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trey3216
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Waco1947 said:

Canada2017 said:

Waco1947 said:

Canada2017 said:

Waco1947 said:

The USA is a terrific country. We have opportunities galore and we are an attractive country. People beyond our borders are young, healthy, hard workers, anle to endure really tough times, and eager to learn and be educated. Any employer would want this worker.
People are attracted to Syria or Somalia. How does a nation control its attractiveness. Make ourselves less attractive? Hardly.
Yet here they come who fault is that surge?
You remain totally clueless on the ramifications involved.

If the United States doesn't protect the integrity of its borders and existing immigration laws.........TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal immigrants will continue to flood into our country .

The vast majority of whom are under educated, lack even basic employable skills, and do not speak English .

The vast majority of these people are simply not employable . So who is going to pay for medical care, shelter, and food for these millions for the next few years ? You ?

It is physically IMPOSSIBLE.....it is financially IMPOSSIBLE ....to absorb the tens of millions of central and south Americans who would enter the United States if allowed to do so.

How can you consistently fail to grasp such an obvious reality ?


Your straw man is wrong. I understand reality. I raised a question if the reality "Here they come" then my question is how do we manage it?

No strawman....reality just bounces off of your forehead.

Here is the list still again ......

We manage it by enforcing EXISTING immigration laws.
We manage it by ending all FREE social services for illegals .Wrong
We manage it by finishing the wall. Have you been to the border from New Mexico to the Rio Grande?
We manage it by FINING employers who hire illegals....such laws already exist .
We manage it by expanding the Border Patrol
Which federal public benefits are available to undocumented immigrants?
In general, undocumented immigrants, meaning people from other countries who do not have a legal right to be in the United States, are not eligible for any federal public benefits.
However, there are instances where undocumented immigrants, including those under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, may be eligible for some benefits that are considered necessary to protect life or guarantee safety in extreme circumstances.
Those include:

  • Emergency medical treatment under Medicaid if the individual meets the other eligibility requirements and the medical condition is not related to an organ transplant procedure.
  • Immunizations for immunizable diseases and testing for and treatment of symptoms of communicable diseases.
  • Free public education for grades K-12.
  • Federally subsidized school lunch and school breakfast programs for those eligible for free public education under state or local law.
Undocumented immigrants in some cases may also be allowed services or assistance that were laid out in a 2001 U.S. Attorney General order.
That order included child and adult protective services; programs addressing weather emergencies and homelessness; shelters, soup kitchens and meals delivered to individuals; medical, public health and mental health services; disability or substance abuse services necessary to protect life or safety; and programs to protect workers and other community members.

Which state benefits are available to undocumented immigrants?
As with the federal government, state and local governments ban unauthorized immigrants from many assistance programs as well as the ability to get government contracts, licenses, grants and loans.
However, they are eligible for other state benefits such as:
  • Treatment for emergency conditions (other than those related to an organ transplant)
  • Short-term, in-kind emergency disaster relief
  • Immunization against immunizable diseases and testing for and treatment of symptoms of communicable diseases.
Pregnant women and nursing mothers are generally eligible for benefits under the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women-Infants-Children (WIC).
WIC provides federal grants to states for supplemental food, health care referrals and nutrition education for low-income pregnant, breastfeeding and non-breastfeeding postpartum women, and to infants and children up to age five who are found to be at nutritional risk.
If an undocumented immigrant gives birth to a child in the United States, that child could be enrolled in Medicaid to get health care, but the undocumented parents could not. Medicaid is funded by the federal government and administered by the state. The child would be allowed in the program because children born in the U.S. to undocumented parents become U.S. citizens at birth.
Twenty-five states have programs that provide health care for low-income immigrant children lawfully living in the United States. Six states California, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, New York and Massachusetts, along with the District of Columbia provide Medicaid to children regardless of immigration status.
Those states do not get federal Medicaid matching funds to help pay for that cost. The states that provide Medicaid to immigrant children with legal residency do get federal funds to help pay for the cost of the care.


