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They told him 29 times to exit the vehicle. He refused. I suppose they could have tried to coax him out with a puppy. Or, alternatively, he could have complied with lawful orders after perhaps the 23rd time he was told?

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they also told him to put his hands out the window and get out while he was still seatbelted in... they absolutely suck at communication and conflict resolution. The driver did not comply with confusing instructions and was calm during most of the interaction, even after being pepper sprayed.

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They told him 8 times to put his hands out of the window or words to that effect. The driver didn't refuse to comply because he thought the instructions were confusing. He tried to take control of the situation and failed. When he realized he failed, he claimed to be scared or uncomfortable. Had he done as he was told and, if buckled, asked to remove his seatbelt, and then complied, no pepper spray.

This is not a difficult thing to do. Most people (including black people) are never in their entire lives placed under arrest or physically detained or pepper sprayed or tasered or shot by police. Most people (including black people) avoid these fates because most people (including black people) comply with lawful orders. Those who don't comply and resist, have a different outcome. The Hispanic cop was a jerk. So what? Comply and then file a complaint.

This driver was 100% in the wrong. The Hispanic cop was 100% a jerk. There is a 100% chance this would have ended with no pepper spray if the driver had simply complied with the jerk's lawful order.

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Easier said than done when you got two guns pointed at your face along with a bunch if screaming and yelling of confusing orders lol.

If he leans over for the belt buckle, they'll get even more anxious. The younger cop knew the **** was wrong lol, come on man.

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It's difficult to comply with guns pointed at you? It's easier to argue with men holding guns pointed at you and giving you lawful orders? Rethink that.

The young cop pleaded with him to just comply. He still refused. He brought everything on himself. Never mind he drove on for quite some time before complying with instructions to pull over. The guy could literally find no instruction he found worthy of following.

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Nobody said they weren't lawful orders lol. Rethink that.

We said they were confusing orders! Especially all while being yelled at with guns pointed at you.

The younger cop obviously looked taken back by the situation and felt bad, but since it was his partner he obviously has to have his back

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Shouting for him to get out of the car 29 times is confusing? How many times must the same order be shouted at you before you understand? 30? 31? Also, no one said you said they weren't lawful orders. Lawful orders described the orders given. Context is important and largely ignored in discussions on this sort of topic.

The young cop was probably exasperated with the jerk cop and with the non-compliant masochist behind the wheel. Cops have one thing to use in execution of their jobs...police power. If you refuse to comply with the verbal version of it, you will inevitably meet the physical version of it. Unless of course you are a BLM rioter or Antifa.

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What are you shouting and pointing guns for if his hands are out the window AS THE ASKED FOR lol. Any sudden move that they feel is suspicious, they shoot and save their own asses by saying "We didnt know if he was reaching for something".

It made him suspicious because he wanted to pull into a "well lit area"? Which led immediately to guns and screaming? Can't concentrate under that, especially for missing "tags", that were hanging in the window

How are you not getting this when you just stated that the cop was a 100% jerk?

How's he a jerk if he was also right?

I understand you're a blue lives matter till the death of you lol, but my goodness.

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1. The first 8 shouts were to put his hands out. He eventually complied.
2. The remaining 29 shouts were to use those hands to open the car door (latch is right there on the outside of the door) to open that car door and exit.
3. If you are concerned about making sudden moves, don't make sudden moves. Ask permission and don't move until given permission.
4. His refusal to comply with lights and instructions to pull over and instead continue to drive on until he decided to pull over is one thing that turned it into a felony stop. This yielded the guns.
5. His tags in his blacked out windows were not visible while driving. This was the source of his initial contact.
6. A cop can be 100% a jerk and still be 100% correct. Many pull off this remarkable feat on a daily basis. You don't get to fail to comply with a lawful order just because the cop who gave it is a jerk.

These are not challenging concepts. Taken together, these place the driver squarely in the wrong. If you have further questions with obvious and easy answers you choose to ignore, please reference the above. Regards.

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1. Why are the shouting and being so aggressive over a traffic stop.

2. Why are yoy shouting telling the guy to open his door for? He's confused at that point to what could he have possibly done to warrant the aggression...aaaagain.

3. Did he not tell them he was scared and remained with his hands out the window?

4. Turned into a felony because he drove to a well lit area? Ooook lol, let's upgrade the charges for no reason.

5. Sooo you're telling me the camera on their body cam that caught the tags hanging, weren't visible enough for them to see them? Sheeeesh

6. How do you comply with a jerk cop constantly yelling and pointing a gun at you, while giving confusing instructions lol.

+1 for the cop using pepper spray and not the gun tho

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The next time a cop comes up behind you and turns his sirens, try driving nearly 2 miles before stopping and see what happens. This raises all kinds of suspicions.

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Given the rhetoric of the officer and the outcome of the situation, it sounds like driving 2 miles to a well lit public area was the right thing to do.

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Or, it made what could have just been a minor unpleasant inconvenience into something a whole lot worse.

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OR could have called 911 to tell them why you were driving 2 miles to a well lit area and you weren't trying to hide anything and would comply when you got there.

Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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They told him 29 times to exit the vehicle. He refused. I suppose they could have tried to coax him out with a puppy. Or, alternatively, he could have complied with lawful orders after perhaps the 23rd time he was told?

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they also told him to put his hands out the window and get out while he was still seatbelted in... they absolutely suck at communication and conflict resolution. The driver did not comply with confusing instructions and was calm during most of the interaction, even after being pepper sprayed.

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They told him 8 times to put his hands out of the window or words to that effect. The driver didn't refuse to comply because he thought the instructions were confusing. He tried to take control of the situation and failed. When he realized he failed, he claimed to be scared or uncomfortable. Had he done as he was told and, if buckled, asked to remove his seatbelt, and then complied, no pepper spray.

