quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Nomadland was really good. Nothing particularly woke or intersectional about it.

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Good morning, Sam.

What made Nomadland so good? I used to watch everything that came out, but have found a lot of the new stuff unimpressive.

Thanks

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Good morning. There were a lot of visual elements that I liked. Aside from that, I thought it told a good story in an unusual way. There are no big events. Up to the last 20 minutes I still wasn't sure where it was going. By the end, I could see that the character had developed through the weight of experiences in the film. It's sort of a cumulative effect. There's an aspect of social commentary, but it's understated and lets you draw your own conclusions. It's the opposite of the extreme preachy movies that have been out the last few years.

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The protagonist should face a conflict and resolve it. Fern did, and I thoroughly enjoyed the journey to get there.

Canon wouldn't respond but the critics almost uniformly criticized the movie for not taking shots at capitalism or Amazon as a stand in for capitalism. Sometimes a movie just has a compelling story to tell. You want socialist propaganda finish your own damn screenplay.

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Would be much much better off if more movies, meant for entertainment, stuck with a personal story, real, fiction or a combo of the two and left out the all too predictable propaganda "lesson" attached to way too many stories today.

quash said:

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Canon said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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The lead is a middle aged straight white woman, not sure how Nomadland falls into the intersectionality ambit.

As to low grossing, well, there was a thing going on in 2020.

I watched it, loved it, and disagree with the main criticism of the movie. Did you also disagree?

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Are you under the impression that women aren't part of the intersectional hierarchy? The Academy seems to disagree. The below is supposed to begin in 2022, but it appears to be getting a trial run.


On Tuesday, however, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced that movies will now have to meet new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible to be nominated for Best Picture one of the "Big Five" categories of the annual event which may make #OscarsSoWhite a trend of the past.

Per the Academy, the standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department headsCasting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writerare from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film's crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film's distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film's production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
Women
Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/academy-announces-new-oscar-eligibility-standards-diversity-inclusion-requirements/

Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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The lead is a middle aged straight white woman, not sure how Nomadland falls into the intersectionality ambit.

As to low grossing, well, there was a thing going on in 2020.

I watched it, loved it, and disagree with the main criticism of the movie. Did you also disagree?

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Are you under the impression that women aren't part of the intersectional hierarchy? The Academy seems to disagree. The below is supposed to begin in 2022, but it appears to be getting a trial run.


On Tuesday, however, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced that movies will now have to meet new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible to be nominated for Best Picture one of the "Big Five" categories of the annual event which may make #OscarsSoWhite a trend of the past.

Per the Academy, the standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department headsCasting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writerare from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film's crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film's distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film's production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
Women
Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/academy-announces-new-oscar-eligibility-standards-diversity-inclusion-requirements/

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Intersection means at least two roads. I gave you Woman Avenue. What else have you got to support your claim about Nomadland?

I don't think I get your position overall. The movie has a chance to bash Amazon and seasonal work and didn't. The lead is a female but she's straight.

In terms of "woke" it basically gets a 0. When compared to other Hollywood movies these days it's definitely a 0 on the woke scale.

If your point is the rules are stupid then I don't think there's much of an argument. If your point is you don't want to watch the movie then, ok, that's your choice. If your point is that the movie is too intersectional then you're just wrong. It's boring as boring can be but it never felt preachy about any value of any kind, to me.

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I don't think I get your position overall. The movie has a chance to bash Amazon and seasonal work and didn't. The lead is a female but she's straight.

In terms of "woke" it basically gets a 0. When compared to other Hollywood movies these days it's definitely a 0 on the woke scale.

If your point is the rules are stupid then I don't think there's much of an argument. If your point is you don't want to watch the movie then, ok, that's your choice. If your point is that the movie is too intersectional then you're just wrong. It's boring as boring can be but it never felt preachy about any value of any kind, to me.

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Preaching isn't required. Preaching is often counterproductive. Regardless, it's irrelevant. I was referring to two items in the original post:

1. The recently published Oscar rules that I subsequently posted. (Precise fit)
2. The abstract art quality of films like this that receive awards largely based on how little critics think the general public would value them. (Precise fit)

I hope that clears it up.

