UCLA doctor 'willing to lose everything' escorted from work for refusing COVID vaccin

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https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article254829122.html

Canada2017
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I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
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Thank God we have a surplus of anesthesiologists in BidenObamaRices Merica
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Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
We woke up to a country full of morons thinking their rights are more important than society as a whole.
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clubhi said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
We woke up to a country full of morons thinking their rights are more important than society as a whole.


They are comrade.
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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What a drama queen.
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clubhi said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
We woke up to a country full of morons thinking their rights are more important than society as a whole.


"Their rights" are not "more important than society as a whole," their rights are society as a whole.
Canada2017
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clubhi said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
We woke up to a country full of morons thinking their rights are more important than society as a whole.
They are ....though DC phrases it better.
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D. C. Bear said:

clubhi said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
We woke up to a country full of morons thinking their rights are more important than society as a whole.


"Their rights" are not "more important than society as a whole," their rights are society as a whole.
Obviously this is not true. Even your small brain can list plenty of examples where we valued society over personal freedoms.
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If Medical professionals arent willing to follow Medical science, its probably a good thing they are being removed from theirs Jobs
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Osodecentx
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Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
If I am a patient of the doctor in question, do I have rights?
Does the hospital (employer) have rights to protect its legal interests?

The doctor does not have the right to impose his eccentric scientific/medical theories on patients and other employees. What, exactly, is his freedom interest under the Constitution or laws?
Canada2017
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Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
If I am a patient of the doctor in question, do I have rights?
Does the hospital (employer) have rights to protect its legal interests?

The doctor does not have the right to impose his eccentric scientific/medical theories on patients and other employees. What, exactly, is his freedom interest under the Constitution or laws?
My friend

If the government is allowed to coerce people ( already hired ) into getting inoculated with a relatively new vaccine that they have sincere concerns about ....or lose their only source of income .......an extremely dangerous precedent has been established .

And the Bill of Rights clearly violated .

Doesn't take much foresight to see a similar action in the near future with gun owners , private property owners , or Christians .

Its been done before throughout the world .

Osodecentx
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Canada2017 said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
If I am a patient of the doctor in question, do I have rights?
Does the hospital (employer) have rights to protect its legal interests?

The doctor does not have the right to impose his eccentric scientific/medical theories on patients and other employees. What, exactly, is his freedom interest under the Constitution or laws?
My friend

If the government is allowed to coerce people ( already hired ) into getting inoculated with a relatively new vaccine that they have sincere concerns about ....or lose their only source of income .......an extremely dangerous precedent has been established .

And the Bill of Rights clearly violated .

Doesn't take much foresight to see a similar action in the near future with gun owners , private property owners , or Christians .

Its been done before throughout the world .
Which of the Bill of Rights is violated?

We already require certain actions of gun owners, private property owners, & Christians.
Guns may be prohibited on any property.
Private property may be condemned and taken by government for a public use.
Christians who refuse to allow their children to receive medical treatment may lose those children.

I agree that the Biden vaccine mandate is illegal and I believe the courts will rule that way. However, an employer may require a vaccination as a condition of continued employment. That is the right of the employer, not the government.
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Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
If I am a patient of the doctor in question, do I have rights?
Does the hospital (employer) have rights to protect its legal interests?

The doctor does not have the right to impose his eccentric scientific/medical theories on patients and other employees. What, exactly, is his freedom interest under the Constitution or laws?
My friend

If the government is allowed to coerce people ( already hired ) into getting inoculated with a relatively new vaccine that they have sincere concerns about ....or lose their only source of income .......an extremely dangerous precedent has been established .

And the Bill of Rights clearly violated .

Doesn't take much foresight to see a similar action in the near future with gun owners , private property owners , or Christians .

Its been done before throughout the world .
Which of the Bill of Rights is violated?

We already require certain actions of gun owners, private property owners, & Christians.
Guns may be prohibited on any property.
Private property may be condemned and taken by government for a public use.
Christians who refuse to allow their children to receive medical treatment may lose those children.

