So now that we pretty much established there's little to no positive excitement for Biden (beyond Trump hate), somebody please explain to me how you win an election for POTUS based solely on the "I hate the other guy so bad I'll vote for anybody or anything else" votes(?)


Did you sleep through 2016?
Trump had a lot of energized voters in 2016. Did you miss that?

Energized by "Lock her up!!"
Among other slogans. You know, things like originalist judges, manufacturing jobs, and other promises he actually kept when he took office.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
quash
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Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Johnny Bear said:

So now that we pretty much established there's little to no positive excitement for Biden (beyond Trump hate), somebody please explain to me how you win an election for POTUS based solely on the "I hate the other guy so bad I'll vote for anybody or anything else" votes(?)


Did you sleep through 2016?
Trump had a lot of energized voters in 2016. Did you miss that?

Energized by "Lock her up!!"
Among other slogans. You know, things like originalist judges, manufacturing jobs, and other promises he actually kept when he took office.

I had totally forgotten the chants of "Nominate originalist judges!"
"The fewer things politicians control, the less it matters who controls the politicians"
Oldbear83
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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Johnny Bear said:

So now that we pretty much established there's little to no positive excitement for Biden (beyond Trump hate), somebody please explain to me how you win an election for POTUS based solely on the "I hate the other guy so bad I'll vote for anybody or anything else" votes(?)


Did you sleep through 2016?
Trump had a lot of energized voters in 2016. Did you miss that?

Energized by "Lock her up!!"
Among other slogans. You know, things like originalist judges, manufacturing jobs, and other promises he actually kept when he took office.

I had totally forgotten the chants of "Nominate originalist judges!"
I believe you missed quite a bit that happened in 2016. And may be missing important things now.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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quash said:

Johnny Bear said:

So now that we pretty much established there's little to no positive excitement for Biden (beyond Trump hate), somebody please explain to me how you win an election for POTUS based solely on the "I hate the other guy so bad I'll vote for anybody or anything else" votes(?)


Did you sleep through 2016?
Johnny is sleepwalking thru life.
Wallace
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Friscobear said:

Jinx 2 said:

HashTag said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:



We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
According the liberal left, every black person on the planet
This kind of answer is why I have you on ignore.

People who don't drive, who tend to be elderly and often poor.

People with disabilities--can't drive, may not have a work or other functional ID.

No one should be disenfranchised because he or she is elderly, disabled or doesn't drive for whatever other reason (lots of New Yorkers don't, for example, but you probsably consider thim "liberal left" even though New York produced Trump.
I'm calling BS on you having him on ignore, seeing as how you directly quoted him.
That all you got?

She's in yr head, dude. Maybe comment on the thread and ignore her?
Friscobear
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Wallace said:

Friscobear said:

Jinx 2 said:

HashTag said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:



We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
According the liberal left, every black person on the planet
This kind of answer is why I have you on ignore.

People who don't drive, who tend to be elderly and often poor.

People with disabilities--can't drive, may not have a work or other functional ID.

No one should be disenfranchised because he or she is elderly, disabled or doesn't drive for whatever other reason (lots of New Yorkers don't, for example, but you probsably consider thim "liberal left" even though New York produced Trump.
I'm calling BS on you having him on ignore, seeing as how you directly quoted him.
That all you got?

She's in yr head, dude. Maybe comment on the thread and ignore her?

Okay.
ShooterTX
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quash said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

Jinx 2 said:

Osodecentx said:

riflebear said:

These people were




I'll be damned. Isn't that impossible?
Your memory is awfully short (probably because the perps here are white and Republican):

Mark Harris, a Baptist minister, wins congressional election in North Carolina after it's discovered that his campaign manager filled out absentee ballots for voters:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article226628829.html

https://religionnews.com/2018/12/04/southern-baptist-minister-embroiled-in-election-fraud-controversy/

A campaign aide for VA Congressman Scott Taylor commits fraud to get a third-party candidate on the ballot to improve Taylor's chances of re-election in 2018:

https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/virginia-politics/ex-scott-taylor-staffer-pleads-guilty-to-signing-election-petitions-she-didnt-circulate/


I'm with you to stop voter fraud. It happens as you so ably illustrated in the post above.

Stop voter fraud

Let's start with accurate vote counts, as that problem is orders of magnitude worse.
We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
Not every picture ID works: college IDs for one. Because kids vote for Democrats. So even that solution was politicized. There may be a partisan reason not to count every ****ing vote.


College ID is no good because they are too easy to fake, and they often give them to people based on just filing out a form... no verification needed.
It's a joke to think that college ID is reliable... but then again, you're a liberal... so maybe I should speak slower and eliminate the big words.
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Jinx 2 said:

HashTag said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:



We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
According the liberal left, every black person on the planet
This kind of answer is why I have you on ignore.

People who don't drive, who tend to be elderly and often poor.

People with disabilities--can't drive, may not have a work or other functional ID.

No one should be disenfranchised because he or she is elderly, disabled or doesn't drive for whatever other reason (lots of New Yorkers don't, for example, but you probsably consider thim "liberal left" even though New York produced Trump.


