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Basketball Recap: Baylor falls to Texas Southern 72-69

November 7, 2018
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SicEm365s Ashley Hodge goes in-depth with his analysis of Baylor's loss to Texas Southern on Tuesday night.

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Basketball Recap: Baylor falls to Texas Southern 72-69

bularry
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You maintained a pretty optimistic tone That was very bad

Tbh, can't lose to SWAC teams at home and expect to make the tourney.
Oldbear83
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yeah, this is not going to be a Final Four team.

Hope for growth and development, see what happens.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Ashley Hodge
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bularry said:

You maintained a pretty optimistic tone That was very bad

Tbh, can't lose to SWAC teams at home and expect to make the tourney.
the loss sucked. Texas Southern is not a bad team but they won't sneak up on anyone else after beating us so fans will freak out more as they get blown out in upcoming games.

Unique set of bad circumstances. Absent two crucial players; foul trouble on Clark and Vital that affected their defense and aggressiveness a lot; terrible FT shooting and clutch shooting by Patterson for them.

TCU was trailing CSU Bakersfield yesterday all game but CSU missed those open 3s that Texas Southern missed.

I think we will be middle of the pack in B12 IF our starting 5 is healthy.

Mason, McClure, Vital, Kegler, Clark. They play well together (vs Vandy; vets). But obviously Makai's feet are a huge concern.
setshot
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Ashley. I never pay too much attention to losses like this, but I do pay attention to how they are lost.

Kegler's loss was unexpected and troubling. The problems with Mason were both expected and equally troubling.
Our notions about how this team would perform this season was based in part on having those two players available, and their absence was critical, as it will be in games ahead.

I know that Drew is not an advocate of up-tempo basketball, but the practice I watched convinced me that this is a tteam geared for a faster pace, with an emphasis on transition. He has enough depth at the guard positions to do this, and at the wings. They should go to the man for man defense as a primary defense and use the zone situationally, and they should press and double team a lot, forcing other teams farther out in order to make the entry pass a more difficult one. We have the personnel to do that, but half court sets are going to cause us major problems.

Again, Drew knows his personnel better than I do, but for significant periods in that game he had combinations on the floor that seemed to me to lack scoring punch. If Vital is one of your go-to players at the offensive end you are in trouble. Mayer, of course, despite his near-insufferable self confidence, is talented but not yet ready for prime time. We need him to be a scorer and he will evolve into that role, but he is not there yet. Butler is a nice young player, but he is more of a game manager and facilitator at this point than he is a scoring threat. I like Bandoo and Allen as possible scorers and defenders to complement McClure, who shelved his early-game passivity and became what we know he can be, a dynamic scorer.

Clark has to be on the floor for this team to do well, and his propensity is to foul early and often, as we saw last season. He got at least one, perhaps two, "vicinity fouls" in that game, when officials decided that a foul had been committed and they rang him up because he was in the affected area. His fourth foul fell into that category and it probably cost us the game.

The Bears were not well organized and it appeared that they had too little respect for their opponent, but with so many new faces, that is not surprising. Drew and his staff did not have the team playing with the same physicality and defensive intensity in this game as they showed in the practice I watched, but Teague and Mitchell were participants in that workout, as were Kegler and Mason, so it was a bit misleading.
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setshot said:

Ashley. I never pay too much attention to losses like this, but I do pay attention to how they are lost.

Kegler's loss was unexpected and troubling. The problems with Mason were both expected and equally troubling.
Our notions about how this team would perform this season was based in part on having those two players available, and their absence was critical, as it will be in games ahead.

I know that Drew is not an advocate of up-tempo basketball, but the practice I watched convinced me that this is a tteam geared for a faster pace, with an emphasis on transition. He has enough depth at the guard positions to do this, and at the wings. They should go to the man for man defense as a primary defense and use the zone situationally, and they should press and double team a lot, forcing other teams farther out in order to make the entry pass a more difficult one. We have the personnel to do that, but half court sets are going to cause us major problems.

Again, Drew knows his personnel better than I do, but for significant periods in that game he had combinations on the floor that seemed to me to lack scoring punch. If Vital is one of your go-to players at the offensive end you are in trouble. Mayer, of course, despite his near-insufferable self confidence, is talented but not yet ready for prime time. We need him to be a scorer and he will evolve into that role, but he is not there yet. Butler is a nice young player, but he is more of a game manager and facilitator at this point than he is a scoring threat. I like Bandoo and Allen as possible scorers and defenders to complement McClure, who shelved his early-game passivity and became what we know he can be, a dynamic scorer.

Clark has to be on the floor for this team to do well, and his propensity is to foul early and often, as we saw last season. He got at least one, perhaps two, "vicinity fouls" in that game, when officials decided that a foul had been committed and they rang him up because he was in the affected area. His fourth foul fell into that category and it probably cost us the game.

The Bears were not well organized and it appeared that they had too little respect for their opponent, but with so many new faces, that is not surprising. Drew and his staff did not have the team playing with the same physicality and defensive intensity in this game as they showed in the practice I watched, but Teague and Mitchell were participants in that workout, as were Kegler and Mason, so it was a bit misleading.
agreed. I thought we looked best when we were trapping and we not only have the guards to keep guys fresh but we have good height at guard which can make traps more effective. Our defense in the 2nd half was terrible. Great post setshot.
DanaDane
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This team does not have an experienced PG who knows how to control a game other than Mason and it is painfully evident for more than 2 years now that he is unfortunately fragile (and therefore undependable). There are one or 2 youngsters who may develop into a decent PG over the next year or so, but they are far from that now. As I said months ago to my basketball buddies, the loss of Jake was huge since he could perform as a makeshift replacement for Mason if Mason couldn't play. With no Jake and an often injured Mason, this team is in deep doo unless someone steps foreward and surprises. And I didn't see anyone on that court the other night who looked ready to be that surprise anytime soon. That was the main takeaway from the Texas Southern gane.
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