Question on SEC/BIG vs everyone else

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ScottS
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Now that we are in the age of NIL and with the SEC/BIG set to get money possibly double everyone else, will that $ find its way into NIL and will the teams in those leagues start recruiting much better than everyone else. I'm sure that is a run on sentence but I'm just curious if anyone thinks this could happen.
LagunaBear
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That's definitely a possibility. And very likely to happen IMO.

The question is, at what point can we no longer compete with those schools? UT has had twice the revenue and resources that we've had for decades, and we can (recently) compete with them just fine. It's hard to know where the line is.
Russell Gym
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I may be wrong about this, but in my mind it becomes a matter of playing time at some point. I guess if SEC/BIG NIL is so ridiculous, the it won't matter if those teams are 4-5 deep at every position and studs don't see the field. Maybe those rosters will balloon to 120 and no athletes will be available.

My hope is that there will still be enough athletes that want to see the field - the kind of athletes we have been able to recruit thus far.
TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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Russell Gym said:

I may be wrong about this, but in my mind it becomes a matter of playing time at some point. I guess if SEC/BIG NIL is so ridiculous, the it won't matter if those teams are 4-5 deep at every position and studs don't see the field. Maybe those rosters will balloon to 120 and no athletes will be available.

My hope is that there will still be enough athletes that want to see the field - the kind of athletes we have been able to recruit thus far.
Yes, it'll be a bit before we see if there's enough to go around. I think soon enough, as ESPN money further solidifies the SEC/B10 semi-pro conferences, you'll see it becoming common place for the leftover (non sec/b10) recruits out of high school prove themselves on the field and then transfer "up" after a year or two due to NIL.

The days of loyalty to a school are going to be a far distant component of year-to-year roster changes. The effect for BU in that matter may be a bit less due to its distinct advantage as a Christian school ... but only a bit. Meaning, some Christian athletes will give up some dough to play for a Christian coach/school, but how much will depend on the individual.




Aliceinbubbleland
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https://www.si.com/college/2022/08/03/tommy-tuberville-leading-congressional-push-nil-regulation

Alabama must be worried
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ABC BEAR
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There will always be money chasing mercenaries. They play for individual glory and are not always great team players. We will be fine with our family oriented approach.
Johnny Bear
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Russell Gym said:

I may be wrong about this, but in my mind it becomes a matter of playing time at some point. I guess if SEC/BIG NIL is so ridiculous, the it won't matter if those teams are 4-5 deep at every position and studs don't see the field. Maybe those rosters will balloon to 120 and no athletes will be available.

My hope is that there will still be enough athletes that want to see the field - the kind of athletes we have been able to recruit thus far.

My hope as well.

This possibility otherwise sounds kind of like the situation Darrell Royal exploited for most of his career at UT during the days of unrestricted numbers of schollies and no liberal transfer portal. His annual recruiting class numbers wise typically included the size of an average recruiting class today loaded with quality players that were never going to see the field other than maybe mop up duty at the end of blowouts. Being able to not only have top recruiting classes, but to also be able to keep a lot of talented players off of competitor's teams was a huge advantage and of course not good for anyone in the old SWC not named UT. Hopefully the lopsided money and NIL won't allow something similar to develop for members of the "Big 2" going forward.
ABC BEAR
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

https://www.si.com/college/2022/08/03/tommy-tuberville-leading-congressional-push-nil-regulation

Alabama must be worried
This from a guy who left an uneaten steak on the table and a group of recruits at the table to catch a flight to his new job at Cincinnati.
HarryMehre
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It is true that Darrell Royal signed a lot of players that sat on the bench at Texas that could have played elsewhere. However, he wasn't signing more players than most of the SWC schools. He was just getting most of the better prospects.

To me that was more on the coaches at the other schools in the conference in that they couldn't convince the players to come to their schools and play instead of sitting on the bench in Austin.
Fre3dombear
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LagunaBear said:

That's definitely a possibility. And very likely to happen IMO.

The question is, at what point can we no longer compete with those schools? UT has had twice the revenue and resources that we've had for decades, and we can (recently) compete with them just fine. It's hard to know where the line is.


From 74 to 92 we competed with them just fine as well for 20 years.

Only tue Sloan years were a debacle

And had Briles not been assassinated for nothing, we'd likely have won 9 of the last 10
blackie
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For the most part those schools are getting who they want now. I don't think more media money is going to matter. And, we are not going to get our-recruited by Vandy, Rutgers, Indiana, and such regardless of how much more media money they get. Plus what fun is it for a player to be stuck on a sub-500 team in the Big 2 when they can be playing for a conference championship some where else.

And as the comment about Royal. Yes, he did sign more than could ever play. It wasn't until the scholarship limits went into play that it forced players to have to go somewhere else. Yes, there will always be some that want to get a ring even if they never see the field. But now a days with much more media exposure in many different ways, I think good players want to play versus just sit on the bench for 4 years. In other words, the Big 2 big dogs can't sign them all, and the bottom feeders in those conferences are not going to be attractive to guys that want to show they can play at an NFL level.
Bakersdozen
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They want to eliminate the 85 limit on scholarships. That will cost the school more money and require more NIL money. I believe if they do this, it also affects how many women scholarships they have. Don't men and women have to have the same amount of 'ships?

I do see a lot of attraction to SEC/BIG but the transfer rule is going to kill these guys. Get to UT-LSU-Auburn, see the talent in front of you and even though you have NIL money you want to compete and go to the NFL. They will be transferring in hordes. Can we go backwards and limit this? Don't think so legally.

Now they are investing money in recruiting and they are going elsewhere.

For the record, Saban doesn't like the current rules for NIL. He wants to pay the players but have restrictions. I just don't see how these schools don't get together and decide what to do.

NCAA is finished, in my opinion.
Aliceinbubbleland
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Quote:

NCAA is finished, in my opinion.

Correct. I'm going to enjoy the next three years of Big 12 football. After that I will probably lose interest, fast.
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