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Baylor's season finale is a bittersweet tease of the future

November 25, 2017
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Baylor traveled to Fort Worth not only to play spoiler to the Horned Frogs’ but to end the season on a note that can carry over to the next season. The former was hardly accomplished, losing 45-22. But for a time, it seemed like a real possibility TCU wouldn’t punch its ticket to the Big 12 title game with storming in the first few minutes.

Ultimately, despite the this being the second largest margin of loss all season, there’s an air of comfort to close the season.

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The dead horse has been beaten long enough — but this is really at the core of everything here — that injuries have been the curse of this team. No Taylor Young meant a weaker linebacker corps that was already without Clay Johnston. The receiver issues have long been an issue, having to move players in and take some away as well. Every spot has been affected and to walk away with the single performances the underclassmen gave against TCU is a victory itself.


Charlie Brewer

Though his vigor fighting for extra yards led to a costly turn over that turned the table in TCU’s favor, impressed through-and-through. The true freshman finished with his third 300-yard game (playing just three quarters), though this time it wasn’t against Texas Tech or Kansas but the conference’s No. 1 pass defense. 

His 19-of-29 completions only dropped his season completion rate to 68.1. The only freshman the past decade with a better rate is Marcus Mariota at 68.5. Brewer came into Waco holding the national completion percentage record in high school. Now he’s proven that’s no joke of a record, he’s doing the same work here.

That said, he’s also working under incredible duress. TCU had eight sacks, six coming from Mat Boesen alone, bullying Mo Porter and the left side of the line all afternoon. That pushed Brewer out of the pocket more than normal, leading the team with 45 yards rushing, the bulk coming from a 51-yard dash, proving another dimension to his already impressive skill set.


Finding momentum in the right places

While it was not as successful as TCU’s pass rush, Baylor’s three sacks on Kenny Hill still hold some weight, especially looking at the explosive moment that led to a safety in the first minute.

Bravvion Roy was credited with taking down Hill in the end zone but it was really a group effort up front, showing what the perfectly executed blitz Phil Snow has been trying to draw up all season like he did at Temple. Freshman Jalen Pitre rushed off the right edge with Lenoy Jones Jr. at his side, tipping momentum in Baylor’s favor.

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Baylor has struggled to find that kind of momentum in the opening moments of a game all season, making this one of the more impressive and hopeful moments of the game.

While the steam generated from the opening minutes didn’t last as long as Baylor would have hoped, plays like Denzil Mims’ 50-yard grab to move into the red zone and Trestan Ebner’s 58-yard receiving TD were good omens. Except, Mims’ biggest play was axed by a controversial illegal man downfield call as was his chance at a fade pass in the end zone after the ref missed TCU pass interference. 

Momentum was taken away as soon as it was created but it’s those plays that didn’t count that still show up in the film room.

There are even more moments worth seeking like Blake Lynch coming through with the first TD and his athletic 40-yard catch that led to a missed field goal. It’s comforting to think Lynch wasn’t even supposed to be playing offense. But because of the injuries, he was making plays as a replacement like they’re routine. 

Lynch’s performance, more than his versatility or athleticism, represents what could be with a relatively healthy lineup that has players in their intended position. If this is what happens when things are out of place, there’s something bright down the road.

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Baylor's season finale is a bittersweet tease of the future

17,021 Views | 29 Replies | Last: 6 yr ago by ColomboLQ
Private Pyle
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I must have watched a different game. I saw a team that was out coached all game. We need to replace the OC ASAP.
lakersfan34
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Private Pyle said:

I must have watched a different game. I saw a team that was out coached all game. We need to replace the OC ASAP.
The articles on this site are quite creative with respect to football "analysis". I suppose business interests require a positive spin on the subpar product on the field in order to maintain and build the subscription base.
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lakersfan34 said:

Private Pyle said:

I must have watched a different game. I saw a team that was out coached all game. We need to replace the OC ASAP.
The articles on this site are quite creative with respect to football "analysis". I suppose business interests require a positive spin on the subpar product on the field in order to maintain and build the subscription base.
it's why they have a Pep Squad.... you have to have someone to keep pumping out the party line
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

