Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Great town. Great museum.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Cute town.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
https://gallagher.house.gov/media/columns/prepare-now-war-pacificQuote:
Prepare Now for War in the Pacific
U.S. Naval Institute
By: Rep. Mike Gallagher
July 22, 2021
When I served in the Marine Corps, I spent most of my time as far away from ships as possible in the middle of the Iraqi desert and as a Middle East expert. In what might have been the only successful pivot in recent U.S. foreign policy, since entering Congress, I have dedicated much of my focus to maritime security in the Indo-Pacific.
Since coming to Congress, I have spent a good deal of time speaking and writing on naval topics. I've had the privilege of speaking to the Surface Navy Association, CSIS, and the Naval Institute, and writing for War On the Rocks, for example. In these conversations, I have come to realize that we can no longer afford just to preach to the sea power "choir." As Admiral Phil Davidson, the former Commander, U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, recently warned, we may have six years or less before the People's Republic of China (PRC) takes action against Taiwan. Some have taken to calling this the "Davidson window." Other senior leaders, including Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Michael Gilday and Commandant of the Marine Corps General David Berger, agree with his assessment. Think about that for a minute. The United States may only have a few years to prepare for a war that could decide the course of the remainder of this century.
The United States stands no chance in a war with China in that part of the world .jupiter said:https://gallagher.house.gov/media/columns/prepare-now-war-pacificQuote:
Prepare Now for War in the Pacific
U.S. Naval Institute
By: Rep. Mike Gallagher
July 22, 2021
When I served in the Marine Corps, I spent most of my time as far away from ships as possible in the middle of the Iraqi desert and as a Middle East expert. In what might have been the only successful pivot in recent U.S. foreign policy, since entering Congress, I have dedicated much of my focus to maritime security in the Indo-Pacific.
Since coming to Congress, I have spent a good deal of time speaking and writing on naval topics. I've had the privilege of speaking to the Surface Navy Association, CSIS, and the Naval Institute, and writing for War On the Rocks, for example. In these conversations, I have come to realize that we can no longer afford just to preach to the sea power "choir." As Admiral Phil Davidson, the former Commander, U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, recently warned, we may have six years or less before the People's Republic of China (PRC) takes action against Taiwan. Some have taken to calling this the "Davidson window." Other senior leaders, including Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Michael Gilday and Commandant of the Marine Corps General David Berger, agree with his assessment. Think about that for a minute. The United States may only have a few years to prepare for a war that could decide the course of the remainder of this century.
Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
Canada2017 said:C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
Was true even during World War Two.
On his only visit home ( Los Angles ) during the war Dad was so disgusted with the attitudes of civilians he couldn't wait to return to his ship.
Told me the majority of civilians were totally clueless of the sacrifices men in the combat zones were making .
C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
Indeed. There is not that much stitching this country together. Absent moments of being galvanized by external threats, we've been in quite a bit of internal conflict most of the time. May require another major existential external threat to get us through this patch. Problem is I don't know that we've got the fortitude to deal with it.C. Jordan said:
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
I understand what you're saying, but every generation has thought the younger generation of men were wimps.Mothra said:C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
It's not the deeply divided issue that concerns me. Of course a crisis can galvanize us.
It's the fact that most men of fighting age in the U.S. today are a bunch of feminine individuals. We are not a tough lot of people. We are instead a bunch of video game playing Starbucks sipping people who've had everything handed to us and are told we should hate our country. We can't even decide if we are male or female. Sure there are exceptions - especially the rural folk - but most young men have never known hardship the way the children of the depression knew hardship.
My grandad on my moms side was storming the beaches of Normandy at the age of 17. Got captured by the Germans a few months later abs spent two years in a German stalag.
The other grandad fought in the pacific. Got shrapnel in his leg in Iwo while trying to root out a well dug in group of Japs.
No way our men today have that kind of intestinal fortitude.
C. Jordan said:Mothra said:C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
It's not the deeply divided issue that concerns me. Of course a crisis can galvanize us.
It's the fact that most men of fighting age in the U.S. today are a bunch of feminine individuals. We are not a tough lot of people. We are instead a bunch of video game playing Starbucks sipping people who've had everything handed to us and are told we should hate our country. We can't even decide if we are male or female. Sure there are exceptions - especially the rural folk - but most young men have never known hardship the way the children of the depression knew hardship.
My grandad on my moms side was storming the beaches of Normandy at the age of 17. Got captured by the Germans a few months later abs spent two years in a German stalag.
The other grandad fought in the pacific. Got shrapnel in his leg in Iwo while trying to root out a well dug in group of Japs.
No way our men today have that kind of intestinal fortitude.
Older men in the early 1940s would have said the exact thing you're saying about younger men today.
Obviously, you weren't alive at the time or weren't paying attention.Canon said:Canada2017 said:C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
Was true even during World War Two.
