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It is private property and people still feel entitled. I thought the theme of feeling entitled to other peoples property was just a democrat idea. It has infested the republicans too. Stealing the fruit of another mans labor is so unbecoming.

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It is private property with rules. The rules happen to be both the platform's rules--which the platform does not uniformly apply--and society's rules, which allow the platform to exist without being sued into oblivion. Since society has granted the platform special dispensation for speech to allow the platform to survive and the dispensation was given to the platform based on the assumption that the platform would be a "free market for ideas and speech," then the platform needs to both (a) be an open platform for ideas and speech and (b) uniformly apply its own rules provided they are consistent with promoting and allowing a free market for ideas and speech.

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It is private property and people still feel entitled. I thought the theme of feeling entitled to other peoples property was just a democrat idea. It has infested the republicans too. Stealing the fruit of another mans labor is so unbecoming.

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You have gone way out in the weeds here, my friend. What the heck are you talking about? Did you post this on the right thread?

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It is private property and people still feel entitled. I thought the theme of feeling entitled to other peoples property was just a democrat idea. It has infested the republicans too. Stealing the fruit of another mans labor is so unbecoming.

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Keep things they way they are and it ends in disaster LIQR.

Every single year the list of online speech rules grow and there's no diversity in the market. They tried to start up multiple social media sites and they were attacked. They also turn into bubbles. There is no future where twitter is replaced by a more fair twitter.

I expect even this website or any political forum to cease to exist after Big Tech reins in hosting sites for "extremist breeding grounds".

I dont care about where democrats are. I just think a man should be able to run his business. It seems strange to hear "conservatives" calling for more regulation and begging for the government to run a private business.


Carlos, I have lookedfor this. Have a link?


Since society has granted the platform special dispensation for speech to allow the platform to survive and the dispensation was given to the platform based on the assumption that the platform would be a "free market for ideas and speech,"

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I dont care about where democrats are. I just think a man should be able to run his business. It seems strange to hear "conservatives" calling for more regulation and begging for the government to run a private business.

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I will call for less government. Repeal Sec. 230 and let Twitter and FB do what they want and play by the same rules as any other publisher.

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Exactly. Government created this problem and they should rescind.

So lets just let the government determine private businesses'' product.? I know China does that but didnt think rred blooded Americans would be asking for the same.

This isnt a freedom of speech issue. You can say or write anything you want.

China puts limits on what can, cant be and must be included on the social sites.

I believe the right thinks they should be able to say whatever they want and the owners of the private business should be forced to provide them service. They want to take away the private business' right to control their product. Its like forcing HEB to sell doodoo sandwiches. The producers have no right to demand a business carries their product.

Capitalism allows businesses to choose their products and sell what they think will give them the most profit. Communism/socialism seizes private property, calls them utilities and takes over. The ability to spew is not the same think as electricity, sanitation or water.

The funniest thing is so many people that complain with their mouths keep supporting them with their actions. I have never tweeted, got banned from Facebook but admit I still use Google.

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I believe the right thinks they should be able to say whatever they want and the owners of the private business should be forced to provide them service.

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No one who has paid attention to this debate would actually believe that claim.

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If y'all are sick of Trump now, get ready to be a lot sicker by 2024. It's not just the left keeping him in the news. Republicans are at war with each other over leadership of the party. Predictable result of the Senate's cowardice in failing to repudiate him once and for all.

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Translation to English: Some of Trump's policies resonated with lots of people, and are winning tactics for the next couple elections. This worries the Left.

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I'll leave it to you to speak for the left. I know some of his policies resonated with me.

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If you can admit that some of Trump's policies resonated with you, then you should be able to understand why Trump is still relevant to GOP plans even in elections where Trump himself is not running.

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It's not an "admission." I openly supported him most of the time he was in office.

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More like 20-25% of the time, as I recall.

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Some posters do misuse their time by spending it with family instead of jumping into a circle jerk to say "Praise him!" for the fifty-third time.