This is not a difficult thing to do. Most people (including black people) are never in their entire lives placed under arrest or physically detained or pepper sprayed or tasered or shot by police. Most people (including black people) avoid these fates because most people (including black people) comply with lawful orders. Those who don't comply and resist, have a different outcome. The Hispanic cop was a jerk. So what? Comply and then file a complaint.

This driver was 100% in the wrong. The Hispanic cop was 100% a jerk. There is a 100% chance this would have ended with no pepper spray if the driver had simply complied with the jerk's lawful order.

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Easier said than done when you got two guns pointed at your face along with a bunch if screaming and yelling of confusing orders lol.

If he leans over for the belt buckle, they'll get even more anxious. The younger cop knew the **** was wrong lol, come on man.

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It's difficult to comply with guns pointed at you? It's easier to argue with men holding guns pointed at you and giving you lawful orders? Rethink that.

The young cop pleaded with him to just comply. He still refused. He brought everything on himself. Never mind he drove on for quite some time before complying with instructions to pull over. The guy could literally find no instruction he found worthy of following.

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Citizens are supposed to think rationally while a gun is pointed at them when they have posed no threat.

Trained cops get to react violently to having their shouts ignored and bear no consequences.

It is waaaaay past time to get rid of qualified immunity.

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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You mean like the unarmed one who got shot in the capitol and the cop is not going to be charged? Yea, she should have complied, and she was stupid for not doing so. I understand you are implying here that she should have been killed because she was white, and that black people should be allowed to do the same thing (actually worse, since the publicized cases involve physical violence being initiated by the suspect) and not only not get shot, but be allowed to walk away from the scene, since as some of you have openly stated on here before the cops could always find a combative black suspect later and ask permission to arrest him. I say black suspect, because I have not seen any one on this forum advocate the same thing for combative suspects of other races.

Interestingly, that is what happened to Daunte. He was walking around free since December on a felony warrant for sticking a gun in a lady's face because local authorities didn't want to bother with administering justice. Which makes his resisting arrest completely stupid. All he had to do was let them arrest him, be freed by a judge, and then walk free again for who knows how long while pursuing his criminal career with the blessing the of the Minnesota justice system. If the justice system had actually done its job the first time he was succesfully arrested on a felony, he probably would be alive today. But he was given a free pass for some reason.

I think that cop in DC should be charged just like the one in the Daunte case because I don't make racist distinctions based on skin color for the outcomes of encounters with cops, but I won't be rioting over it. So burn down a couple of buildings for me while you're out rioting over the latest idiot with a felony warrant for armed robbery/assault who stops to get out and fight with a group of cops because he is "scared."

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They told him 29 times to exit the vehicle. He refused. I suppose they could have tried to coax him out with a puppy. Or, alternatively, he could have complied with lawful orders after perhaps the 23rd time he was told?

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they also told him to put his hands out the window and get out while he was still seatbelted in... they absolutely suck at communication and conflict resolution. The driver did not comply with confusing instructions and was calm during most of the interaction, even after being pepper sprayed.

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They told him 8 times to put his hands out of the window or words to that effect. The driver didn't refuse to comply because he thought the instructions were confusing. He tried to take control of the situation and failed. When he realized he failed, he claimed to be scared or uncomfortable. Had he done as he was told and, if buckled, asked to remove his seatbelt, and then complied, no pepper spray.

This is not a difficult thing to do. Most people (including black people) are never in their entire lives placed under arrest or physically detained or pepper sprayed or tasered or shot by police. Most people (including black people) avoid these fates because most people (including black people) comply with lawful orders. Those who don't comply and resist, have a different outcome. The Hispanic cop was a jerk. So what? Comply and then file a complaint.

This driver was 100% in the wrong. The Hispanic cop was 100% a jerk. There is a 100% chance this would have ended with no pepper spray if the driver had simply complied with the jerk's lawful order.

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Easier said than done when you got two guns pointed at your face along with a bunch if screaming and yelling of confusing orders lol.

If he leans over for the belt buckle, they'll get even more anxious. The younger cop knew the **** was wrong lol, come on man.

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It's difficult to comply with guns pointed at you? It's easier to argue with men holding guns pointed at you and giving you lawful orders? Rethink that.

The young cop pleaded with him to just comply. He still refused. He brought everything on himself. Never mind he drove on for quite some time before complying with instructions to pull over. The guy could literally find no instruction he found worthy of following.

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Nobody said they weren't lawful orders lol. Rethink that.

We said they were confusing orders! Especially all while being yelled at with guns pointed at you.

The younger cop obviously looked taken back by the situation and felt bad, but since it was his partner he obviously has to have his back

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Shouting for him to get out of the car 29 times is confusing? How many times must the same order be shouted at you before you understand? 30? 31? Also, no one said you said they weren't lawful orders. Lawful orders described the orders given. Context is important and largely ignored in discussions on this sort of topic.

The young cop was probably exasperated with the jerk cop and with the non-compliant masochist behind the wheel. Cops have one thing to use in execution of their jobs...police power. If you refuse to comply with the verbal version of it, you will inevitably meet the physical version of it. Unless of course you are a BLM rioter or Antifa.

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What are you shouting and pointing guns for if his hands are out the window AS THE ASKED FOR lol. Any sudden move that they feel is suspicious, they shoot and save their own asses by saying "We didnt know if he was reaching for something".

It made him suspicious because he wanted to pull into a "well lit area"? Which led immediately to guns and screaming? Can't concentrate under that, especially for missing "tags", that were hanging in the window

How are you not getting this when you just stated that the cop was a 100% jerk?

How's he a jerk if he was also right?

I understand you're a blue lives matter till the death of you lol, but my goodness.

