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joe is all about embelleshing a story to get some sympathy.
EatMoreSalmon said:
Until those whose job it is to prosecute crimes are willing to put themselves on the line, people of power in DC will not be held to account. It is a difficult thing to ask of them, as I am sure they will be subject to being "investigated" by those with an axe to grind and "income" to protect. And I am not talking about a single party affiliation.
^^^ Gets it as this is the heart of our "DC problem!"
The infinitely spinning merry go round of lies and deceit!
I have no problem believing in everything the democrats accused Trump Of doing with Russia that it was them doing it all.
A highly partisan new Senate report about Hunter Biden found no policy impact from his foreign dealings, but it just shed light on a Trump-Russia connection to the web of Trump's relationships around obtaining that information.
In the 1990s, Donald Trump "participated in negotiations" with Moscow's former mayor Yuri Luzhkov.
Today, it is the departed Mayor Luzhkov's wife, Yelena Baturina, who Republicans claim in the Hunter Biden propaganda papers that obtained a wire transfer from her for a Buffalo, New York tech company.
"Donald Trump met and dealt with Luzhkov for his 1996 trip to Moscow to start a Trump Tower project. Rudy Giuliani was dealing with an associate of Luzhkov's and Putin's named Pavel ***s, with whom Trump later transacted a real estate deal," says Olga Lautman, a Newsweek contributor and renowned Russian affairs researcher. "Luzhkov was the corrupt mayor who controlled Moscow, who was in with all of the elements of that society which are now identified with Russian intelligence activities and groups commonly identified as the Russian mafia. Many of Donald Trump's Russian associates like Mayor Luzhkov, are connected with those two factions in Moscow."
In the 1990s, Donald Trump "participated in negotiations" with Moscow's former mayor Yuri Luzhkov.
Today, it is the departed Mayor Luzhkov's wife, Yelena Baturina, who Republicans claim in the Hunter Biden propaganda papers that obtained a wire transfer from her for a Buffalo, New York tech company.
"Donald Trump met and dealt with Luzhkov for his 1996 trip to Moscow to start a Trump Tower project. Rudy Giuliani was dealing with an associate of Luzhkov's and Putin's named Pavel ***s, with whom Trump later transacted a real estate deal," says Olga Lautman, a Newsweek contributor and renowned Russian affairs researcher. "Luzhkov was the corrupt mayor who controlled Moscow, who was in with all of the elements of that society which are now identified with Russian intelligence activities and groups commonly identified as the Russian mafia. Many of Donald Trump's Russian associates like Mayor Luzhkov, are connected with those two factions in Moscow."
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Beyond the major flaws that neither Giuliani's son working in the White House nor a family serving as campaign surrogates are represent nepotism, your argument has a latent premise that it's bad for a POTUS to have a relative working on his own staff but OK for a POTUS to have a relative working on a board of directors for a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch AND raising money from Chinese parastatal companies.HuMcK said:
That's funny, here's one of their star witnesses blowing up their allegation with public testimony...
If this report is the culmination of all that Hunter Biden investigation hype, then y'all got played. Meanwhile Trump's daughter, son in law, Giuliani's son, and Barr's son all work in the White House (Trump even had to overrule his own FBI to get Ivanka and Jared security clearances, after promising not to do that), and Don Jr is his main campaign surrogate, but y'all expect people to believe y'all actually care about nepotism?
surely you could do better than that.
HuMcK said:
That's funny, here's one of their star witnesses blowing up their allegation with public testimony...
If this report is the culmination of all that Hunter Biden investigation hype, then y'all got played. Meanwhile Trump's daughter, son in law, Giuliani's son, and Barr's son all work in the White House (Trump even had to overrule his own FBI to get Ivanka and Jared security clearances, after promising not to do that), and Don Jr is his main campaign surrogate, but y'all expect people to believe y'all actually care about nepotism?
Do you leftists have a playbook that tells you how to divert from true accusations on your guilty candidates with changing the subject ASAP
With you chumps, it's always ..... "but he did this .... "
Blah .... blah blah blah ...... blah ....... blah blah
Thread hijacking is supposed to be a violation of the TOS.Florda_mike said:HuMcK said:
That's funny, here's one of their star witnesses blowing up their allegation with public testimony...