I agree that the Biden vaccine mandate is illegal and I believe the courts will rule that way. However, an employer may require a vaccination as a condition of continued employment. That is the right of the employer, not the government.


UCLA is government, but that's not really the point. The broader issue is expansion of unchecked government power.
Osodecentx
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D. C. Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
If I am a patient of the doctor in question, do I have rights?
Does the hospital (employer) have rights to protect its legal interests?

The doctor does not have the right to impose his eccentric scientific/medical theories on patients and other employees. What, exactly, is his freedom interest under the Constitution or laws?
My friend

If the government is allowed to coerce people ( already hired ) into getting inoculated with a relatively new vaccine that they have sincere concerns about ....or lose their only source of income .......an extremely dangerous precedent has been established .

And the Bill of Rights clearly violated .

Doesn't take much foresight to see a similar action in the near future with gun owners , private property owners , or Christians .

Its been done before throughout the world .
Which of the Bill of Rights is violated?

We already require certain actions of gun owners, private property owners, & Christians.
Guns may be prohibited on any property.
Private property may be condemned and taken by government for a public use.
Christians who refuse to allow their children to receive medical treatment may lose those children.

I agree that the Biden vaccine mandate is illegal and I believe the courts will rule that way. However, an employer may require a vaccination as a condition of continued employment. That is the right of the employer, not the government.


UCLA is government, but that's not really the point. The broader issue is expansion of unchecked government power.
A government employer (hospital) can't require a vaccine?
Public schools do it, military does it, federal government does it (federal employees) cities can impose it on municipal employees.

Unchecked? The Biden vaccine mandate is in court and government mandate will lose. The voters can turn the *******s out.

Citizens don't have unchecked power. They can't impose eccentric scientific/medical theories on anyone they choose. They can't impose eccentric religious practices on society.
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Osodecentx said:

D. C. Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
If I am a patient of the doctor in question, do I have rights?
Does the hospital (employer) have rights to protect its legal interests?

The doctor does not have the right to impose his eccentric scientific/medical theories on patients and other employees. What, exactly, is his freedom interest under the Constitution or laws?
My friend

If the government is allowed to coerce people ( already hired ) into getting inoculated with a relatively new vaccine that they have sincere concerns about ....or lose their only source of income .......an extremely dangerous precedent has been established .

And the Bill of Rights clearly violated .

Doesn't take much foresight to see a similar action in the near future with gun owners , private property owners , or Christians .

Its been done before throughout the world .
Which of the Bill of Rights is violated?

We already require certain actions of gun owners, private property owners, & Christians.
Guns may be prohibited on any property.
Private property may be condemned and taken by government for a public use.
Christians who refuse to allow their children to receive medical treatment may lose those children.

I agree that the Biden vaccine mandate is illegal and I believe the courts will rule that way. However, an employer may require a vaccination as a condition of continued employment. That is the right of the employer, not the government.


UCLA is government, but that's not really the point. The broader issue is expansion of unchecked government power.
A government employer (hospital) can't require a vaccine?
Public schools do it, military does it, federal government does it (federal employees) cities can impose it on municipal employees.

Unchecked? The Biden vaccine mandate is in court and government mandate will lose. The voters can turn the *******s out.

Citizens don't have unchecked power. They can't impose centric scientific/medical theories on anyone they choose. They can't impose eccentric religious practices on society.
To answer your earlier question ........in my opinion such executive orders violate Articles 9 and 10 of the Bill of Rights .

Another point I believe many people are missing.......this mandate is impacting employees ALREADY hired .
Which is a far different than imposing new rules for prospective employees. As a life long former employer ....I have no problem with any requirement for NEW employees.

If the government mandate's loss in court is a foregone conclusion ........it was a cynically dishonest action on the part of the Biden administration to begin with . And tens of thousands of hard working people will be adversely affected.

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Osodecentx said:

D. C. Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
If I am a patient of the doctor in question, do I have rights?
Does the hospital (employer) have rights to protect its legal interests?