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1. The first 8 shouts were to put his hands out. He eventually complied.
2. The remaining 29 shouts were to use those hands to open the car door (latch is right there on the outside of the door) to open that car door and exit.
3. If you are concerned about making sudden moves, don't make sudden moves. Ask permission and don't move until given permission.
4. His refusal to comply with lights and instructions to pull over and instead continue to drive on until he decided to pull over is one thing that turned it into a felony stop. This yielded the guns.
5. His tags in his blacked out windows were not visible while driving. This was the source of his initial contact.
6. A cop can be 100% a jerk and still be 100% correct. Many pull off this remarkable feat on a daily basis. You don't get to fail to comply with a lawful order just because the cop who gave it is a jerk.

These are not challenging concepts. Taken together, these place the driver squarely in the wrong. If you have further questions with obvious and easy answers you choose to ignore, please reference the above. Regards.

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1. Why are the shouting and being so aggressive over a traffic stop.

2. Why are yoy shouting telling the guy to open his door for? He's confused at that point to what could he have possibly done to warrant the aggression...aaaagain.

3. Did he not tell them he was scared and remained with his hands out the window?

4. Turned into a felony because he drove to a well lit area? Ooook lol, let's upgrade the charges for no reason.

5. Sooo you're telling me the camera on their body cam that caught the tags hanging, weren't visible enough for them to see them? Sheeeesh

6. How do you comply with a jerk cop constantly yelling and pointing a gun at you, while giving confusing instructions lol.

+1 for the cop using pepper spray and not the gun tho

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The next time a cop comes up behind you and turns his sirens, try driving nearly 2 miles before stopping and see what happens. This raises all kinds of suspicions.

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Given the rhetoric of the officer and the outcome of the situation, it sounds like driving 2 miles to a well lit public area was the right thing to do.

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Or, it made what could have just been a minor unpleasant inconvenience into something a whole lot worse.

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OR could have called 911 to tell them why you were driving 2 miles to a well lit area and you weren't trying to hide anything and would comply when you got there.

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Good point honestly. Had he done that we may have had more insight into how good or bad that officer really was.

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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I understand you are implying here that she should have been killed because she was white, and that black people should be allowed to do the same thing (actually worse, since the publicized cases involve physical violence being initiated by the suspect) and not only not get shot, but be allowed to walk away from the scene, since as some of you have openly stated on here before the cops could always find a combative black suspect later and ask permission to arrest him.

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So close. All we're saying, not implying, is don't shoot Black people in the same way that white people don't get shot under similar circumstances. Folks of all colors resist and disrespect cops and a lot get what's coming to them. Breonna Taylor, among others, did nothing.

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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Breaking a window on Jan.6 in Washington, D.C. gets you killed. Breaking windows and looting in Minneapolis, MN. gets you bail money from the Vice President. Go figure. Clown World.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/capitol-police-ashli-babbitt-riot.html


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/08/31/kamala-harris-tweet-from-june-help-us-bail-out-minneapolis-rioters-with-donating-to-minnesota-freedom-fund/

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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I understand you are implying here that she should have been killed because she was white, and that black people should be allowed to do the same thing (actually worse, since the publicized cases involve physical violence being initiated by the suspect) and not only not get shot, but be allowed to walk away from the scene, since as some of you have openly stated on here before the cops could always find a combative black suspect later and ask permission to arrest him.

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So close. All we're saying, not implying, is don't shoot Black people in the same way that white people don't get shot under similar circumstances. Folks of all colors resist and disrespect cops and a lot get what's coming to them. Breonna Taylor, among others, did nothing.

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Not close enough. People of other races do get shot in these circumstances, even though the media does not cover them in the same way. There are a couple of cases that did get publicized regionally, including one in Minnesota, although there were no riots. I'm addressing people on this forum who defend the actions of suspects escalating a situation with cops, to the point that I saw people here justifying the suspect in the Georgia Wendy's situation firing a taser at a cop after injuring another cop and saying the cops should have stopped and allowed him to walk free.
I have seen no one on this forum support a violent criminal of any other race being allowed to walk free in similar circumstances.

I was with you all the way on Breonna Taylor until I found out she was recorded being involved in his drug deals on the prison phone system (thus justifying the warrant I thought was wrong), and that her boyfriend shot first through their closed door before police entered. I generally oppose serving warrants in the middle of night to people for a non-violent crime, but I wouldn't shoot even a home invader through an unopened door, let alone at people knocking and announcing they are cops. If her boyfriend had waited until they broke through the door to start blasting, I would support the cops involved being indicted for her death by a grand jury and letting the judicial system sort it out. But if that process showed they had followed due process/procedures, then I would support the cops being found not guilty given the first shot not being fired by them.

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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Breaking a window on Jan.6 in Washington, D.C. gets you killed. Breaking windows and looting in Minneapolis, MN. gets you bail money from the Vice President. Go figure. Clown World.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/capitol-police-ashli-babbitt-riot.html


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/08/31/kamala-harris-tweet-from-june-help-us-bail-out-minneapolis-rioters-with-donating-to-minnesota-freedom-fund/

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Breaking windows in our nation's Capitol in an assault on our system of government.

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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I understand you are implying here that she should have been killed because she was white, and that black people should be allowed to do the same thing (actually worse, since the publicized cases involve physical violence being initiated by the suspect) and not only not get shot, but be allowed to walk away from the scene, since as some of you have openly stated on here before the cops could always find a combative black suspect later and ask permission to arrest him.

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So close. All we're saying, not implying, is don't shoot Black people in the same way that white people don't get shot under similar circumstances. Folks of all colors resist and disrespect cops and a lot get what's coming to them. Breonna Taylor, among others, did nothing.

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Not close enough. People of other races do get shot in these circumstances, even though the media does not cover them in the same way. There are a couple of cases that did get publicized regionally, including one in Minnesota, although there were no riots. I'm addressing people on this forum who defend the actions of suspects escalating a situation with cops, to the point that I saw people here justifying the suspect in the Georgia Wendy's situation firing a taser at a cop after injuring another cop and saying the cops should have stopped and allowed him to walk free.
I have seen no one on this forum support a violent criminal of any other race being allowed to walk free in similar circumstances.