That's some expensive ass **** right there.
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Waco1947
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Wangchung said:

Waco1947 said:

Wangchung said:

Waco1947 said:

Wangchung said:

Waco1947 said:

The USA is a terrific country. We have opportunities galore and we are an attractive country. People beyond our borders are young, healthy, hard workers, anle to endure really tough times, and eager to learn and be educated. Any employer would want this worker.
People are attracted to Syria or Somalia. How does a nation control its attractiveness. Make ourselves less attractive? Hardly.
Yet here they come who fault is that surge?
It's the fault of the jackass promising them free services and free access that caused the surge. The world is not entitled to live in America.
You have no evidence for your claim they are excluded from Federal help.
You have no evidence for your claim that the world is entitled
to live in America.
I did not say anyone was "entitled."
Its just the theme behind your every comment on illegals and the idea behind your alleged charity at the border.
"alleged charities!" What are they?
"The theme behind your every comment?" What are you saying? Are these simply stories you create about me?
Wangchung
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Waco1947 said:

Wangchung said:

Waco1947 said:

Wangchung said:

Waco1947 said:

Wangchung said:

Waco1947 said:

The USA is a terrific country. We have opportunities galore and we are an attractive country. People beyond our borders are young, healthy, hard workers, anle to endure really tough times, and eager to learn and be educated. Any employer would want this worker.
People are attracted to Syria or Somalia. How does a nation control its attractiveness. Make ourselves less attractive? Hardly.
Yet here they come who fault is that surge?
It's the fault of the jackass promising them free services and free access that caused the surge. The world is not entitled to live in America.
You have no evidence for your claim they are excluded from Federal help.
You have no evidence for your claim that the world is entitled
to live in America.
I did not say anyone was "entitled."
Its just the theme behind your every comment on illegals and the idea behind your alleged charity at the border.
"alleged charities!" What are they?
"The theme behind your every comment?" What are you saying? Are these simply stories you create about me?
You need your eyes checked, my friend. Read it again, then compare it to your statements here in this thread.
Jacques Strap
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Osodecentx
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Canada2017 said:

Rawhide said:

Wangchung said:

Jacques Strap said:

#FJB


Quote:

"I don't think anyone could look at those photos and think that was appropriate action or behavior or something that should be accepted within our administration. There's an investigation. That's ongoing. We'll let that play out. But our reaction to the photos has not changed."



Like the Jan 6th peaceful protest, democrats will react to the narrative they've created rather than facts. No whips? We will claim they beat them with reins. Witnesses say no reins were used as whips? We will claim we are still investigating but still condemn the optics and keep up the narrative.
Dems love to claim that they're the party of science, they sure aren't the party of facts.
Why should they be ?


Biden's election proved facts are unimportant .

Controlling the narrative is all that matters .
Sometimes falling feels like flying ,,, for a little while
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Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

Rawhide said:

Wangchung said:

Jacques Strap said:

#FJB


Quote:

"I don't think anyone could look at those photos and think that was appropriate action or behavior or something that should be accepted within our administration. There's an investigation. That's ongoing. We'll let that play out. But our reaction to the photos has not changed."



Like the Jan 6th peaceful protest, democrats will react to the narrative they've created rather than facts. No whips? We will claim they beat them with reins. Witnesses say no reins were used as whips? We will claim we are still investigating but still condemn the optics and keep up the narrative.
Dems love to claim that they're the party of science, they sure aren't the party of facts.
Why should they be ?


Biden's election proved facts are unimportant .

Controlling the narrative is all that matters .
Sometimes falling feels like flying ,,, for a little while
Don't know what's going to finally ignite the first massive push back.

Out of pure habit in supporting 'law and order' most Republicans and yuppies will condemn these initial freedom fighters. These patriots will be hung out to dry.

But then Harris is going to push too hard. She won't be able to do anything else....her hatred of Anglo culture is too strong.

Then a 2nd pushback is going to be far more wide spread . Ex military types will lead it . Will go on for years .

US version of the Spanish Civil War .
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Man, if only we could synthesize viral resistance from fact resistance.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Waco1947
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trey3216 said:

Waco1947 said:

Canada2017 said:

Waco1947 said:

Canada2017 said:

Waco1947 said:

The USA is a terrific country. We have opportunities galore and we are an attractive country. People beyond our borders are young, healthy, hard workers, anle to endure really tough times, and eager to learn and be educated. Any employer would want this worker.
People are attracted to Syria or Somalia. How does a nation control its attractiveness. Make ourselves less attractive? Hardly.
Yet here they come who fault is that surge?
You remain totally clueless on the ramifications involved.

If the United States doesn't protect the integrity of its borders and existing immigration laws.........TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal immigrants will continue to flood into our country .

