What do get when a president declares war on its' citizens?

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cowboycwr
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Thee University said:

cowboycwr said:

Thee University said:

cowboycwr said:


What a great racist and twisted view of history.

But I agree on the Floyd issue. Can't believe they build statues to a criminal but really that is no different than building ones to the criminal southerners.
How can it be racist if it is the truth?

You play the race card faster than anybody else here on 365.

I'm right and you are wrong or better yet you are left. You'll come around one day.

I'll bet you have ancestors that owned slaves.

Give me your full name and I'll have a genealogist research it for you.


Lol. I only play the race card on this thread because it fits.

I won't ever come around to the racist way of thinking that the loser confederates were anything other than losers fighting to keep slaves.

No slaves in my family history. At least not in the us. But the thing about slavery that is often forgotten is that it existed all over the world for thousands of years and every race and culture has participated in it. So by that reasoning every person has a slave owner in their ancestral line if you go back far enough.
I probably have more black friends than 95% of the 365 posters. No big deal though. I am not a racist but I am a realist. I believe the only group deserving of reparations are the American Indians.

I had in excess of 40 ancestors fighting against the Northern aggression. Of those 40 or so I find only 1 who had a slave. He brought his slave with him to Texas from Virginia in 1842 when he settled into Montgomery County. By and large my family were very poor sod busters and were more likely slaves themselves.

I believe our country is more racist and divided today than it has ever been in my 63 years and it all fell backwards and apart over the last 10 to 15 years. Prior to what I believe are intentional destructive actions by a select few groups in the past 10 years or so, our country saw very little racism. We need leadership in DC. We don't have it.
On your last paragraph we can agree. The media has made the country more racist. Everything is a racist issue. Look at the Gruden situation. Several of the things he wrote in those emails were not racist... describing someone as having big lips is not racist. It is a facial description. But the media turns it into race.

A criminal gets shot while shooting at police... and it is a race issue.

Then you have the universities fueling it even more by creating groups e4xclusively for minorities and whites are not allowed. Or going backwards and creating segregation in the student housing, cafeterias, etc.

MLK would be ashamed at what is going on after all he fought to accomplish
Canada2017
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Thee University said:

cowboycwr said:

Thee University said:

cowboycwr said:


What a great racist and twisted view of history.

But I agree on the Floyd issue. Can't believe they build statues to a criminal but really that is no different than building ones to the criminal southerners.
How can it be racist if it is the truth?

You play the race card faster than anybody else here on 365.

I'm right and you are wrong or better yet you are left. You'll come around one day.

I'll bet you have ancestors that owned slaves.

Give me your full name and I'll have a genealogist research it for you.


Lol. I only play the race card on this thread because it fits.

I won't ever come around to the racist way of thinking that the loser confederates were anything other than losers fighting to keep slaves.

No slaves in my family history. At least not in the us. But the thing about slavery that is often forgotten is that it existed all over the world for thousands of years and every race and culture has participated in it. So by that reasoning every person has a slave owner in their ancestral line if you go back far enough.
I believe the only group deserving of reparations are the American Indians.
Decades ago I feft the same way . Then I realized land and resources have always been fought over.

Indians were killing and mutilating each over for hundreds of years before the white man ever showed up.

Different only in that the winning tribes slaughtered or enslaved the losing tribes.....no 'reservations' allowed.

After visiting over 20 Indian reservations west of the Mississippi River I can assure you that 'reparations' ( both public and private ) have been continually paid for decades . Some tribes are better off with all the freebies..........most aren't .
Thee University
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Canada2017 said:


After visiting over 20 Indian reservations west of the Mississippi River I can assure you that 'reparations' ( both public and private ) have been continually paid for decades . Some tribes are better off with all the freebies..........most aren't .
Can you talk a little bit more concerning exactly how reparations have been paid for decades?
"The education of a man is never completed until he dies." - General Robert E. Lee
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Thee University said:

Canada2017 said:


After visiting over 20 Indian reservations west of the Mississippi River I can assure you that 'reparations' ( both public and private ) have been continually paid for decades . Some tribes are better off with all the freebies..........most aren't .
Can you talk a little bit more concerning exactly how reparations have been paid for decades?
Casinos. They practically own the state of Oklahoma. The tax advantages they receive in the acquisition of real estate over the evil Columbus descendants have made them almost unstoppable and untouchable.
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Canada2017
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Thee University said:

Canada2017 said:


After visiting over 20 Indian reservations west of the Mississippi River I can assure you that 'reparations' ( both public and private ) have been continually paid for decades . Some tribes are better off with all the freebies..........most aren't .
Can you talk a little bit more concerning exactly how reparations have been paid for decades?
The Bureau of Indian Affairs and the federal government in general have been dumping billions of dollars into Indian Reservations for years.

Church groups have been donating money, supplies and labor ( even to the point of building entre neighborhoods of single family homes ) .

The results have been mixed ( and that is putting it nicely ).

No need whatsoever for more reparations to anyone .

Whiskey Pete
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Canada2017 said:

Thee University said:

cowboycwr said:

Thee University said:

cowboycwr said:


What a great racist and twisted view of history.