I was with you all the way on Breonna Taylor until I found out she was recorded being involved in his drug deals on the prison phone system (thus justifying the warrant I thought was wrong), and that her boyfriend shot first through their closed door before police entered. I generally oppose serving warrants in the middle of night to people for a non-violent crime, but I wouldn't shoot even a home invader through an unopened door, let alone at people knocking and announcing they are cops. If her boyfriend had waited until they broke through the door to start blasting, I would support the cops involved being indicted for her death by a grand jury and letting the judicial system sort it out. But if that process showed they had followed due process/procedures, then I would support the cops being found not guilty given the first shot not being fired by them.

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What you are advocating is an extra-judicial execution. Next time let's make the arrest. Then have a trial.

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They told him 29 times to exit the vehicle. He refused. I suppose they could have tried to coax him out with a puppy. Or, alternatively, he could have complied with lawful orders after perhaps the 23rd time he was told?

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they also told him to put his hands out the window and get out while he was still seatbelted in... they absolutely suck at communication and conflict resolution. The driver did not comply with confusing instructions and was calm during most of the interaction, even after being pepper sprayed.

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They told him 8 times to put his hands out of the window or words to that effect. The driver didn't refuse to comply because he thought the instructions were confusing. He tried to take control of the situation and failed. When he realized he failed, he claimed to be scared or uncomfortable. Had he done as he was told and, if buckled, asked to remove his seatbelt, and then complied, no pepper spray.

This is not a difficult thing to do. Most people (including black people) are never in their entire lives placed under arrest or physically detained or pepper sprayed or tasered or shot by police. Most people (including black people) avoid these fates because most people (including black people) comply with lawful orders. Those who don't comply and resist, have a different outcome. The Hispanic cop was a jerk. So what? Comply and then file a complaint.

This driver was 100% in the wrong. The Hispanic cop was 100% a jerk. There is a 100% chance this would have ended with no pepper spray if the driver had simply complied with the jerk's lawful order.

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Easier said than done when you got two guns pointed at your face along with a bunch if screaming and yelling of confusing orders lol.

If he leans over for the belt buckle, they'll get even more anxious. The younger cop knew the **** was wrong lol, come on man.

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It's difficult to comply with guns pointed at you? It's easier to argue with men holding guns pointed at you and giving you lawful orders? Rethink that.

The young cop pleaded with him to just comply. He still refused. He brought everything on himself. Never mind he drove on for quite some time before complying with instructions to pull over. The guy could literally find no instruction he found worthy of following.

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Nobody said they weren't lawful orders lol. Rethink that.

We said they were confusing orders! Especially all while being yelled at with guns pointed at you.

The younger cop obviously looked taken back by the situation and felt bad, but since it was his partner he obviously has to have his back

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Shouting for him to get out of the car 29 times is confusing? How many times must the same order be shouted at you before you understand? 30? 31? Also, no one said you said they weren't lawful orders. Lawful orders described the orders given. Context is important and largely ignored in discussions on this sort of topic.

The young cop was probably exasperated with the jerk cop and with the non-compliant masochist behind the wheel. Cops have one thing to use in execution of their jobs...police power. If you refuse to comply with the verbal version of it, you will inevitably meet the physical version of it. Unless of course you are a BLM rioter or Antifa.

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What are you shouting and pointing guns for if his hands are out the window AS THE ASKED FOR lol. Any sudden move that they feel is suspicious, they shoot and save their own asses by saying "We didnt know if he was reaching for something".

It made him suspicious because he wanted to pull into a "well lit area"? Which led immediately to guns and screaming? Can't concentrate under that, especially for missing "tags", that were hanging in the window

How are you not getting this when you just stated that the cop was a 100% jerk?

How's he a jerk if he was also right?

I understand you're a blue lives matter till the death of you lol, but my goodness.

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So after refusing police instructions to leave the vehicle 29 times.......exactly what do you believe the police should have done ?

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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Breaking a window on Jan.6 in Washington, D.C. gets you killed. Breaking windows and looting in Minneapolis, MN. gets you bail money from the Vice President. Go figure. Clown World.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/capitol-police-ashli-babbitt-riot.html


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/08/31/kamala-harris-tweet-from-june-help-us-bail-out-minneapolis-rioters-with-donating-to-minnesota-freedom-fund/

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Breaking windows in our nation's Capitol in an assault on our system of government.

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Breaking windows and setting fires at federal buildings in other cities is an assault on our system of government.

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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Breaking a window on Jan.6 in Washington, D.C. gets you killed. Breaking windows and looting in Minneapolis, MN. gets you bail money from the Vice President. Go figure. Clown World.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/capitol-police-ashli-babbitt-riot.html


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/08/31/kamala-harris-tweet-from-june-help-us-bail-out-minneapolis-rioters-with-donating-to-minnesota-freedom-fund/

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Breaking windows in our nation's Capitol in an assault on our system of government.

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Not if Trump supporters were breaking the windows. Then its a legit act of civil disobedience.

Imagine the howling on this site had those women in the stupid pink hats stormed the capitol and broken windows and assaulted police and tried stop the electoral vote for Trump who lost the popular vote by almost 3 million.

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Bad cops make it more dangerous for every other cop. They make it more dangerous for the communities they are supposed to police which makes it more dangerous for the next community and on down the line.

But y'all will defend any piece of **** with a badge.

They're human. They can be incompetent. They can be racist. They can be really bad at their jobs. And yes, they can be murderers.

But no one, not even when they make mistakes that kill people guilty of no more than traffic violations, is worthy of consequences if they have a badge, right?

Come on. Wake up.

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So being a POS only applies to cops?... what about the POSers they pull over on a daily basis, you know... for being a POS and breaking the law?