Reminds me of the 1940 Oscars, when top honors for intersectionality went to the woke favorite Gone With the Wind. Runners-up included The Wizard of Oz, another movie with a female lead, which made back less than half its budget at the box office.

Sam Lowry said:

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Reminds me of the 1940 Oscars, when top honors for intersectionality went to the woke favorite Gone With the Wind. Runners-up included The Wizard of Oz, another movie with a female lead, which made back less than half its budget at the box office.

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I'd enjoy reading the Oscar regulations on the topic published just before those awards were given out. Can you post those? Thanks in advance.

Canon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Reminds me of the 1940 Oscars, when top honors for intersectionality went to the woke favorite Gone With the Wind. Runners-up included The Wizard of Oz, another movie with a female lead, which made back less than half its budget at the box office.

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I'd enjoy reading the Oscar regulations on the topic published just before those awards were given out. Can you post those? Thanks in advance.

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In terms of diversity there were none. That's my point. You don't need regulations to have a female lead.

Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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The lead is a middle aged straight white woman, not sure how Nomadland falls into the intersectionality ambit.

As to low grossing, well, there was a thing going on in 2020.

I watched it, loved it, and disagree with the main criticism of the movie. Did you also disagree?

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Are you under the impression that women aren't part of the intersectional hierarchy? The Academy seems to disagree. The below is supposed to begin in 2022, but it appears to be getting a trial run.


On Tuesday, however, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced that movies will now have to meet new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible to be nominated for Best Picture one of the "Big Five" categories of the annual event which may make #OscarsSoWhite a trend of the past.

Per the Academy, the standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department headsCasting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writerare from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film's crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film's distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film's production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
Women
Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/academy-announces-new-oscar-eligibility-standards-diversity-inclusion-requirements/

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Intersection means at least two roads. I gave you Woman Avenue. What else have you got to support your claim about Nomadland?

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Your constant attempts to absurdly parse terms or concepts when you are clearly wrong is tiresome. Feel free to look up what the term means, if you need a refresher. The Oscar rules I posted comport precisely with the term and the film fits neatly into multiple intersectional categories required. Just stop. This isn't a winning argument for you.

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How does this film fit neatly into "multiple intersectional categories"? I spotted you a female lead, now tell me what multiple additions you see.

Jack Bauer said:

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8.6m people watched the Oscars? That's half the audience of the Baylor-Gonzaga game.

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As we predicted at OutKick it would, the 93rd Academy Awards ceremony tanked to unimaginable lows. The 2021 Oscars fell more than 50% year-over-year in overnight ratings, OutKick has learned. Here's a look at the past three years:

2021: 8.6/18
2020: 18.1/33
2019: 21.6/36

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To be fair, we already knew how the Championship game was going to end... at least Baylor fans did. Lots of people had no idea how the movie would end.

Sam Lowry said:

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Canon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Reminds me of the 1940 Oscars, when top honors for intersectionality went to the woke favorite Gone With the Wind. Runners-up included The Wizard of Oz, another movie with a female lead, which made back less than half its budget at the box office.

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I'd enjoy reading the Oscar regulations on the topic published just before those awards were given out. Can you post those? Thanks in advance.

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In terms of diversity there were none. That's my point. You don't need regulations to have a female lead.

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Black actors in Wind, little people in Windier.

quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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The lead is a middle aged straight white woman, not sure how Nomadland falls into the intersectionality ambit.

As to low grossing, well, there was a thing going on in 2020.

I watched it, loved it, and disagree with the main criticism of the movie. Did you also disagree?

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Are you under the impression that women aren't part of the intersectional hierarchy? The Academy seems to disagree. The below is supposed to begin in 2022, but it appears to be getting a trial run.


On Tuesday, however, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced that movies will now have to meet new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible to be nominated for Best Picture one of the "Big Five" categories of the annual event which may make #OscarsSoWhite a trend of the past.