If this report is the culmination of all that Hunter Biden investigation hype, then y'all got played. Meanwhile Trump's daughter, son in law, Giuliani's son, and Barr's son all work in the White House (Trump even had to overrule his own FBI to get Ivanka and Jared security clearances, after promising not to do that), and Don Jr is his main campaign surrogate, but y'all expect people to believe y'all actually care about nepotism?
Do you leftists have a playbook that tells you how to divert from true accusations on your guilty candidates with changing the subject ASAP
With you chumps, it's always ..... "but he did this .... "
Blah .... blah blah blah ...... blah ....... blah blah
BornAgain said:
I wonder how many hookers Hunter is responsible for endangering?
Sounds like someone needs to investigate possible ties between Hunter Biden and Craig James.
whiterock said:Beyond the major flaws that neither Giuliani's son working in the White House nor a family serving as campaign surrogates are represent nepotism, your argument has a latent premise that it's bad for a POTUS to have a relative working on his own staff but OK for a POTUS to have a relative working on a board of directors for a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch AND raising money from Chinese parastatal companies.HuMcK said:
That's funny, here's one of their star witnesses blowing up their allegation with public testimony...
If this report is the culmination of all that Hunter Biden investigation hype, then y'all got played. Meanwhile Trump's daughter, son in law, Giuliani's son, and Barr's son all work in the White House (Trump even had to overrule his own FBI to get Ivanka and Jared security clearances, after promising not to do that), and Don Jr is his main campaign surrogate, but y'all expect people to believe y'all actually care about nepotism?
surely you could do better than that.
Andrew Giuliani is a White House Public Relations Liaison, specifically a sports liaison. Chief of Staff Kelly revoked his unescorted access to the West Wing, but Chief of Staff Mulvaney restored it. Looks like it's you that doesn't know the facts. I was wrong about one thing, Barr's son works at Treasury, not the White House. The most glaring example of nepotism I've ever seen is Ivanka and Jared getting security clearances over the objections of both CIA and White House Counsel, but of course y'all like authoritarian nepotism as long as it's team Red in charge, so y'all are fine with it.
Still stuck on nepotism I see. This is about corruption.HuMcK said:whiterock said:Beyond the major flaws that neither Giuliani's son working in the White House nor a family serving as campaign surrogates are represent nepotism, your argument has a latent premise that it's bad for a POTUS to have a relative working on his own staff but OK for a POTUS to have a relative working on a board of directors for a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch AND raising money from Chinese parastatal companies.HuMcK said:
That's funny, here's one of their star witnesses blowing up their allegation with public testimony...
If this report is the culmination of all that Hunter Biden investigation hype, then y'all got played. Meanwhile Trump's daughter, son in law, Giuliani's son, and Barr's son all work in the White House (Trump even had to overrule his own FBI to get Ivanka and Jared security clearances, after promising not to do that), and Don Jr is his main campaign surrogate, but y'all expect people to believe y'all actually care about nepotism?
surely you could do better than that.
Andrew Giuliani is a White House Public Relations Liaison, specifically a sports liaison. Chief of Staff Kelly revoked his unescorted access to the West Wing, but Chief of Staff Mulvaney restored it. Looks like it's you that doesn't know the facts. I was wrong about one thing, Barr's son works at Treasury, not the White House. The most glaring example of nepotism I've ever seen is Ivanka and Jared getting security clearances over the objections of both CIA and White House Counsel, but of course y'all like authoritarian nepotism as long as it's team Red in charge, so y'all are fine with it.
We're talking about Hunter Biden taking $3.5M from a former Moscow Mayor's wife into his bank account: the Moscow couple were connected to Putin.
When it's team blue...Russia isn't a problem huh
In point of fact, an investment firm that Hunter Biden worked for received money from the Russian woman, who had previously divorced the Mayor of Moscow, it was not a direct transfer to his bank account like you are characterizing.
It was a wire transfer directly to his account...HuMcK said:
In point of fact, an investment firm that Hunter Biden worked for received money from the Russian woman, who had previously divorced the Mayor of Moscow, it was not a direct transfer to his bank account like you are characterizing.
Don't care. Vote Trump!cinque said:
A highly partisan new Senate report about Hunter Biden found no policy impact from his foreign dealings, but it just shed light on a Trump-Russia connection to the web of Trump's relationships around obtaining that information.