Love how you want to condemn the cops, but not the criminals

It's not binary... it isn't always the cops and never the criminals. Wake up

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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Breaking a window on Jan.6 in Washington, D.C. gets you killed. Breaking windows and looting in Minneapolis, MN. gets you bail money from the Vice President. Go figure. Clown World.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/capitol-police-ashli-babbitt-riot.html


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/08/31/kamala-harris-tweet-from-june-help-us-bail-out-minneapolis-rioters-with-donating-to-minnesota-freedom-fund/

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Breaking windows in our nation's Capitol in an assault on our system of government.

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Not if Trump supporters were breaking the windows. Then its a legit act of civil disobedience.

Imagine the howling on this site had those women in the stupid pink hats stormed the capitol and broken windows and assaulted police and tried stop the electoral vote for Trump who lost the popular vote by almost 3 million.

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Imagine the silence from the left had they done that.

---

I don't have to imagine anything.

I've watched you and other Trump supporters on this site deny there was an insurrection, continue to support Trump when he clearly lost the election, continue to flog the Big Lie and promote all sort of other falsehoods.

The court proceedings against Trump's chumps are going to be interesting.

J.B.Katz said:

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Rawhide said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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robby44 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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robby44 said:

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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Breaking a window on Jan.6 in Washington, D.C. gets you killed. Breaking windows and looting in Minneapolis, MN. gets you bail money from the Vice President. Go figure. Clown World.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/capitol-police-ashli-babbitt-riot.html


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/08/31/kamala-harris-tweet-from-june-help-us-bail-out-minneapolis-rioters-with-donating-to-minnesota-freedom-fund/

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Breaking windows in our nation's Capitol in an assault on our system of government.

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Not if Trump supporters were breaking the windows. Then its a legit act of civil disobedience.

Imagine the howling on this site had those women in the stupid pink hats stormed the capitol and broken windows and assaulted police and tried stop the electoral vote for Trump who lost the popular vote by almost 3 million.

---

Imagine the silence from the left had they done that.

---

I don't have to imagine anything.

I've watched you and other Trump supporters on this site deny there was an insurrection, continue to support Trump when he clearly lost the election, continue to flog the Big Lie and promote all sort of other falsehoods.

The court proceedings against Trump's chumps are going to be interesting.

---

Anyone who calls what happened on 6 Jan an "insurrection", earnestly and with no hint of irony, should be dismissed out of hand. There's simply no excuse for absurd falsehoods like that in a civilized discourse.

Canon said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Rawhide said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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robby44 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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robby44 said:

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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Breaking a window on Jan.6 in Washington, D.C. gets you killed. Breaking windows and looting in Minneapolis, MN. gets you bail money from the Vice President. Go figure. Clown World.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/capitol-police-ashli-babbitt-riot.html


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/08/31/kamala-harris-tweet-from-june-help-us-bail-out-minneapolis-rioters-with-donating-to-minnesota-freedom-fund/

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Breaking windows in our nation's Capitol in an assault on our system of government.

---

Not if Trump supporters were breaking the windows. Then its a legit act of civil disobedience.

Imagine the howling on this site had those women in the stupid pink hats stormed the capitol and broken windows and assaulted police and tried stop the electoral vote for Trump who lost the popular vote by almost 3 million.

---

Imagine the silence from the left had they done that.

---

I don't have to imagine anything.

I've watched you and other Trump supporters on this site deny there was an insurrection, continue to support Trump when he clearly lost the election, continue to flog the Big Lie and promote all sort of other falsehoods.

The court proceedings against Trump's chumps are going to be interesting.

---

Anyone who calls what happened on 6 Jan an "insurrection", earnestly and with no hint of irony, should be dismissed out of hand. There's simply no excuse for absurd falsehoods like that in a civilized discourse.

---

No, Jinxy remains entitled to such falsehoods. After all she has had to suffer in her predominately white upper class neighborhood for years . She has really wanted to live in the hood of course, but.........

Canada2017 said:

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Canon said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Rawhide said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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robby44 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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robby44 said:

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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Breaking a window on Jan.6 in Washington, D.C. gets you killed. Breaking windows and looting in Minneapolis, MN. gets you bail money from the Vice President. Go figure. Clown World.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/capitol-police-ashli-babbitt-riot.html


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/08/31/kamala-harris-tweet-from-june-help-us-bail-out-minneapolis-rioters-with-donating-to-minnesota-freedom-fund/

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Breaking windows in our nation's Capitol in an assault on our system of government.

---

Not if Trump supporters were breaking the windows. Then its a legit act of civil disobedience.

Imagine the howling on this site had those women in the stupid pink hats stormed the capitol and broken windows and assaulted police and tried stop the electoral vote for Trump who lost the popular vote by almost 3 million.

---

Imagine the silence from the left had they done that.

---

I don't have to imagine anything.

I've watched you and other Trump supporters on this site deny there was an insurrection, continue to support Trump when he clearly lost the election, continue to flog the Big Lie and promote all sort of other falsehoods.

The court proceedings against Trump's chumps are going to be interesting.

---

Anyone who calls what happened on 6 Jan an "insurrection", earnestly and with no hint of irony, should be dismissed out of hand. There's simply no excuse for absurd falsehoods like that in a civilized discourse.

---

No, Jinxy remains entitled to such falsehoods. After all she has had to suffer in her predominately white upper class neighborhood for years . She has really wanted to live in the hood of course, but.........

---

Trumps chumps probably thought president had been set this past summer that you can burn down police stations, take over neighborhoods, take over municipalities, loot and destroy businesses and neighborhoods, and have politicians and even candidates pledge to bail you out of your troubles.

Of course what those Trump following idiots did was extremely wrong and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but after watching months of similar lawlessness, and those outlaws being escorted out of the places they just looted with no punishment, they may have thought the same would apply to them.