Per the Academy, the standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department headsCasting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writerare from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film's crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film's distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film's production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
Women
Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/academy-announces-new-oscar-eligibility-standards-diversity-inclusion-requirements/

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Intersection means at least two roads. I gave you Woman Avenue. What else have you got to support your claim about Nomadland?

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Your constant attempts to absurdly parse terms or concepts when you are clearly wrong is tiresome. Feel free to look up what the term means, if you need a refresher. The Oscar rules I posted comport precisely with the term and the film fits neatly into multiple intersectional categories required. Just stop. This isn't a winning argument for you.

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How does this film fit neatly into "multiple intersectional categories"? I spotted you a female lead, now tell me what multiple additions you see.

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I think if you would just do some minimal reading about the film, and if you're able to execute basic level thinking, then it'll come to you.

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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The lead is a middle aged straight white woman, not sure how Nomadland falls into the intersectionality ambit.

As to low grossing, well, there was a thing going on in 2020.

I watched it, loved it, and disagree with the main criticism of the movie. Did you also disagree?

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Are you under the impression that women aren't part of the intersectional hierarchy? The Academy seems to disagree. The below is supposed to begin in 2022, but it appears to be getting a trial run.


On Tuesday, however, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced that movies will now have to meet new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible to be nominated for Best Picture one of the "Big Five" categories of the annual event which may make #OscarsSoWhite a trend of the past.

Per the Academy, the standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department headsCasting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writerare from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film's crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film's distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film's production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
Women
Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/academy-announces-new-oscar-eligibility-standards-diversity-inclusion-requirements/

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Intersection means at least two roads. I gave you Woman Avenue. What else have you got to support your claim about Nomadland?

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Your constant attempts to absurdly parse terms or concepts when you are clearly wrong is tiresome. Feel free to look up what the term means, if you need a refresher. The Oscar rules I posted comport precisely with the term and the film fits neatly into multiple intersectional categories required. Just stop. This isn't a winning argument for you.

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How does this film fit neatly into "multiple intersectional categories"? I spotted you a female lead, now tell me what multiple additions you see.

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I think if you would just do some minimal reading about the film, and if you're able to execute basic level thinking, then it'll come to you.

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I actually saw the movie. I also read a half dozen or so reviews. Explain it to me if you can.

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Canon said:

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Reminds me of the 1940 Oscars, when top honors for intersectionality went to the woke favorite Gone With the Wind. Runners-up included The Wizard of Oz, another movie with a female lead, which made back less than half its budget at the box office.

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I'd enjoy reading the Oscar regulations on the topic published just before those awards were given out. Can you post those? Thanks in advance.

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In terms of diversity there were none. That's my point. You don't need regulations to have a female lead.

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Having a female lead (or other checked diversity box) isn't the point. Not getting the award if you don't, is.

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Canon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Reminds me of the 1940 Oscars, when top honors for intersectionality went to the woke favorite Gone With the Wind. Runners-up included The Wizard of Oz, another movie with a female lead, which made back less than half its budget at the box office.

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I'd enjoy reading the Oscar regulations on the topic published just before those awards were given out. Can you post those? Thanks in advance.

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In terms of diversity there were none. That's my point. You don't need regulations to have a female lead.

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Having a female lead (or other checked diversity box) isn't the point. Not getting the award if you don't, is.

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I hate the new rules as much as anyone, but they're not even in effect yet. This movie won fair and square.

Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Canon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Reminds me of the 1940 Oscars, when top honors for intersectionality went to the woke favorite Gone With the Wind. Runners-up included The Wizard of Oz, another movie with a female lead, which made back less than half its budget at the box office.

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I'd enjoy reading the Oscar regulations on the topic published just before those awards were given out. Can you post those? Thanks in advance.

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In terms of diversity there were none. That's my point. You don't need regulations to have a female lead.

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Having a female lead (or other checked diversity box) isn't the point. Not getting the award if you don't, is.

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I hate the new rules as much as anyone, but they're not even in effect yet. This movie won fair and square.