In the 1990s, Donald Trump "participated in negotiations" with Moscow's former mayor Yuri Luzhkov.
Today, it is the departed Mayor Luzhkov's wife, Yelena Baturina, who Republicans claim in the Hunter Biden propaganda papers that obtained a wire transfer from her for a Buffalo, New York tech company.
"Donald Trump met and dealt with Luzhkov for his 1996 trip to Moscow to start a Trump Tower project. Rudy Giuliani was dealing with an associate of Luzhkov's and Putin's named Pavel ***s, with whom Trump later transacted a real estate deal," says Olga Lautman, a Newsweek contributor and renowned Russian affairs researcher. "Luzhkov was the corrupt mayor who controlled Moscow, who was in with all of the elements of that society which are now identified with Russian intelligence activities and groups commonly identified as the Russian mafia. Many of Donald Trump's Russian associates like Mayor Luzhkov, are connected with those two factions in Moscow."
Bunch of bots
So you didn't even read the document, great. The Moscow Mayor in question was fired from that job by Presidential decree in 2010 btw, not sure he was as cozy with Putin in 2014 as y'all paint him to be.
"The report details how Biden's business received a $3.5 million payment from Baturina in February 2014, which was described to be for "consultancy" work."
https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-received-35-million-payment-ex-moscow-mayors-wife-republican-report-says-1533834
"The report details how Biden's business received a $3.5 million payment from Baturina in February 2014, which was described to be for "consultancy" work."
https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-received-35-million-payment-ex-moscow-mayors-wife-republican-report-says-1533834
There ya go.Friscobear said:Don't care. Vote Trump!cinque said:
A highly partisan new Senate report about Hunter Biden found no policy impact from his foreign dealings, but it just shed light on a Trump-Russia connection to the web of Trump's relationships around obtaining that information.
In the 1990s, Donald Trump "participated in negotiations" with Moscow's former mayor Yuri Luzhkov.
Today, it is the departed Mayor Luzhkov's wife, Yelena Baturina, who Republicans claim in the Hunter Biden propaganda papers that obtained a wire transfer from her for a Buffalo, New York tech company.
"Donald Trump met and dealt with Luzhkov for his 1996 trip to Moscow to start a Trump Tower project. Rudy Giuliani was dealing with an associate of Luzhkov's and Putin's named Pavel ***s, with whom Trump later transacted a real estate deal," says Olga Lautman, a Newsweek contributor and renowned Russian affairs researcher. "Luzhkov was the corrupt mayor who controlled Moscow, who was in with all of the elements of that society which are now identified with Russian intelligence activities and groups commonly identified as the Russian mafia. Many of Donald Trump's Russian associates like Mayor Luzhkov, are connected with those two factions in Moscow."
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Dude.HuMcK said:whiterock said:Beyond the major flaws that neither Giuliani's son working in the White House nor a family serving as campaign surrogates are represent nepotism, your argument has a latent premise that it's bad for a POTUS to have a relative working on his own staff but OK for a POTUS to have a relative working on a board of directors for a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch AND raising money from Chinese parastatal companies.HuMcK said:
That's funny, here's one of their star witnesses blowing up their allegation with public testimony...
If this report is the culmination of all that Hunter Biden investigation hype, then y'all got played. Meanwhile Trump's daughter, son in law, Giuliani's son, and Barr's son all work in the White House (Trump even had to overrule his own FBI to get Ivanka and Jared security clearances, after promising not to do that), and Don Jr is his main campaign surrogate, but y'all expect people to believe y'all actually care about nepotism?
surely you could do better than that.
Andrew Giuliani is a White House Public Relations Liaison, specifically a sports liaison. Chief of Staff Kelly revoked his unescorted access to the West Wing, but Chief of Staff Mulvaney restored it. Looks like it's you that doesn't know the facts. I was wrong about one thing, Barr's son works at Treasury, not the White House. The most glaring example of nepotism I've ever seen is Ivanka and Jared getting security clearances over the objections of both CIA and White House Counsel, but of course y'all like authoritarian nepotism as long as it's team Red in charge, so y'all are fine with it.
Andrew Giuliani is not related to POTUS and his father, Rudy, does not work for the USG = no nepotism.
