Shippou's wet dream about to become reality...muddybrazos said:
JUST IN: The Biden administration is working to develop a "vaccine passport" that will allow Americans to travel and enter businesses that require proof of vaccination -WaPo
And so it begins.
muddybrazos said:
JUST IN: The Biden administration is working to develop a "vaccine passport" that will allow Americans to travel and enter businesses that require proof of vaccination -WaPo
And so it begins.
You must be some type of work for my name to slip from your mouth on a thread I haven't visited in over a month. Odd, you also think somehow that I think vaccine passports are a "wet dream" and not something to further divide people into groups. Very odd that this doesn't align with any point of view I've ever expressed but you know me so well random guy on the internet, thank you for interpreting my thoughts for myself.NeuroticBear said:Shippou's wet dream about to become reality...muddybrazos said:
JUST IN: The Biden administration is working to develop a "vaccine passport" that will allow Americans to travel and enter businesses that require proof of vaccination -WaPo
And so it begins.
That's my man, RW with always great 80s !robby44 said:
total excess deaths = 85K. a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. 15% of 85k is 11,900.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. 15% of 85k is 11,900.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
Funny that you noticed "a thread you haven't visited in over a month" when I didn't even quote you.Shippou said:You must be some type of work for my name to slip from your mouth on a thread I haven't visited in over a month. Odd, you also think somehow that I think vaccine passports are a "wet dream" and not something to further divide people into groups. Very odd that this doesn't align with any point of view I've ever expressed but you know me so well random guy on the internet, thank you for interpreting my thoughts for myself.NeuroticBear said:Shippou's wet dream about to become reality...muddybrazos said:
JUST IN: The Biden administration is working to develop a "vaccine passport" that will allow Americans to travel and enter businesses that require proof of vaccination -WaPo
And so it begins.
NeuroticBear said:Funny that you noticed "a thread you haven't visited in over a month" when I didn't even quote you.Shippou said:You must be some type of work for my name to slip from your mouth on a thread I haven't visited in over a month. Odd, you also think somehow that I think vaccine passports are a "wet dream" and not something to further divide people into groups. Very odd that this doesn't align with any point of view I've ever expressed but you know me so well random guy on the internet, thank you for interpreting my thoughts for myself.NeuroticBear said:Shippou's wet dream about to become reality...muddybrazos said:
JUST IN: The Biden administration is working to develop a "vaccine passport" that will allow Americans to travel and enter businesses that require proof of vaccination -WaPo
And so it begins.
Lefty's are so easy to troll, it's almost not even fun anymore.
Ok. multiply it times five. Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. 15% of 85k is 11,900.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
Then start a thread with a quote that says something about such requirements instead of triggering yourself over shadows.Doc Holliday said:
I will have a major problem if we're required to wear them even if we aren't sick.
You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. multiply it times five. Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. 15% of 85k is 11,900.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
Uh, that book was cancelled...keep up!Robert Wilson said:
Finally, we can more easily tell the star bellied sneeches from the plain bellied sneeches.
They must've cancelled it because it was hitting too close to home...OsoCoreyell said:Uh, that book was cancelled...keep up!Robert Wilson said:
Finally, we can more easily tell the star bellied sneeches from the plain bellied sneeches.
They cancelled it because Joe couldn't decide which sneech he was supposed to like and which he was supposed to hate.Robert Wilson said:They must've cancelled it because it was hitting too close to home...OsoCoreyell said:Uh, that book was cancelled...keep up!Robert Wilson said:
Finally, we can more easily tell the star bellied sneeches from the plain bellied sneeches.
so about twice the number of a bad flu year.Sam Lowry said:You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. multiply it times five. Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. 15% of 85k is 11,900.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
40K is usually considered a bad flu year, so about nine times that number in excess deaths over and above the average (or almost 14 times in terms of total deaths, which is a more apples-to-apples comparison).whiterock said:so about twice the number of a bad flu year.Sam Lowry said:You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. multiply it times five. Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. 15% of 85k is 11,900.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
is that worth what we've been thru in terms of economic and human costs in other areas?
Bless your heart.Shippou said:NeuroticBear said:Funny that you noticed "a thread you haven't visited in over a month" when I didn't even quote you.Shippou said:You must be some type of work for my name to slip from your mouth on a thread I haven't visited in over a month. Odd, you also think somehow that I think vaccine passports are a "wet dream" and not something to further divide people into groups. Very odd that this doesn't align with any point of view I've ever expressed but you know me so well random guy on the internet, thank you for interpreting my thoughts for myself.NeuroticBear said:Shippou's wet dream about to become reality...muddybrazos said:
JUST IN: The Biden administration is working to develop a "vaccine passport" that will allow Americans to travel and enter businesses that require proof of vaccination -WaPo
And so it begins.
Lefty's are so easy to troll, it's almost not even fun anymore.
You're not special. Thread was at the top of the page, clicked on it to see what's new, lo and behold my name comes slipping out your mouth. You're weird pal.