The vast majority of whom are under educated, lack even basic employable skills, and do not speak English .

The vast majority of these people are simply not employable . So who is going to pay for medical care, shelter, and food for these millions for the next few years ? You ?

It is physically IMPOSSIBLE.....it is financially IMPOSSIBLE ....to absorb the tens of millions of central and south Americans who would enter the United States if allowed to do so.

How can you consistently fail to grasp such an obvious reality ?


Your straw man is wrong. I understand reality. I raised a question if the reality "Here they come" then my question is how do we manage it?

No strawman....reality just bounces off of your forehead.

Here is the list still again ......

We manage it by enforcing EXISTING immigration laws.
We manage it by ending all FREE social services for illegals .Wrong
We manage it by finishing the wall. Have you been to the border from New Mexico to the Rio Grande?
We manage it by FINING employers who hire illegals....such laws already exist .
We manage it by expanding the Border Patrol
Which federal public benefits are available to undocumented immigrants?
In general, undocumented immigrants, meaning people from other countries who do not have a legal right to be in the United States, are not eligible for any federal public benefits.
However, there are instances where undocumented immigrants, including those under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, may be eligible for some benefits that are considered necessary to protect life or guarantee safety in extreme circumstances.
Those include:

  • Emergency medical treatment under Medicaid if the individual meets the other eligibility requirements and the medical condition is not related to an organ transplant procedure.
  • Immunizations for immunizable diseases and testing for and treatment of symptoms of communicable diseases.
  • Free public education for grades K-12.
  • Federally subsidized school lunch and school breakfast programs for those eligible for free public education under state or local law.
Undocumented immigrants in some cases may also be allowed services or assistance that were laid out in a 2001 U.S. Attorney General order.
That order included child and adult protective services; programs addressing weather emergencies and homelessness; shelters, soup kitchens and meals delivered to individuals; medical, public health and mental health services; disability or substance abuse services necessary to protect life or safety; and programs to protect workers and other community members.

Which state benefits are available to undocumented immigrants?
As with the federal government, state and local governments ban unauthorized immigrants from many assistance programs as well as the ability to get government contracts, licenses, grants and loans.
However, they are eligible for other state benefits such as:
  • Treatment for emergency conditions (other than those related to an organ transplant)
  • Short-term, in-kind emergency disaster relief
  • Immunization against immunizable diseases and testing for and treatment of symptoms of communicable diseases.
Pregnant women and nursing mothers are generally eligible for benefits under the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women-Infants-Children (WIC).
WIC provides federal grants to states for supplemental food, health care referrals and nutrition education for low-income pregnant, breastfeeding and non-breastfeeding postpartum women, and to infants and children up to age five who are found to be at nutritional risk.
If an undocumented immigrant gives birth to a child in the United States, that child could be enrolled in Medicaid to get health care, but the undocumented parents could not. Medicaid is funded by the federal government and administered by the state. The child would be allowed in the program because children born in the U.S. to undocumented parents become U.S. citizens at birth.
Twenty-five states have programs that provide health care for low-income immigrant children lawfully living in the United States. Six states California, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, New York and Massachusetts, along with the District of Columbia provide Medicaid to children regardless of immigration status.
Those states do not get federal Medicaid matching funds to help pay for that cost. The states that provide Medicaid to immigrant children with legal residency do get federal funds to help pay for the cost of the care.


That's some expensive ass **** right there
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What?
trey3216
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Waco1947 said:

trey3216 said:

Waco1947 said:

Canada2017 said:

Waco1947 said:

Canada2017 said:

Waco1947 said:

The USA is a terrific country. We have opportunities galore and we are an attractive country. People beyond our borders are young, healthy, hard workers, anle to endure really tough times, and eager to learn and be educated. Any employer would want this worker.
People are attracted to Syria or Somalia. How does a nation control its attractiveness. Make ourselves less attractive? Hardly.
Yet here they come who fault is that surge?
You remain totally clueless on the ramifications involved.

If the United States doesn't protect the integrity of its borders and existing immigration laws.........TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal immigrants will continue to flood into our country .

The vast majority of whom are under educated, lack even basic employable skills, and do not speak English .

The vast majority of these people are simply not employable . So who is going to pay for medical care, shelter, and food for these millions for the next few years ? You ?

