Why Do So Many Resist, Disrespect, Flee & Fight The Police?

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Canon said:

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Thee University said:

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What is the black population of each of those countries?

US 46M
Germany 1M
Norway/Finland <1M
So... it's black people's fault that we require so little expertise and training in our police forces?
We don't require so little training. The average police officer training is 840 hours or 21 weeks.

Officers are up against criminals that have spent nearly a lifetime robbing, looting, stealing, beating, intimidating, killing, maiming, misleading, lying, shooting, knifing, ganging up on and the list goes on and on and on. Picture George Floyd, your hero. He started thug life training early and it killed him.



We are way too soft on criminals......black, brown, white, red, yellow and tan. The police officers are not trained enough for modern day criminals. It's impossible. Thug life is constant once they choose that path and it knocks out 21 weeks in no time.

We need to treat thug life with a band of Atilla the Hun devotees or Comanche Indians. Police officers are too soft for thugs.


Which part of the Constitution do you want to burn first?



Let's just burn violent thugs instead.
Unlimited open borders and unlimited drugs of any kind for all. What could possibly go wrong? LOL!!!

You'll live a braver life if you stop fearing straw men.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Canon said:

quash said:

Thee University said:

BrooksBearLives said:

GShack said:

jupiter said:




What is the black population of each of those countries?

US 46M
Germany 1M
Norway/Finland <1M
So... it's black people's fault that we require so little expertise and training in our police forces?
We don't require so little training. The average police officer training is 840 hours or 21 weeks.

Officers are up against criminals that have spent nearly a lifetime robbing, looting, stealing, beating, intimidating, killing, maiming, misleading, lying, shooting, knifing, ganging up on and the list goes on and on and on. Picture George Floyd, your hero. He started thug life training early and it killed him.



We are way too soft on criminals......black, brown, white, red, yellow and tan. The police officers are not trained enough for modern day criminals. It's impossible. Thug life is constant once they choose that path and it knocks out 21 weeks in no time.

We need to treat thug life with a band of Atilla the Hun devotees or Comanche Indians. Police officers are too soft for thugs.


Which part of the Constitution do you want to burn first?



Let's just burn violent thugs instead.
Unlimited open borders and unlimited drugs of any kind for all. What could possibly go wrong? LOL!!!

You'll live a braver life if you stop fearing straw men.
Hopefully you and Jo can cut that Fentanyl and make it a little bit safer. My straw man would feel much safer!
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GShack said:

jupiter said:




What is the black population of each of those countries?

US 46M
Germany 1M
Norway/Finland <1M

Holy ****, there it is, blatant racism, and 4 others starred it lol.
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Porteroso said:

GShack said:

jupiter said:




What is the black population of each of those countries?

US 46M
Germany 1M
Norway/Finland <1M

Holy ****, there it is, blatant racism, and 4 others starred it lol.


Is there a single racial/ethnic group in the US that commits more violent crime per capita than any other?

If so, is the disparity statistically significant?

What are the racial/ethnic demographics of the most violent cities in the US?

If data from the single most violent racial/ethnic demographic was removed from US statistics, how far would US violent crime rates fall?

What percentage of the population is the single most violent racial/ethnic demographic?

Is there a strong correlation with the the population of the same racial/ethnic demographic in the top 10 most violent countries on earth?



Answer these and tell us all how statistical realities and citing same, is racist.
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Porteroso? Any answers?
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Canon said:

Porteroso? Any answers?

It is never racist to acknowledge reality, but the post I quoted goes beyond statistics, and stereotypes the black population of the world into a single group of criminals based upon a statistic that only exists in the US.

If I really need to explain how the black population of Finland is vastly different, culturally, and statistically, than black Americans, we won't even be able to have a discussion, but I imagine most people accept that just because a black person acts one way, it doesn't mean all black people must act that way.

And likewise, just because we may talk about a statistic of black Americans, doesn't mean we should assume black people worldwide are that way.

To do so is to think that that statistic is due to color of skin, or a behavior, or something a black person is born with. That is inherently racist in the same vein of the 3rd Reich's attitude towards Jews, or America's treatment of black Americans up until 1969.
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Jack Bauer said:

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They told him 29 times to exit the vehicle. He refused. I suppose they could have tried to coax him out with a puppy. Or, alternatively, he could have complied with lawful orders after perhaps the 23rd time he was told?
they also told him to put his hands out the window and get out while he was still seatbelted in... they absolutely suck at communication and conflict resolution. The driver did not comply with confusing instructions and was calm during most of the interaction, even after being pepper sprayed.


