Face masks are not going to be mandatory in Bell County after all.

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Carlos Safety
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gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
BaylorBJM
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Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?
Carlos Safety
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BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


All your doing is reciting how much personal freedom and liberty we have given to government and received precious little in return.

I don't smoke, but I think that if you want to then do it if the restaurant is ok with it. I am in favor of seat belts, but if you don't want to then fine. I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
bear2be2
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Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


All your doing is reciting how much personal freedom and liberty we have given to government and received precious little in return.

I don't smoke, but I think that if you want to then do it if the restaurant is ok with it. I am in favor of seat belts, but if you don't want to then fine. I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
The government isn't protecting you in this case. It's protecting others from you.

And in case there's still any question here, masks work.
BaylorBJM
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Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
Oh boy, you've missed the point entirely. Because some like yourself won't, we now unfortunately need the government to protect us from people like you.
Carlos Safety
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bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


All your doing is reciting how much personal freedom and liberty we have given to government and received precious little in return.

I don't smoke, but I think that if you want to then do it if the restaurant is ok with it. I am in favor of seat belts, but if you don't want to then fine. I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
The government isn't protecting you in this case. It's protecting others from you.


Not exactly. I am not sick and I am not contagious. Moreover, the government has no legitimate reason to believe I am sick or contagious.

What the government is saying is virtually all of us are sick or contagious. That is ludicrous and grounded in fear rather than reason. But that seems par for 2020 so far.
Carlos Safety
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BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
Oh boy, you've missed the point entirely. Because some like yourself won't, we now unfortunately need the government to protect us from people like you.


The point is I am not sick. I don't need a mask.
cinque
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Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Private businesses do,
Carlos Safety
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cinque said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Private businesses do,


Complete sentences can be your friend.
bear2be2
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Carlos Safety said:

bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


All your doing is reciting how much personal freedom and liberty we have given to government and received precious little in return.

I don't smoke, but I think that if you want to then do it if the restaurant is ok with it. I am in favor of seat belts, but if you don't want to then fine. I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
The government isn't protecting you in this case. It's protecting others from you.


Not exactly. I am not sick and I am not contagious. Moreover, the government has no legitimate reason to believe I am sick or contagious.

What the government is saying is virtually all of us are sick or contagious. That is ludicrous and grounded in fear rather than reason. But that seems par for 2020 so far.
It's neither ludicrous nor grounded in fear. It's grounded in science. A good number of COVID spreaders have been pre-symptomatic, if not asymptomatic. Unless you're testing daily, you won't know you have it until you experience symptoms, and by then you could have already spread it to a bunch of people, who will then go and spread it to more people.

A simple courtesy with a very minor inconvenience attached seems like a small price to pay to keep those around you safe.
Carlos Safety
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bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


All your doing is reciting how much personal freedom and liberty we have given to government and received precious little in return.

I don't smoke, but I think that if you want to then do it if the restaurant is ok with it. I am in favor of seat belts, but if you don't want to then fine. I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
The government isn't protecting you in this case. It's protecting others from you.


Not exactly. I am not sick and I am not contagious. Moreover, the government has no legitimate reason to believe I am sick or contagious.

What the government is saying is virtually all of us are sick or contagious. That is ludicrous and grounded in fear rather than reason. But that seems par for 2020 so far.
It's neither ludicrous nor grounded in fear. It's grounded in science. A good number of COVID spreaders have been pre-symptomatic, if not asymptomatic. Unless you're testing daily, you won't know you have it until you experience symptoms, and by then you could have already spread it to a bunch of people, who will then go and spread it to more people.

A simple courtesy with a very minor inconvenience attached seems like a small price to pay to keep those around you safe.


Let me make this simple. Asymptomatic spread is a fairy tale. And I don't need to be courteous to you. I don't even know you. Grow up. It is a virus. We can live with it like we live with other viral contagion.
bear2be2
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Carlos Safety said:

bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


All your doing is reciting how much personal freedom and liberty we have given to government and received precious little in return.

I don't smoke, but I think that if you want to then do it if the restaurant is ok with it. I am in favor of seat belts, but if you don't want to then fine. I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
The government isn't protecting you in this case. It's protecting others from you.


Not exactly. I am not sick and I am not contagious. Moreover, the government has no legitimate reason to believe I am sick or contagious.

What the government is saying is virtually all of us are sick or contagious. That is ludicrous and grounded in fear rather than reason. But that seems par for 2020 so far.
It's neither ludicrous nor grounded in fear. It's grounded in science. A good number of COVID spreaders have been pre-symptomatic, if not asymptomatic. Unless you're testing daily, you won't know you have it until you experience symptoms, and by then you could have already spread it to a bunch of people, who will then go and spread it to more people.