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Having not seen the film, and all the other films to be in a position to judge, I can't argue with you about that. And this isn't criticism against the movie, it's against the Academy. Maybe the rules aren't official yet, but it wouldn't take much to suspect they were the de facto standard this year and going forward anyway. But I'm not trying to take anything away from this film. If it was earned in its own right, my hat's off to them.

Would Blazing Saddles win in 2021- got a black male protagonist, a budding white best friend, solves the town's problem of all those evil racists, wins the hearts of all the town's people.

/S but what a great funny movie. Sad you couldn't make it in this day in age. Tropic Thunder is lucky they were just before the SJW crowd took over twitter, because that's one of my favorite Downey roles.

BUBear24 said:

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Would Blazing Saddles win in 2021- got a black male protagonist, a budding white best friend, solves the town's problem of all those evil racists, wins the hearts of all the town's people.

/S but what a great funny movie. Sad you couldn't make it in this day in age. Tropic Thunder is lucky they were just before the SJW crowd took over twitter, because that's one of my favorite Downey roles.

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"Never go full quash"

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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The lead is a middle aged straight white woman, not sure how Nomadland falls into the intersectionality ambit.

As to low grossing, well, there was a thing going on in 2020.

I watched it, loved it, and disagree with the main criticism of the movie. Did you also disagree?

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Are you under the impression that women aren't part of the intersectional hierarchy? The Academy seems to disagree. The below is supposed to begin in 2022, but it appears to be getting a trial run.


On Tuesday, however, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced that movies will now have to meet new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible to be nominated for Best Picture one of the "Big Five" categories of the annual event which may make #OscarsSoWhite a trend of the past.

Per the Academy, the standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department headsCasting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writerare from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film's crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film's distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film's production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
Women
Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/academy-announces-new-oscar-eligibility-standards-diversity-inclusion-requirements/

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Intersection means at least two roads. I gave you Woman Avenue. What else have you got to support your claim about Nomadland?

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Your constant attempts to absurdly parse terms or concepts when you are clearly wrong is tiresome. Feel free to look up what the term means, if you need a refresher. The Oscar rules I posted comport precisely with the term and the film fits neatly into multiple intersectional categories required. Just stop. This isn't a winning argument for you.

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How does this film fit neatly into "multiple intersectional categories"? I spotted you a female lead, now tell me what multiple additions you see.

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I think if you would just do some minimal reading about the film, and if you're able to execute basic level thinking, then it'll come to you.

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I saw the film, you didn't, and you think you've noticed some intersectionality that is obvious with basic level thinking?

Do tell, as Canon will not.

quash said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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The lead is a middle aged straight white woman, not sure how Nomadland falls into the intersectionality ambit.

As to low grossing, well, there was a thing going on in 2020.

I watched it, loved it, and disagree with the main criticism of the movie. Did you also disagree?

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Are you under the impression that women aren't part of the intersectional hierarchy? The Academy seems to disagree. The below is supposed to begin in 2022, but it appears to be getting a trial run.


On Tuesday, however, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced that movies will now have to meet new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible to be nominated for Best Picture one of the "Big Five" categories of the annual event which may make #OscarsSoWhite a trend of the past.

Per the Academy, the standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department headsCasting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writerare from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film's crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film's distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film's production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
Women
Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/academy-announces-new-oscar-eligibility-standards-diversity-inclusion-requirements/

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Intersection means at least two roads. I gave you Woman Avenue. What else have you got to support your claim about Nomadland?

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Your constant attempts to absurdly parse terms or concepts when you are clearly wrong is tiresome. Feel free to look up what the term means, if you need a refresher. The Oscar rules I posted comport precisely with the term and the film fits neatly into multiple intersectional categories required. Just stop. This isn't a winning argument for you.

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How does this film fit neatly into "multiple intersectional categories"? I spotted you a female lead, now tell me what multiple additions you see.

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I think if you would just do some minimal reading about the film, and if you're able to execute basic level thinking, then it'll come to you.

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I saw the film, you didn't, and you think you've noticed some intersectionality that is obvious with basic level thinking?

Do tell, as Canon will not.

