Another reason Californians keep running out of the state

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10:01a, 8/1/21
From an AP story

"At the beginning of next year, California will begin enforcing an animal welfare proposition approved overwhelmingly by voters in 2018 that requires more space for breeding pigs, egg-laying chickens and veal calves. National veal and egg producers are optimistic they can meet the new standards, but only 4% of hog operations now comply with the new rules. Unless the courts intervene or the state temporarily allows non-compliant meat to be sold in the state, California will lose almost all of its pork supply, much of which comes from Iowa, and pork producers will face higher costs to regain a key market."

Who can live in a state without bacon?
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In reply to LIB,MR BEARS • 10:16a, 8/1/21
LIB,MR BEARS said:
From an AP story

"At the beginning of next year, California will begin enforcing an animal welfare proposition approved overwhelmingly by voters in 2018 that requires more space for breeding pigs, egg-laying chickens and veal calves. National veal and egg producers are optimistic they can meet the new standards, but only 4% of hog operations now comply with the new rules. Unless the courts intervene or the state temporarily allows non-compliant meat to be sold in the state, California will lose almost all of its pork supply, much of which comes from Iowa, and pork producers will face higher costs to regain a key market."

Who can live in a state without bacon?
I read in that article that Californians consume 15 percent of the nation's bacon. I gotta think there will be a huge
backlash. Just another reason for Californian's to leave.
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In reply to LIB,MR BEARS • 10:35a, 8/1/21
LIB,MR BEARS said:
From an AP story

"At the beginning of next year, California will begin enforcing an animal welfare proposition approved overwhelmingly by voters in 2018 that requires more space for breeding pigs, egg-laying chickens and veal calves. National veal and egg producers are optimistic they can meet the new standards, but only 4% of hog operations now comply with the new rules. Unless the courts intervene or the state temporarily allows non-compliant meat to be sold in the state, California will lose almost all of its pork supply, much of which comes from Iowa, and pork producers will face higher costs to regain a key market."

Who can live in a state without bacon?
Systemic racism? From the link

Kim, who is Korean-American, said she's especially worried for small restaurants whose customers can't afford big price increases and that specialize in Asian and Hispanic dishes that typically include pork.

"You know, I work and live with a lot of Asian and Hispanic populations in the city and their diet consists of pork. Pork is huge," Kim said. "It's almost like bread and butter."
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12:31p, 8/1/21
They overwhelmingly voted for it.... And it's called the free market? If there is little supply, someone will be more than happy to charge a ton of money for compliant bacon.

If you guys think California isn't worth living in, I feel bad for you. It's ridiculously beautiful.
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12:34p, 8/1/21
This is going to affect more than California, as California cannot supply it's own pork.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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In reply to quash • 1:51p, 8/1/21
quash said:
This is going to affect more than California, as California cannot supply it's own pork.
It will have an impact on Iowa hog farmers, increasing their cost which will then be passed on to all of us.
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In reply to quash • 1:59p, 8/1/21
quash said:
This is going to affect more than California, as California cannot supply it's own pork.
I'm willing to do my part by putting more bacon on more of everything.
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In reply to quash • 2:43p, 8/1/21
quash said:
This is going to affect more than California, as California cannot supply it's own pork.
They're substituting sushi and tofu for the bacon and sausage with eggs over easy
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In reply to Porteroso • 4:07p, 8/1/21
Porteroso said:
They overwhelmingly voted for it.... And it's called the free market? If there is little supply, someone will be more than happy to charge a ton of money for compliant bacon.

If you guys think California isn't worth living in, I feel bad for you. It's ridiculously beautiful.
Nobody said California isn't beautiful but it is not worth what it costs to live there and I don't like the majority of the people there.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 4:11p, 8/1/21
Osodecentx said:
LIB,MR BEARS said:
From an AP story

"At the beginning of next year, California will begin enforcing an animal welfare proposition approved overwhelmingly by voters in 2018 that requires more space for breeding pigs, egg-laying chickens and veal calves. National veal and egg producers are optimistic they can meet the new standards, but only 4% of hog operations now comply with the new rules. Unless the courts intervene or the state temporarily allows non-compliant meat to be sold in the state, California will lose almost all of its pork supply, much of which comes from Iowa, and pork producers will face higher costs to regain a key market."

Who can live in a state without bacon?
Systemic racism? From the link

Kim, who is Korean-American, said she's especially worried for small restaurants whose customers can't afford big price increases and that specialize in Asian and Hispanic dishes that typically include pork.

"You know, I work and live with a lot of Asian and Hispanic populations in the city and their diet consists of pork. Pork is huge," Kim said. "It's almost like bread and butter."
Sweet n sour tuna it is..... with a donation to dolphin rehab, though.
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4:44p, 8/1/21
Jan 18, 2022
LA Times
Lost and Found

Family pet missing
Pot Bellied pig
Answers to the name of Crispy
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4:53p, 8/1/21
Governor Larry Elder??

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In reply to Porteroso • 5:40p, 8/1/21
Porteroso said:
They overwhelmingly voted for it.... And it's called the free market? If there is little supply, someone will be more than happy to charge a ton of money for compliant bacon.

If you guys think California isn't worth living in, I feel bad for you. It's ridiculously beautiful.


Nobody ever accused Californians of being particularly bright. And voting to outlaw something is not a free market principle. Free market would be allowing the people to vote with their pocket. Those who want expensive bacon could certainly pay more if they wanted.