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YoakDaddy
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

lakersfan34 said:

Private Pyle said:

I must have watched a different game. I saw a team that was out coached all game. We need to replace the OC ASAP.
The articles on this site are quite creative with respect to football "analysis". I suppose business interests require a positive spin on the subpar product on the field in order to maintain and build the subscription base.
it's why they have a Pep Squad.... you have to have someone to keep pumping out the party line

Back in the day we called it Pravda.
Stranger
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I was at the game. Not much sweet. Mostly bitter.

I've seen this future before. It ain't gonna be pretty.

This might be the worst coaching staff I've ever seen at Baylor. Harder times are coming.
I'm a Bearbacker
bearlyafarmer
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Oh, my.
Pale Rider
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I am not sure that this coaching staff has or at least knows what it takes to coach in the Big 12.
cowboycwr
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There was nothing sweet about that game. Or the season. And nothing that points to promise for the future
Pale Rider
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cowboycwr said:

There was nothing sweet about that game. Or the season. And nothing that points to promise for the future
All we have is hope and belief that there can be a big improvement in 2018.
Bear8084
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Good, realistic article. A lot of crystal balls in here. I wonder what next week's lotto numbers are.
Malbec
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"...It's comforting to think Lynch wasn't even supposed to be playing offense. But because of the injuries, he was making plays as a replacement like they're routine. "

Because he never should have been moved from offense to begin with! Holy cripes there's no end to the madness, both of the coaching staff and those who are willing to ride herd over the cliff with them.
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Private Pyle said:

I must have watched a different game. I saw a team that was out coached all game. We need to replace the OC ASAP.
I see why you're a private.

Dumb.

If you guys think having to play a bunch of true freshmen and sophomores out there is being outcoached, you really are clueless and hopeless.

Give it up. Briles isn't coming back.
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YoakDaddy said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

lakersfan34 said:

Private Pyle said:

I must have watched a different game. I saw a team that was out coached all game. We need to replace the OC ASAP.
The articles on this site are quite creative with respect to football "analysis". I suppose business interests require a positive spin on the subpar product on the field in order to maintain and build the subscription base.
it's why they have a Pep Squad.... you have to have someone to keep pumping out the party line

Back in the day we called it Pravda.
Now we call it NBC.
Jacques Strap
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Pale Rider said:

cowboycwr said:

There was nothing sweet about that game. Or the season. And nothing that points to promise for the future
All we have is hope and belief that there can be a big improvement in 2018.
When the results are bad you have to lean on hope for the future. The results are bad, like really bad.

1-11
Out of 129 teams
#113 total defense
#114 scoring defense 35.9 per game

#60 total offense
#95 scoring offense 24.3 per game

About 12 points per game scoring difference. Hard to take a lot of hope out of that, but hope is all we got.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/28/p3
Last updated - November 26, 2017 Through games of November 25, 2017
Jacques Strap
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Looking at those NCAA stats above... why does Nixon catch so much heat and Snow so litttle?
SicThe12
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Jacques Strap said:

Looking at those NCAA stats above... why does Nixon catch so much heat and Snow so litttle?
We're used to having points scored on us i guess. Also theres 0 shot that Rhule fires Coach Jar Jar so why bother.

On the other hand this whole sucking on offense thing is brand new.
YoakDaddy
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Jacques Strap said:

Looking at those NCAA stats above... why does Nixon catch so much heat and Snow so litttle?

I don't know because I was very disappointed in the lack of forced turnovers, takeaways, and interceptions. Did the defense even get any this season? I can't remember even one.
Jacques Strap
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YoakDaddy said:

Jacques Strap said:

Looking at those NCAA stats above... why does Nixon catch so much heat and Snow so litttle?