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Why don't you first tell us what you would accept as a conceptual definition of "intersectionality" as it relates to a film? Might help us avoid your inevitable word games and usual bobbin' and weavin'.

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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The lead is a middle aged straight white woman, not sure how Nomadland falls into the intersectionality ambit.

As to low grossing, well, there was a thing going on in 2020.

I watched it, loved it, and disagree with the main criticism of the movie. Did you also disagree?

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Are you under the impression that women aren't part of the intersectional hierarchy? The Academy seems to disagree. The below is supposed to begin in 2022, but it appears to be getting a trial run.


On Tuesday, however, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced that movies will now have to meet new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible to be nominated for Best Picture one of the "Big Five" categories of the annual event which may make #OscarsSoWhite a trend of the past.

Per the Academy, the standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department headsCasting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writerare from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film's crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film's distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film's production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
Women
Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/academy-announces-new-oscar-eligibility-standards-diversity-inclusion-requirements/

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Intersection means at least two roads. I gave you Woman Avenue. What else have you got to support your claim about Nomadland?

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Your constant attempts to absurdly parse terms or concepts when you are clearly wrong is tiresome. Feel free to look up what the term means, if you need a refresher. The Oscar rules I posted comport precisely with the term and the film fits neatly into multiple intersectional categories required. Just stop. This isn't a winning argument for you.

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How does this film fit neatly into "multiple intersectional categories"? I spotted you a female lead, now tell me what multiple additions you see.

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I think if you would just do some minimal reading about the film, and if you're able to execute basic level thinking, then it'll come to you.

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I saw the film, you didn't, and you think you've noticed some intersectionality that is obvious with basic level thinking?

Do tell, as Canon will not.

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Why don't you first tell us what you would accept as a conceptual definition of "intersectionality" as it relates to a film? Might help us avoid your inevitable word games and usual bobbin' and weavin'.

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Canon brought it up, you didn't say squat. Now you are saying with basic level thinking I should be able to spot it; you did, without even watching the movie. If it's not hard why are you the one bobbing and weaving in tandem with Canon?

Hollywood is trash and spreads perversion all over the world. Nuke it and build back better as they say.

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quash said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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The lead is a middle aged straight white woman, not sure how Nomadland falls into the intersectionality ambit.

As to low grossing, well, there was a thing going on in 2020.

I watched it, loved it, and disagree with the main criticism of the movie. Did you also disagree?

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Are you under the impression that women aren't part of the intersectional hierarchy? The Academy seems to disagree. The below is supposed to begin in 2022, but it appears to be getting a trial run.


On Tuesday, however, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced that movies will now have to meet new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible to be nominated for Best Picture one of the "Big Five" categories of the annual event which may make #OscarsSoWhite a trend of the past.

Per the Academy, the standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department headsCasting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writerare from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film's crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film's distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film's production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
Women
Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/academy-announces-new-oscar-eligibility-standards-diversity-inclusion-requirements/

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Intersection means at least two roads. I gave you Woman Avenue. What else have you got to support your claim about Nomadland?

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Your constant attempts to absurdly parse terms or concepts when you are clearly wrong is tiresome. Feel free to look up what the term means, if you need a refresher. The Oscar rules I posted comport precisely with the term and the film fits neatly into multiple intersectional categories required. Just stop. This isn't a winning argument for you.

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How does this film fit neatly into "multiple intersectional categories"? I spotted you a female lead, now tell me what multiple additions you see.

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I think if you would just do some minimal reading about the film, and if you're able to execute basic level thinking, then it'll come to you.

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I saw the film, you didn't, and you think you've noticed some intersectionality that is obvious with basic level thinking?

Do tell, as Canon will not.

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Why don't you first tell us what you would accept as a conceptual definition of "intersectionality" as it relates to a film? Might help us avoid your inevitable word games and usual bobbin' and weavin'.

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I guess Im just lost. The lead is not gay, not trans, not black/asian/native american...it isnt woke (has a chance to take a stab at capitalism and at Amazon and does neither), it's not glitzy or glamorous, it's not a period piece, it doesnt have underaged children in it.