On his only visit home ( Los Angles ) during the war Dad was so disgusted with the attitudes of civilians he couldn't wait to return to his ship.
Told me the majority of civilians were totally clueless of the sacrifices men in the combat zones were making .
By Vietnam, Walter Cronkite and his ilk had filled that ignorant void with a 'baby killer' narrative and was turning US victories like the Tet offensive into losses.
I'm concerned too. Part of the problem is that news networks and social media amplify our differences. When you poll people about their opinions on specific issues, you find that they're not far apart.Robert Wilson said:Indeed. There is not that much stitching this country together. Absent moments of being galvanized by external threats, we've been in quite a bit of internal conflict most of the time. May require another major existential external threat to get us through this patch. Problem is I don't know that we've got the fortitude to deal with it.C. Jordan said:
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
I actually agree with this. I have a young nephew and a young cousin in the Marines. I think they are outstanding and America would rally again.C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
Yea I agree, my kid is tough as hell. Though looking at him you wouldn't know it. Only 6' tall 165 lbs. much smaller than I was. But man that dude can roll you with Jujutsu or knock your ass out with a single punch, has accumulated 6 rifles now that he can assemble and disassemble quickly with ease, can camp out and survive without resources so long as a stream or tank with fish are nearby. Heck he can even bench 200+ lbs. If you were walking down the street and saw him with his floppy hair you would think, man I can kick his ass, until you took the first swing at him. Then he would do you like those wrestler boys did to the OU football players and be totally shocked with the asswhipping you were experiencing.C. Jordan said:I understand what you're saying, but every generation has thought the younger generation of men were wimps.Mothra said:C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
It's not the deeply divided issue that concerns me. Of course a crisis can galvanize us.
It's the fact that most men of fighting age in the U.S. today are a bunch of feminine individuals. We are not a tough lot of people. We are instead a bunch of video game playing Starbucks sipping people who've had everything handed to us and are told we should hate our country. We can't even decide if we are male or female. Sure there are exceptions - especially the rural folk - but most young men have never known hardship the way the children of the depression knew hardship.
My grandad on my moms side was storming the beaches of Normandy at the age of 17. Got captured by the Germans a few months later abs spent two years in a German stalag.
The other grandad fought in the pacific. Got shrapnel in his leg in Iwo while trying to root out a well dug in group of Japs.
No way our men today have that kind of intestinal fortitude.
Older men in the early 1940s would have said the exact thing you're saying about younger men today.
what a load of horse****Mothra said:C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
It's not the deeply divided issue that concerns me. Of course a crisis can galvanize us.
It's the fact that most men of fighting age in the U.S. today are a bunch of feminine individuals. We are not a tough lot of people. We are instead a bunch of video game playing Starbucks sipping people who've had everything handed to us and are told we should hate our country. We can't even decide if we are male or female. Sure there are exceptions - especially the rural folk - but most young men have never known hardship the way the children of the depression knew hardship.
My grandad on my moms side was storming the beaches of Normandy at the age of 17. Got captured by the Germans a few months later abs spent two years in a German stalag.
The other grandad fought in the pacific. Got shrapnel in his leg in Iwo while trying to root out a well dug in group of Japs.
No way our men today have that kind of intestinal fortitude.
Agree with that. Social media and 24/7 news cycles with polarized networks are killing the environment. Left to their own devices, in person people find common ground and get along well. We are just way down the rabbit hole right now re: social media and the media environment, and I don't see it turning around anytime soon.C. Jordan said:I'm concerned too. Part of the problem is that news networks and social media amplify our differences. When you poll people about their opinions on specific issues, you find that they're not far apart.Robert Wilson said:Indeed. There is not that much stitching this country together. Absent moments of being galvanized by external threats, we've been in quite a bit of internal conflict most of the time. May require another major existential external threat to get us through this patch. Problem is I don't know that we've got the fortitude to deal with it.C. Jordan said:
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
Sadly, polls show that the more people consume news, the more distorted their views of "the other side."
Canon said:Canada2017 said:C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
Was true even during World War Two.
On his only visit home ( Los Angles ) during the war Dad was so disgusted with the attitudes of civilians he couldn't wait to return to his ship.
Told me the majority of civilians were totally clueless of the sacrifices men in the combat zones were making .
By Vietnam, Walter Cronkite and his ilk had filled that ignorant void with a 'baby killer' narrative and was turning US victories like the Tet offensive into losses.
bularry said:what a load of horse****Mothra said:C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
It's not the deeply divided issue that concerns me. Of course a crisis can galvanize us.
It's the fact that most men of fighting age in the U.S. today are a bunch of feminine individuals. We are not a tough lot of people. We are instead a bunch of video game playing Starbucks sipping people who've had everything handed to us and are told we should hate our country. We can't even decide if we are male or female. Sure there are exceptions - especially the rural folk - but most young men have never known hardship the way the children of the depression knew hardship.