California is beautiful. Lived there for a couple of years after Baylor. But it's basically impossible to live in the major cities unless you're very wealthy or willing to live like a pauper. I had three jobs at one point just to pay for a 1000 square foot house I purchased with 2 others. And that was 20 years ago.

There's a reason people and businesses are leaving there in droves. Liberal policies have ruined the state.
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In reply to LIB,MR BEARS • 5:53p, 8/1/21
LIB,MR BEARS said:
quash said:
This is going to affect more than California, as California cannot supply it's own pork.
It will have an impact on Iowa hog farmers, increasing their cost which will then be passed on to all of us.


Yes, that is what I said
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In reply to quash • 7:36p, 8/1/21
quash said:
LIB,MR BEARS said:
quash said:
This is going to affect more than California, as California cannot supply it's own pork.
It will have an impact on Iowa hog farmers, increasing their cost which will then be passed on to all of us.


Yes, that is what I said
yes , you did.

See, you made a statement. I fleshed it out some. It was almost as if there were a discussion occurring.

Not everything is an argument.

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In reply to LIB,MR BEARS • 7:20p, 8/4/21
LIB,MR BEARS said:
quash said:
This is going to affect more than California, as California cannot supply it's own pork.
It will have an impact on Iowa hog farmers, increasing their cost which will then be passed on to all of us.


They don't have to sell to California.
I will sacrifice and eat 15 percent more bacon.
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In reply to Porteroso • 8:35p, 8/4/21
Porteroso said:
They overwhelmingly voted for it.... And it's called the free market? If there is little supply, someone will be more than happy to charge a ton of money for compliant bacon.

If you guys think California isn't worth living in, I feel bad for you. It's ridiculously beautiful.


Just moved here a couple of months ago. It's mostly awesome.
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In reply to Buddha Bear • 8:44p, 8/4/21
Buddha Bear said:
Porteroso said:
They overwhelmingly voted for it.... And it's called the free market? If there is little supply, someone will be more than happy to charge a ton of money for compliant bacon.

If you guys think California isn't worth living in, I feel bad for you. It's ridiculously beautiful.


Just moved here a couple of months ago. It's mostly awesome.
You must really like swimming upstream.
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In reply to D. C. Bear • 8:54p, 8/4/21
D. C. Bear said:
LIB,MR BEARS said:
quash said:
This is going to affect more than California, as California cannot supply it's own pork.
It will have an impact on Iowa hog farmers, increasing their cost which will then be passed on to all of us.


They don't have to sell to California.
I will sacrifice and eat 15 percent more bacon.
Great attitude. Way to be a team player. I hope I can make the team.
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In reply to Porteroso • 9:25p, 8/4/21
Porteroso said:


If you guys think California isn't worth living in, I feel bad for you. It's ridiculously beautiful.
The entire southern part of California is encased in a black smog 75% of the time .



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8:37a, 8/5/21
Interesting article:

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/house-hunting-fort-worth-wealthy-californian/
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In reply to Porteroso • 9:38a, 8/5/21
Porteroso said:
They overwhelmingly voted for it.... And it's called the free market? If there is little supply, someone will be more than happy to charge a ton of money for compliant bacon.

If you guys think California isn't worth living in, I feel bad for you. It's ridiculously beautiful.
That's not free market - government intervention - exactly the opposite.

California is beautiful with outstanding weather. That's the only reason it hasn't emptied out even faster. Given all of its natural advantages, it's incredible that so many people are leaving. Testament to how badly it's being run.
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In reply to Robert Wilson • 10:20a, 8/5/21
Robert Wilson said:
Porteroso said:
They overwhelmingly voted for it.... And it's called the free market? If there is little supply, someone will be more than happy to charge a ton of money for compliant bacon.

If you guys think California isn't worth living in, I feel bad for you. It's ridiculously beautiful.
That's not free market - government intervention - exactly the opposite.

California is beautiful with outstanding weather. That's the only reason it hasn't emptied out even faster. Given all of its natural advantages, it's incredible that so many people are leaving. Testament to how badly it's being run.

Exactly the opposite. Very, very little regulation results in zero cost impact. This one will require that pigs get more room. That's not something most pork producers can do for free.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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In reply to D. C. Bear • 10:36a, 8/5/21
D. C. Bear said:
LIB,MR BEARS said:
quash said:
This is going to affect more than California, as California cannot supply it's own pork.
It will have an impact on Iowa hog farmers, increasing their cost which will then be passed on to all of us.


They don't have to sell to California.
I will sacrifice and eat 15 percent more bacon.
The Christians response
I'll follow your example
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In reply to quash • 10:49a, 8/5/21
quash said:
Robert Wilson said:
Porteroso said:
They overwhelmingly voted for it.... And it's called the free market? If there is little supply, someone will be more than happy to charge a ton of money for compliant bacon.

If you guys think California isn't worth living in, I feel bad for you. It's ridiculously beautiful.
That's not free market - government intervention - exactly the opposite.

California is beautiful with outstanding weather. That's the only reason it hasn't emptied out even faster. Given all of its natural advantages, it's incredible that so many people are leaving. Testament to how badly it's being run.

Exactly the opposite. Very, very little regulation results in zero cost impact. This one will require that pigs get more room. That's not something most pork producers can do for free.
The pigs will be happier as they go to the slaughter house.

Warm fuzzy replacing hot crispy
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