Sam Lowry said:40K is usually considered a bad flu year, so about nine times that number in excess deaths over and above the average (or almost 14 times in terms of total deaths, which is a more apples-to-apples comparison).whiterock said:so about twice the number of a bad flu year.Sam Lowry said:You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. multiply it times five. Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. 15% of 85k is 11,900.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
is that worth what we've been thru in terms of economic and human costs in other areas?
Deaths or infections?Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:40K is usually considered a bad flu year, so about nine times that number in excess deaths over and above the average (or almost 14 times in terms of total deaths, which is a more apples-to-apples comparison).whiterock said:so about twice the number of a bad flu year.Sam Lowry said:You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. multiply it times five. Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. 15% of 85k is 11,900.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
is that worth what we've been thru in terms of economic and human costs in other areas?
Counts are increasing again in Northern Colorado.
Very concerning .
With all the vaccinations underway thought we would have seen a dramatic drop .
ATL Bear said:Deaths or infections?Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:40K is usually considered a bad flu year, so about nine times that number in excess deaths over and above the average (or almost 14 times in terms of total deaths, which is a more apples-to-apples comparison).whiterock said:so about twice the number of a bad flu year.Sam Lowry said:You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. multiply it times five. Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. 15% of 85k is 11,900.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
is that worth what we've been thru in terms of economic and human costs in other areas?
Counts are increasing again in Northern Colorado.
Very concerning .
With all the vaccinations underway thought we would have seen a dramatic drop .
Actually the number could have been much higher if we did not follow some of the prevention protocols.whiterock said:so about twice the number of a bad flu year.Sam Lowry said:You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. multiply it times five. Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. 15% of 85k is 11,900.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
is that worth what we've been thru in terms of economic and human costs in other areas?
Vaccine was not developed to stop infection, only to stop severe outcomes of infections. It does the latter very well thus far. That's the oddity of calling this a vaccine.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:Deaths or infections?Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:40K is usually considered a bad flu year, so about nine times that number in excess deaths over and above the average (or almost 14 times in terms of total deaths, which is a more apples-to-apples comparison).whiterock said:so about twice the number of a bad flu year.Sam Lowry said:You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. multiply it times five. Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. 15% of 85k is 11,900.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
is that worth what we've been thru in terms of economic and human costs in other areas?
Counts are increasing again in Northern Colorado.
Very concerning .
With all the vaccinations underway thought we would have seen a dramatic drop .
Infections
"Under real-world conditions, mRNA vaccine effectiveness of full immunization (≥14 days after second dose) was 90% against SARS-CoV-2 infections regardless of symptom status."ATL Bear said:Vaccine was not developed to stop infection, only to stop severe outcomes of infections. It does the latter very well thus far. %A0That's the oddity of calling this a vaccine. %A0Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:Deaths or infections?Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:40K is usually considered a bad flu year, so about nine times that number in excess deaths over and above the average (or almost 14 times in terms of total deaths, which is a more apples-to-apples comparison).whiterock said:so about twice the number of a bad flu year. %A0Sam Lowry said:You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. %A0 multiply it times five. %A0 %A0Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. %A0 %A0a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. %A0 %A015% of 85k is 11,900. %A0RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. %A0Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? %A0You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
is that worth what we've been thru in terms of economic and human costs in other areas?
Counts are increasing again in Northern Colorado.
Very concerning . %A0
With all the vaccinations underway thought %A0we would have seen a dramatic drop .
Infections
Take the time to watch and listen.Sam Lowry said:"Under real-world conditions, mRNA vaccine effectiveness of full immunization (≥14 days after second dose) was 90% against SARS-CoV-2 infections regardless of symptom status."ATL Bear said:Vaccine was not developed to stop infection, only to stop severe outcomes of infections. It does the latter very well thus far. %A0That's the oddity of calling this a vaccine. %A0Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:Deaths or infections?Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:40K is usually considered a bad flu year, so about nine times that number in excess deaths over and above the average (or almost 14 times in terms of total deaths, which is a more apples-to-apples comparison).whiterock said:so about twice the number of a bad flu year. %A0Sam Lowry said:You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. %A0 multiply it times five. %A0 %A0Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. %A0 %A0a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. %A0 %A015% of 85k is 11,900. %A0RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. %A0Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? %A0You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
is that worth what we've been thru in terms of economic and human costs in other areas?
Counts are increasing again in Northern Colorado.
Very concerning . %A0
With all the vaccinations underway thought %A0we would have seen a dramatic drop .
Infections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine
FYI, i also found it on YouTube:ATL Bear said:Take the time to watch and listen.Sam Lowry said:"Under real-world conditions, mRNA vaccine effectiveness of full immunization (≥14 days after second dose) was 90% against SARS-CoV-2 infections regardless of symptom status."ATL Bear said:Vaccine was not developed to stop infection, only to stop severe outcomes of infections. It does the latter very well thus far. %A0That's the oddity of calling this a vaccine. %A0Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:Deaths or infections?Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:40K is usually considered a bad flu year, so about nine times that number in excess deaths over and above the average (or almost 14 times in terms of total deaths, which is a more apples-to-apples comparison).whiterock said:so about twice the number of a bad flu year. %A0Sam Lowry said:You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. %A0 multiply it times five. %A0 %A0Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. %A0 %A0a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. %A0 %A015% of 85k is 11,900. %A0RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. %A0Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? %A0You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
is that worth what we've been thru in terms of economic and human costs in other areas?