My grandad on my moms side was storming the beaches of Normandy at the age of 17. Got captured by the Germans a few months later abs spent two years in a German stalag.
The other grandad fought in the pacific. Got shrapnel in his leg in Iwo while trying to root out a well dug in group of Japs.
No way our men today have that kind of intestinal fortitude.
Canada2017 said:bularry said:what a load of horse****Mothra said:C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
It's not the deeply divided issue that concerns me. Of course a crisis can galvanize us.
It's the fact that most men of fighting age in the U.S. today are a bunch of feminine individuals. We are not a tough lot of people. We are instead a bunch of video game playing Starbucks sipping people who've had everything handed to us and are told we should hate our country. We can't even decide if we are male or female. Sure there are exceptions - especially the rural folk - but most young men have never known hardship the way the children of the depression knew hardship.
My grandad on my moms side was storming the beaches of Normandy at the age of 17. Got captured by the Germans a few months later abs spent two years in a German stalag.
The other grandad fought in the pacific. Got shrapnel in his leg in Iwo while trying to root out a well dug in group of Japs.
No way our men today have that kind of intestinal fortitude.
No it's not .
Just imagine the inevitable rioting if the US government reinstated the DRAFT for any reason .
There is not a single cause that even 65% of US military aged individuals would be willing to risk their lives for .
It was the same back in the day. When my dad was scooped up right after college and sent overseas in WW2, there weren't many wanting to go to war.Canada2017 said:bularry said:what a load of horse****Mothra said:C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
It's not the deeply divided issue that concerns me. Of course a crisis can galvanize us.
It's the fact that most men of fighting age in the U.S. today are a bunch of feminine individuals. We are not a tough lot of people. We are instead a bunch of video game playing Starbucks sipping people who've had everything handed to us and are told we should hate our country. We can't even decide if we are male or female. Sure there are exceptions - especially the rural folk - but most young men have never known hardship the way the children of the depression knew hardship.
My grandad on my moms side was storming the beaches of Normandy at the age of 17. Got captured by the Germans a few months later abs spent two years in a German stalag.
The other grandad fought in the pacific. Got shrapnel in his leg in Iwo while trying to root out a well dug in group of Japs.
No way our men today have that kind of intestinal fortitude.
No it's not .
Just imagine the inevitable rioting if the US government reinstated the DRAFT for any reason .
There is not a single cause that even 65% of US military aged individuals would be willing to risk their lives for .
But their biological warfare program is apparently top-notch.BornAgain said:
I know several Naval pilots who do not think that way. They say China is immobile and not the threat the media makes out them out to be. That we are stationed better strategically.
bularry said:what a load of horse****Mothra said:C. Jordan said:I think we could. We were deeply divided in 1941 about many things, including involvement in the war.Booray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Pearl Harbor kind of brought things into clarity!
We think there was some magical time in the past when we were all together and united. We've known brief moments of that, like after 9/11. But by and large we've been in constant struggle with each other.
It's not the deeply divided issue that concerns me. Of course a crisis can galvanize us.
It's the fact that most men of fighting age in the U.S. today are a bunch of feminine individuals. We are not a tough lot of people. We are instead a bunch of video game playing Starbucks sipping people who've had everything handed to us and are told we should hate our country. We can't even decide if we are male or female. Sure there are exceptions - especially the rural folk - but most young men have never known hardship the way the children of the depression knew hardship.
My grandad on my moms side was storming the beaches of Normandy at the age of 17. Got captured by the Germans a few months later abs spent two years in a German stalag.
The other grandad fought in the pacific. Got shrapnel in his leg in Iwo while trying to root out a well dug in group of Japs.
No way our men today have that kind of intestinal fortitude.
Naturally naval aviators would fight....they are trained ( cocky ) professionals .BornAgain said:
I know several Naval pilots who do not think that way. They say China is immobile and not the threat the media makes out them out to be. That we are stationed better strategically.
Moved to Fred in 1996 from Houston and have never looked backBooray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
Got to attend the grand opening of the museum and hear from Papa Bush. I believe the ticket to get in is good for two days so you can actually get a chance to see everything it has. Truly remarkable to have a world class museum in a little town like Fred. Thankyou Adm. Nimitz 
Really is world class. Nimitz was a remarkable man.Shakesbear said:Moved to Fred in 1996 from Houston and have never looked backBooray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
My ancestors on my mom's side were a part of the first German families to settle in the area, and I have a relative that was the town's first mayor. Great, great, great grandad has the oldest plot in the old cemetery. Grew up going to family reunions there, and exploring the Willow City Loop (before everyone else knew about it). It's a special place for me and my family as well.Shakesbear said:Moved to Fred in 1996 from Houston and have never looked backBooray said:
Spent the day in Fredericksburg. Took in the Museum of the War in the Pacific.
Just awesome, highly recommend it.
Wonder if we could respond to that sort of challenge today.