It is physically IMPOSSIBLE.....it is financially IMPOSSIBLE ....to absorb the tens of millions of central and south Americans who would enter the United States if allowed to do so.

How can you consistently fail to grasp such an obvious reality ?


Your straw man is wrong. I understand reality. I raised a question if the reality "Here they come" then my question is how do we manage it?

No strawman....reality just bounces off of your forehead.

Here is the list still again ......

We manage it by enforcing EXISTING immigration laws.
We manage it by ending all FREE social services for illegals .Wrong
We manage it by finishing the wall. Have you been to the border from New Mexico to the Rio Grande?
We manage it by FINING employers who hire illegals....such laws already exist .
We manage it by expanding the Border Patrol
Which federal public benefits are available to undocumented immigrants?
In general, undocumented immigrants, meaning people from other countries who do not have a legal right to be in the United States, are not eligible for any federal public benefits.
However, there are instances where undocumented immigrants, including those under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, may be eligible for some benefits that are considered necessary to protect life or guarantee safety in extreme circumstances.
Those include:

  • Emergency medical treatment under Medicaid if the individual meets the other eligibility requirements and the medical condition is not related to an organ transplant procedure.
  • Immunizations for immunizable diseases and testing for and treatment of symptoms of communicable diseases.
  • Free public education for grades K-12.
  • Federally subsidized school lunch and school breakfast programs for those eligible for free public education under state or local law.
Undocumented immigrants in some cases may also be allowed services or assistance that were laid out in a 2001 U.S. Attorney General order.
That order included child and adult protective services; programs addressing weather emergencies and homelessness; shelters, soup kitchens and meals delivered to individuals; medical, public health and mental health services; disability or substance abuse services necessary to protect life or safety; and programs to protect workers and other community members.

Which state benefits are available to undocumented immigrants?
As with the federal government, state and local governments ban unauthorized immigrants from many assistance programs as well as the ability to get government contracts, licenses, grants and loans.
However, they are eligible for other state benefits such as:
  • Treatment for emergency conditions (other than those related to an organ transplant)
  • Short-term, in-kind emergency disaster relief
  • Immunization against immunizable diseases and testing for and treatment of symptoms of communicable diseases.
Pregnant women and nursing mothers are generally eligible for benefits under the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women-Infants-Children (WIC).
WIC provides federal grants to states for supplemental food, health care referrals and nutrition education for low-income pregnant, breastfeeding and non-breastfeeding postpartum women, and to infants and children up to age five who are found to be at nutritional risk.
If an undocumented immigrant gives birth to a child in the United States, that child could be enrolled in Medicaid to get health care, but the undocumented parents could not. Medicaid is funded by the federal government and administered by the state. The child would be allowed in the program because children born in the U.S. to undocumented parents become U.S. citizens at birth.
Twenty-five states have programs that provide health care for low-income immigrant children lawfully living in the United States. Six states California, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, New York and Massachusetts, along with the District of Columbia provide Medicaid to children regardless of immigration status.
Those states do not get federal Medicaid matching funds to help pay for that cost. The states that provide Medicaid to immigrant children with legal residency do get federal funds to help pay for the cost of the care.


That's some expensive ass **** right there
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What?
The stuff that can be provided....It's expensive as ****
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Jacques Strap
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DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas admits he DIDN'T expect the Delta surge at the border and says 1 in 5 migrants have an 'illness'

Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said Monday he did not expect such a surge in the Delta covid 19 variant as he admitted that the 'rate of illness' at the southern border is now 20%.

'We are confronted with a population of people that, as a general matter, that have a rate of illness of approximately 20%.'

It is not clear how the secretary came to the 20% figure, as he has long said DHS does not have the capacity to test every individual arriving at the southern border and relies on local governments and communities for help.

On Friday, Mayorkas had told reporters that he did not know how many of the nearly 17,000 once camped out under the International Bridge in Del Rio, Texas had contracted Covid-19 as DHS was not testing the migrants.

'We did not test that population of individuals,' Mayorkas said. 'We do not know, I do not know, I should say if I may be perfectly accurate, I do not know if anyone was sick with COVID. We certainly had some people get sick, not with COVID to my knowledge and we addressed their illnesses.'
trey3216
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Jacques Strap said:

DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas admits he DIDN'T expect the Delta surge at the border and says 1 in 5 migrants have an 'illness'

Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said Monday he did not expect such a surge in the Delta covid 19 variant as he admitted that the 'rate of illness' at the southern border is now 20%.