The doctor does not have the right to impose his eccentric scientific/medical theories on patients and other employees. What, exactly, is his freedom interest under the Constitution or laws?
My friend

If the government is allowed to coerce people ( already hired ) into getting inoculated with a relatively new vaccine that they have sincere concerns about ....or lose their only source of income .......an extremely dangerous precedent has been established .

And the Bill of Rights clearly violated .

Doesn't take much foresight to see a similar action in the near future with gun owners , private property owners , or Christians .

Its been done before throughout the world .
Which of the Bill of Rights is violated?

We already require certain actions of gun owners, private property owners, & Christians.
Guns may be prohibited on any property.
Private property may be condemned and taken by government for a public use.
Christians who refuse to allow their children to receive medical treatment may lose those children.

I agree that the Biden vaccine mandate is illegal and I believe the courts will rule that way. However, an employer may require a vaccination as a condition of continued employment. That is the right of the employer, not the government.


UCLA is government, but that's not really the point. The broader issue is expansion of unchecked government power.
A government employer (hospital) can't require a vaccine?
Public schools do it, military does it, federal government does it (federal employees) cities can impose it on municipal employees.

Unchecked? The Biden vaccine mandate is in court and government mandate will lose. The voters can turn the *******s out.

Citizens don't have unchecked power. They can't impose centric scientific/medical theories on anyone they choose. They can't impose eccentric religious practices on society.


Not specific to hospitals or vaccines, but broader principles involved. When government can rule unchecked by emergency decree, it stops being government and starts being tyranny.

Emoticon is inadvertent.
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Any job where you need to make contact with the ill, the immunocompromised, obviously your employer should be requiring vaccination, and not only for covid.

But it's a fair point that Biden should not have done this unilaterally, just as Trump, Obama, Bush etc. tried many of things that were not within their purview, but supposedly up to Congress.
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Canada2017 said:

Osodecentx said:

D. C. Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
If I am a patient of the doctor in question, do I have rights?
Does the hospital (employer) have rights to protect its legal interests?

The doctor does not have the right to impose his eccentric scientific/medical theories on patients and other employees. What, exactly, is his freedom interest under the Constitution or laws?
My friend

If the government is allowed to coerce people ( already hired ) into getting inoculated with a relatively new vaccine that they have sincere concerns about ....or lose their only source of income .......an extremely dangerous precedent has been established .

And the Bill of Rights clearly violated .

Doesn't take much foresight to see a similar action in the near future with gun owners , private property owners , or Christians .

Its been done before throughout the world .
Which of the Bill of Rights is violated?

We already require certain actions of gun owners, private property owners, & Christians.
Guns may be prohibited on any property.
Private property may be condemned and taken by government for a public use.
Christians who refuse to allow their children to receive medical treatment may lose those children.

I agree that the Biden vaccine mandate is illegal and I believe the courts will rule that way. However, an employer may require a vaccination as a condition of continued employment. That is the right of the employer, not the government.


UCLA is government, but that's not really the point. The broader issue is expansion of unchecked government power.
A government employer (hospital) can't require a vaccine?
Public schools do it, military does it, federal government does it (federal employees) cities can impose it on municipal employees.

Unchecked? The Biden vaccine mandate is in court and government mandate will lose. The voters can turn the *******s out.

Citizens don't have unchecked power. They can't impose centric scientific/medical theories on anyone they choose. They can't impose eccentric religious practices on society.
To answer your earlier question ........in my opinion such executive orders violate Articles 9 and 10 of the Bill of Rights .

If the government mandate's loss in court is a foregone conclusion ........it was a cynically dishonest action on the part of the Biden administration to begin with . And tens of thousands of hard working people will be adversely affected.
I'm not seeing the violation of the 9th or 10th Amendments. I'm ready to learn though.

Absolutely cynically dishonest action by the Administration. Now, we are discussing two different mandates; the Biden mandate on private employers and the employers mandating that employees be mandated. The first is, in my opinion, illegal. The 2nd is legal, but we can talk about whether it should be done.
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D. C. Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

D. C. Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
If I am a patient of the doctor in question, do I have rights?
Does the hospital (employer) have rights to protect its legal interests?