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Canon said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Rawhide said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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robby44 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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robby44 said:

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

---

Breaking a window on Jan.6 in Washington, D.C. gets you killed. Breaking windows and looting in Minneapolis, MN. gets you bail money from the Vice President. Go figure. Clown World.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/capitol-police-ashli-babbitt-riot.html


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/08/31/kamala-harris-tweet-from-june-help-us-bail-out-minneapolis-rioters-with-donating-to-minnesota-freedom-fund/

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Breaking windows in our nation's Capitol in an assault on our system of government.

---

Not if Trump supporters were breaking the windows. Then its a legit act of civil disobedience.

Imagine the howling on this site had those women in the stupid pink hats stormed the capitol and broken windows and assaulted police and tried stop the electoral vote for Trump who lost the popular vote by almost 3 million.

---

Imagine the silence from the left had they done that.

---

I don't have to imagine anything.

I've watched you and other Trump supporters on this site deny there was an insurrection, continue to support Trump when he clearly lost the election, continue to flog the Big Lie and promote all sort of other falsehoods.

The court proceedings against Trump's chumps are going to be interesting.

---

Anyone who calls what happened on 6 Jan an "insurrection", earnestly and with no hint of irony, should be dismissed out of hand. There's simply no excuse for absurd falsehoods like that in a civilized discourse.

---

No, Jinxy remains entitled to such falsehoods. After all she has had to suffer in her predominately white upper class neighborhood for years . She has really wanted to live in the hood of course, but.........

---

Trumps chumps probably thought president had been set this past summer that you can burn down police stations, take over neighborhoods, take over municipalities, loot and destroy businesses and neighborhoods, and have politicians and even candidates pledge to bail you out of your troubles.

Of course what those Trump following idiots did was extremely wrong and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but after watching months of similar lawlessness, and those outlaws being escorted out of the places they just looted with no punishment, they may have thought the same would apply to them.

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Packing the Supreme Court will result in a real insurrection.

Otherwise our freedoms will be severely restricted .

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Canon said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Rawhide said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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robby44 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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robby44 said:

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

---

Breaking a window on Jan.6 in Washington, D.C. gets you killed. Breaking windows and looting in Minneapolis, MN. gets you bail money from the Vice President. Go figure. Clown World.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/capitol-police-ashli-babbitt-riot.html


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/08/31/kamala-harris-tweet-from-june-help-us-bail-out-minneapolis-rioters-with-donating-to-minnesota-freedom-fund/

---

Breaking windows in our nation's Capitol in an assault on our system of government.

---

Not if Trump supporters were breaking the windows. Then its a legit act of civil disobedience.

Imagine the howling on this site had those women in the stupid pink hats stormed the capitol and broken windows and assaulted police and tried stop the electoral vote for Trump who lost the popular vote by almost 3 million.

---

Imagine the silence from the left had they done that.

---

I don't have to imagine anything.

I've watched you and other Trump supporters on this site deny there was an insurrection, continue to support Trump when he clearly lost the election, continue to flog the Big Lie and promote all sort of other falsehoods.

The court proceedings against Trump's chumps are going to be interesting.

---

Anyone who calls what happened on 6 Jan an "insurrection", earnestly and with no hint of irony, should be dismissed out of hand. There's simply no excuse for absurd falsehoods like that in a civilized discourse.

---

No, Jinxy remains entitled to such falsehoods. After all she has had to suffer in her predominately white upper class neighborhood for years . She has really wanted to live in the hood of course, but.........

---

Trumps chumps probably thought president had been set this past summer that you can burn down police stations, take over neighborhoods, take over municipalities, loot and destroy businesses and neighborhoods, and have politicians and even candidates pledge to bail you out of your troubles.

Of course what those Trump following idiots did was extremely wrong and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but after watching months of similar lawlessness, and those outlaws being escorted out of the places they just looted with no punishment, they may have thought the same would apply to them.

---

Trump's chumps marched in Charlottsville chanting "jews will not replace us" and were pronounced "very fine people" by Trump who is the worst kind of bully. He looks like a strong man but went and hid while the dumbasses he unleashed on the capitol did their worst.

One of the very fine people in Charlottesville ran over a young woman with his car. Boy's in jail but some states are now passing laws making it legal to kill people with your cars as a result of right-wing support for this tactic.

The attacks on police stations were/are wrong, stupid bad and misguided. But I understand why black people feel like they are under attack by police and not safe if they are stopped for expired tags. Where I live we had to appoint a review board because there were so many questionable shootings and one police chief was fired while antoehr resigned before they could fire him.

Who of any race could watch that tape of Chauvin with his knee on George Floyd's neck and not be scared of being stopped by a rogue cop on a power trip?

Point being the same logic you've used to justify the insurgents justifies black kids running from police when they shouldn't and angry folks wrecking police stations because they don't think our justice system includes them. How about we say violent behavior is never justified and teach police how to stop people from doing dumb or stupid things without killing them accidentally or on purpose.

Rightwing media did a great job of riling right-wingers up about rioting about police violence while dismissing white supremacists marching in the streets chanting antisemitic slogans. Lots of Trump supporters jumped on the confederate monument bandwagon.

Trump and Republcians didnt try to work toward the center. They used race and policing as another way to divide by painting peaceful protesters who want police to protect and serve and not shoot first and ask questions later as the villains. And it worked. If not for Covid that tactic might have won Trump reelection.

But hateful politics arent a good longterm strategy. All they create is chaos. Trump likes chaos because it makes a guy with a strong man image like him look like a good solution to some people. I hope he's a problem the legal system will solve.

J.B.Katz said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Canon said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Rawhide said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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robby44 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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robby44 said:

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

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Breaking a window on Jan.6 in Washington, D.C. gets you killed. Breaking windows and looting in Minneapolis, MN. gets you bail money from the Vice President. Go figure. Clown World.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/capitol-police-ashli-babbitt-riot.html


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/08/31/kamala-harris-tweet-from-june-help-us-bail-out-minneapolis-rioters-with-donating-to-minnesota-freedom-fund/

---

Breaking windows in our nation's Capitol in an assault on our system of government.