'We are confronted with a population of people that, as a general matter, that have a rate of illness of approximately 20%.'

It is not clear how the secretary came to the 20% figure, as he has long said DHS does not have the capacity to test every individual arriving at the southern border and relies on local governments and communities for help.

On Friday, Mayorkas had told reporters that he did not know how many of the nearly 17,000 once camped out under the International Bridge in Del Rio, Texas had contracted Covid-19 as DHS was not testing the migrants.

'We did not test that population of individuals,' Mayorkas said. 'We do not know, I do not know, I should say if I may be perfectly accurate, I do not know if anyone was sick with COVID. We certainly had some people get sick, not with COVID to my knowledge and we addressed their illnesses.'
willfull ignorance is not far from pure negligence
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/panamas-foreign-minister-we-warned-biden-about-haitian-migrant-crisis-60000-more-coming
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Lost in all this.......when Trump was president he forced the Mexican president to stop these caravans by threatening a 5% tariff on all Mexican imports. Remember ?

According to a Border Patrol agent I talked to along the New Mexico border. ( approx 2 years ago ) .......Mexican army troops were stationed right by the border wall in response. ( I took pictures of a couple of such troops ).

Obviously the president of Mexico is no longer stopping the approach of these caravans .

And that is 100% on the Biden administration .


Dems are not ignorant ...this is ALL intentional .


Current Dem administration and the power brokers behind them WANT open borders and the inevitable chaos associated with it.
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Very cool of these future doctors and lawyers to come here and enrich us.
quash
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muddybrazos said:




Very cool of these future doctors and lawyers to come here and enrich us.

How elitist of you.

Our country is enriched in a million ways, try talking to a stranger in another country sometime.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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There are tens of millions of desperately poor individuals throughout the Caribbean, central America and south American who wish to enter the United States.


And no country on earth can physically or financially absorb such a tidal wave of humanity .


Ludicrous to pretend otherwise .
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Canada2017 said:


There are tens of millions of desperately poor individuals throughout the Caribbean, central America and south American who wish to enter the United States.


And no country on earth can physically or financially absorb such a tidal wave of humanity .


Ludicrous to pretend otherwise .

And they would come and go, as the flow of labor used to do, if we reformed our system.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

Canada2017 said:


There are tens of millions of desperately poor individuals throughout the Caribbean, central America and south American who wish to enter the United States.


And no country on earth can physically or financially absorb such a tidal wave of humanity .


Ludicrous to pretend otherwise .

And they would come and go, as the flow of labor used to do, if we reformed our system.

I agree we need some reform.

First we need to do away with amnesty and second, take a cue from New Zealand and stop illegals from coming here to have a baby on American soil so they will become an automatic citizen. Since 2006, New Zealand has toughened up it's immigration in that regard. At least one of the parents either need to be a citizen or have a visa that allows indefinite residency.

Would be nice if the U.S.A. could get that right, at least.
Wangchung
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quash said:

muddybrazos said:




Very cool of these future doctors and lawyers to come here and enrich us.

How elitist of you.

Our country is enriched in a million ways, try talking to a stranger in another country sometime.

Exactly! Economics is TOTALLY elitist. It's pure emotion that should drive our immigration policy, not silly things like history or math. When will these xenophobes learn, amiright?
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
Canada2017
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quash said:

Canada2017 said:


There are tens of millions of desperately poor individuals throughout the Caribbean, central America and south American who wish to enter the United States.


And no country on earth can physically or financially absorb such a tidal wave of humanity .


Ludicrous to pretend otherwise .

And they would come and go, as the flow of labor used to do, if we reformed our system.



Tens of millions are not going to 'come and go'.

For the vast majority that is patiently absurd .

The vast majority won't leave the United States with its infrastructure, medical facilities, relatively just legal system and abundance of free social services …….

only to return to a life where one hopes to find enough work to survive day to day . Where violence is rampant and the perpetrators are usually unpunished.. Where even safe drinking water is often difficult to get .

The vast majority would stay . And of the millions upon millions that would soon arrive….most would be totally unemployable even in the best of times . They would have to be provided for….indefinitely.

A financial impossibility for any country.



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quash said:

muddybrazos said:




Very cool of these future doctors and lawyers to come here and enrich us.

How elitist of you.