If your argument is that those rules are insane and stupid, 100% agreement.

If your argument is about Nomadland you're just sort of lost, at most it's a mundane, or even boring, look at sort of modern day hippies...in my best Chris Farley, they end up living in a van...down by the river.

Carlos Cruz said:

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Hollywood is trash and spreads perversion all over the world. Nuke it and build back better as they say.

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Hollywood has been spreading trash and perversion since before it was "Hollywood" and people talked in movies but Nomadland is neither trash nor perversion.

There is no building it back better, it is entertainment, not that many people looking to be entertained with Bible stories, if there were you better believe someone would be making those movies because all anyone in Hollywood truly cares about is money. I would bet that 90% of the "woke" Hollywood crowd could be persuaded Jesus walked on water if they could make money pitching that.

quash said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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The lead is a middle aged straight white woman, not sure how Nomadland falls into the intersectionality ambit.

As to low grossing, well, there was a thing going on in 2020.

I watched it, loved it, and disagree with the main criticism of the movie. Did you also disagree?

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Are you under the impression that women aren't part of the intersectional hierarchy? The Academy seems to disagree. The below is supposed to begin in 2022, but it appears to be getting a trial run.


On Tuesday, however, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced that movies will now have to meet new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible to be nominated for Best Picture one of the "Big Five" categories of the annual event which may make #OscarsSoWhite a trend of the past.

Per the Academy, the standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department headsCasting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writerare from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film's crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film's distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film's production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
Women
Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/academy-announces-new-oscar-eligibility-standards-diversity-inclusion-requirements/

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Intersection means at least two roads. I gave you Woman Avenue. What else have you got to support your claim about Nomadland?

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Your constant attempts to absurdly parse terms or concepts when you are clearly wrong is tiresome. Feel free to look up what the term means, if you need a refresher. The Oscar rules I posted comport precisely with the term and the film fits neatly into multiple intersectional categories required. Just stop. This isn't a winning argument for you.

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How does this film fit neatly into "multiple intersectional categories"? I spotted you a female lead, now tell me what multiple additions you see.

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I think if you would just do some minimal reading about the film, and if you're able to execute basic level thinking, then it'll come to you.

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I saw the film, you didn't, and you think you've noticed some intersectionality that is obvious with basic level thinking?

Do tell, as Canon will not.

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Why don't you first tell us what you would accept as a conceptual definition of "intersectionality" as it relates to a film? Might help us avoid your inevitable word games and usual bobbin' and weavin'.

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Canon brought it up, you didn't say squat. Now you are saying with basic level thinking I should be able to spot it; you did, without even watching the movie. If it's not hard why are you the one bobbing and weaving in tandem with Canon?

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Both of us have already answered it. You're either too stupid, lazy, or full of yourself to bother reading and incorporating it into your brain. If, rather, you're trying to play your usual games, then I need to know the terms of your game, so answer my question.

Canon said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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nvm

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Reminds me of the 1940 Oscars, when top honors for intersectionality went to the woke favorite Gone With the Wind. Runners-up included The Wizard of Oz, another movie with a female lead, which made back less than half its budget at the box office.

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I'd enjoy reading the Oscar regulations on the topic published just before those awards were given out. Can you post those? Thanks in advance.

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In terms of diversity there were none. That's my point. You don't need regulations to have a female lead.

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Having a female lead (or other checked diversity box) isn't the point. Not getting the award if you don't, is.

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I hate the new rules as much as anyone, but they're not even in effect yet. This movie won fair and square.

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Having not seen the film, and all the other films to be in a position to judge, I can't argue with you about that. And this isn't criticism against the movie, it's against the Academy. Maybe the rules aren't official yet, but it wouldn't take much to suspect they were the de facto standard this year and going forward anyway. But I'm not trying to take anything away from this film. If it was earned in its own right, my hat's off to them.

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nvm... thought I was on Bear Cave

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I think almost any movie that could have been given the award would have done poorly at the box office. It's hard to do well at the box office when the box office is closed.

