Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him. What do you think?

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Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525845-prediction-trump-will-resign-pence-will-pardon-him

I think he has to, if he is smart. What do you think?
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TexasScientist said:

Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525845-prediction-trump-will-resign-pence-will-pardon-him

I think he has to, if he is smart. What do you think?
Pardon him for what? Being Donald Trump?
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

TexasScientist said:

Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525845-prediction-trump-will-resign-pence-will-pardon-him

I think he has to, if he is smart. What do you think?
Pardon him for what? Being Donald Trump?
Yep, for being Donald Trump. For federal charges of bank fraud, money laundering, RICO act violations etc.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Prediction: Biden will get lost after wandering out of the Oval Office looking for the bathroom. Kamala Harris will go find him and lead him back.

Kamala will go find him, - right? What do you think?
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
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TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

TexasScientist said:

Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525845-prediction-trump-will-resign-pence-will-pardon-him

I think he has to, if he is smart. What do you think?
Pardon him for what? Being Donald Trump?
Yep, for being Donald Trump. For federal charges of bank fraud, money laundering, RICO act violations etc.
Do you ever wonder if maybe you're the lefty analogue of the crazy old dude watching Hannity on TV getting high on rage and kooky conspiracies?
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Letitia James is hunting Trump - her charges can't be pardoned away, and James is self interested because it may parlay her into National AG role.

Pursuing a past President at the federal level is a precedent neither party wants to see. It would be too polarizing.
HuMcK
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For starters, there's a Grand Jury in Manhattan looking at Trump for felont tax fraud right now, that's what the fight in SCOTUS over his tax returns was about. Insurance fraud is likely too. He was a masked co-conspirator in Michael Cohen's felony campaign finance guilty plea, designated as Individual-1 in the charging document. Obstruction of Justice during Mueller, lies in his written answers to Mueller. And that's all before any investigation into rampant rumors of money laundering, or the lawsuits that will drain him dry (a judge has already ordered him to submit DNA evidence that would verify a rape claim against him in a defamation case).

What's I'm saying is, even if you don't hear about it on Newsmax or OAN, Trump has signifigant legal exposures on several fronts, it's why he is so desperate to not lose the protections of the White House. Trump is what a prosecutor would call a "target-rich environment".
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Dnicknames said:

Letitia James is hunting Trump - her charges can't be pardoned away, and James is self interested because it may parlay her into National AG role.

Pursuing a past President at the federal level is a precedent neither party wants to see. It would be too polarizing.
But, unity! Let's all come together (to punish the last administration!)
Canada2017
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TexasScientist said:

Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525845-prediction-trump-will-resign-pence-will-pardon-him

I think he has to, if he is smart. What do you think?
I think you lost your objectivity years ago .

Trump is not resigning nor ever going to jail.

For the same reasons Bill Clinton and Barrack Hussein Obama aren't .
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HuMcK said:

For starters, there's a Grand Jury in Manhattan looking at Trump for felont tax fraud right now, that's what the fight in SCOTUS over his tax returns was about. Insurance fraud is likely too. He was a masked co-conspirator in Michael Cohen's felony campaign finance guilty plea, designated as Individual-1 in the charging document. Obstruction of Justice during Mueller, lies in his written answers to Mueller. And that's all before any investigation into rampant rumors of money laundering, or the lawsuits that will drain him dry (a judge has already ordered him to submit DNA evidence that would verify a rape claim against him in a defamation case).

What's I'm saying is, even if you don't hear about it on Newsmax or OAN, Trump has signifigant legal exposures on several fronts, it's why he is so desperate to not lose the protections of the White House. Trump is what a prosecutor would call a "target-rich environment".
A Democrat party hack prosecutor with the backing of the NYT. Be. Very. Careful. Here. No one wants a political system where losers go to prison. That's how you really do end up with coups.
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OsoCoreyell said:

HuMcK said:

For starters, there's a Grand Jury in Manhattan looking at Trump for felont tax fraud right now, that's what the fight in SCOTUS over his tax returns was about. Insurance fraud is likely too. He was a masked co-conspirator in Michael Cohen's felony campaign finance guilty plea, designated as Individual-1 in the charging document. Obstruction of Justice during Mueller, lies in his written answers to Mueller. And that's all before any investigation into rampant rumors of money laundering, or the lawsuits that will drain him dry (a judge has already ordered him to submit DNA evidence that would verify a rape claim against him in a defamation case).