Our country is enriched in a million ways, try talking to a stranger in another country sometime.

Why? The strangers are here already.
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
quash
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Wangchung said:

quash said:

muddybrazos said:




Very cool of these future doctors and lawyers to come here and enrich us.

How elitist of you.

Our country is enriched in a million ways, try talking to a stranger in another country sometime.

Exactly! Economics is TOTALLY elitist. It's pure emotion that should drive our immigration policy, not silly things like history or math. When will these xenophobes learn, amiright?

Economics is why we should reform our immigration policy and let workers work and employers employ. But you xenophobic statists haven't read your founding documents. Not even the Federalist Papers talk about excluding aliens.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

muddybrazos said:




Very cool of these future doctors and lawyers to come here and enrich us.

How elitist of you.

Our country is enriched in a million ways, try talking to a stranger in another country sometime.

Exactly! Economics is TOTALLY elitist. It's pure emotion that should drive our immigration policy, not silly things like history or math. When will these xenophobes learn, amiright?

Economics is why we should reform our immigration policy and let workers work and employers employ. But you xenophobic statists haven't read your founding documents. Not even the Federalist Papers talk about excluding aliens.

There we go! Emotions! Race cards! Labels of being afraid of one thing or another! Yes, no facts, no economics or references to anything other than emotion and ad hominem. You and me, bro, we think the same!
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
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Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

muddybrazos said:




Very cool of these future doctors and lawyers to come here and enrich us.

How elitist of you.

Our country is enriched in a million ways, try talking to a stranger in another country sometime.

Exactly! Economics is TOTALLY elitist. It's pure emotion that should drive our immigration policy, not silly things like history or math. When will these xenophobes learn, amiright?

Economics is why we should reform our immigration policy and let workers work and employers employ. But you xenophobic statists haven't read your founding documents. Not even the Federalist Papers talk about excluding aliens.

There we go! Emotions! Race cards! Labels of being afraid of one thing or another! Yes, no facts, no economics or references to anything other than emotion and ad hominem. You and me, bro, we think the same!

I have posted the data plenty of times, all you have to do is look at the threads I've started.

BTW: can you address the substance without going emo?
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Wangchung
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quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

muddybrazos said:




Very cool of these future doctors and lawyers to come here and enrich us.

How elitist of you.

Our country is enriched in a million ways, try talking to a stranger in another country sometime.

Exactly! Economics is TOTALLY elitist. It's pure emotion that should drive our immigration policy, not silly things like history or math. When will these xenophobes learn, amiright?

Economics is why we should reform our immigration policy and let workers work and employers employ. But you xenophobic statists haven't read your founding documents. Not even the Federalist Papers talk about excluding aliens.

There we go! Emotions! Race cards! Labels of being afraid of one thing or another! Yes, no facts, no economics or references to anything other than emotion and ad hominem. You and me, bro, we think the same!

I have posted the data plenty of times, all you have to do is look at the threads I've started.

BTW: can you address the substance without going emo?

Substance? You and I don't deal in substance, remember? Sure, no country has ever survived with open borders, but we use emotions to say they are all genuine hard workers who are better than mere lazy Americans so we can label anyone who has studied history as xenophobes or racists! We can plainly see paying people not to work doesn't work, but that's silly economics talk. Emotion tells us employers should just pay more if they want employees! 400,000 will be the mark for one month of illegal aliens entering the country and common sense would tell some folks that letting an army of destitute third world poor invade our country will have huge negative impacts, ESPECIALLY during a global pandemic, but EMOTION lets us ride with the narrative that Covid doesn't come with third world poor so we don't need to test them. Just release them and only deport the illegals who have other crimes they've committed while here and only enforce mandates against those lazy ******* xenophobic us citizens! Emotions wins the day, bro! Celebrate!
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
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Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

muddybrazos said:




Very cool of these future doctors and lawyers to come here and enrich us.

How elitist of you.

Our country is enriched in a million ways, try talking to a stranger in another country sometime.

Exactly! Economics is TOTALLY elitist. It's pure emotion that should drive our immigration policy, not silly things like history or math. When will these xenophobes learn, amiright?

Economics is why we should reform our immigration policy and let workers work and employers employ. But you xenophobic statists haven't read your founding documents. Not even the Federalist Papers talk about excluding aliens.

