Or, in a state where abortion is legal, they have legalized murder because murder is killing a human life, not a state-sanctioned definition of a "person".Porteroso said:BusyTarpDuster2017 said:Only if you want to be correct legally and definitionally, but not morally/ethically. Your view is too shallow.Porteroso said:Coke Bear said:If you are agreeing that it IS murder, why should it be allowed at all?Porteroso said:Coke Bear said:Are you sure that you want the SC to determine what the Constitution says about personhood?Porteroso said:
The question of personhood may be semantics for a voter, but it is all that matters for the government, because legally any person is guaranteed the right to life. I guess I should have clarified that. I am not as interested in individual opinions as much as the arguments that satisfy the Constitution. An argument for or against, that satisfies the Constitution, is one that can actually become law, or come down as a SCOTUS ruling. Your moral view, in the grand scheme of things, to me, is semantics. You have one and so do 350 million others. Irrelevant.
Didn't the Constitution say that slaves were only 3/5 persons?
Didn't 1940's Germany decide that Jews weren't persons?
Do you believe that by punting on personhood, you know deep down that the embryos are persons?
The SC can't determine personhood, it is a natural right. The government can't decide it. The people having the opportunity to decide it at the state level is the best thing for now. It makes it relatively stable and predictable, and reflects the societal will.
Deciding at the individual level, it would legalize murder. At the federal level, tyranny of the majority. State level solves this and many other issues.
Killing a person is murder, so the only issue is when group of cells become people.
And technically murder is defined as the premeditated killing of another human being, not "person".
And yes in a state where abortion is legal, murder should be killing a person, not human life.
You are too shallow, now here you are also begging the question.