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Mack Rhoades extremely positive that Baylor will land in a good place

August 17, 2021
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Baylor Director of Athletics Mack Rhoades discusses the NCAA ruling against Baylor Athletics, the current state of the Big 12 Conference, and more.

 
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Mack Rhoades extremely positive that Baylor will land in a good place

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blackie said:

Certainly glad that people who actually know what they are doing, have the facts, and knows how this really works are in charge. That is all I'll say in response. One thing for sure. If Texas and OU actually leave before 2025 and we add no one, we are not eligible for a conference championship game and thus likely not eligible for the CFP regardless of how many games you win. There also might be a clause in the contract that if we don't play a championship game, it has ramifications on the media money we get prior to 2025.

Once again, glad that smarter people than some of what I have seen on this board are handling this.


Indeed.
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Swart Dra said:

Bear8084 said:

Swart Dra said:

Bear8084 said:

Swart Dra said:

Stay at 8, try to get membership with someone later, find a few teams that don't like where they are in a few years.

There are some proud programs that are not going to like any of this, ark, neb, Colorado, and others.

If Big 12 brings in anyone, BU's days of big sports are numbered.


Baylor's big sports will be fine. The Big 12 has to add the right teams and stabilize and start rebuilding it's brand. As stated before, staying at 8 would be the worst decision and would most definitely put us in the AAC.
If the Big 12 adds from the AAC they will be the AAC.


Not really. Big 12, even without OUT, has more clout than the AAC when it comes to conferences. You add BYU and some of the best schools from AAC. That would stabilize the Big 12 and then we can move forward. Staying at 8 is suicide. There is no time to wait to see if this long shot dream of P5 schools becoming mad and leaving their conferences for the Big 12 happens. None will do that, especially to a Big 12 still sitting at 8 and not stable.


Nope.

If you add any school that brings in less rev that the average of the remaining 8, you hurt the conference.

Period.

Better to stay at 8 than bring in anyone who's doesn't bring in more than the average.

BYU is the only one out there that isn't affiliated with another conference.

You sit.

You wait.

You don't add anyone that doesn't increase the average.


Ncaa FB is about a 64 piece pie.

The pie doesn't get bigger, the slices just get smaller.


You hurt the conference by not expanding and staying at 8. In fact you do more than hurt, you kill it. This pipe dream of other P5 schools joining is just that, a pipe dream. You expand, you build the brand again, and then try to renegotiate TV contracts in 2025. Staying at 8 is nothing but an unstable mess ripe to collapse.
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Bear8084 said:

Swart Dra said:

Bear8084 said:

Swart Dra said:

Bear8084 said:

Swart Dra said:

Stay at 8, try to get membership with someone later, find a few teams that don't like where they are in a few years.

There are some proud programs that are not going to like any of this, ark, neb, Colorado, and others.

If Big 12 brings in anyone, BU's days of big sports are numbered.


Baylor's big sports will be fine. The Big 12 has to add the right teams and stabilize and start rebuilding it's brand. As stated before, staying at 8 would be the worst decision and would most definitely put us in the AAC.
If the Big 12 adds from the AAC they will be the AAC.


Not really. Big 12, even without OUT, has more clout than the AAC when it comes to conferences. You add BYU and some of the best schools from AAC. That would stabilize the Big 12 and then we can move forward. Staying at 8 is suicide. There is no time to wait to see if this long shot dream of P5 schools becoming mad and leaving their conferences for the Big 12 happens. None will do that, especially to a Big 12 still sitting at 8 and not stable.


Nope.

If you add any school that brings in less rev that the average of the remaining 8, you hurt the conference.

Period.

Better to stay at 8 than bring in anyone who's doesn't bring in more than the average.

BYU is the only one out there that isn't affiliated with another conference.

You sit.

You wait.

You don't add anyone that doesn't increase the average.


Ncaa FB is about a 64 piece pie.

The pie doesn't get bigger, the slices just get smaller.


You hurt the conference by not expanding and staying at 8. In fact you do more than hurt, you kill it. This pipe dream of other P5 schools joining is just that, a pipe dream. You expand, you build the brand again, and then try to renegotiate TV contracts in 2025. Staying at 8 is nothing but an unstable mess ripe to collapse.


Sorry bro, you're just flat out wrong on this one.
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Swart Dra said:

Bear8084 said:

Swart Dra said:

Bear8084 said:

Swart Dra said:

Bear8084 said:

Swart Dra said:

Stay at 8, try to get membership with someone later, find a few teams that don't like where they are in a few years.

There are some proud programs that are not going to like any of this, ark, neb, Colorado, and others.

If Big 12 brings in anyone, BU's days of big sports are numbered.


Baylor's big sports will be fine. The Big 12 has to add the right teams and stabilize and start rebuilding it's brand. As stated before, staying at 8 would be the worst decision and would most definitely put us in the AAC.
If the Big 12 adds from the AAC they will be the AAC.


Not really. Big 12, even without OUT, has more clout than the AAC when it comes to conferences. You add BYU and some of the best schools from AAC. That would stabilize the Big 12 and then we can move forward. Staying at 8 is suicide. There is no time to wait to see if this long shot dream of P5 schools becoming mad and leaving their conferences for the Big 12 happens. None will do that, especially to a Big 12 still sitting at 8 and not stable.


Nope.