There we go! Emotions! Race cards! Labels of being afraid of one thing or another! Yes, no facts, no economics or references to anything other than emotion and ad hominem. You and me, bro, we think the same!

I have posted the data plenty of times, all you have to do is look at the threads I've started.

BTW: can you address the substance without going emo?

Substance? You and I don't deal in substance, remember? Sure, no country has ever survived with open borders, but we use emotions to say they are all genuine hard workers who are better than mere lazy Americans so we can label anyone who has studied history as xenophobes or racists! We can plainly see paying people not to work doesn't work, but that's silly economics talk. Emotion tells us employers should just pay more if they want employees! 400,000 will be the mark for one month of illegal aliens entering the country and common sense would tell some folks that letting an army of destitute third world poor invade our country will have huge negative impacts, ESPECIALLY during a global pandemic, but EMOTION lets us ride with the narrative that Covid doesn't come with third world poor so we don't need to test them. Just release them and only deport the illegals who have other crimes they've committed while here and only enforce mandates against those lazy ******* xenophobic us citizens! Emotions wins the day, bro! Celebrate!

My bad. I thought you could hold a conversation.
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quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

muddybrazos said:




Very cool of these future doctors and lawyers to come here and enrich us.

How elitist of you.

Our country is enriched in a million ways, try talking to a stranger in another country sometime.

Exactly! Economics is TOTALLY elitist. It's pure emotion that should drive our immigration policy, not silly things like history or math. When will these xenophobes learn, amiright?

Economics is why we should reform our immigration policy and let workers work and employers employ. But you xenophobic statists haven't read your founding documents. Not even the Federalist Papers talk about excluding aliens.

There we go! Emotions! Race cards! Labels of being afraid of one thing or another! Yes, no facts, no economics or references to anything other than emotion and ad hominem. You and me, bro, we think the same!

I have posted the data plenty of times, all you have to do is look at the threads I've started.

BTW: can you address the substance without going emo?

Substance? You and I don't deal in substance, remember? Sure, no country has ever survived with open borders, but we use emotions to say they are all genuine hard workers who are better than mere lazy Americans so we can label anyone who has studied history as xenophobes or racists! We can plainly see paying people not to work doesn't work, but that's silly economics talk. Emotion tells us employers should just pay more if they want employees! 400,000 will be the mark for one month of illegal aliens entering the country and common sense would tell some folks that letting an army of destitute third world poor invade our country will have huge negative impacts, ESPECIALLY during a global pandemic, but EMOTION lets us ride with the narrative that Covid doesn't come with third world poor so we don't need to test them. Just release them and only deport the illegals who have other crimes they've committed while here and only enforce mandates against those lazy ******* xenophobic us citizens! Emotions wins the day, bro! Celebrate!

My bad. I thought you could hold a conversation.

I know you can formulate a reasonable post when you want to, so when you make garbage posts you get garbage in return.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
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Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

muddybrazos said:




Very cool of these future doctors and lawyers to come here and enrich us.

How elitist of you.

Our country is enriched in a million ways, try talking to a stranger in another country sometime.

Exactly! Economics is TOTALLY elitist. It's pure emotion that should drive our immigration policy, not silly things like history or math. When will these xenophobes learn, amiright?

Economics is why we should reform our immigration policy and let workers work and employers employ. But you xenophobic statists haven't read your founding documents. Not even the Federalist Papers talk about excluding aliens.

There we go! Emotions! Race cards! Labels of being afraid of one thing or another! Yes, no facts, no economics or references to anything other than emotion and ad hominem. You and me, bro, we think the same!

I have posted the data plenty of times, all you have to do is look at the threads I've started.

BTW: can you address the substance without going emo?

Substance? You and I don't deal in substance, remember? Sure, no country has ever survived with open borders, but we use emotions to say they are all genuine hard workers who are better than mere lazy Americans so we can label anyone who has studied history as xenophobes or racists! We can plainly see paying people not to work doesn't work, but that's silly economics talk. Emotion tells us employers should just pay more if they want employees! 400,000 will be the mark for one month of illegal aliens entering the country and common sense would tell some folks that letting an army of destitute third world poor invade our country will have huge negative impacts, ESPECIALLY during a global pandemic, but EMOTION lets us ride with the narrative that Covid doesn't come with third world poor so we don't need to test them. Just release them and only deport the illegals who have other crimes they've committed while here and only enforce mandates against those lazy ******* xenophobic us citizens! Emotions wins the day, bro! Celebrate!