What's I'm saying is, even if you don't hear about it on Newsmax or OAN, Trump has signifigant legal exposures on several fronts, it's why he is so desperate to not lose the protections of the White House. Trump is what a prosecutor would call a "target-rich environment".
A Democrat party hack prosecutor with the backing of the NYT. Be. Very. Careful. Here. No one wants a political system where losers go to prison. That's how you really do end up with coups.
Bingo
HuMcK
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Maybe next time don't sell your entire souls to such an unrepentant criminal and you won't have to worry about such things. Especially now, with Trump spreading conspiracies and deliberately undermining the foundations of our Republic to save his own skin, the only (narrow) path to reconciliation involves accountability for Trump.
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OsoCoreyell said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

TexasScientist said:

Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525845-prediction-trump-will-resign-pence-will-pardon-him

I think he has to, if he is smart. What do you think?
Pardon him for what? Being Donald Trump?
Yep, for being Donald Trump. For federal charges of bank fraud, money laundering, RICO act violations etc.
Do you ever wonder if maybe you're the lefty analogue of the crazy old dude watching Hannity on TV getting high on rage and kooky conspiracies?
Except I'm not a lefty. I'm just not a Trumpet. We know he has been under investigation by the Southern District, with further action in abeyance until he leaves office.
OsoCoreyell
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TexasScientist said:

OsoCoreyell said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

TexasScientist said:

Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525845-prediction-trump-will-resign-pence-will-pardon-him

I think he has to, if he is smart. What do you think?
Pardon him for what? Being Donald Trump?
Yep, for being Donald Trump. For federal charges of bank fraud, money laundering, RICO act violations etc.
Do you ever wonder if maybe you're the lefty analogue of the crazy old dude watching Hannity on TV getting high on rage and kooky conspiracies?
Except I'm not a lefty. I'm just not a Trumpet. We know he has been under investigation by the Southern District, with further action in abeyance until he leaves office.
Right. Keep telling yourself that. Quack...its a duck.
TexasScientist
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Canada2017 said:

TexasScientist said:

Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525845-prediction-trump-will-resign-pence-will-pardon-him

I think he has to, if he is smart. What do you think?
I think you lost your objectivity years ago .

Trump is not resigning nor ever going to jail.

For the same reasons Bill Clinton and Barrack Hussein Obama aren't .
They don't or didn't have the exposure he has for his business practices. There was a reason Nixon was pardoned, because there was a high probability he would be prosecuted. I think you will see charges brought forward, at least by the New York AG where a pardon won't help him.
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OsoCoreyell said:

HuMcK said:

For starters, there's a Grand Jury in Manhattan looking at Trump for felont tax fraud right now, that's what the fight in SCOTUS over his tax returns was about. Insurance fraud is likely too. He was a masked co-conspirator in Michael Cohen's felony campaign finance guilty plea, designated as Individual-1 in the charging document. Obstruction of Justice during Mueller, lies in his written answers to Mueller. And that's all before any investigation into rampant rumors of money laundering, or the lawsuits that will drain him dry (a judge has already ordered him to submit DNA evidence that would verify a rape claim against him in a defamation case).

What's I'm saying is, even if you don't hear about it on Newsmax or OAN, Trump has signifigant legal exposures on several fronts, it's why he is so desperate to not lose the protections of the White House. Trump is what a prosecutor would call a "target-rich environment".
A Democrat party hack prosecutor with the backing of the NYT. Be. Very. Careful. Here. No one wants a political system where losers go to prison. That's how you really do end up with coups.
Except his transgressions are likely to be too great Letitia James to ignore.
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OsoCoreyell said:

TexasScientist said:

OsoCoreyell said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

TexasScientist said:

Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525845-prediction-trump-will-resign-pence-will-pardon-him

I think he has to, if he is smart. What do you think?
Pardon him for what? Being Donald Trump?
Yep, for being Donald Trump. For federal charges of bank fraud, money laundering, RICO act violations etc.
Do you ever wonder if maybe you're the lefty analogue of the crazy old dude watching Hannity on TV getting high on rage and kooky conspiracies?
Except I'm not a lefty. I'm just not a Trumpet. We know he has been under investigation by the Southern District, with further action in abeyance until he leaves office.
Right. Keep telling yourself that. Quack...its a duck.
Supporting or loyalty to Trump is not the definition of a conservative. Blind loyalty to Trump is cultish.
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HuMcK said:

Maybe next time don't sell your entire souls to such an unrepentant criminal and you won't have to worry about such things. Especially now, with Trump spreading conspiracies and deliberately undermining the foundations of our Republic to save his own skin, the only (narrow) path to reconciliation involves accountability for Trump.