---

Not if Trump supporters were breaking the windows. Then its a legit act of civil disobedience.

Imagine the howling on this site had those women in the stupid pink hats stormed the capitol and broken windows and assaulted police and tried stop the electoral vote for Trump who lost the popular vote by almost 3 million.

---

Imagine the silence from the left had they done that.

---

I don't have to imagine anything.

I've watched you and other Trump supporters on this site deny there was an insurrection, continue to support Trump when he clearly lost the election, continue to flog the Big Lie and promote all sort of other falsehoods.

The court proceedings against Trump's chumps are going to be interesting.

---

Anyone who calls what happened on 6 Jan an "insurrection", earnestly and with no hint of irony, should be dismissed out of hand. There's simply no excuse for absurd falsehoods like that in a civilized discourse.

---

No, Jinxy remains entitled to such falsehoods. After all she has had to suffer in her predominately white upper class neighborhood for years . She has really wanted to live in the hood of course, but.........

---

Trumps chumps probably thought president had been set this past summer that you can burn down police stations, take over neighborhoods, take over municipalities, loot and destroy businesses and neighborhoods, and have politicians and even candidates pledge to bail you out of your troubles.

Of course what those Trump following idiots did was extremely wrong and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but after watching months of similar lawlessness, and those outlaws being escorted out of the places they just looted with no punishment, they may have thought the same would apply to them.

---

Trump's chumps marched in Charlottsville chanting "jews will not replace us" and were pronounced "very fine people" by Trump who is the worst kind of bully. He looks like a strong man but went and hid while the dumbasses he unleashed on the capitol did their worst.

One of the very fine people in Charlottesville ran over a young woman with his car. Boy's in jail but some states are now passing laws making it legal to kill people with your cars as a result of right-wing support for this tactic.

The attacks on police stations were/are wrong, stupid bad and misguided. But I understand why black people feel like they are under attack by police and not safe if they are stopped for expired tags. Where I live we had to appoint a review board because there were so many questionable shootings and one police chief was fired while antoehr resigned before they could fire him.

Who of any race could watch that tape of Chauvin with his knee on George Floyd's neck and not be scared of being stopped by a rogue cop on a power trip?

Point being the same logic you've used to justify the insurgents justifies black kids running from police when they shouldn't and angry folks wrecking police stations because they don't think our justice system includes them. How about we say violent behavior is never justified and teach police how to stop people from doing dumb or stupid things without killing them accidentally or on purpose.

Rightwing media did a great job of riling right-wingers up about rioting about police violence while dismissing white supremacists marching in the streets chanting antisemitic slogans. Lots of Trump supporters jumped on the confederate monument bandwagon.

Trump and Republcians didnt try to work toward the center. They used race and policing as another way to divide by painting peaceful protesters who want police to protect and serve and not shoot first and ask questions later as the villains. And it worked. If not for Covid that tactic might have won Trump reelection.

But hateful politics arent a good longterm strategy. All they create is chaos. Trump likes chaos because it makes a guy with a strong man image like him look like a good solution to some people. I hope he's a problem the legal system will solve.

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So exactly why did you change user names still again Jinxy ?

Did the moderators finally tire of your little "post for pay' cottage business ?

J.B.Katz said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Canon said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Rawhide said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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robby44 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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robby44 said:

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

---

Breaking a window on Jan.6 in Washington, D.C. gets you killed. Breaking windows and looting in Minneapolis, MN. gets you bail money from the Vice President. Go figure. Clown World.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/capitol-police-ashli-babbitt-riot.html


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/08/31/kamala-harris-tweet-from-june-help-us-bail-out-minneapolis-rioters-with-donating-to-minnesota-freedom-fund/

---

Breaking windows in our nation's Capitol in an assault on our system of government.

---

Not if Trump supporters were breaking the windows. Then its a legit act of civil disobedience.

Imagine the howling on this site had those women in the stupid pink hats stormed the capitol and broken windows and assaulted police and tried stop the electoral vote for Trump who lost the popular vote by almost 3 million.

---

Imagine the silence from the left had they done that.

---

I don't have to imagine anything.

I've watched you and other Trump supporters on this site deny there was an insurrection, continue to support Trump when he clearly lost the election, continue to flog the Big Lie and promote all sort of other falsehoods.

The court proceedings against Trump's chumps are going to be interesting.

---

Anyone who calls what happened on 6 Jan an "insurrection", earnestly and with no hint of irony, should be dismissed out of hand. There's simply no excuse for absurd falsehoods like that in a civilized discourse.

---

No, Jinxy remains entitled to such falsehoods. After all she has had to suffer in her predominately white upper class neighborhood for years . She has really wanted to live in the hood of course, but.........

---

Trumps chumps probably thought president had been set this past summer that you can burn down police stations, take over neighborhoods, take over municipalities, loot and destroy businesses and neighborhoods, and have politicians and even candidates pledge to bail you out of your troubles.

Of course what those Trump following idiots did was extremely wrong and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but after watching months of similar lawlessness, and those outlaws being escorted out of the places they just looted with no punishment, they may have thought the same would apply to them.

---

Trump's chumps marched in Charlottsville chanting "jews will not replace us" and were pronounced "very fine people" by Trump who is the worst kind of bully. He looks like a strong man but went and hid while the dumbasses he unleashed on the capitol did their worst.

One of the very fine people in Charlottesville ran over a young woman with his car. Boy's in jail but some states are now passing laws making it legal to kill people with your cars as a result of right-wing support for this tactic.

The attacks on police stations were/are wrong, stupid bad and misguided. But I understand why black people feel like they are under attack by police and not safe if they are stopped for expired tags. Where I live we had to appoint a review board because there were so many questionable shootings and one police chief was fired while antoehr resigned before they could fire him.

Who of any race could watch that tape of Chauvin with his knee on George Floyd's neck and not be scared of being stopped by a rogue cop on a power trip?