My bad. I thought you could hold a conversation.

I know you can formulate a reasonable post when you want to, so when you make garbage posts you get garbage in return.

Our country is enriched by migrant labor, we all benefit. Economically. I have started threads citing the data.

Your ball.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

muddybrazos said:




Very cool of these future doctors and lawyers to come here and enrich us.

How elitist of you.

Our country is enriched in a million ways, try talking to a stranger in another country sometime.

Exactly! Economics is TOTALLY elitist. It's pure emotion that should drive our immigration policy, not silly things like history or math. When will these xenophobes learn, amiright?

Economics is why we should reform our immigration policy and let workers work and employers employ. But you xenophobic statists haven't read your founding documents. Not even the Federalist Papers talk about excluding aliens.

There we go! Emotions! Race cards! Labels of being afraid of one thing or another! Yes, no facts, no economics or references to anything other than emotion and ad hominem. You and me, bro, we think the same!

I have posted the data plenty of times, all you have to do is look at the threads I've started.

BTW: can you address the substance without going emo?

Substance? You and I don't deal in substance, remember? Sure, no country has ever survived with open borders, but we use emotions to say they are all genuine hard workers who are better than mere lazy Americans so we can label anyone who has studied history as xenophobes or racists! We can plainly see paying people not to work doesn't work, but that's silly economics talk. Emotion tells us employers should just pay more if they want employees! 400,000 will be the mark for one month of illegal aliens entering the country and common sense would tell some folks that letting an army of destitute third world poor invade our country will have huge negative impacts, ESPECIALLY during a global pandemic, but EMOTION lets us ride with the narrative that Covid doesn't come with third world poor so we don't need to test them. Just release them and only deport the illegals who have other crimes they've committed while here and only enforce mandates against those lazy ******* xenophobic us citizens! Emotions wins the day, bro! Celebrate!

My bad. I thought you could hold a conversation.

I know you can formulate a reasonable post when you want to, so when you make garbage posts you get garbage in return.

Our country is enriched by migrant labor, we all benefit. Economically. I have started threads citing the data.

Your ball.

Our country is hurt by illegal immigration, in direct contrast to the vast benefits of legal immigration. Economically. There are multiple studies that have shown this to be true.
Back to you.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
quash
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Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

Wangchung said:

quash said:

muddybrazos said:




Very cool of these future doctors and lawyers to come here and enrich us.

How elitist of you.

Our country is enriched in a million ways, try talking to a stranger in another country sometime.

Exactly! Economics is TOTALLY elitist. It's pure emotion that should drive our immigration policy, not silly things like history or math. When will these xenophobes learn, amiright?

Economics is why we should reform our immigration policy and let workers work and employers employ. But you xenophobic statists haven't read your founding documents. Not even the Federalist Papers talk about excluding aliens.

There we go! Emotions! Race cards! Labels of being afraid of one thing or another! Yes, no facts, no economics or references to anything other than emotion and ad hominem. You and me, bro, we think the same!

I have posted the data plenty of times, all you have to do is look at the threads I've started.

BTW: can you address the substance without going emo?

Substance? You and I don't deal in substance, remember? Sure, no country has ever survived with open borders, but we use emotions to say they are all genuine hard workers who are better than mere lazy Americans so we can label anyone who has studied history as xenophobes or racists! We can plainly see paying people not to work doesn't work, but that's silly economics talk. Emotion tells us employers should just pay more if they want employees! 400,000 will be the mark for one month of illegal aliens entering the country and common sense would tell some folks that letting an army of destitute third world poor invade our country will have huge negative impacts, ESPECIALLY during a global pandemic, but EMOTION lets us ride with the narrative that Covid doesn't come with third world poor so we don't need to test them. Just release them and only deport the illegals who have other crimes they've committed while here and only enforce mandates against those lazy ******* xenophobic us citizens! Emotions wins the day, bro! Celebrate!

My bad. I thought you could hold a conversation.

I know you can formulate a reasonable post when you want to, so when you make garbage posts you get garbage in return.

Our country is enriched by migrant labor, we all benefit. Economically. I have started threads citing the data.

Your ball.

Our country is hurt by illegal immigration, in direct contrast to the vast benefits of legal immigration. Economically. There are multiple studies that have shown this to be true.
Back to you.

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