If you add any school that brings in less rev that the average of the remaining 8, you hurt the conference.

Period.

Better to stay at 8 than bring in anyone who's doesn't bring in more than the average.

BYU is the only one out there that isn't affiliated with another conference.

You sit.

You wait.

You don't add anyone that doesn't increase the average.


Ncaa FB is about a 64 piece pie.

The pie doesn't get bigger, the slices just get smaller.


You hurt the conference by not expanding and staying at 8. In fact you do more than hurt, you kill it. This pipe dream of other P5 schools joining is just that, a pipe dream. You expand, you build the brand again, and then try to renegotiate TV contracts in 2025. Staying at 8 is nothing but an unstable mess ripe to collapse.


Sorry bro, you're just flat out wrong on this one.


As others have backed me up on why it is important to expand now...not really. Along with multiple news outlets reporting on why it is important to expand now.

But keep dreaming a P5 school(s) are walking through that door to an 8 team conference that could get shut out of the CFP for not having a Conference Championship game and could be perceived as weak to do anything about it. The Big 12 is most likely expanding with potentially BYU and the best schools left out of the AAC and MWC, and it will be better for us and for it in the long run.
Robert Wilson
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Schools are not static. They can get better if you put them in a better environment.
Realitybites
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The problem with service academies is that you never get any credit for beating them, and sink your entire season if they happen to pull an upset...which they do on a somewhat regular basis. There's no upside there.

UH, UCF, USF, Cincy.

Then see where things stand. That plants major recruiting flags in Florida, gets eyeballs in that part of the country, and solidifies WVU's presence in the conference as well as adding some good programs.

BYU, it just doesn't work geographically.
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AD Rhodes will not be at Baylor 2 seasons from now, so what he does right now is paramount to Baylor's ultimate future. I just hope there is (extremely) strong oversight by someone/body on what he can and cannot sign Baylor up for.
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Bear8084 said:

Swart Dra said:

Bear8084 said:

Swart Dra said:

Bear8084 said:

Swart Dra said:

Bear8084 said:

Swart Dra said:

Stay at 8, try to get membership with someone later, find a few teams that don't like where they are in a few years.

There are some proud programs that are not going to like any of this, ark, neb, Colorado, and others.

If Big 12 brings in anyone, BU's days of big sports are numbered.


Baylor's big sports will be fine. The Big 12 has to add the right teams and stabilize and start rebuilding it's brand. As stated before, staying at 8 would be the worst decision and would most definitely put us in the AAC.
If the Big 12 adds from the AAC they will be the AAC.


Not really. Big 12, even without OUT, has more clout than the AAC when it comes to conferences. You add BYU and some of the best schools from AAC. That would stabilize the Big 12 and then we can move forward. Staying at 8 is suicide. There is no time to wait to see if this long shot dream of P5 schools becoming mad and leaving their conferences for the Big 12 happens. None will do that, especially to a Big 12 still sitting at 8 and not stable.


Nope.

If you add any school that brings in less rev that the average of the remaining 8, you hurt the conference.

Period.

Better to stay at 8 than bring in anyone who's doesn't bring in more than the average.

BYU is the only one out there that isn't affiliated with another conference.

You sit.

You wait.

You don't add anyone that doesn't increase the average.


Ncaa FB is about a 64 piece pie.

The pie doesn't get bigger, the slices just get smaller.


You hurt the conference by not expanding and staying at 8. In fact you do more than hurt, you kill it. This pipe dream of other P5 schools joining is just that, a pipe dream. You expand, you build the brand again, and then try to renegotiate TV contracts in 2025. Staying at 8 is nothing but an unstable mess ripe to collapse.


Sorry bro, you're just flat out wrong on this one.


As others have backed me up on why it is important to expand now...not really. Along with multiple news outlets reporting on why it is important to expand now.

But keep dreaming a P5 school(s) are walking through that door to an 8 team conference that could get shut out of the CFP for not having a Conference Championship game and could seem lost to do anything about it. The Big 12 is most likely expanding with potentially BYU and the best schools left out of the AAC and MWC, and it will be better for us and for it in the long run.


With the right 2-4 additions here from G5, we may all actually survive by the skin of our teeth as a P5. It would be interesting if the number of P5 schools actually grows by 2-4 rather than shrinks after all right now. I bet that would also be very pleasing to the alliance.
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Robert Wilson said:

Schools are not static. They can get better if you put them in a better environment.


Or hire a good coach. Ala BU pre-Briles vs after.
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1845_Society said:

AD Rhodes will not be at Baylor 2 seasons from now, so what he does right now is paramount to Baylor's ultimate future. I just hope there is (extremely) strong oversight by someone/body on what he can and cannot sign Baylor up for.


Why do you say this?
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Ghostrider said:

1845_Society said:

AD Rhodes will not be at Baylor 2 seasons from now, so what he does right now is paramount to Baylor's ultimate future. I just hope there is (extremely) strong oversight by someone/body on what he can and cannot sign Baylor up for.


Why do you say this?


If Big 12 adds ANY G5 teams, BU will be in a G5 conference.

MR is too good for a G5 conference.
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Ghostrider said:

Robert Wilson said:

Schools are not static. They can get better if you put them in a better environment.


Or hire a good coach. Ala BU pre-Briles vs after.


True

And the better environment makes catching a good coach more likely

Along with improved recruiting
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