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Well, no one ever sat on their deathbed and thought, "I wish I would have spent more time with my family."

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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If y'all are sick of Trump now, get ready to be a lot sicker by 2024. It's not just the left keeping him in the news. Republicans are at war with each other over leadership of the party. Predictable result of the Senate's cowardice in failing to repudiate him once and for all.

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Translation to English: Some of Trump's policies resonated with lots of people, and are winning tactics for the next couple elections. This worries the Left.

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I'll leave it to you to speak for the left. I know some of his policies resonated with me.

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If you can admit that some of Trump's policies resonated with you, then you should be able to understand why Trump is still relevant to GOP plans even in elections where Trump himself is not running.

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It's not an "admission." I openly supported him most of the time he was in office.

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More like 20-25% of the time, as I recall.

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Some posters do misuse their time by spending it with family instead of jumping into a circle jerk to say "Praise him!" for the fifty-third time.

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Thanks for bringing up Obama, but he is not the topic here.

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I believe the right thinks they should be able to say whatever they want and the owners of the private business should be forced to provide them service. They want to take away the private business' right to control their product. Its like forcing HEB to sell doodoo sandwiches. The producers have no right to demand a business carries their product.

Capitalism allows businesses to choose their products and sell what they think will give them the most profit. Communism/socialism seizes private property, calls them utilities and takes over. The ability to spew is not the same think as electricity, sanitation or water.

The funniest thing is so many people that complain with their mouths keep supporting them with their actions. I have never tweeted, got banned from Facebook but admit I still use Google.

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No one is asking the gov't to step and make twitter and facebook do anything. We're screaming that they need to do away with section 230 protections.

Either you're too stupid to see it or too dishonest to accept or both.

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I believe the right thinks they should be able to say whatever they want and the owners of the private business should be forced to provide them service. They want to take away the private business' right to control their product. Its like forcing HEB to sell doodoo sandwiches. The producers have no right to demand a business carries their product.

Capitalism allows businesses to choose their products and sell what they think will give them the most profit. Communism/socialism seizes private property, calls them utilities and takes over. The ability to spew is not the same think as electricity, sanitation or water.

The funniest thing is so many people that complain with their mouths keep supporting them with their actions. I have never tweeted, got banned from Facebook but admit I still use Google.

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No one is asking the gov't to step and make twitter and facebook do anything. We're screaming that they need to do away with section 230 protections.

Either you're too stupid to see it or too dishonest to accept or both.

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Does the argument "If you dont think like I do you must be stupid or dishonest or both" work often for you?

i guess you are right and I am wrong while twitter makes more and more money. How many of you still tweet?

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I believe the right thinks they should be able to say whatever they want and the owners of the private business should be forced to provide them service. They want to take away the private business' right to control their product. Its like forcing HEB to sell doodoo sandwiches. The producers have no right to demand a business carries their product.

Capitalism allows businesses to choose their products and sell what they think will give them the most profit. Communism/socialism seizes private property, calls them utilities and takes over. The ability to spew is not the same think as electricity, sanitation or water.

The funniest thing is so many people that complain with their mouths keep supporting them with their actions. I have never tweeted, got banned from Facebook but admit I still use Google.

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No one is asking the gov't to step and make twitter and facebook do anything. We're screaming that they need to do away with section 230 protections.

Either you're too stupid to see it or too dishonest to accept or both.

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130 years ago, these guys would have told us it was madness to break up the railroad barons.

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Amazing to see how many people completely miss that point. The companies in question are monopolies in flagrant violation of anti-trust laws.

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MySpace sez Hi from Netscape.

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I believe the right thinks they should be able to say whatever they want and the owners of the private business should be forced to provide them service. They want to take away the private business' right to control their product. Its like forcing HEB to sell doodoo sandwiches. The producers have no right to demand a business carries their product.

Capitalism allows businesses to choose their products and sell what they think will give them the most profit. Communism/socialism seizes private property, calls them utilities and takes over. The ability to spew is not the same think as electricity, sanitation or water.