The doctor does not have the right to impose his eccentric scientific/medical theories on patients and other employees. What, exactly, is his freedom interest under the Constitution or laws?
My friend

If the government is allowed to coerce people ( already hired ) into getting inoculated with a relatively new vaccine that they have sincere concerns about ....or lose their only source of income .......an extremely dangerous precedent has been established .

And the Bill of Rights clearly violated .

Doesn't take much foresight to see a similar action in the near future with gun owners , private property owners , or Christians .

Its been done before throughout the world .
Which of the Bill of Rights is violated?

We already require certain actions of gun owners, private property owners, & Christians.
Guns may be prohibited on any property.
Private property may be condemned and taken by government for a public use.
Christians who refuse to allow their children to receive medical treatment may lose those children.

I agree that the Biden vaccine mandate is illegal and I believe the courts will rule that way. However, an employer may require a vaccination as a condition of continued employment. That is the right of the employer, not the government.


UCLA is government, but that's not really the point. The broader issue is expansion of unchecked government power.
A government employer (hospital) can't require a vaccine?
Public schools do it, military does it, federal government does it (federal employees) cities can impose it on municipal employees.

Unchecked? The Biden vaccine mandate is in court and government mandate will lose. The voters can turn the *******s out.

Citizens don't have unchecked power. They can't impose centric scientific/medical theories on anyone they choose. They can't impose eccentric religious practices on society.


Not specific to hospitals or vaccines, but broader principles involved. When government can rule unchecked by emergency decree, it stops being government and starts being tyranny.

Emoticon is inadvertent.
What government is ruling by emergency decree? UCLA (state actor) or Biden mandate on private employers?

What about Abbott mandate profiting masks & Michigan governor mandating them? Both are emergency decrees mandating action of public schools. In both cases it seems like the local governments are better situated to make those decisions.
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Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

Osodecentx said:

D. C. Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
If I am a patient of the doctor in question, do I have rights?
Does the hospital (employer) have rights to protect its legal interests?

The doctor does not have the right to impose his eccentric scientific/medical theories on patients and other employees. What, exactly, is his freedom interest under the Constitution or laws?
My friend

If the government is allowed to coerce people ( already hired ) into getting inoculated with a relatively new vaccine that they have sincere concerns about ....or lose their only source of income .......an extremely dangerous precedent has been established .

And the Bill of Rights clearly violated .

Doesn't take much foresight to see a similar action in the near future with gun owners , private property owners , or Christians .

Its been done before throughout the world .
Which of the Bill of Rights is violated?

We already require certain actions of gun owners, private property owners, & Christians.
Guns may be prohibited on any property.
Private property may be condemned and taken by government for a public use.
Christians who refuse to allow their children to receive medical treatment may lose those children.

I agree that the Biden vaccine mandate is illegal and I believe the courts will rule that way. However, an employer may require a vaccination as a condition of continued employment. That is the right of the employer, not the government.


UCLA is government, but that's not really the point. The broader issue is expansion of unchecked government power.
A government employer (hospital) can't require a vaccine?
Public schools do it, military does it, federal government does it (federal employees) cities can impose it on municipal employees.

Unchecked? The Biden vaccine mandate is in court and government mandate will lose. The voters can turn the *******s out.

Citizens don't have unchecked power. They can't impose centric scientific/medical theories on anyone they choose. They can't impose eccentric religious practices on society.
To answer your earlier question ........in my opinion such executive orders violate Articles 9 and 10 of the Bill of Rights .

If the government mandate's loss in court is a foregone conclusion ........it was a cynically dishonest action on the part of the Biden administration to begin with . And tens of thousands of hard working people will be adversely affected.
I'm not seeing the violation of the 9th or 10th Amendments. I'm ready to learn though.

Absolutely cynically dishonest action by the Administration. Now, we are discussing two different mandates; the Biden mandate on private employers and the employers mandating that employees be mandated. The first is, in my opinion, illegal. The 2nd is legal, but we can talk about whether it should be done.
Many employers were coerced into their employee mandates because they were sub contractors on various work projects of the federal government .