They told him 8 times to put his hands out of the window or words to that effect. The driver didn't refuse to comply because he thought the instructions were confusing. He tried to take control of the situation and failed. When he realized he failed, he claimed to be scared or uncomfortable. Had he done as he was told and, if buckled, asked to remove his seatbelt, and then complied, no pepper spray.

This is not a difficult thing to do. Most people (including black people) are never in their entire lives placed under arrest or physically detained or pepper sprayed or tasered or shot by police. Most people (including black people) avoid these fates because most people (including black people) comply with lawful orders. Those who don't comply and resist, have a different outcome. The Hispanic cop was a jerk. So what? Comply and then file a complaint.

This driver was 100% in the wrong. The Hispanic cop was 100% a jerk. There is a 100% chance this would have ended with no pepper spray if the driver had simply complied with the jerk's lawful order.


Easier said than done when you got two guns pointed at your face along with a bunch if screaming and yelling of confusing orders lol.

If he leans over for the belt buckle, they'll get even more anxious. The younger cop knew the **** was wrong lol, come on man.


It's difficult to comply with guns pointed at you? It's easier to argue with men holding guns pointed at you and giving you lawful orders? Rethink that.

The young cop pleaded with him to just comply. He still refused. He brought everything on himself. Never mind he drove on for quite some time before complying with instructions to pull over. The guy could literally find no instruction he found worthy of following.


Nobody said they weren't lawful orders lol. Rethink that.

We said they were confusing orders! Especially all while being yelled at with guns pointed at you.

The younger cop obviously looked taken back by the situation and felt bad, but since it was his partner he obviously has to have his back


Shouting for him to get out of the car 29 times is confusing? How many times must the same order be shouted at you before you understand? 30? 31? Also, no one said you said they weren't lawful orders. Lawful orders described the orders given. Context is important and largely ignored in discussions on this sort of topic.

The young cop was probably exasperated with the jerk cop and with the non-compliant masochist behind the wheel. Cops have one thing to use in execution of their jobs...police power. If you refuse to comply with the verbal version of it, you will inevitably meet the physical version of it. Unless of course you are a BLM rioter or Antifa.


What are you shouting and pointing guns for if his hands are out the window AS THE ASKED FOR lol. Any sudden move that they feel is suspicious, they shoot and save their own asses by saying "We didnt know if he was reaching for something".

It made him suspicious because he wanted to pull into a "well lit area"? Which led immediately to guns and screaming? Can't concentrate under that, especially for missing "tags", that were hanging in the window

How are you not getting this when you just stated that the cop was a 100% jerk?

How's he a jerk if he was also right?

I understand you're a blue lives matter till the death of you lol, but my goodness.


1. The first 8 shouts were to put his hands out. He eventually complied.
2. The remaining 29 shouts were to use those hands to open the car door (latch is right there on the outside of the door) to open that car door and exit.
3. If you are concerned about making sudden moves, don't make sudden moves. Ask permission and don't move until given permission.
4. His refusal to comply with lights and instructions to pull over and instead continue to drive on until he decided to pull over is one thing that turned it into a felony stop. This yielded the guns.
5. His tags in his blacked out windows were not visible while driving. This was the source of his initial contact.
6. A cop can be 100% a jerk and still be 100% correct. Many pull off this remarkable feat on a daily basis. You don't get to fail to comply with a lawful order just because the cop who gave it is a jerk.

These are not challenging concepts. Taken together, these place the driver squarely in the wrong. If you have further questions with obvious and easy answers you choose to ignore, please reference the above. Regards.


1. Why are the shouting and being so aggressive over a traffic stop.

2. Why are yoy shouting telling the guy to open his door for? He's confused at that point to what could he have possibly done to warrant the aggression...aaaagain.

3. Did he not tell them he was scared and remained with his hands out the window?

4. Turned into a felony because he drove to a well lit area? Ooook lol, let's upgrade the charges for no reason.

5. Sooo you're telling me the camera on their body cam that caught the tags hanging, weren't visible enough for them to see them? Sheeeesh

6. How do you comply with a jerk cop constantly yelling and pointing a gun at you, while giving confusing instructions lol.

+1 for the cop using pepper spray and not the gun tho
The next time a cop comes up behind you and turns his sirens, try driving nearly 2 miles before stopping and see what happens. This raises all kinds of suspicions.
It's pretty amazing how people like you can go on and on and on about your civil rights and being innocent until proven guilty riiiiiight up until the moment someone wants to drive to a well lit area with witnesses before pulling over.

You were willing to give Trump a whole lot of the benefit of the doubt, despite the fact he was clearly breaking the law. Thank God he didn't drive a car 2 miles.
 
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