Counts are increasing again in Northern Colorado.
Very concerning . %A0
With all the vaccinations underway thought %A0we would have seen a dramatic drop .
Infections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine
https://www.*****ute.com/video/hfzL5gUeQvxr/
EDIT: b i t c h u t e is the starred part.
Thanks for the link. He is wrong about vaccines always containing organisms. Genetically engineered antigens have been developed since the 1990s.ATL Bear said:Take the time to watch and listen.Sam Lowry said:"Under real-world conditions, mRNA vaccine effectiveness of full immunization (≥14 days after second dose) was 90% against SARS-CoV-2 infections regardless of symptom status."ATL Bear said:Vaccine was not developed to stop infection, only to stop severe outcomes of infections. It does the latter very well thus far. %A0That's the oddity of calling this a vaccine. %A0Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:Deaths or infections?Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:40K is usually considered a bad flu year, so about nine times that number in excess deaths over and above the average (or almost 14 times in terms of total deaths, which is a more apples-to-apples comparison).whiterock said:so about twice the number of a bad flu year. %A0Sam Lowry said:You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. %A0 multiply it times five. %A0 %A0Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. %A0 %A0a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. %A0 %A015% of 85k is 11,900. %A0RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. %A0Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? %A0You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
is that worth what we've been thru in terms of economic and human costs in other areas?
Counts are increasing again in Northern Colorado.
Very concerning . %A0
With all the vaccinations underway thought %A0we would have seen a dramatic drop .
Infections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine
https://www.*****ute.com/video/hfzL5gUeQvxr/
EDIT: b i t c h u t e is the starred part.
Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
ATL Bear said:Vaccine was not developed to stop infection, only to stop severe outcomes of infections. It does the latter very well thus far. That's the oddity of calling this a vaccine.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:Deaths or infections?Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:40K is usually considered a bad flu year, so about nine times that number in excess deaths over and above the average (or almost 14 times in terms of total deaths, which is a more apples-to-apples comparison).whiterock said:so about twice the number of a bad flu year.Sam Lowry said:You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. multiply it times five. Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. 15% of 85k is 11,900.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
is that worth what we've been thru in terms of economic and human costs in other areas?
Counts are increasing again in Northern Colorado.
Very concerning .
With all the vaccinations underway thought we would have seen a dramatic drop .
Infections
Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:Vaccine was not developed to stop infection, only to stop severe outcomes of infections. It does the latter very well thus far. That's the oddity of calling this a vaccine.Canada2017 said:ATL Bear said:Deaths or infections?Canada2017 said:Sam Lowry said:40K is usually considered a bad flu year, so about nine times that number in excess deaths over and above the average (or almost 14 times in terms of total deaths, which is a more apples-to-apples comparison).whiterock said:so about twice the number of a bad flu year.Sam Lowry said:You wouldn't take 14% of 85K. 85K represents the actual 14% increase above the five-year average, so that would be the basis of your cost-benefit analysis. The equivalent number in the US is about 360K.whiterock said:Ok. multiply it times five. Doesn't the same question apply?Sam Lowry said:Those are UK stats.whiterock said:total excess deaths = 85K. a 14% increase over the 2015-1029 average. 15% of 85k is 11,900.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Don't forget the bright side. Covid has greatly reduced deaths attributed to Heart Disease, Diabetes, and the Flu.tommie said:Carlos Safety said:The issue of convenience does not matter. No one who is well should have any government functionary tell them what to wear or be subject to house arrest or have their private property rights infringed on. The abuse of power by the government has been sickening. The only thing more sickening is how we tolerated it.Mothra said:Are you serious Clark? You don't think the way we have been doing school, business and restaurants the last year has been an inconvenience?Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
Wow.
About 500,000 of us didn't.
So the net effect of CV pandemic and our mitigation efforts......about 12k extra deaths.
Whether that is a win or a loss is something that can be formed that round or pounded flat.
Have fun.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693
is that worth what we've been thru in terms of economic and human costs in other areas?
Counts are increasing again in Northern Colorado.
Very concerning .
With all the vaccinations underway thought we would have seen a dramatic drop .
Infections
With these vaccines ......supposedly the ability to transmit the illness to others is reduced .
It's been pretty hellish on people born with hearing losses. Reached an age where I could navigate this socially with few problems, but this has been a big setback that affects every social interaction. Many have been understanding and pull off their mask when I tell them what is going on, but started seeing again some who are exasperated or upset about something people have no control over.Shippou said:Who cares? Is it that much of an inconvenience?Doc Holliday said:
Will masks become the 'new normal' even after the pandemic has passed? Some Americans say soQuote:
"I think we do need a new culture of masks, at least any time not feeling well, and I think masks are in and handshakes out for the indefinite future," said Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the C.D.C. during the Obama Administration and the president of global health initiative Resolve to Save Lives.