Son # 2 is probably going to lose his corporate management position by the end of the year because he won't get vaccinated. A talented computer analyst ( they just gave him a 10k bonus ) he has stacks of cash in the bank and in all likelihood would enjoy the time off.

Most people don't have such circumstances .

Again, change the rules for NEW employees......don't have a problem with it .

Established employees should be 'grandfathered'.

Otherwise what is the NEXT federal coercion going to involve ?
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Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
If I am a patient of the doctor in question, do I have rights?
Does the hospital (employer) have rights to protect its legal interests?

The doctor does not have the right to impose his eccentric scientific/medical theories on patients and other employees. What, exactly, is his freedom interest under the Constitution or laws?
My friend

If the government is allowed to coerce people ( already hired ) into getting inoculated with a relatively new vaccine that they have sincere concerns about ....or lose their only source of income .......an extremely dangerous precedent has been established .

And the Bill of Rights clearly violated .

Doesn't take much foresight to see a similar action in the near future with gun owners , private property owners , or Christians .

Its been done before throughout the world .
Which of the Bill of Rights is violated?

We already require certain actions of gun owners, private property owners, & Christians.
Guns may be prohibited on any property.
Private property may be condemned and taken by government for a public use.
Christians who refuse to allow their children to receive medical treatment may lose those children.

I agree that the Biden vaccine mandate is illegal and I believe the courts will rule that way. However, an employer may require a vaccination as a condition of continued employment. That is the right of the employer, not the government.


Check what, for example, airlines are doing. Their employees (of what you would say is a private business) have been deemed government contractors.

Be vaxed or fired on 12/8.

Btw, moderna vax banned in a few more countries this last week. We're not talking hell hole Type countries either
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Freedomb3ar said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

Osodecentx said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
If I am a patient of the doctor in question, do I have rights?
Does the hospital (employer) have rights to protect its legal interests?

The doctor does not have the right to impose his eccentric scientific/medical theories on patients and other employees. What, exactly, is his freedom interest under the Constitution or laws?
My friend

If the government is allowed to coerce people ( already hired ) into getting inoculated with a relatively new vaccine that they have sincere concerns about ....or lose their only source of income .......an extremely dangerous precedent has been established .

And the Bill of Rights clearly violated .

Doesn't take much foresight to see a similar action in the near future with gun owners , private property owners , or Christians .

Its been done before throughout the world .
Which of the Bill of Rights is violated?

We already require certain actions of gun owners, private property owners, & Christians.
Guns may be prohibited on any property.
Private property may be condemned and taken by government for a public use.
Christians who refuse to allow their children to receive medical treatment may lose those children.

I agree that the Biden vaccine mandate is illegal and I believe the courts will rule that way. However, an employer may require a vaccination as a condition of continued employment. That is the right of the employer, not the government.

Btw, moderna vax banned in a few more countries this last week. We're not talking hell hole Type countries either
If you don't post a link, it didn't happen
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There are hundreds of people like this.. this is what you are fighting. This vax was used as a political tool.

The mandates are political tools. Govt funding requires compliance. Look to see who is complying and who gets govt funds. Healthcare(check), airlines(check), govt contractors like L3 in waco(check)..
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cms186 said:

If Medical professionals arent willing to follow Medical science, its probably a good thing they are being removed from theirs Jobs
Funny how many people with no medical experience or credentials count their opinion above that of practicing doctors.
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4th and Inches said:

There are hundreds of people like this.. this is what you are fighting. This vax was used as a political tool.

The mandates are political tools. Govt funding requires compliance. Look to see who is complying and who gets govt funds. Healthcare(check), airlines(check), govt contractors like L3 in waco(check)..



