No active fires in Canada I'm hearing? Nothing

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Florda_mike
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https://postlmg.cc/SJ5yfj62

^^^ Why do fires stop at Canadian border?

Environmentalist groups have stopped controlled burns of underbrush in Western states but Canada allows it

We do controlled burns for underbrush in Florida and rarely have uncontrollable wildfires fyi
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Federal parks are controlled be the federal government. What does Canada have that we dont have?
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Federal parks are controlled be the federal government. What does Canada have that we dont have?


Quebec
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LOLOLOLOL!!!! Climate change. Our idiots representing bankrupt cities and states in the U.S. will take the lead. I have determined Americans should no longer be allowed to reproduce.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Federal parks are controlled be the federal government. What does Canada have that we dont have?
I know the federal government is responsible for funding, but are local governments responsible for execution? I don't know the answer.
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contrario said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Federal parks are controlled be the federal government. What does Canada have that we dont have?
I know the federal government is responsible for funding, but are local governments responsible for execution? I don't know the answer.


It is the state's responsibility.
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Thee University
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It used to be called Global Warming but that lost it's value so they switched to climate change.

The climate has been changing for millions of years now.

Not clearing underbrush growth and trash trees & branches is just asking for a huge fire.

They are doing this to themselves. As usual. The California way!
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I always thought the National Park Service was a branch of the dept of the interior and responsible for maintaining national parks throughout the country.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I always thought the National Park Service was a branch of the dept of the interior and responsible for maintaining national parks throughout the country.


I googled it and read that it is the States Responsibility
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Federal parks are controlled be the federal government. What does Canada have that we dont have?
cafe au lait

rush (the erstwhile power trio)

poutine.

hockey night.

tim hortons.

the ability to properly cut undergrowth in their forests and the allowing of logging.

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br53 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I always thought the National Park Service was a branch of the dept of the interior and responsible for maintaining national parks throughout the country.


I googled it and read that it is the States Responsibility
The federal government owns and manages 57% of California's 33 million acres of forests. The state owns only 2.2% and local governments less than 1%. Private landowners have about 40%.

fubar
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California executes controlled fires, just like everyone else. Not sure where the lie started that it doesn't, but saying it doesn't is, in fact, a lie.

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/our-work/programs/prescribed-burning#:~:text=Sometimes%20called%20a%20controlled%20burn,fuels%20is%20projected%20to%20increase.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Federal parks are controlled be the federal government. What does Canada have that we dont have?
Rain.
br53
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

br53 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I always thought the National Park Service was a branch of the dept of the interior and responsible for maintaining national parks throughout the country.



I googled it and read that it is the States Responsibility
The federal government owns and manages 57% of California's 33 million acres of forests. The state owns only 2.2% and local governments less than 1%. Private landowners have about 40%.




Not sure buddy, just telling you what google says and the internet is never wrong
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cms186
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would that Map even show Fires in canada? its a National organisation, so presunably, would just show events in that Nation (ie, the USA)?
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fubar said:

California executes controlled fires, just like everyone else. Not sure where the lie started that it doesn't, but saying it doesn't is, in fact, a lie.

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/our-work/programs/prescribed-burning#:~:text=Sometimes%20called%20a%20controlled%20burn,fuels%20is%20projected%20to%20increase.
Not so fast, my friend.

Environmental laws passed over the past 40 years make controlled fires in California a bureaucratic nightmare. Gotta protect that sage grose.
https://www.hcn.org/blogs/goat/can-loosening-environmental-laws-tame-the-wests-flammable-forests

Private lands don't seem to be going up in smoke as the process isn't limited by government bureaucracy.
https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/california-is-on-fire-again-and-it-was-preventable/
fubar
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You say "bureaucratic nightmare." I say they do controlled fires all the time. Does California do enough? I'm not an expert and thus have no opinion that matters. I do tend to trust those who work in the field over politicians and internet gadflies.

California has some unique stressors -- climate and geographic -- that make wildfires particularly difficult. Comparing California to Florida is ridiculous. And blaming California's wildfire problem solely (or mostly) on mismanagement is equally stupid.
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fubar said:

You say "bureaucratic nightmare." I say they do controlled fires all the time. Does California do enough? I'm not an expert and thus have no opinion that matters. I do tend to trust those who work in the field over politicians and internet gadflies.

California has some unique stressors -- climate and geographic -- that make wildfires particularly difficult. Comparing California to Florida is ridiculous. And blaming California's wildfire problem solely (or mostly) on mismanagement is equally stupid.
I'm not an expert in forest management either, but from my perch as a casual observer I'd say that California is doing a piss poor job of it.
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Florda_mike said:

https://postlmg.cc/SJ5yfj62

^^^ Why do fires stop at Canadian border?

Environmentalist groups have stopped controlled burns of underbrush in Western states but Canada allows it

We do controlled burns for underbrush in Florida and rarely have uncontrollable wildfires fyi
having looked into this a little, the Fires DONT miraculously stop at the Canadian border, the map you posted only takes Fires in the US into account: https://governmentofbc.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f0ac328d88c74d07aa2ee385abe2a41b
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ABC BEAR said:

fubar said:

You say "bureaucratic nightmare." I say they do controlled fires all the time. Does California do enough? I'm not an expert and thus have no opinion that matters. I do tend to trust those who work in the field over politicians and internet gadflies.

California has some unique stressors -- climate and geographic -- that make wildfires particularly difficult. Comparing California to Florida is ridiculous. And blaming California's wildfire problem solely (or mostly) on mismanagement is equally stupid.
I'm not an expert in forest management either, but from my perch as a casual observer I'd say that California is doing a piss poor job of it.
At least California is consistent in doing piss poor jobs...
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Thee University said:

It used to be called Global Warming but that lost it's value so they switched to climate change.

The climate has been changing for millions of years now.

Not clearing underbrush growth and trash trees & branches is just asking for a huge fire.

They are doing this to themselves. As usual. The California way!
The myth/farce was switched to "(man made) climate change" so leftist ideologues could have it both ways in the event that a particular winter happened to be unusually cold in addition to a particular summer being unusually hot. In and of itself the moniker "climate change" is a well - duh! type of title because as you indicate the climate has been (NATURALLY) changing over the eons of time and will continue to (NATURALLY) change long after everyone alive today are gone. The key is we as humans have no power, no control and no ability to change it for either better or worse and we have absolutely no ability to stop it from changing however it's going to change. We CAN adapt to the change - but we can't alter the change. And who knows - maybe the change will actually have its benefits (why is it nobody even considers that possibility?).

The topic of being and acting environmentally responsible (often mistakenly conflated with the man made climate change nonsense) is a totally separate issue, because yes, we as humans do obviously impact the environment. We should be (and in the USA at least largely have been over the last half century plus) vigilant in this regard on an ongoing basis. With developing technologies, etc., there's always more that can and should be done to protect the environment, but the delusion that human beings can somehow change the natural climate is and always will be a preposterous notion.
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Mitch Blood Green
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Florda_mike said:

https://postlmg.cc/SJ5yfj62

^^^ Why do fires stop at Canadian border?

Environmentalist groups have stopped controlled burns of underbrush in Western states but Canada allows it

We do controlled burns for underbrush in Florida and rarely have uncontrollable wildfires fyi


It's the same reason you don't see fires in Greenland or Cuba on that map. That map doesn't show international fires. Try this one.



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