This is laughably stupid.
The majority of people in NYC have some form of government issued picture ID. They have to have it to buy cigarettes, beer, whiskey, wine, Sudafed, cash a check, write a check, etc.
They are New Yorkers, not ******s.
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ShooterTX said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

Jinx 2 said:

Osodecentx said:

riflebear said:

These people were




I'll be damned. Isn't that impossible?
Your memory is awfully short (probably because the perps here are white and Republican):

Mark Harris, a Baptist minister, wins congressional election in North Carolina after it's discovered that his campaign manager filled out absentee ballots for voters:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article226628829.html

https://religionnews.com/2018/12/04/southern-baptist-minister-embroiled-in-election-fraud-controversy/

A campaign aide for VA Congressman Scott Taylor commits fraud to get a third-party candidate on the ballot to improve Taylor's chances of re-election in 2018:

https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/virginia-politics/ex-scott-taylor-staffer-pleads-guilty-to-signing-election-petitions-she-didnt-circulate/


I'm with you to stop voter fraud. It happens as you so ably illustrated in the post above.

Stop voter fraud

Let's start with accurate vote counts, as that problem is orders of magnitude worse.
We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
Not every picture ID works: college IDs for one. Because kids vote for Democrats. So even that solution was politicized. There may be a partisan reason not to count every ****ing vote.


College ID is no good because they are too easy to fake, and they often give them to people based on just filing out a form... no verification needed.
It's a joke to think that college ID is reliable... but then again, you're a liberal... so maybe I should speak slower and eliminate the big words.
Just filling out a form and going to class. Kinda like the CHL permit.

And it would take someone who thinks I'm a liberal not to realize 15 year olds can get a fake driver's license.
"The fewer things politicians control, the less it matters who controls the politicians"
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quash said:

ShooterTX said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:

Jinx 2 said:

Osodecentx said:

riflebear said:

These people were




I'll be damned. Isn't that impossible?
Your memory is awfully short (probably because the perps here are white and Republican):

Mark Harris, a Baptist minister, wins congressional election in North Carolina after it's discovered that his campaign manager filled out absentee ballots for voters:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article226628829.html

https://religionnews.com/2018/12/04/southern-baptist-minister-embroiled-in-election-fraud-controversy/

A campaign aide for VA Congressman Scott Taylor commits fraud to get a third-party candidate on the ballot to improve Taylor's chances of re-election in 2018:

https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/virginia-politics/ex-scott-taylor-staffer-pleads-guilty-to-signing-election-petitions-she-didnt-circulate/


I'm with you to stop voter fraud. It happens as you so ably illustrated in the post above.

Stop voter fraud

Let's start with accurate vote counts, as that problem is orders of magnitude worse.
We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
Not every picture ID works: college IDs for one. Because kids vote for Democrats. So even that solution was politicized. There may be a partisan reason not to count every ****ing vote.


College ID is no good because they are too easy to fake, and they often give them to people based on just filing out a form... no verification needed.
It's a joke to think that college ID is reliable... but then again, you're a liberal... so maybe I should speak slower and eliminate the big words.


And it would take someone who thinks I'm a liberal not to realize 15 year olds can get a fake driver's license.
Getting a driver's license at 15 is not that far-fetched. I got a "hardship" driver's license at 15 because there was not a bus to take me to school. Not sure if such exceptions are still made or not.
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Jinx 2 said:

HashTag said:

Osodecentx said:

quash said:

Osodecentx said:



We should do both
We should have. Instead, we wasted years on Voter ID.
Who doesn't have a picture ID?
According the liberal left, every black person on the planet
This kind of answer is why I have you on ignore.

People who don't drive, who tend to be elderly and often poor.

People with disabilities--can't drive, may not have a work or other functional ID.

No one should be disenfranchised because he or she is elderly, disabled or doesn't drive for whatever other reason (lots of New Yorkers don't, for example, but you probsably consider thim "liberal left" even though New York produced Trump.
I understand what you are saying but as a teacher who works with a special population, I require them to have a state ID.
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It is funny how stupid people are. Biden was in Congress for 30 years and vice president for eight? Does he have a single accomplishment? Any that point to his current agenda? I mean what kind of idiot would vote for a guy to do stuff he has not done for the last 40 years?
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Flaming Moderate said:

It is funny how stupid people are. Biden was in Congress for 30 years and vice president for eight? Does he have a single accomplishment? Any that point to his current agenda? I mean what kind of idiot would vote for a guy to do stuff he has not done for the last 40 years?


Not only that but look in Biden's eyes

He's aged prematurely recently and there's most likely a reason and it appears possibly dementia

Why would Democrat Party run him? Because the Socialist/Marxist they prefer to destroy our country will be Bidens'(or the Democrat Party) chosen golden goose(like obama was) VP pick

Biden is nothing but a Trojan Horse

Why isn't this obvious to all
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blackie said:

Johnny Bear said:

So now that we pretty much established there's little to no positive excitement for Biden (beyond Trump hate), somebody please explain to me how you win an election for POTUS based solely on the "I hate the other guy so bad I'll vote for anybody or anything else" votes(?)
Actually in a lot of people's mind this is exactly how Trump got elected. Especially for the long-term Dem voters that just couldn't stand Clinton. And those may have been the difference in those midwestern states that Trump barely won.


Actually, those peoples minds are wrong. I addressed this in some detail earlier in the thread, but Trump ran on a stated agenda of proactive and positive things he would do if elected in 2016, much of which has been fulfilled or is being fulfilled and that's amazing given the opposition he's had to deal with. Hillary being a weak candidate helped, but Trump in no way ran based exclusively on "my opponent sucks and that's it" as Biden is doing. It's amazing to me how many people are still so blind as to why Trump won in 2016 and why he's going to do it again in 2020.
 
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