I'll take Madame Vice President for $500, Alex
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Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

If Medical professionals arent willing to follow Medical science, its probably a good thing they are being removed from theirs Jobs
Funny how many people with no medical experience or credentials count their opinion above that of practicing doctors.
I completely agree, mainly with regard to all these unvaccinated people who refuse to take the vaccine or wear a mask when asked to because they've "done their own research" (which amounts to a few google clicks, a dodgy Youtube video and natterings with a few local nutjobs)
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clubhi said:

D. C. Bear said:

clubhi said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
We woke up to a country full of morons thinking their rights are more important than society as a whole.


"Their rights" are not "more important than society as a whole," their rights are society as a whole.
Obviously this is not true. Even your small brain can list plenty of examples where we valued society over personal freedoms.
The same ppl who support the Texas abortion law making medical decisions for women about abortion are also screaming blooding murder about vaccine requirements when the stated purpose of both of those mandates is to save lives. Go figure.
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J.B.Katz said:

clubhi said:

D. C. Bear said:

clubhi said:

Canada2017 said:

I hope people...vaccinated and unvaccinated....finally wake up and see the broader implications here.

These government bureaucrats are destroying our freedoms.

This **** goes way beyond Covid .
We woke up to a country full of morons thinking their rights are more important than society as a whole.


"Their rights" are not "more important than society as a whole," their rights are society as a whole.
Obviously this is not true. Even your small brain can list plenty of examples where we valued society over personal freedoms.
The same ppl who support the Texas abortion law making medical decisions for women about abortion are also screaming blooding murder about vaccine requirements when the stated purpose of both of those mandates is to save lives. Go figure.
They are supporting making medical decisions for babies. Go figure.
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cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

If Medical professionals arent willing to follow Medical science, its probably a good thing they are being removed from theirs Jobs
Funny how many people with no medical experience or credentials count their opinion above that of practicing doctors.
I completely agree, mainly with regard to all these unvaccinated people who refuse to take the vaccine or wear a mask when asked to because they've "done their own research" (which amounts to a few google clicks, a dodgy Youtube video and natterings with a few local nutjobs)
Nice duck, Imma call you Daffy from now on.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Osodecentx
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Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

If Medical professionals arent willing to follow Medical science, its probably a good thing they are being removed from theirs Jobs
Funny how many people with no medical experience or credentials count their opinion above that of practicing doctors.
I completely agree, mainly with regard to all these unvaccinated people who refuse to take the vaccine or wear a mask when asked to because they've "done their own research" (which amounts to a few google clicks, a dodgy Youtube video and natterings with a few local nutjobs)
Nice duck, Imma call you Daffy from now on.
Just out of curiosity, what is your medical experience (your experience, not a relative's)?
Oldbear83
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Osodecentx said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

If Medical professionals arent willing to follow Medical science, its probably a good thing they are being removed from theirs Jobs
Funny how many people with no medical experience or credentials count their opinion above that of practicing doctors.
I completely agree, mainly with regard to all these unvaccinated people who refuse to take the vaccine or wear a mask when asked to because they've "done their own research" (which amounts to a few google clicks, a dodgy Youtube video and natterings with a few local nutjobs)
Nice duck, Imma call you Daffy from now on.
Just out of curiosity, what is your medical experience (your experience, not a relative's)?
I worked as a third-party health insurance claims administrator for seven years, which included diagnosis and treatment training at Houston-area medical facilities.

You?
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Harrison Bergeron
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I does not seem to be unreasonable to ask health care workers to get vaccinated.
Oldbear83
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Harrison Bergeron said:

I does not seem to be unreasonable to ask health care workers to get vaccinated.
Even those who had the virus already, and who therefore have far more antibodies already than the vaccine could offer?
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cms186
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Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

If Medical professionals arent willing to follow Medical science, its probably a good thing they are being removed from theirs Jobs
Funny how many people with no medical experience or credentials count their opinion above that of practicing doctors.
I completely agree, mainly with regard to all these unvaccinated people who refuse to take the vaccine or wear a mask when asked to because they've "done their own research" (which amounts to a few google clicks, a dodgy Youtube video and natterings with a few local nutjobs)
Nice duck, Imma call you Daffy from now on.
just using your argument against you
I'm the English Guy
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