With that said, the award has never been about the movie that does the best at the box office. If that were the case, any Fast and the Furious movie or movie staring the Rock would have won the award. And don't get me wrong, I enjoy those movies for what they are, but I don't think they are best film worthy.

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Tenet came out in the same month and grossed $363m. Hollywood despises average Americans.

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nvm

Thanks obama .....

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quash said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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The lead is a middle aged straight white woman, not sure how Nomadland falls into the intersectionality ambit.

As to low grossing, well, there was a thing going on in 2020.

I watched it, loved it, and disagree with the main criticism of the movie. Did you also disagree?

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Are you under the impression that women aren't part of the intersectional hierarchy? The Academy seems to disagree. The below is supposed to begin in 2022, but it appears to be getting a trial run.


On Tuesday, however, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced that movies will now have to meet new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible to be nominated for Best Picture one of the "Big Five" categories of the annual event which may make #OscarsSoWhite a trend of the past.

Per the Academy, the standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department headsCasting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writerare from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film's crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film's distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film's production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
Women
Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/academy-announces-new-oscar-eligibility-standards-diversity-inclusion-requirements/

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Intersection means at least two roads. I gave you Woman Avenue. What else have you got to support your claim about Nomadland?

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Your constant attempts to absurdly parse terms or concepts when you are clearly wrong is tiresome. Feel free to look up what the term means, if you need a refresher. The Oscar rules I posted comport precisely with the term and the film fits neatly into multiple intersectional categories required. Just stop. This isn't a winning argument for you.

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How does this film fit neatly into "multiple intersectional categories"? I spotted you a female lead, now tell me what multiple additions you see.

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I think if you would just do some minimal reading about the film, and if you're able to execute basic level thinking, then it'll come to you.

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I saw the film, you didn't, and you think you've noticed some intersectionality that is obvious with basic level thinking?

Do tell, as Canon will not.

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Why don't you first tell us what you would accept as a conceptual definition of "intersectionality" as it relates to a film? Might help us avoid your inevitable word games and usual bobbin' and weavin'.

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Canon brought it up, you didn't say squat. Now you are saying with basic level thinking I should be able to spot it; you did, without even watching the movie. If it's not hard why are you the one bobbing and weaving in tandem with Canon?

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Both of us have already answered it. You're either too stupid, lazy, or full of yourself to bother reading and incorporating it into your brain. If, rather, you're trying to play your usual games, then I need to know the terms of your game, so answer my question.

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Neither of you have attempted an answer. It's not my game.

In fact, choose your own definition of intersectionality and then tell me where in the film you see it happening.

quash said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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The lead is a middle aged straight white woman, not sure how Nomadland falls into the intersectionality ambit.

As to low grossing, well, there was a thing going on in 2020.

I watched it, loved it, and disagree with the main criticism of the movie. Did you also disagree?

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Are you under the impression that women aren't part of the intersectional hierarchy? The Academy seems to disagree. The below is supposed to begin in 2022, but it appears to be getting a trial run.


On Tuesday, however, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced that movies will now have to meet new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible to be nominated for Best Picture one of the "Big Five" categories of the annual event which may make #OscarsSoWhite a trend of the past.

Per the Academy, the standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department headsCasting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writerare from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film's crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film's distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film's production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
Women
Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/academy-announces-new-oscar-eligibility-standards-diversity-inclusion-requirements/

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Intersection means at least two roads. I gave you Woman Avenue. What else have you got to support your claim about Nomadland?

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Your constant attempts to absurdly parse terms or concepts when you are clearly wrong is tiresome. Feel free to look up what the term means, if you need a refresher. The Oscar rules I posted comport precisely with the term and the film fits neatly into multiple intersectional categories required. Just stop. This isn't a winning argument for you.

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How does this film fit neatly into "multiple intersectional categories"? I spotted you a female lead, now tell me what multiple additions you see.

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I think if you would just do some minimal reading about the film, and if you're able to execute basic level thinking, then it'll come to you.

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I saw the film, you didn't, and you think you've noticed some intersectionality that is obvious with basic level thinking?

Do tell, as Canon will not.