But I agree on the Floyd issue. Can't believe they build statues to a criminal but really that is no different than building ones to the criminal southerners.
How can it be racist if it is the truth?

You play the race card faster than anybody else here on 365.

I'm right and you are wrong or better yet you are left. You'll come around one day.

I'll bet you have ancestors that owned slaves.

Give me your full name and I'll have a genealogist research it for you.


Lol. I only play the race card on this thread because it fits.

I won't ever come around to the racist way of thinking that the loser confederates were anything other than losers fighting to keep slaves.

No slaves in my family history. At least not in the us. But the thing about slavery that is often forgotten is that it existed all over the world for thousands of years and every race and culture has participated in it. So by that reasoning every person has a slave owner in their ancestral line if you go back far enough.
I believe the only group deserving of reparations are the American Indians.
Decades ago I feft the same way . Then I realized land and resources have always been fought over.

Indians were killing and mutilating each over for hundreds of years before the white man ever showed up.

Different only in that the winning tribes slaughtered or enslaved the losing tribes.....no 'reservations' allowed.

After visiting over 20 Indian reservations west of the Mississippi River I can assure you that 'reparations' ( both public and private ) have been continually paid for decades . Some tribes are better off with all the freebies..........most aren't .
Reparations for anyone today for anything that is generations removed, is ridiculous.
Thee University
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Canada2017 said:

Thee University said:

Canada2017 said:


After visiting over 20 Indian reservations west of the Mississippi River I can assure you that 'reparations' ( both public and private ) have been continually paid for decades . Some tribes are better off with all the freebies..........most aren't .
Can you talk a little bit more concerning exactly how reparations have been paid for decades?
The Bureau of Indian Affairs and the federal government in general have been dumping billions of dollars into Indian Reservations for years.

Church groups have been donating money, supplies and labor ( even to the point of building entre neighborhoods of single family homes ) .

The results have been mixed ( and that is putting it nicely ).

No need whatsoever for more reparations to anyone .


After World War II, Congress created the Indian Claims Commission to pay compensation to any federally recognized tribe for land that had been seized by the United States.

The group's mission was complicated by a paucity of written records, difficulties in putting a value on the land for its agricultural productivity or religious significance, and problems with determining boundaries and ownership from decades, or more than a century, earlier.

The results were disappointing for Native Americans. The commission paid out about $1.3 billion, the equivalent of less than $1,000 for each Native American in the United States at the time the commission dissolved in 1978.

"On one level, it was remarkable," said Melody McCoy, a lawyer for the Native American Rights Fund, a nonprofit group that has represented tribes in hundreds of major cases. "Congress listened to the claims of tribal leaders." But, Ms. McCoy said, the government took a paternalistic view, and kept Native Americans from having direct control of the funds, in the belief they were not "competent to receive such large amounts of money."

"They did not make those awards, whether it was $200 million, $20 million or $20,000 they held that money in trust accounts," she said.

A separate agreement, struck with Congress in 1971, led to the biggest award $962 million worth of land in Alaska, some 44 million acres in return for Indians, Eskimos and Aleuts relinquishing their aboriginal claims to the rest of the state.

Once again, the compensation was not awarded directly; instead, the land was put in the control of corporations, and the beneficiaries were given shares of stock in them.

The truth is that Native Americans do not receive monthly checks from the federal government, although many think they should. The United States does not pay reparations to indigenous people as a way of saying "I'm sorry" for centuries of genocide, land theft, and disease outbreaks.
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Canada2017
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Thee University said:

Canada2017 said:

Thee University said:

Canada2017 said:


After visiting over 20 Indian reservations west of the Mississippi River I can assure you that 'reparations' ( both public and private ) have been continually paid for decades . Some tribes are better off with all the freebies..........most aren't .
Can you talk a little bit more concerning exactly how reparations have been paid for decades?
The Bureau of Indian Affairs and the federal government in general have been dumping billions of dollars into Indian Reservations for years.

Church groups have been donating money, supplies and labor ( even to the point of building entre neighborhoods of single family homes ) .

The results have been mixed ( and that is putting it nicely ).

No need whatsoever for more reparations to anyone .




The truth is that Native Americans do not receive monthly checks from the federal government, although many think they should. The United States does not pay reparations to indigenous people as a way of saying "I'm sorry" for centuries of genocide, land theft, and disease outbreaks.
Native Americans lost their dominance over the land ...the exact same way they took it..........by force of arms .
By killing the prior occupants .

Such 'genocide' was practiced by Native Americans against other Native Americans long before the whites ever showed up.

Why do you thing the Crow Indians willingly fought with the US army against the Sioux ?

Simple...the far more numerous Sioux had been slaughtering the Crow for decades. Same with the Shoshone Indians. They continually allied themselves with the US Army against the Sioux and Cheyenne as a matter of pure survival .

The US government has paid billions to Indians over the years........millions more by private charities . The handouts should have stopped long ago .

A few reservations are decent ....the Navajo and Mescalero Apache come to mind along with all of New Mexico's Pueblo Indians . But most of the other reservations are trash heaps .

 
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