Lol. Coming from Biden supporter.
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TexasScientist said:

Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525845-prediction-trump-will-resign-pence-will-pardon-him

I think he has to, if he is smart. What do you think?
What I think is more likely is that Trump pardons himself on the way out the door. When the ensuing ruckus gets too loud, Biden then pardons him to avoid a Constitutional crisis.
OsoCoreyell
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TexasScientist said:

OsoCoreyell said:

HuMcK said:

For starters, there's a Grand Jury in Manhattan looking at Trump for felont tax fraud right now, that's what the fight in SCOTUS over his tax returns was about. Insurance fraud is likely too. He was a masked co-conspirator in Michael Cohen's felony campaign finance guilty plea, designated as Individual-1 in the charging document. Obstruction of Justice during Mueller, lies in his written answers to Mueller. And that's all before any investigation into rampant rumors of money laundering, or the lawsuits that will drain him dry (a judge has already ordered him to submit DNA evidence that would verify a rape claim against him in a defamation case).

What's I'm saying is, even if you don't hear about it on Newsmax or OAN, Trump has signifigant legal exposures on several fronts, it's why he is so desperate to not lose the protections of the White House. Trump is what a prosecutor would call a "target-rich environment".
A Democrat party hack prosecutor with the backing of the NYT. Be. Very. Careful. Here. No one wants a political system where losers go to prison. That's how you really do end up with coups.
Except his transgressions are likely to be too great Letitia James to ignore.
God save us from Letitia James as the AG. Pretty low bar set by Holder, who was openly Barack's "wing man."
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TexasScientist said:

OsoCoreyell said:

TexasScientist said:

OsoCoreyell said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

TexasScientist said:

Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525845-prediction-trump-will-resign-pence-will-pardon-him

I think he has to, if he is smart. What do you think?
Pardon him for what? Being Donald Trump?
Yep, for being Donald Trump. For federal charges of bank fraud, money laundering, RICO act violations etc.
Do you ever wonder if maybe you're the lefty analogue of the crazy old dude watching Hannity on TV getting high on rage and kooky conspiracies?
Except I'm not a lefty. I'm just not a Trumpet. We know he has been under investigation by the Southern District, with further action in abeyance until he leaves office.
Right. Keep telling yourself that. Quack...its a duck.
Supporting or loyalty to Trump is not the definition of a conservative. Blind loyalty to Trump is cultish.
Don't confuse me with a loyal Trumpist. I don't like what he has done to the Republican Party at all. But the "anti-Trump" dopamine addicts are just as much of a cult as the Trumpists. The anti-Trumpers got their best shot with the ridiculous Russia stuff and wet the bed.
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BS on Trump. Keep wishing him the worst. The democrats are so butthurt that he is smarter than they are it's ridiculous. The swamp is so pathetic. Biden is a idiot. Quit watching cnn, msnbc, fox, abc , nbc, cbs. They are full of chit
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OsoCoreyell said:

TexasScientist said:

OsoCoreyell said:

TexasScientist said:

OsoCoreyell said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

TexasScientist said:

Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525845-prediction-trump-will-resign-pence-will-pardon-him

I think he has to, if he is smart. What do you think?
Pardon him for what? Being Donald Trump?
Yep, for being Donald Trump. For federal charges of bank fraud, money laundering, RICO act violations etc.
Do you ever wonder if maybe you're the lefty analogue of the crazy old dude watching Hannity on TV getting high on rage and kooky conspiracies?
Except I'm not a lefty. I'm just not a Trumpet. We know he has been under investigation by the Southern District, with further action in abeyance until he leaves office.
Right. Keep telling yourself that. Quack...its a duck.
Supporting or loyalty to Trump is not the definition of a conservative. Blind loyalty to Trump is cultish.
Don't confuse me with a loyal Trumpist. I don't like what he has done to the Republican Party at all. But the "anti-Trump" dopamine addicts are just as much of a cult as the Trumpists. The anti-Trumpers got their best shot with the ridiculous Russia stuff and wet the bed.
Then you should understand that I don't like what he has done to the Republican Party and the country. I simply cannot support him.
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BornAgain said:

BS on Trump. Keep wishing him the worst. The democrats are so butthurt that he is smarter than they are it's ridiculous. The swamp is so pathetic. Biden is a idiot. Quit watching cnn, msnbc, fox, abc , nbc, cbs. They are full of chit
So you think he'll take his chances on being indicted in the Southern District?
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HuMcK said:

For starters, there's a Grand Jury in Manhattan looking at Trump for felont tax fraud right now, that's what the fight in SCOTUS over his tax returns was about. Insurance fraud is likely too. He was a masked co-conspirator in Michael Cohen's felony campaign finance guilty plea, designated as Individual-1 in the charging document. Obstruction of Justice during Mueller, lies in his written answers to Mueller. And that's all before any investigation into rampant rumors of money laundering, or the lawsuits that will drain him dry (a judge has already ordered him to submit DNA evidence that would verify a rape claim against him in a defamation case).

What's I'm saying is, even if you don't hear about it on Newsmax or OAN, Trump has signifigant legal exposures on several fronts, it's why he is so desperate to not lose the protections of the White House. Trump is what a prosecutor would call a "target-rich environment".
I'm beginning to think your really Adam Schiff.
EatMoreSalmon
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TexasScientist said:

Prediction: Trump will resign, Pence will pardon him

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525845-prediction-trump-will-resign-pence-will-pardon-him

I think he has to, if he is smart. What do you think?
Garbage.
HuMcK
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No, I just pay attention.
CHP Bear
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HuMcK said:

No, I just pay attention.
O.K. Adam.
HuMcK
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Can't lie, the idea of an Attorney General Schiff intrigues me about as much as I bet it terrifies Trump.
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I say do it. But it's so completely tone deaf the Democratic Party may be the first ones to rein her in. It'd be a self fulfilling prophecy for Trump and his supporters. Remember his approval rating went up during the impeachment.
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OsoCoreyell said:

TexasScientist said:

OsoCoreyell said:

HuMcK said:

For starters, there's a Grand Jury in Manhattan looking at Trump for felont tax fraud right now, that's what the fight in SCOTUS over his tax returns was about. Insurance fraud is likely too. He was a masked co-conspirator in Michael Cohen's felony campaign finance guilty plea, designated as Individual-1 in the charging document. Obstruction of Justice during Mueller, lies in his written answers to Mueller. And that's all before any investigation into rampant rumors of money laundering, or the lawsuits that will drain him dry (a judge has already ordered him to submit DNA evidence that would verify a rape claim against him in a defamation case).

What's I'm saying is, even if you don't hear about it on Newsmax or OAN, Trump has signifigant legal exposures on several fronts, it's why he is so desperate to not lose the protections of the White House. Trump is what a prosecutor would call a "target-rich environment".
A Democrat party hack prosecutor with the backing of the NYT. Be. Very. Careful. Here. No one wants a political system where losers go to prison. That's how you really do end up with coups.
Except his transgressions are likely to be too great Letitia James to ignore.
God save us from Letitia James as the AG. Pretty low bar set by Holder, who was openly Barack's "wing man."

butt buddy
Be present in all things and thankful for all things.
PartyBear
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Fubar, Biden will not pardon Trump and even if he had thought about it. I'm sure Trump is burning that avenue as we speak despite Biden's good natured dare I say Reaganesque demeanor about what Trump is doing right now. If Trump's only pardon is from himself, the feds will proceed anyway and his pardon can be an issue for appeal and it won't stand. Unless Cuomo pardons him, a presidential pardon really doesn't mean a whole lot anyway.
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The Democratic House of Representative spent 3 years trying to impeach Trump and the best charges they cam up with is the Ukrainian Quid Pro Quo charge. Once Trump is out of there is little benefit in attempting to bring him down.
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You really think trump is in legal trouble ?? Your sources besides MSM and anyone that he has fired.
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HuMcK said:

Maybe next time don't sell your entire souls to such an unrepentant criminal and you won't have to worry about such things. Especially now, with Trump spreading conspiracies and deliberately undermining the foundations of our Republic to save his own skin, the only (narrow) path to reconciliation involves accountability for Trump.


There will never be reconciliation because it still isn't about Trump. Look in your mirror. It's about you and people like you whose value systems are so antithetical to a great many Americans. What cannot be reconciled will not be.
 
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