I don't know because I was very disappointed in the lack of forced turnovers, takeaways, and interceptions. Did the defense even get any this season? I can't remember even one.
Turnover margin
#123 out of 129 teams. with -14

Fumbles recovered 8
Interceptions 3
Total 11

Funmbles lost 11
Int/ Thrown 14
Total 25

Net -14

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/29/p3
Tommy_Lou_Ramsower
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What? A bittersweet tease of more 1-win seasons?
SMack
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The line was 23.5, we lost by 23.

I'm pretty sure that's the same thing as winning.
MilliVanilli
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Bear8084 said:

Good, realistic article. A lot of crystal balls in here. I wonder what next week's lotto numbers are.
I'd bet the house on group therapy.
bbfan89
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This article was satirical, right?....right?
ImwithBU
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Its articles like this that has CMR and his coaches just enjoying their paychecks and giving us piss poor product in return. No on wants to ask the tough question. Lets just kiss their butts and pretend that we were a program left in a Kansas Jayhawk state of mind and he is the great savior, who had other option but chose Baylor because it was Gods calling and he wanted to build something that no one else could build. You created this shipwreck, but hey lets blame a coach thats been gone for 2 years. 1-11, folks were are in the company of Rice and Kansas
The cliches and spin are getting old. Do what you need to do to get better and stop campaigning for motivational speaker of the year.
Bearmanly
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It amazes me how many people in this comment section have forgotten that it was Briles and his staff who drove this program into the ground, not Rhule.

To my knowledge, we didn't have any off-field issues this season. That alone is a tremendous accomplishment. We need to be careful not to focus too much on winning as the primary factor for success. Otherwise, we've learned nothing.
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Bear Apologist said:

It amazes me how many people in this comment section have forgotten that it was Briles and his staff who drove this program into the ground, not Rhule.

To my knowledge, we didn't have any off-field issues this season. That alone is a tremendous accomplishment. We need to be careful not to focus too much on winning as the primary factor for success. Otherwise, we've learned nothing.
You should change your name to BOR Apologist. The football program was in pretty good shape before your buddies cried out to God. I cannot believe the number of BOR damage control maggots that post on this site. It is quite unsettling and even more embarrassing.

Believe me. Baylor players are still HORSING around but maybe we have just gotten better at filling out the Title IX paperwork. You may have Coach Rhule on a pedestal, but no, even he has not been able to stop premarital sex off the campus of Baylor. I am sorry to bust your bubble.
"This is not an institution of football."
-- Dr. David Garland
Bearmanly
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I am not advocating for the BOR. I'm advocating for Coach Rhule.


More importantly, you have a serious claim against the football players. If you have information that needs to get out, report it.
YoakDaddy
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Bear Apologist said:

It amazes me how many people in this comment section have forgotten that it was Briles and his staff who drove this program into the ground, not Rhule.

To my knowledge, we didn't have any off-field issues this season. That alone is a tremendous accomplishment. We need to be careful not to focus too much on winning as the primary factor for success. Otherwise, we've learned nothing.


We did. You spoke too soon.
80sBEAR
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Bear Apologist said:

I am not advocating for the BOR. I'm advocating for Coach Rhule.


More importantly, you have a serious claim against the football players. If you have information that needs to get out, report it.
You jump to conclusions. The powers that be at Baylor are well aware of the latest incident. My claim is not "against the football players." I do not know all the dirty details. It may just be another case of next morning regret and all consensual. I hope the procedures that are now in place protect both sides and one side is not presumed guilty and the other side simply gets a fat check. Hopefully we have learned. If we have not, we will break the bank sooner than later.

My point is don't think for one minute that Matt Rhule is running a pristine, choir boy football program. Like any football coach, he can only do so much, but I am sure he is doing the best he can.
"This is not an institution of football."
-- Dr. David Garland
ColomboLQ
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Bear Apologist said:

It amazes me how many people in this comment section have forgotten that it was Briles and his staff who drove this program into the ground, not Rhule.

To my knowledge, we didn't have any off-field issues this season. That alone is a tremendous accomplishment. We need to be careful not to focus too much on winning as the primary factor for success. Otherwise, we've learned nothing.
Apologist is a good name for you.
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