Your assertion on Ivanka & Jared presumes the objections were principled, and that they were material, i.e. the primary objection was "need to know." Moreover, every intel report ever disseminated has the follwoing tag line at the bottom "OADR DRV HUM (and then some numbers, which change as statute gets amended)." What that means to the laymen is...."this message is classified by authority derived from POTUS." ALL authority for classifications and declassifications are vested, per statute, in the President of the United States. He/She delegates as needed pursuant to the interest of the American People, who hold him/her accountable every 4 years.
Given what Jared accomplished recently in the Middle East, I'd say the decision to bring him on board was a wise one.
I don't know what Barr's son does at DOJ, but are you aware that Hunter Biden served in the US Navy while his father was VPOTUS. Same is true of Pence's son. Did you forget about those?
For nepotism to apply, you have to show benefit. just getting a security clearance (which are handed out like candy in Congress) is not a benefit per se.
Your Trump Derangement Syndrome meter is close to pegging.
What ever happened to that poster?whiterock said:HuMcK said:whiterock said:Beyond the major flaws that neither Giuliani's son working in the White House nor a family serving as campaign surrogates are represent nepotism, your argument has a latent premise that it's bad for a POTUS to have a relative working on his own staff but OK for a POTUS to have a relative working on a board of directors for a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch AND raising money from Chinese parastatal companies.HuMcK said:
That's funny, here's one of their star witnesses blowing up their allegation with public testimony...
If this report is the culmination of all that Hunter Biden investigation hype, then y'all got played. Meanwhile Trump's daughter, son in law, Giuliani's son, and Barr's son all work in the White House (Trump even had to overrule his own FBI to get Ivanka and Jared security clearances, after promising not to do that), and Don Jr is his main campaign surrogate, but y'all expect people to believe y'all actually care about nepotism?
surely you could do better than that.
Andrew Giuliani is a White House Public Relations Liaison, specifically a sports liaison. Chief of Staff Kelly revoked his unescorted access to the West Wing, but Chief of Staff Mulvaney restored it. Looks like it's you that doesn't know the facts. I was wrong about one thing, Barr's son works at Treasury, not the White House. The most glaring example of nepotism I've ever seen is Ivanka and Jared getting security clearances over the objections of both CIA and White House Counsel, but of course y'all like authoritarian nepotism as long as it's team Red in charge, so y'all are fine with it.
Your Trump Derangement Syndrome meter is close to pegging.
There ya go.Friscobear said:Don't care. Vote Trump!cinque said:
A highly partisan new Senate report about Hunter Biden found no policy impact from his foreign dealings, but it just shed light on a Trump-Russia connection to the web of Trump's relationships around obtaining that information.
In the 1990s, Donald Trump "participated in negotiations" with Moscow's former mayor Yuri Luzhkov.
Today, it is the departed Mayor Luzhkov's wife, Yelena Baturina, who Republicans claim in the Hunter Biden propaganda papers that obtained a wire transfer from her for a Buffalo, New York tech company.
"Donald Trump met and dealt with Luzhkov for his 1996 trip to Moscow to start a Trump Tower project. Rudy Giuliani was dealing with an associate of Luzhkov's and Putin's named Pavel ***s, with whom Trump later transacted a real estate deal," says Olga Lautman, a Ne contributor and renowned Russian affairs researcher. "Luzhkov was the corrupt mayor who controlled Moscow, who was in with all of the elements of that society which are now identified with Russian intelligence activities and groups commonly identified as the Russian mafia. Many of Donald Trump's Russian associates like Mayor Luzhkov, are connected with those two factions in Moscow."
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He shared premium content with Tceh boards one too many times and was bootedFriscobear said:What ever happened to that poster?whiterock said:HuMcK said:whiterock said:Beyond the major flaws that neither Giuliani's son working in the White House nor a family serving as campaign surrogates are represent nepotism, your argument has a latent premise that it's bad for a POTUS to have a relative working on his own staff but OK for a POTUS to have a relative working on a board of directors for a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch AND raising money from Chinese parastatal companies.HuMcK said:
That's funny, here's one of their star witnesses blowing up their allegation with public testimony...