A simple courtesy with a very minor inconvenience attached seems like a small price to pay to keep those around you safe.


Let me make this simple. Asymptomatic spread is a fairy tale. And I don't need to be courteous to you. I don't even know you. Grow up. It is a virus. We can live with it like we live with other viral contagion.
And there you have it folks. The selfish, science-denying attitude that brought us this reality:



Enjoy living with COVID the next two or three years, while every other country on the planet (except Brazil) gets on with life. Because selfish, undisciplined *****s have all but ensured that's our future.
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BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?
Good arguments:

Smoking - it should be up to the private business whether they will allow smoking at their establishment
Seatbelt - Disagree with the seatbelt law

Clothes argument is not legit. If you go naked, you're subjecting everyone that sees you to that horror, so you're "infecting" 100% of the people. If you're not sick, you're not infecting anyone. Oh, that's right, you could be sick - I hope you consider that everyone flu season from now on.

But while we're on the subject of gov't mandates, you would support a mandate requiring citizens to carry a gun?

But back to Cheeve's. If they wanted to make their establishment clothing optional, it should be their choice. You know, as a privately owned business.
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BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
Oh boy, you've missed the point entirely. Because some like yourself won't, we now unfortunately need the government to protect us from people like you.
I remember back in the 80s when A.I.D.S. became the story of the decade. Primarily, it was gay/bi-sexual men contracting the disease, then ended up being a problem for heterosexuals too.

When HIV first became known, maybe the gov't should've banned gay sex, shut down gay bars, ran raids on gay prostitution, gay porn, etc....? You know, to "flatten the curve"
bear2be2
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HashTag said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
Oh boy, you've missed the point entirely. Because some like yourself won't, we now unfortunately need the government to protect us from people like you.
I remember back in the 80s when A.I.D.S. became the story of the decade. Primarily, it was gay/bi-sexual men contracting the disease, then ended up being a problem for heterosexuals too.

When HIV first became known, maybe the gov't should've banned gay sex, shut down gay bars, ran raids on gay prostitution, gay porn, etc....? You know, to "flatten the curve"
Wouldn't it make more sense to recommend/mandate the use of condoms? You know, a simple barrier that helps prevent the passing of disease from one person to the next?
D. C. Bear
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Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
Oh boy, you've missed the point entirely. Because some like yourself won't, we now unfortunately need the government to protect us from people like you.


The point is I am not sick. I don't need a mask.


Since a person can carry and transmit the COVID 19 virus without being symptomatic, the point is you don't know if you are sick or not. You do need a mask because you don't know what you think you know.
D. C. Bear
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bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


All your doing is reciting how much personal freedom and liberty we have given to government and received precious little in return.

I don't smoke, but I think that if you want to then do it if the restaurant is ok with it. I am in favor of seat belts, but if you don't want to then fine. I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
The government isn't protecting you in this case. It's protecting others from you.


Not exactly. I am not sick and I am not contagious. Moreover, the government has no legitimate reason to believe I am sick or contagious.

What the government is saying is virtually all of us are sick or contagious. That is ludicrous and grounded in fear rather than reason. But that seems par for 2020 so far.
It's neither ludicrous nor grounded in fear. It's grounded in science. A good number of COVID spreaders have been pre-symptomatic, if not asymptomatic. Unless you're testing daily, you won't know you have it until you experience symptoms, and by then you could have already spread it to a bunch of people, who will then go and spread it to more people.

A simple courtesy with a very minor inconvenience attached seems like a small price to pay to keep those around you safe.


Let me make this simple. Asymptomatic spread is a fairy tale. And I don't need to be courteous to you. I don't even know you. Grow up. It is a virus. We can live with it like we live with other viral contagion.
And there you have it folks. The selfish, science-denying attitude that brought us this reality:



Enjoy living with COVID the next two or three years, while every other country on the planet (except Brazil) gets on with life. Because selfish, undisciplined *****s have all but ensured that's our future.


I know it makes you feel better to think this, but your logic is fubar. If you think about it, you will probably be able to figure out why.
cinque
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Carlos Safety said:

cinque said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Private businesses do,


Complete sentences can be your friend.
A complete understanding could be yours.
D. C. Bear
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Carlos Safety said:

bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


All your doing is reciting how much personal freedom and liberty we have given to government and received precious little in return.

I don't smoke, but I think that if you want to then do it if the restaurant is ok with it. I am in favor of seat belts, but if you don't want to then fine. I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
The government isn't protecting you in this case. It's protecting others from you.