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Why don't you first tell us what you would accept as a conceptual definition of "intersectionality" as it relates to a film? Might help us avoid your inevitable word games and usual bobbin' and weavin'.

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Canon brought it up, you didn't say squat. Now you are saying with basic level thinking I should be able to spot it; you did, without even watching the movie. If it's not hard why are you the one bobbing and weaving in tandem with Canon?

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Both of us have already answered it. You're either too stupid, lazy, or full of yourself to bother reading and incorporating it into your brain. If, rather, you're trying to play your usual games, then I need to know the terms of your game, so answer my question.

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Neither of you have attempted an answer. It's not my game.

In fact, choose your own definition of intersectionality and then tell me where in the film you see it happening.

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My first post in this thread.

You can not be this dense, can you?

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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quash said:

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Canon said:

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...a movie virtually no one has seen. Hollywood has so intersectionalized their awards and bought so deeply into the idea that if average people like something it must not be good, that they are destroying themselves. The movie industry appears to be in a steep decline as it becomes just another vehicle for various forms of woke virtue signaling.


Nomadland becomes lowest-grossing Best Picture in Academy Awards' 93-year history

Nomadland earned top honor Best Picture as the Academy Awards broke tradition by not announcing the award last
The movie only made $2.5 million at the box office and is the lowest-grossing Best Picture winner in Academy Award history
while the battle was on for the Best Picture gong, a year of cinema closures during the pandemic meant the other seven nominees also suffered the biggest box office flops of all time

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9510519/Oscars-2021-winners-Hollywoods-finest-honored-work-film-93rd-Academy-Awards.html

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The lead is a middle aged straight white woman, not sure how Nomadland falls into the intersectionality ambit.

As to low grossing, well, there was a thing going on in 2020.

I watched it, loved it, and disagree with the main criticism of the movie. Did you also disagree?

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Are you under the impression that women aren't part of the intersectional hierarchy? The Academy seems to disagree. The below is supposed to begin in 2022, but it appears to be getting a trial run.


On Tuesday, however, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced that movies will now have to meet new representation and inclusion standards in order to be eligible to be nominated for Best Picture one of the "Big Five" categories of the annual event which may make #OscarsSoWhite a trend of the past.

Per the Academy, the standards are as follows:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department headsCasting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writerare from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film's crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film's distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film's production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
Women
Racial or ethnic group
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
Women
Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
LGBTQ+
People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/academy-announces-new-oscar-eligibility-standards-diversity-inclusion-requirements/

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Intersection means at least two roads. I gave you Woman Avenue. What else have you got to support your claim about Nomadland?

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Your constant attempts to absurdly parse terms or concepts when you are clearly wrong is tiresome. Feel free to look up what the term means, if you need a refresher. The Oscar rules I posted comport precisely with the term and the film fits neatly into multiple intersectional categories required. Just stop. This isn't a winning argument for you.

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How does this film fit neatly into "multiple intersectional categories"? I spotted you a female lead, now tell me what multiple additions you see.

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I think if you would just do some minimal reading about the film, and if you're able to execute basic level thinking, then it'll come to you.

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I saw the film, you didn't, and you think you've noticed some intersectionality that is obvious with basic level thinking?

Do tell, as Canon will not.

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Why don't you first tell us what you would accept as a conceptual definition of "intersectionality" as it relates to a film? Might help us avoid your inevitable word games and usual bobbin' and weavin'.

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Canon brought it up, you didn't say squat. Now you are saying with basic level thinking I should be able to spot it; you did, without even watching the movie. If it's not hard why are you the one bobbing and weaving in tandem with Canon?

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Both of us have already answered it. You're either too stupid, lazy, or full of yourself to bother reading and incorporating it into your brain. If, rather, you're trying to play your usual games, then I need to know the terms of your game, so answer my question.

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Neither of you have attempted an answer. It's not my game.

In fact, choose your own definition of intersectionality and then tell me where in the film you see it happening.

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My first post in this thread.

You can not be this dense, can you?

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He says he's a lawyer

Need to judge them on a lower scale to be fair, bud