If this report is the culmination of all that Hunter Biden investigation hype, then y'all got played. Meanwhile Trump's daughter, son in law, Giuliani's son, and Barr's son all work in the White House (Trump even had to overrule his own FBI to get Ivanka and Jared security clearances, after promising not to do that), and Don Jr is his main campaign surrogate, but y'all expect people to believe y'all actually care about nepotism?
surely you could do better than that.
Andrew Giuliani is a White House Public Relations Liaison, specifically a sports liaison. Chief of Staff Kelly revoked his unescorted access to the West Wing, but Chief of Staff Mulvaney restored it. Looks like it's you that doesn't know the facts. I was wrong about one thing, Barr's son works at Treasury, not the White House. The most glaring example of nepotism I've ever seen is Ivanka and Jared getting security clearances over the objections of both CIA and White House Counsel, but of course y'all like authoritarian nepotism as long as it's team Red in charge, so y'all are fine with it.
Your Trump Derangement Syndrome meter is close to pegging.
Hey Field Marshal Cinque, you should see what they are saying about WVU on premium!. Why don't you share it on the Mountaineer boards?DioNoZeus said:He shared premium content with Tceh boards one too many times and was bootedFriscobear said:What ever happened to that poster?whiterock said:HuMcK said:whiterock said:Beyond the major flaws that neither Giuliani's son working in the White House nor a family serving as campaign surrogates are represent nepotism, your argument has a latent premise that it's bad for a POTUS to have a relative working on his own staff but OK for a POTUS to have a relative working on a board of directors for a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch AND raising money from Chinese parastatal companies.HuMcK said:
That's funny, here's one of their star witnesses blowing up their allegation with public testimony...
If this report is the culmination of all that Hunter Biden investigation hype, then y'all got played. Meanwhile Trump's daughter, son in law, Giuliani's son, and Barr's son all work in the White House (Trump even had to overrule his own FBI to get Ivanka and Jared security clearances, after promising not to do that), and Don Jr is his main campaign surrogate, but y'all expect people to believe y'all actually care about nepotism?
surely you could do better than that.
Andrew Giuliani is a White House Public Relations Liaison, specifically a sports liaison. Chief of Staff Kelly revoked his unescorted access to the West Wing, but Chief of Staff Mulvaney restored it. Looks like it's you that doesn't know the facts. I was wrong about one thing, Barr's son works at Treasury, not the White House. The most glaring example of nepotism I've ever seen is Ivanka and Jared getting security clearances over the objections of both CIA and White House Counsel, but of course y'all like authoritarian nepotism as long as it's team Red in charge, so y'all are fine with it.
Your Trump Derangement Syndrome meter is close to pegging.
You're reading more into that statement than is there.HuMcK said:
So you didn't even read the document, great. The Moscow Mayor in question was fired from that job by Presidential decree in 2010 btw, not sure he was as cozy with Putin in 2014 as y'all paint him to be.
"The report details how Biden's business received a $3.5 million payment from Baturina in February 2014, which was described to be for "consultancy" work."
https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-received-35-million-payment-ex-moscow-mayors-wife-republican-report-says-1533834
A consultant can receive money directly to his personal account, even if it is related to his business or is for work he performed for his business. A separate account is not needed as long as the funds can be traced. The article does not say to which account the money was transferred.
I'd be curious if he owns the "consultant" firm he purportedly worked for,
And as an aside, as a business litigator, I have to say "consultant" fees can describe any number of illicit transactions and bribes.
What's sad is there is so much more smoke here than there was with the whole collusion narrative, but you can bet your life the media isn't going to touch it unless forced to. They want Trump gone, and Biden is just the useful idiot to accomplish that task.riflebear said:
Media obsessed (and still is) w/ Russia and Trump and here we have a real story about Russia collusion w/ the VP of the United States and the media is completely silent.
I can see now why you didn't want to delve any deeper into predication or support for your previous leading questions, even a cursory glance under the top-line signifigantly waters down your original claim. Now here you are talking about the possibility of Biden using personal accounts for business transactions, after previously being so certain that he had been paid a bribe directly...
It was paid to Rosemont Seneca Thornton LLC btw, which you would know if you bothered to read the document you have such strong opinions about. Some litigator you must be...
It was paid to Rosemont Seneca Thornton LLC btw, which you would know if you bothered to read the document you have such strong opinions about. Some litigator you must be...