robby44 said:

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Trump says schools should reopen because children are 'virtually immune'

Also
Barron Trump's Private School to Stay Closed Through October Due to COVID-19

https://time.com/5874742/barron-trump-school-coronavirus/

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The Importance of Reopening America's Schools this Fall

Aside from a child's home, no other setting has more influence on a child's health and well-being than their school. The in-person school environment does the following:

• provides educational instruction;
• supports the development of social and emotional skills;
• creates a safe environment for learning;
• addresses nutritional needs; and
• facilitates physical activity.

COVID-19 and Children
The best available evidence indicates that COVID-19 poses relatively low risks to school-aged children. Children appear to be at lower risk for contracting COVID-19 compared to adults. To put this in perspective, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), as of July 17, 2020, the United States reported that children and adolescents under 18 years old account for under 7 percent of COVID-19 cases and less than 0.1 percent of COVID-19-related deaths.[url=https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html#fn5][5][/url] Although relatively rare, flu-related deaths in children occur every year. From 2004-2005 to 2018-2019, flu-related deaths in children reported to CDC during regular flu seasons ranged from 37 to 187 deaths. During the H1N1pandemic (April 15, 2009 to October 2, 2010), 358 pediatric deaths were reported to CDC.

So far in this pandemic, deaths of children are less than in each of the last five flu seasons, with only 64.[url=https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html#footnote2][/url] Additionally, some children with certain underlying medical conditions, however, are at increased risk of severe illness from COVID-19.*

Scientific studies suggest that COVID-19 transmission among children in schools may be low. International studies that have assessed how readily COVID-19 spreads in schools also reveal low rates of transmission when community transmission is low. Based on current data, the rate of infection among younger school children, and from students to teachers, has been low, especially if proper precautions are followed. There have also been few reports of children being the primary source of COVID-19 transmission among family members.[url=https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html#fn6][6][/url],[url=https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html#fn7][7][/url],[url=https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html#fn8][8][/url] This is consistent with data from both virus and antibody testing, suggesting that children are not the primary drivers of COVID-19 spread in schools or in the community.[url=https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html#fn9][9][/url],[url=https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html#fn10][10][/url],[url=https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html#fn11][11][/url] No studies are conclusive, but the available evidence provides reason to believe that in-person schooling is in the best interest of students, particularly in the context of appropriate mitigation measures similar to those implemented at essential workplaces.

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Gruvin said:

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robby44 said:

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Trump says schools should reopen because children are 'virtually immune'

Also
Barron Trump's Private School to Stay Closed Through October Due to COVID-19

https://time.com/5874742/barron-trump-school-coronavirus/

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His wording wasnt great but the AAP agrees with his premise...

Mortality (43 states and NYC reported)*
Children were 0%-0.8% of all COVID-19 deaths, and 20 states reported zero child deaths
In states reporting, 0%-0.3% of all child COVID-19 cases resulted in death

It has also been found that children under 20 are 50% less likely to get the virus vs the people over 20

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Have more people under 24 died of covid-19 or influenza?

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George Truett said:

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Unbelievable that Facebook has to take down a post from the President of the United States because the information is so false.

And he's supposed to be leading us through this thing!

I'm thankful we're not facing an enemy attack or something!

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Texasjeremy said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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PEOPLE 24 & UNDER

Estimated Population - 31.7%
Coronavirus Deaths - 0.2%
Pneumonia Deaths - 0.4%
Flu Deaths - 2.4%

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Is this supposed to imply that it's OK for Trump to lie and say kids don't get it or carry it?

They take it home to their parents and grandparents. They give it to their teachers. Kids can't live on their own or self-isolate; they're cared for by adults of all ages, Who are vulnerable and some of whom have comorbidities that makes Covid more dangerous.

My question for the group is, why is it so important for Trump to be right about this that you are willing to completely ignore the growing evidence that he's really been wrong about it and that he's doubling down on his mistakes to make the outbreak worse?

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Its not meant to imply anything, it is just stats that go along with what was being discussed.

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Jinx 2 said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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PEOPLE 24 & UNDER

Estimated Population - 31.7%
Coronavirus Deaths - 0.2%
Pneumonia Deaths - 0.4%
Flu Deaths - 2.4%

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Is this supposed to imply that it's OK for Trump to lie and say kids don't get it or carry it?

They take it home to their parents and grandparents. They give it to their teachers. Kids can't live on their own or self-isolate; they're cared for by adults of all ages, Who are vulnerable and some of whom have comorbidities that makes Covid more dangerous.

My question for the group is, why is it so important for Trump to be right about this that you are willing to completely ignore the growing evidence that he's really been wrong about it and that he's doubling down on his mistakes to make the outbreak worse?

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Its not meant to imply anything, it is just stats that go along with what was being discussed.

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This argument might fly if your stats were revevant, but they don't include the percentage caseload of people under age 24 who have actually contracted coronavirus, which is the relevant statistic here.

Also, the kids Trump is talking about are school-aged kids, presumably 18 and under, so your data set is wrong.

Finally, Trump said kids were "almost immune." They may contract it and die from it in lower numbers, but they are most certainly not "almost immune," and some have died from it. The big issue is that they expose family members whose ages and underlying health conditions make THEM more likely to have a severe case resulting in permanent deficits or to die.

Trump is attempting to minimize the danger because he thinks opening schools will help him win reelection. Here's hoping we're past the tipping point where whatever self-aggrandizing misinformation he can spread will help him.

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Jinx 2 said:

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Green My Eyes said:

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So if I catch it, but my immune system handles it without difficulty or completely asymptomatically, then I might say that I was almost immune to it. It had not effect on me.

Saying so does not indicate that I couldn't be a carrier of it and infectious.

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Trump said what he said to imply that it was safe for children to go back to school.

It's clearly not true, but you and other conservatives are engaging in some serious mental gymnastics to make it true even if the dog won't hunt, the shoe don't fit and the check ain't in the mail.

But, based on what you've said, what that means is that he really doesn't care if kids bring it home to their families, who might have health conditions that make exposure to covid really dangerous.

The clear implication here is that Trump cares a lot more about optics--kids are in school! Life's back to normal!--than he does about the health and safety of the families of school-aged children.

Are you all OK with that?

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