Not exactly. I am not sick and I am not contagious. Moreover, the government has no legitimate reason to believe I am sick or contagious.

What the government is saying is virtually all of us are sick or contagious. That is ludicrous and grounded in fear rather than reason. But that seems par for 2020 so far.
It's neither ludicrous nor grounded in fear. It's grounded in science. A good number of COVID spreaders have been pre-symptomatic, if not asymptomatic. Unless you're testing daily, you won't know you have it until you experience symptoms, and by then you could have already spread it to a bunch of people, who will then go and spread it to more people.

A simple courtesy with a very minor inconvenience attached seems like a small price to pay to keep those around you safe.


Let me make this simple. Asymptomatic spread is a fairy tale. And I don't need to be courteous to you. I don't even know you. Grow up. It is a virus. We can live with it like we live with other viral contagion.


You have been deceived. People who do not recognize they are sick (pre symptomatic or asymptomatic makes no difference) do spread this virus.
D. C. Bear
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HashTag said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
Oh boy, you've missed the point entirely. Because some like yourself won't, we now unfortunately need the government to protect us from people like you.
I remember back in the 80s when A.I.D.S. became the story of the decade. Primarily, it was gay/bi-sexual men contracting the disease, then ended up being a problem for heterosexuals too.

When HIV first became known, maybe the gov't should've banned gay sex, shut down gay bars, ran raids on gay prostitution, gay porn, etc....? You know, to "flatten the curve"


In the United States, AIDS never really became a problem among people who were not either homosexual/bisexual men or sharing needles. (Not that there were never any cases, they were just not significant like they were in Africa). I am not sure why.
bear2be2
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D. C. Bear said:

bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

bear2be2 said:

Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


All your doing is reciting how much personal freedom and liberty we have given to government and received precious little in return.

I don't smoke, but I think that if you want to then do it if the restaurant is ok with it. I am in favor of seat belts, but if you don't want to then fine. I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
The government isn't protecting you in this case. It's protecting others from you.


Not exactly. I am not sick and I am not contagious. Moreover, the government has no legitimate reason to believe I am sick or contagious.

What the government is saying is virtually all of us are sick or contagious. That is ludicrous and grounded in fear rather than reason. But that seems par for 2020 so far.
It's neither ludicrous nor grounded in fear. It's grounded in science. A good number of COVID spreaders have been pre-symptomatic, if not asymptomatic. Unless you're testing daily, you won't know you have it until you experience symptoms, and by then you could have already spread it to a bunch of people, who will then go and spread it to more people.

A simple courtesy with a very minor inconvenience attached seems like a small price to pay to keep those around you safe.


Let me make this simple. Asymptomatic spread is a fairy tale. And I don't need to be courteous to you. I don't even know you. Grow up. It is a virus. We can live with it like we live with other viral contagion.
And there you have it folks. The selfish, science-denying attitude that brought us this reality:



Enjoy living with COVID the next two or three years, while every other country on the planet (except Brazil) gets on with life. Because selfish, undisciplined *****s have all but ensured that's our future.


I know it makes you feel better to think this, but your logic is fubar. If you think about it, you will probably be able to figure out why.
Don't be cryptic. If you have a point to make, make it.
blackie
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Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Uh, actually they do.....try to go walking around outside naked and see where that gets you.

Quote:

All your doing is reciting how much personal freedom and liberty we have given to government and received precious little in return.
You are joking right?
br53
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HashTag said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

BaylorBJM said:

Carlos Safety said:

gobears20 said:




Good for Bell County. Novel idea: the government does not get to dictate how people dress.
Is smoking inside restaurants in Bell County legal?
What about wearing a seatbelt when driving through Temple on I-35?
Are those same non-seatbelt wearing drivers also given passes on having drivers insurance?
What about clothes in general? If I wanted to post up at the bar at Cheeve's Brothers completely naked would the local law enforcement be okay with me doing so?


I just don't need the government to protect me from everything. Maybe you do.
Oh boy, you've missed the point entirely. Because some like yourself won't, we now unfortunately need the government to protect us from people like you.
I remember back in the 80s when A.I.D.S. became the story of the decade. Primarily, it was gay/bi-sexual men contracting the disease, then ended up being a problem for heterosexuals too.

When HIV first became known, maybe the gov't should've banned gay sex, shut down gay bars, ran raids on gay prostitution, gay porn, etc....? You know, to "flatten the curve"
Or people could have been smart and worn a condom, similar to wearing a face mask. Not 100% guaranteed and doesnt feel great but can atleast help slow the spread.
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McLennan County follows suit. No county-wide mask ordinance.
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