The funniest thing is so many people that complain with their mouths keep supporting them with their actions. I have never tweeted, got banned from Facebook but admit I still use Google.

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No one is asking the gov't to step and make twitter and facebook do anything. We're screaming that they need to do away with section 230 protections.

Either you're too stupid to see it or too dishonest to accept or both.

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130 years ago, these guys would have told us it was madness to break up the railroad barons.

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Amazing to see how many people completely miss that point. The companies in question are monopolies in flagrant violation of anti-trust laws.

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MySpace sez Hi from Netscape.

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You might want to look up who wiped out those ventures, and what options were left to the public.

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You might want to show me the day innovation quit happening.

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Honestly haven't heard much from him since Twitter banned him. It has been very refreshing. He ended up being the biggest cancer to the conservative movement in decades. And the competition for that title is fierce.

Hope he enjoys his McDonalds and golf for his remaining years and we never hear from him again.

Not gonna happen as he is about to start his rallies again. But a guy can dream. Sigh.

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Same. He's been out of sight, out of mind since the great, and well-earned Twitter ban of 2020.

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Congrats fascist. You serve your comrades well!!

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First, I realize these words have lost all meaning among 21st century "conservatives," who throw them at everyone who disagrees with their Trumpian worldview, but you cannot be both a fascist and a socialist/Marxist. They are literally competing ideologies.

Second, I am neither.

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Rawhide said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I believe the right thinks they should be able to say whatever they want and the owners of the private business should be forced to provide them service. They want to take away the private business' right to control their product. Its like forcing HEB to sell doodoo sandwiches. The producers have no right to demand a business carries their product.

Capitalism allows businesses to choose their products and sell what they think will give them the most profit. Communism/socialism seizes private property, calls them utilities and takes over. The ability to spew is not the same think as electricity, sanitation or water.

The funniest thing is so many people that complain with their mouths keep supporting them with their actions. I have never tweeted, got banned from Facebook but admit I still use Google.

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No one is asking the gov't to step and make twitter and facebook do anything. We're screaming that they need to do away with section 230 protections.

Either you're too stupid to see it or too dishonest to accept or both.

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130 years ago, these guys would have told us it was madness to break up the railroad barons.

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Amazing to see how many people completely miss that point. The companies in question are monopolies in flagrant violation of anti-trust laws.

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MySpace sez Hi from Netscape.

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You might want to look up who wiped out those ventures, and what options were left to the public.

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You might want to show me the day innovation quit happening.

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You might want to look up phrases like "bid rigging", "group boycott", "price fixing", "horizontal conduct" and "market division", which are all illegal and in many ways similar to what we see from Facebook/Google/Twitter.

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In what ways?

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Rawhide said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I believe the right thinks they should be able to say whatever they want and the owners of the private business should be forced to provide them service. They want to take away the private business' right to control their product. Its like forcing HEB to sell doodoo sandwiches. The producers have no right to demand a business carries their product.

Capitalism allows businesses to choose their products and sell what they think will give them the most profit. Communism/socialism seizes private property, calls them utilities and takes over. The ability to spew is not the same think as electricity, sanitation or water.

The funniest thing is so many people that complain with their mouths keep supporting them with their actions. I have never tweeted, got banned from Facebook but admit I still use Google.

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No one is asking the gov't to step and make twitter and facebook do anything. We're screaming that they need to do away with section 230 protections.

Either you're too stupid to see it or too dishonest to accept or both.

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130 years ago, these guys would have told us it was madness to break up the railroad barons.

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Amazing to see how many people completely miss that point. The companies in question are monopolies in flagrant violation of anti-trust laws.

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MySpace sez Hi from Netscape.

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You might want to look up who wiped out those ventures, and what options were left to the public.

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You might want to show me the day innovation quit happening.

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You might want to look up phrases like "bid rigging", "group boycott", "price fixing", "horizontal conduct" and "market division", which are all illegal and in many ways similar to what we see from Facebook/Google/Twitter.