Point being the same logic you've used to justify the insurgents justifies black kids running from police when they shouldn't and angry folks wrecking police stations because they don't think our justice system includes them. How about we say violent behavior is never justified and teach police how to stop people from doing dumb or stupid things without killing them accidentally or on purpose.

Rightwing media did a great job of riling right-wingers up about rioting about police violence while dismissing white supremacists marching in the streets chanting antisemitic slogans. Lots of Trump supporters jumped on the confederate monument bandwagon.

Trump and Republcians didnt try to work toward the center. They used race and policing as another way to divide by painting peaceful protesters who want police to protect and serve and not shoot first and ask questions later as the villains. And it worked. If not for Covid that tactic might have won Trump reelection.

But hateful politics arent a good longterm strategy. All they create is chaos. Trump likes chaos because it makes a guy with a strong man image like him look like a good solution to some people. I hope he's a problem the legal system will solve.

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1) Not that I need to tell you, it has been told on here 100 times. Trump wasn't talking about the white supremacist types when he said very fine people on both sides. He condemned the violent supremacist.

2) I've literally used no logic to justify anything that is illegal. That is crazy to say, and really unstable. I've noted that others use some kind of justification for it, probably the example they had seen of a summer of insurrection often with no penalty.

Don't template your musings onto my thoughts. As I made it very clear, all law breakers, all of those this summer included, should have been and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Good to have you back Jinx.

quash said:

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Canada2017 said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Canon said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Rawhide said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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robby44 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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robby44 said:

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Folks should comply just like the folks on Jan 6th did in DC

---

Breaking a window on Jan.6 in Washington, D.C. gets you killed. Breaking windows and looting in Minneapolis, MN. gets you bail money from the Vice President. Go figure. Clown World.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/capitol-police-ashli-babbitt-riot.html


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/08/31/kamala-harris-tweet-from-june-help-us-bail-out-minneapolis-rioters-with-donating-to-minnesota-freedom-fund/

---

Breaking windows in our nation's Capitol in an assault on our system of government.

---

Not if Trump supporters were breaking the windows. Then its a legit act of civil disobedience.

Imagine the howling on this site had those women in the stupid pink hats stormed the capitol and broken windows and assaulted police and tried stop the electoral vote for Trump who lost the popular vote by almost 3 million.

---

Imagine the silence from the left had they done that.

---

I don't have to imagine anything.

I've watched you and other Trump supporters on this site deny there was an insurrection, continue to support Trump when he clearly lost the election, continue to flog the Big Lie and promote all sort of other falsehoods.

The court proceedings against Trump's chumps are going to be interesting.

---

Anyone who calls what happened on 6 Jan an "insurrection", earnestly and with no hint of irony, should be dismissed out of hand. There's simply no excuse for absurd falsehoods like that in a civilized discourse.

---

No, Jinxy remains entitled to such falsehoods. After all she has had to suffer in her predominately white upper class neighborhood for years . She has really wanted to live in the hood of course, but.........

---

Trumps chumps probably thought president had been set this past summer that you can burn down police stations, take over neighborhoods, take over municipalities, loot and destroy businesses and neighborhoods, and have politicians and even candidates pledge to bail you out of your troubles.

Of course what those Trump following idiots did was extremely wrong and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but after watching months of similar lawlessness, and those outlaws being escorted out of the places they just looted with no punishment, they may have thought the same would apply to them.

---

Trump's chumps marched in Charlottsville chanting "jews will not replace us" and were pronounced "very fine people" by Trump who is the worst kind of bully. He looks like a strong man but went and hid while the dumbasses he unleashed on the capitol did their worst.

One of the very fine people in Charlottesville ran over a young woman with his car. Boy's in jail but some states are now passing laws making it legal to kill people with your cars as a result of right-wing support for this tactic.

The attacks on police stations were/are wrong, stupid bad and misguided. But I understand why black people feel like they are under attack by police and not safe if they are stopped for expired tags. Where I live we had to appoint a review board because there were so many questionable shootings and one police chief was fired while antoehr resigned before they could fire him.

Who of any race could watch that tape of Chauvin with his knee on George Floyd's neck and not be scared of being stopped by a rogue cop on a power trip?

Point being the same logic you've used to justify the insurgents justifies black kids running from police when they shouldn't and angry folks wrecking police stations because they don't think our justice system includes them. How about we say violent behavior is never justified and teach police how to stop people from doing dumb or stupid things without killing them accidentally or on purpose.

Rightwing media did a great job of riling right-wingers up about rioting about police violence while dismissing white supremacists marching in the streets chanting antisemitic slogans. Lots of Trump supporters jumped on the confederate monument bandwagon.

Trump and Republcians didnt try to work toward the center. They used race and policing as another way to divide by painting peaceful protesters who want police to protect and serve and not shoot first and ask questions later as the villains. And it worked. If not for Covid that tactic might have won Trump reelection.

But hateful politics arent a good longterm strategy. All they create is chaos. Trump likes chaos because it makes a guy with a strong man image like him look like a good solution to some people. I hope he's a problem the legal system will solve.

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So exactly why did you change user names still again Jinxy ?

Did the moderators finally tire of your little "post for pay' cottage business ?

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Tell me more about getting paid to post: who pays for it, how does one qualify?

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Probably the same place you'd find those Soros bucks, or if this were reddit, Xi Bucks.

I don't know why when people post the opposite opinions of others their first thought is "this person is getting paid to post this, no rational human being thinks like this."

It's all very tiresome, you see it on every site really.

BylrFan said:

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Canon said:

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robby44 said:

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They told him 29 times to exit the vehicle. He refused. I suppose they could have tried to coax him out with a puppy. Or, alternatively, he could have complied with lawful orders after perhaps the 23rd time he was told?

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Cool. He committed no crimes. Stop defending bad peace officers.

If an officer asked to search your car without a warrant, would you comply?

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He would because he's a bootlicker.