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In what ways?

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Do your own homework for once, quash. I have shown you the landmarks.

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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quash said:

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whiterock said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Rawhide said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I believe the right thinks they should be able to say whatever they want and the owners of the private business should be forced to provide them service. They want to take away the private business' right to control their product. Its like forcing HEB to sell doodoo sandwiches. The producers have no right to demand a business carries their product.

Capitalism allows businesses to choose their products and sell what they think will give them the most profit. Communism/socialism seizes private property, calls them utilities and takes over. The ability to spew is not the same think as electricity, sanitation or water.

The funniest thing is so many people that complain with their mouths keep supporting them with their actions. I have never tweeted, got banned from Facebook but admit I still use Google.

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No one is asking the gov't to step and make twitter and facebook do anything. We're screaming that they need to do away with section 230 protections.

Either you're too stupid to see it or too dishonest to accept or both.

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130 years ago, these guys would have told us it was madness to break up the railroad barons.

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Amazing to see how many people completely miss that point. The companies in question are monopolies in flagrant violation of anti-trust laws.

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MySpace sez Hi from Netscape.

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You might want to look up who wiped out those ventures, and what options were left to the public.

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You might want to show me the day innovation quit happening.

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You might want to look up phrases like "bid rigging", "group boycott", "price fixing", "horizontal conduct" and "market division", which are all illegal and in many ways similar to what we see from Facebook/Google/Twitter.

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In what ways?

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By moderating and removing content (and the people who post it) they're taking control of the content and content providers on their websites while making editorial decisions.

This is what publishers do.

Google held a 73.1% share of the US ad tech market in 2019. Do you understand how much they can impact society?

How about we go with anti trust laws? They won't stifle economic productivity.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Rawhide said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I believe the right thinks they should be able to say whatever they want and the owners of the private business should be forced to provide them service. They want to take away the private business' right to control their product. Its like forcing HEB to sell doodoo sandwiches. The producers have no right to demand a business carries their product.

Capitalism allows businesses to choose their products and sell what they think will give them the most profit. Communism/socialism seizes private property, calls them utilities and takes over. The ability to spew is not the same think as electricity, sanitation or water.

The funniest thing is so many people that complain with their mouths keep supporting them with their actions. I have never tweeted, got banned from Facebook but admit I still use Google.

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No one is asking the gov't to step and make twitter and facebook do anything. We're screaming that they need to do away with section 230 protections.

Either you're too stupid to see it or too dishonest to accept or both.

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130 years ago, these guys would have told us it was madness to break up the railroad barons.

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Amazing to see how many people completely miss that point. The companies in question are monopolies in flagrant violation of anti-trust laws.

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MySpace sez Hi from Netscape.

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You might want to look up who wiped out those ventures, and what options were left to the public.

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You might want to show me the day innovation quit happening.

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You might want to look up phrases like "bid rigging", "group boycott", "price fixing", "horizontal conduct" and "market division", which are all illegal and in many ways similar to what we see from Facebook/Google/Twitter.

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In what ways?

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Do your own homework for once, quash. I have shown you the landmarks.

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Well see I already did and most of your list has no application here.

I understand why you choose to make your assertions someone else's homework, it's what you do.

"Well see I already did and most of your list has no application here."

Your imagination does not count as 'research', quash.

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"Well see I already did and most of your list has no application here."

Your imagination does not count as 'research', quash.

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Maybe you can explain what bids have been rigged and by whom?

Did Google and Twitter conduct a secondary boycott of a competitor? Who was it?

Or did they collude in some way?

I don't think the price of ads is fixed but maybe you know something? (Yeah, I couldn't type that one with a straight face.)

What sector did FB carve out for itself, what did they leave to Twitter or Google?

You won't answer in specifics because you just looked up some anti-trust catch words to virtue signal The MAGA Bros.

You've had way too much caffeine, quash.